Mind Your Heart
Welcome to "Mind Your Heart," this cozy corner of the internet where Trina Deboree and Emily Reneé —your real-life Lorelei and Rory Gilmore duo—come together each week to chat about everything from mental health to the daily nuances of life. In each episode, we peel back the layers of topics like anxiety, depression, PTSD, and eating disorders with warmth, understanding, and a touch of humor (because otherwise, this just sounds depressing)!
Trina, an educator turned entrepreneur and mental health advocate, joins forces with her daughter Emily, a mental health coach and anorexia survivor, to share their journeys and insights in a way that feels like a heart-to-heart with old friends. The goal? To spark conversations that truly matter and to create a space where laughter meets healing.
Let's navigate the ups and downs of mental health together, making each day brighter and each challenge a little lighter. Grab your emotional support water bottle, put in your headphones, and join us while we mind our hearts for chats that comfort and inspire.
Mind Your Heart
MYH 34: The Unexpected Journey: When Rest Becomes Sacred
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Ever feel like the universe is trying to slow you down by any means necessary? That's exactly what happened when Emily traveled to Peru for what was meant to be a rejuvenating retreat but turned into an unexpected journey of physical limitations, emotional revelations, and reluctant self-care.
At nearly 12,000 feet elevation (double that of Colorado!), Emily's body quickly made it clear that she wasn't in Florida anymore. Despite faithfully attending Pilates three times weekly at home, Emily found herself struggling to breathe after the simplest walks. The shame and frustration of being physically limited despite her preparation became her first teacher – forcing her to confront expectations she'd placed on herself and her body. When retreat leader Jaden found Emily in tears, her gentle reminder that "the whole reason we're here is to hold space for what you need" became permission Emily didn't know she needed.
Between the stunning vistas of Machu Picchu, textile-making demonstrations with all-natural materials, and cultural ceremonies that left Emily speechless, Peru itself became a profound teacher. The locals' reverence for Pachamama (Mother Earth) and their understanding that honoring the earth means honoring ourselves challenged Emily's perspectives on our relationship with nature. Even as she struggled with the intensive schedule that left little downtime between experiences, these cultural immersions provided moments of pure magic that transcended Emily's physical discomfort.
Coming home should have meant rest, but instead brought illness followed by a back injury – forcing the slow-down Emily had been resisting. As wedding planning intensifies and life's demands continue to multiply, this Peru experience serves as a powerful reminder that sometimes our greatest growth happens when we surrender to our limitations rather than fighting against them. What parts of your life might be asking you to slow down and honor what your body and spirit truly need?
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Hey, welcome to Mind your Heart Podcast, your favorite corner of the internet where we chat about all things mental health.
Speaker 2:I'm Emily and I'm Trina. Together, we're like your real-life Lorelai and Rory Gilmore. Each week, we'll bring you real conversations about the world of mental health and we will peel back layers on topics like anxiety, depression and much more.
Speaker 1:We're here to chat with you about the tough stuff, the everyday stuff and everything in between. So grab your emotional support water bottle I know we have ours. Find your comfiest chair or keep your eyes on the road and let's get into it. Are you ready, mom?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Join us as we mind our hearts and hopefully make minding yours a little easier. Welcome back, welcome back.
Speaker 1:I almost introduced myself, but I guess we don't really need to do that because of our actual intro. Then it's just kind of redundant.
Speaker 2:Yeah, unless people skip their intro. Do you ever skip the intro?
Speaker 1:of podcasts? Yeah, but once I've already heard it.
Speaker 2:If.
Speaker 1:I'm like listening to a brand new podcast I normally don't skip the intro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me either. I don't even actually normally skip it. I skip the yeah.
Speaker 1:I normally well also like the podcasts that I listen to have very short intros, so it's like five seconds long and I'm like all right.
Speaker 2:That was a waste if.
Speaker 1:I skipped it. Anyway, you get too far, okay yeah.
