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Trick or Treat - Shawn Tuma
Shawn Tuma has been fighting cyber villains since before “cybersecurity” was even a thing. As Co-Chair of Spencer Fane’s Data Privacy & Cybersecurity Practice, he’s the guy companies call when the unthinkable happens—whether it’s ransomware, data theft, or an IT guy whose credentials include “brother of a cousin.”
In this fantastic episode of Counsel Brew, we sit down with Shawn and explore the intricate world of managing critical cybersecurity incidents. Shawn’s path to badassery proves that you never know what may lie ahead. Shawn shares his extensive experience in guiding companies through the complexities of cyber attacks, ransomware, and data breaches, a field that didn’t even exist when he started his legal career. His unique insights offer valuable guidance for businesses looking to safeguard their operations and maintain resilience in the face of cyber threats.
In this episode, we sip French roast and swap stories on:
☕ Why breach response is part adrenaline rush, part group therapy
📖How writing an article for a conference turned into his book, The GC–CISO Connection
🛡 Why your CISO and legal team should be best friends (and how to make it happen)
🐷 Cameos from Mabel the grandpig and 28+ years of trick-or-treating expertise
It’s a mix of coffee talk, crisis management, and career pivots—plus a few Stupid Sh*t stories that prove even cybersecurity legends have their “you can’t make this up” moments.
Grab your brew and listen in.
Find Shawn Tuma at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawnetuma/
Grab a copy of his book: The GC+CISO Connection Book: Shawn E. Tuma, J.D., CIPP/US: 9798991396905: Amazon.com: Books
And check out his podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@gccisoconnection
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