Speaker 2:This episode is not about intros.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're just kind of having like a catch-up episode. I recently went on a trip to peru, um, for a retreat, so we're gonna talk a little bit about that, um and just life, and you know, you have a new puppy, basically so I do not.
Speaker 2:I do not have a new puppy. I have ayear-old son who came back from his job that he was supposed to have over the summer and he brought a puppy and it is not my puppy, it is his puppy. I may be acting like it's my puppy right now because I'm taking care of it a lot, but that's because I think the dog needs to be fed and actually needs to go to the bathroom on a regular basis and so, but yeah, hopefully by the time this episode comes out, jackson will have a job and we will be on a good schedule with the puppy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, a good schedule with the puppy. Yeah, also, I think, can we like say the name of this puppy, because I think it's just really funny sure okay, well, the puppy's name birth certificate is black air force one. Drayless, right, yeah, yeah, right, but not drayless, like how we actually spell our last name. Drayless like d-r-e.
Speaker 2:Like dray less, less black air force one.
Speaker 1:Drayless is the puppy's full name, and if that doesn't scream I was, oh, I was adopted by a college. Yeah, boy, then I don't know what does yeah, to be honest so yeah he's a cute little puppy.
Speaker 2:Um, like jackson said, he was a black lab, but he's a mix. And I, we, actually, I, actually my neighbors moved recently, which has been heartbreaking, but, um, oh, matt and shirley. But matt and dave shout out matt and shirley yeah shout out to matt and shirley um, oh man, anyway.
Speaker 2:So matt came, they moved. So matt and daisy, their dog kobe's love, came over the other day just to you know, say hi and I wanted him to meet one and um, and I forgot where I was going with this uh, and that he thinks that he's mixed. Oh yeah, he thinks he's mixed with a pit bull. I was like no.
Speaker 1:Well, not only does she have a puppy, but a lab pit bull.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think he and I was like I think he's right, because I knew his face. The shape of his face and his ears looked familiar, but I couldn't. He's really cute though. He is cute and he's very sweet. He's a very sweet, loving dog, and that's one thing.
Speaker 1:Matt said that pit bulls get a bad rap, for sure, but that if they're raised with love, yeah, I mean that's like really like any dog yeah, I mean like any dog like could be raised to be an aggressive, mean dog, but like if you raise them properly then, yeah, they'll be good.
Speaker 2:Wow, I know the guy Well. I, you know I always get Pitbull and Rottweiler confused. Are Rottweilers also get a bad name? Mm-hmm? Yeah, okay, because I think the trainer that I use his like workout stuff, daniel from Ireland, has Dougal his Rottweiler, and he's so sweet and he's like and he's just the sweetest dog and he's so sweet and he's just the sweetest dog. He's so sweet. He looks like a killer but he's so sweet. So, yeah, hopefully Juan will be the same way. So, anyway, that has been holy cow, it's been a journey, and Jackson didn't even tell me it was like 21-hour notice.
Speaker 1:So he's on for the summer, if you missed that portion of it. So you have a I don't know what is a step-nephew dog, I don't know. Grandson yeah, I guess a grand dog. Grand dog yeah, another grand yeah, I guess a grand dog, grand dog yeah, another grand dog, that's a grand dog. You have to train and feed and walk. So yeah, that's update number one. Yeah, is there anything else that's been new?
Speaker 2:No, going to Ireland and London and Paris. Yeah, that's in July. So we will likely have, like most not not have new episodes in July.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We might do some reruns, but I knew you were going to say that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Before we filmed this episode, we decided that we would take a break, but in my mind I was like she's gonna post some reruns.
Speaker 2:I don't know, maybe I won't, maybe we'll just find them, I don't know, we'll see. Yeah, make sure you follow, and then you'll know.
Speaker 1:Yeah um, I think that's it. Update wise, other than, like me, talking about per right yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2:I don't have anything else. Oh, your wedding dress is here.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, my wedding dress is here. Um, you're gonna go pick it up. It's, it's ready early, like they had originally. Well, to you it's ready on time. But, um, in the text that they had sent me, when, like I, we originally, we originally bought it, they were like it'll be ready like July and or August, like within that time frame, and it is June. And they were like your dress is ready to be picked up.
Speaker 1:Oh, also, we had this conversation yesterday but I had said like where am I gonna keep it? And um, and I was like, well, like it's gonna be in a garment bag, like I can just keep it in like my closet, because Jake and I have separate closets, um, and it's not like he's like going into like my closet on the reg, like I mean, like we have, like we keep our towels and sheets and stuff in there, but like it's yeah, anyways. And so I'm like telling him or I'm telling his mom this last night about like my dress now we're going to pick it up and whatever. And he was like I would prefer that you don't keep it at the house. And I was like what? Like he is? So, for context, jake is so adamant that he like doesn't want to know a single thing about anything that like I'm wearing what it's going to look like he won't even let me show him pictures of what I didn't pick Like. He's like I want to be completely surprised. And da, da, da, and I'm like okay.
Speaker 1:So in my head I'm like, oh yeah, I'll just keep it in the garment bag in the closet. Like he's not going to want to look, like he's not even letting me show him pictures of the dresses that I didn't even end up getting. And he was like yeah, like I'd prefer you don't keep it at the house. And I was like what? So I'll probably keep it at Carrie's house because I don't want to give it to you with a puppy for the summer. That stresses me out a little bit. So but she was like yeah, you can keep it here. And I was like all right, but that's just like another thing. I'm like, damn it, Jake, you don't have any self-control.
Speaker 2:I know that's great and I feel bad that I can't keep it because of yeah.
Speaker 1:It's okay. Yeah, it's not that big of a deal, but anyways, we're going to pick that up today. I have to like retry it on and obviously it's not like the final whatever. Like it'll probably need alterations and stuff. But, um, yeah, that's another update with wedding stuff. Um, honestly, like sometimes, well, last night we had a meeting with our wedding planner and wedding planning is just like a lot. It's just so much. It's a lot of work. Like, even if you have a wedding planner, like it's still a lot. It's a lot of decisions. It's a lot of like thinking about very expensive things. It's just yeah, it's a lot. And sometimes I'm overwhelmed with it. Like there are some times where I'm like I kind of just like want things to be decided and that just to be it, like I'm like whatever I don't care, like just pick, pick it.
Speaker 1:So that's been a little. I think that's been tough and this is where I'll. I'll ease this into peru. Like since I got back from peru, um, I have been sick and then I injured my back, um, so it was just kind of like back-to-back things that made me tired, um, and I think what, what is this? It's been now two weeks that I've been back.
Speaker 2:It feels like I don't feel like a long time everything feels so long, it feels like the transition home was infinite.
Speaker 1:Um, but because, like, I am still like a little bit tired from that. Like when we had the wedding planning meeting, I was like, oh, I told our wedding planner. I was like she was like how are you? And I'm like like I'm fine. Um, and jake had a really, really, really busy week at work this week. So, um, sometimes, like when and I I'm sure other like brides or people who have been married can understand that like it's like just because you're planning a wedding, life does not stop. Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 1:Like you're planning a wedding and all the other things are happening too, so um, and that's no, it's time.
Speaker 2:It's like so consuming, it's all consuming. I mean, I didn't have a wedding planner, I did, I had to do it myself.
Speaker 1:Well, I think I would go absolutely insane if we didn't have lindsey. Like I would, I would be having mental breakdowns at least once a week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't, I didn't really feel like that. I mean Nanny was a massive help, so yeah, I mean massive, and also like she had. She was an events coordinator and stuff like that, so she knew what she was doing and so it was. Yeah, I mean it was stressful. I mean I remember I got pink eye. So I got pink eye, yeah, right before our wedding and I had to leave school. It was my first year of school of teaching. I had to leave school, go to my friend the eye doctor and because I was so stressed out, he told me to put one drop every four hours and I was like four drops every hour, okay, got it, yeah. And so he called me on my wedding day and I'm like I can like taste like the steroid in the back of my mouth and he's like, how much are you putting in there?
Speaker 2:And I told him and he's like, oh my gosh, you got to come to the office. I got to meet you in the office right now. We got to make sure you haven't like damaged your retina. And I was like, are you serious? And he's like yes. So I was like a little bit of a hormone rage on top of it. I remember when we drove, like after our, our wedding, we drove to biloxi, mississippi, and we went to new orleans. I literally just climbed in the back seat and went to sleep because I was so, because it was my first year teaching, which is yeah and planning a wedding.
Speaker 1:It was yeah, well, even like I mean, lindsey like told us last, last night, because we were talking about like the hotel, like room blocks and stuff. She was like the day, like on Sunday, like neither of you are going to leave the hotel room, like you're going to sleep all day long, and I was like, yeah, I mean like that sounds about right. And she was like no, no, no, like you're going to be really tired, like you're gonna be really tired, like you're basically gonna have like a social hangover. Um, so like I can't imagine having pink eye and have just starting one of the most stressful jobs you could start. Yeah, like I would also be climbing into the back of the car and falling right asleep.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, but Peru was definitely like such an interesting experience and like it is so hard to like formulate words for like retreats, I guess is like how I can put that?
Speaker 1:Because, like when I went to Bali, like I came home and I was like I don't even know how to like put words that like give this experience justice.
Speaker 1:Like it was like I wanted to explain it to everyone, but like I also didn't, because I wanted to like keep the sacredness of that experience like to myself almost, um, and when I came back from Peru, like I haven't really told anyone like the details of things yet and like it's been a couple of weeks, and I'm like I think like there's a part of me that was definitely like processing like what had happened and all the emotions that came along with it, because it was definitely like a roller coaster of emotions, um, but it's just so hard to explain, and the women that also were there on the retreat with me have said the same thing.
Speaker 1:They're like it's. It's one of those things that it's like hard to put it into words, because like's such an experience that like, when you're there, like you're, you're, you're in it, you're you're everything like about your being, is there in it and invested. And then, like when you leave, it's like a, it's a feeling. It's not necessarily like a like oh, we did this, like yeah, we did do these things, but like it's hard to explain and it's like even me explaining this right now like probably doesn't make a lot of sense, but like it's just one of those things that it's like words almost can't.
Speaker 2:no yeah, it must be a experience that you, it is really hard to to know. And even I'm listening and I'm like, well, I, you know mine and and and tulum.
Speaker 1:I'm like, yeah, it's hard to just describe it or explain yeah, yeah, um, but my travel, at least getting there, was much better than it was going to bali. Um, when I but I will say like, when I went to bali, the travel was like 35 hours or something, like crazy like that. And um, to peru, it wasn't nearly that long, like, the total flight time was like seven hours, I think. Um, the travel time was more than that because it was like I, ow tebow, she just bit me, sorry that's obstructed me. That was like such a hard bite. Yeah, wow, I don't want you on here. No, no, what was I saying?
Speaker 1:Oh, I like went, it was like Tampa to Miami and then Miami to Lima, and I had like a six hour layover in Lima, miami to Lima, and I had like a six hour layover in Lima.
Speaker 1:And something that I did not expect, um and like, just like, wasn't completely prepared for, was the fact that, like in Peru, like they don't speak any English, like there is no English speakers and Lima airport is an international airport. So, to me, like I was, because, like, even when I went, when I went to Bali, like in Qatar, like they spoke English, like they spoke English and then they spoke other languages as well, and I was just a little bit thrown off by that. Like I definitely understand, I was in a different country and their first language is not english, so like I didn't expect them to like greet me in english, but like I did think that there would be some someone there that would be able to help people. Like we're a whole plane full of people from america are like you know what I mean. Like, so that was definitely shocking. Like when I landed, all the signs were.
Speaker 2:Well, I wonder if that is always that way, or if it's that way right now because other countries are like you know what. We're not going to go out of our way for another plane full of Americans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. I mean like the airport itself like has no signs in English, like not even like the exit sign or bathroom or whatever. Like it's, it's all in Spanish. Um, and like, thankfully, my three years of Spanish in high school, I know like the very bare minimum of Spanish, but it and like my Google Translate wasn't working and my flights there were red-eye flights, so it was like I was tired and I'm like hablas ingles, Like just at all, like I don't know where to go, like I just didn't know where to go, so it was like it was like instantly, like you're like in Peru. And another thing that was like physically tough was the altitude, and it was just like not something at all that I was prepared for. We live in Florida, so our altitude is like basically zero. It's like 30 feet, I think, where I am, and in Cusco the altitude is like almost 12,000 feet, which, for perspective, that's like basically double Colorado, which I got sick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is already high.
Speaker 2:So, um. I think altitude sickness sucks. It's really tough and I also like I think altitude sickness sucks.
Speaker 1:It's really tough and I also like didn't know, like I just wasn't educated on like altitude stuff, like I had no idea. Um, and so I got there and the first day we were there like I came a day early and so did like a couple of the other women that were at the retreat, and so like we all traveled from Cusco airport to the retreat center together so that way we could split like the ride, um, and when we got to the retreat center, we're like, okay, we're gonna go down to this little cafe that's like down the mountain, like because, like, to get to the retreat center, you have to like go up these like dirt roads and winding, and like you're literally going up a mountain, and um, so we went down to the cafe and then when we walked back up, it's like a 10-15 minute walk, like nothing crazy, yeah, but we're walking back up this mountain and I am like I can't breathe yeah, I am like, and in my head I'm like okay, like I know, I'm not like.
Speaker 1:I'm not no olympic athlete like I am not like in the best shape ever, but I also like go to pilates at least three times a week, like I walk the dog frequently, like I shouldn't be like this out of shape. Yeah, and I am like. I said that to them and I was like I don't. Am I crazy? Like am I really just? Am I just mistaken? How?
Speaker 1:out of shape I am and they're like well, it probably is the altitude, and I was like oh my god, like I didn't. I didn't even think about that. Yeah, they're like did you bring altitude medication? I'm like didn't even know that existed. So no, I did not. And that was day one.
Speaker 2:Did anyone have that medication? No, no one had that. I didn't even know there was a medication. I didn't either.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm like that would have been really good to know beforehand. But then, like I also got a really bad migraine the first day because, when I, cusco airport is like the size of my thumb, like it's so small, so like it's not like there's places to like buy stuff. But I was like, oh, I can get a bottle of water when I get there, and you're not supposed to drink the water in Peru. So I'm like I'm not going to like yeah, like I couldn't fill my water bottle.
Speaker 2:but my water was in the um in that part of the world?
Speaker 1:I don't know, and so I'm like. I didn't know that our drive from the airport to the retreat center was going to be two hours, and so I have just a little bit of water left in my water bottle.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's not good. You're supposed to be super hydrated, so I was really struggling.
Speaker 1:I'm like please just get to the retreat. And then our driver kept being like oh like, let me show you this. And I'm like so beautiful, but I'm like really need some water and um like it was so pretty, but I'm like, please don't stop anymore, because like, if we stop I'm gonna pass out yeah like so it.
Speaker 1:It was like the first day was just like tough. And then I then it was like the first day of the actual retreat it was just like back-to-back stuff. And then the second day I was just so tired like I felt like I had been hit by a bus and, um, the people that ran the retreat I, they're the same people I went to Bali with. They're like just, they've been on the podcast. Caroline and Jaden are just like the most incredible women, like I love them. They're amazing and I talked to them and I was like I don't know what to do, like I am so stressed out, like I am tired and like I cannot imagine getting up at 6 30 and doing yoga and then like going to.
Speaker 2:It was like a sweat lodge, like they had this like oh yeah, we did that in Tulum. I loved that though.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That was so cool, but not when you have altitude, sickness no.
Speaker 1:And I'm on the schedule and then like a workshop and like just things I mean like that you do at a retreat, and I like messaged him and I was like I don't know what to do, Like I need to sleep, Like I don't want to miss this, but I also like am going to miss it even if I'm there, Like because I am so out of it. And Jaden came to my room and I just started crying. I was like I also was like really homesick, Like right away when I got there I just like missed Jake right away. I was like I want to be home on my bed.
Speaker 1:Like there was just things that like I didn't expect that like I initially like were out of my comfort zone, but like that I just like didn't expect that would be out of my comfort zone. Like there was a lot of things I was doing out of my comfort zone already, but like I initially lot of things I was doing on my comfort zone already, but like I initially thought like I was going to have to share a bathroom and I had like picked and paid for a private room and that didn't end up being the case, but my bathroom wasn't in my room, it was like in a hallway that I shared, like this kind of house, with other people. There wasn't like air conditioning, it was just like the air that was there. Um, thankfully the weather was so beautiful so that wasn't an issue, but like initially, when I got there, I'm like sweating, dehydrated and I paid for air conditioning in tulum.
Speaker 2:I would pay for it. I was like, are you serious? But I was like, absolutely, because I'm so hot. And yeah, it's just as hot as florida.
Speaker 1:So I'm like, yeah, it was not as hot as florida, it was really really nice. And like it got cold at night, so like we just shut the doors during the day and I like trapped the cold air, so what. That wasn't. That didn't end up being an issue, it just was something I initially was like oh, yeah, yeah and so, anyways, jayden came to my room and I started crying and I'm like I don't. I was like I respect both of you so much like the work that jayden and caroline had put absolutely anything that they do.
Speaker 1:I'm like I know is a gift and like I want to be here for that, but I'm like I don't think I can do it today. Like, and she was like that's okay, Like part of this retreat, like, is that you can honor?
Speaker 2:Honoring yeah, honoring yourself for sure, and I'm glad that they made that an option and that they didn't give you a hard time about it Not that I think that Teresa would have given me a hard time about it, but it definitely I think she would have been disappointed. And your retreat was also shorter and it was a much smaller, probably, group. Yeah, so that it would be different. It would be different, but it is interesting how well part of it for me was getting out of my comfort zone and having to follow a schedule that someone knew about, that I didn't know about, and like releasing control, which was challenging, but I'm glad I did. Yeah, but it was a challenging thing. That just, I'm sorry, you know.
Speaker 2:Also, you made me think when you were saying that I think like the year or however many months up to your wedding is like you're excited but it is so stressful, especially when you're like talking about finances and talking about plans and talking about and all these things. It's stressful and so sometimes you don't even realize how stressful. I remember they took made me go on a, like a. Uh, I think it was like reading a reading conference before I was. Yeah, I'd be like like a couple weeks before my wedding and I remember sitting there and like feeling like I was going to go out of my mind.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And this little girl start. They had a little girl sing a song about we are the children to a bunch of teachers and I started to start bawling. I'm just sitting there bawling and I was like hyperventilating because I was. It's just everything. It's stressed out Like my first year teaching, getting married, everything felt so. So I can imagine like that is also at play too, and the altitude. Like I got sick in Colorado and I had to drive back down a little ways because I was like I need to take a break. That actually helped massively.
Speaker 1:There was nowhere to take a break is the other thing. Is that like where we were in the retreat center was lower than Cusco, like where we flew into, wow, not by much, by like maybe a thousand feet, but like. So there was no going down.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, no, it's like Denver and Colorado was like flat, and then I drove to Colorado Springs so I could come back a little bit and it was like you were just so yeah, it was tough and like they, but they were really good about it, like they.
Speaker 1:Like Caroline ended up like bringing me like breakfast that morning like to my room and she like sat down and she was like, how are you doing? And I started crying again. I like kind of gave her like the same like explanation. She was like the whole reason we're here is to like hold space for like what all of you need Like, and if that's rest, then like you need to take rest and I definitely have like a hard time like letting myself rest without guilt. So that was it was a practice for me in doing that and it was that was tough that day because I I like really wanted to be a part of things, but I also like knew that that like is not what I was able to do that day.
Speaker 1:Um, but the next day we ended up going to the salt mines and like we visited um like basically like make textiles and um stuff like that and um it was so cool, it was really cool. But um where one of the places that we visit, like we went to like where they make textiles and they showed us like how they naturally make stuff like it's like from alpaca fur and then like the dyes are all from like plants like that. Um, and after that we went to like this area, like where the like Inca like culture used to like have like agriculture and stuff like that, and so like we're looking at that, but to get there like it's a hike up this mountain and, um, I'm like in my head I'm like okay, like I rested, like I should be like good to go, and I'm like going up this mountain I'm like I can't catch my breath.
Speaker 1:Like I can't catch my breath, like I and I think there was just like a point, like in the beginning, specifically, that I was just really hard on myself because I was like I want to be able to like do these things so badly and I had felt like I had prepared myself more than I did last time because, like I have been so, like I have been proud of myself, of how much like I have moved my body and like honored like what I needed with movement and like eating better and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:So like when I'm like there and I'm like I'm the last one walking up the hill, like feeling like I can't catch my breath, like that feels embarrassing and it also like is like what the hell? Like I did all this work and like I don't understand and they're one of the Like, accepting yourself. Oh yeah, you, you are no matter what is hard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it was hard. And one of the women that was there her name was Darcy. She was like my angel that day, like she like slowed down with me. She was probably your age, like she's probably in like that realm, because there was three women that were like like it was like jayden's mom was there and then two of jayden's mom's friends and darcy was one of them and she was like like okay, like you need to like breathe in twice and then breathe out. Like she's like guiding me through breathing and like yeah, and she was like we don't have to go until you catch your breath, like we can walk up a little bit later than everyone else, and like she was also like needing to catch her breath and abby was with me, um, and she also was like she was carsick. So she was carsick and she was struggling too.
Speaker 2:so it was like the three of us were just like that's something probably to keep in mind when they tell people what you need to bring, like for sure, like, uh, this is gonna be an altitude adjustment for for some people, like just know yeah, yeah, and so like that day it was like tough.
Speaker 1:And then we went to another place and it was we were like walking up these stairs and I was like if we gotta walk back up these stairs to come back, then like I'm just gonna stay right here. Yeah, like I can't keep going. Thankfully we did not. The van met us back like at the top of where we had walked to. But, yeah, that day was day, was like great, it was so cool.
Speaker 1:We like ended up like eating at like this, like community's like house, like they had like made us lunch. It was delicious, it was so good. Um, and they like greeted us with like like a flower necklace and like they were all dancing and playing like instruments and like we got there and we're all like holding hands and it was really cool, um, cool, and like the culture of peru was really neat and peru itself is stunning, it's beautiful and the people there care so deeply about the earth and like what the earth provides for us and like I think that's just, like, oh just so good, it's so good to be around like, because like they.
Speaker 1:So the whole the retreat was they care about people, they care about the earth, they care about yeah, that's what you said, and that is oh so refreshing yeah, like the retreat center was beautiful, like there was flowers and just greenery and everything all around but, um, like, the name of the retreat was syncing with Pachamama, which, like Pachamama, is mother earth, and um, and so, like, our guides would just like constantly talk about like how important it is for like, even like our generation, to like see the importance of Pachamama and like what she gives to us and like how, like, we need to honor her, to honor ourselves, and like that was really cool to like also hear like men talking like that about like how important it is for is for like women and men to understand that.
Speaker 1:So, um, and then we went to machu picchu, which was so cool, like it was like, oh, like just breathtaking, like holy crap, like it was massive and beautiful. I felt like I was in a movie, like looking out, like the mountains were like the tops of it was covered by clouds, and like I'm like I was in a movie, like looking out like the mountains were like the tops of it was covered by clouds, and like I'm like this is crazy. Um, that was another day, a lot of hiking upstairs and up mountains.
Speaker 2:I should have come with you. This sounds so like up my alley. Yeah, it was great it was.
Speaker 1:There was a lot of back-to-backness, which was the thing like, even like in my feedback form, I was like I would have liked a little more downtime, um, which we had in Bali, which is probably why, like I felt tired coming home too, because, like, my expectation was that we were gonna have a little bit of time to rest in between.
Speaker 1:But it was like thing after thing after thing after thing, um, and like I even to go to my massage, like I had to leave a workshop early and all these things were like scheduled, so it was like I missed this workshop to like go to. So it was just like some things like that. I was like man, like I was bummed that I missed those things, but also that it was like so back to back. So, yeah, I was ready to be home. Um, there we did like a really beautiful ceremony. That was like that was probably my favorite thing. That is like the thing I don't know how to describe the most, because it was just like such an intense emotional journey. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Then, on the way home, like my flight got delayed and I was stuck in Lima and I couldn't call like the airline. Yeah, because, like it was going to like take like you can't, it would take minutes or whatever because I was in Peru and so I could call Jake because I could call him on wi-fi, and so I called him and I was like I need you to call American Airlines and like figure this out. Basically, um, and I didn't think I was gonna make my connecting flight which was like in Miami to Tampa and that was like my last one. I was like I just want to be home so bad. Like I was just ready. I was tired. I was ready, like my body was like I'm giving you all I got and like we're about to be done.
Speaker 1:So um yeah, I did end up making it, I. And then the flight of the gay agent was so rude to me, um, on the way home from like to go from Miami to Tampa, which was like not even a full flight, um, so I was like I don't know what your problem is, but whatever, um, so, yeah, overall, like it was like like I would 100% do it over again, but I would prepare in a much, much different way. Where do they go next? They don't know. They're um, I know like when I talked to caroline like I was supposed to actually go to morocco with a friend once I got home and I was like, no, that's not happening. Um, but I told that's caroline. She was like we're actually thinking about morocco like as an option for one of the next retreats and I was like, oh yeah, do that because I want to go to Morocco. So I think that would be cool.
Speaker 1:I know they're both doing like retreats, not like together. Also, like they're doing some that are like just for their own business, and I know Caroline's thinking about doing one that's like in japan, which I think would be awesome. Um, just, yeah, just a bunch of different cool places. So, um, I don't know, but all their stuff is under worlds together, um, and like we can link that um below. But it was good, it was just, it was just a. It was good, it was just a lot, it was just a lot of energy. And then being back home, like I'm pretty sure I got COVID, to be honest.
Speaker 2:Oh man.
Speaker 1:Like I think it was COVID, because it was like that feeling of like being like weak and achy and like the brain fog and like feeling like I needed to like sleep constantly and like my stomach like it was like all these random things that I felt like, um, and it was like for like a solid week and so I had taken I had worked really hard to be able to take this time off and like I didn't really feel like I got a lot of rest in Peru and then I got home and I had to rest because I was sick, which like doesn't feel like restful rest.
Speaker 1:And then I finally felt better and I did some landscaping and I hurt my back and that took like five days to get better. Um, so it was just like. And then, like, we had the wedding planning meeting, like, and I'm like. So it was just like, and then, like we had the wedding planning meeting like, and I'm like I'm tired, like I don't know like what to tell you, I'm just tired. So, yeah, it's like I'm grateful for that experience, I'm grateful that I am able to be able to take time off like that, but I'm like definitely bummed that I didn't get to have time that was just like restful rest, yeah, yeah, like that's the thing I think.
Speaker 2:I'm like kind of grieving a little bit, yeah. So yeah, thank you for sharing that story. That's um, that's. You know, those are the kinds of things that I think help us grow in different ways, and sometimes in ways that we don't want to yeah, for sure cool all right all right.
Speaker 1:Well, until next time, all right we'll see you in a couple of weeks.
