The WorthPlace Collective Podcast: Aziza Binti - Healer

In this episode we talk to Aziza Binti.  What an amazing story!!!  She brought it with honesty and vulnerability.   Aziza is a person who makes you know and understand your worth at a deeper level because she has walked through the fire, knowing both the light and the heat.  You will better because you listen to this episode!!!!

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Welcome everyone to the worth place collective podcast. I'm glad you're joining us with us today. Today. I got a special guest Aziza Binti. She's joining us today. And I am excited for you to get to hear her story. I met Aziza in in a life coaching course that I was doing. And Super, super a person.

I'm excited for you to get to hear from her. So I'm going to give her a chance just to tell a little bit about where she is from what she's doing nowadays. And then we'll get started with the question. So Aziza, tell us a little bit about yourself, where you're from, what you do, and anything else you want to know want us to know about you. 

Absolutely. First, thank you, Kevin, for having me on the podcast. Super excited to be here. I am Aziza Binti. I'm an anxiety success coach here in St. Louis, Missouri, but most of my clients are all around the country cause I do that virtually. And I have been working in mental health for several years.

I started out as a certified Missouri peer specialist working with people with severe mental illness and other co occurring disorders such as substance use disorder as well as other  medical conditions. And that gave me an opportunity to then begin working with youth and young adults. With Tracy Berry McGee, who's an amazing therapist here in ST Louis, as well as a Donde Lane, who was a phenomenal executive director for our program.

And so I also ended up working with folks with chronic pain conditions as well. And finally settling with helping folks with anxiety, such as myself, I'm navigating anxiety as well. And so I teach people how to use anxiety as their superpower.

Awesome. Awesome. Well, that is a great introduction. I'm super excited to jump into these questions with you. So let's start with the hardest question I think of the whole day. So it was once said that a a person challenged Ernest Hemingway to write a six word story. And so I'm going to challenge you in the same way. Tell me your story. Aziza story in six words. And you can throw in some hyphens if you need to extend the words and I'm not going to hold you exactly to six, but do your best 

Okay. That's going to be interesting. So I know you gave me an opportunity. To figure this out ahead of time. And I did not take that. So

This is, this is a whole nother, what kind of superpower you got here? 

I'm trying to tell you, so  let's see. 

So all I'm going to say is Aziza is superpower activated. Always feel 

like that is.

power 

Yes.

activated. Always  

Yep. 

activated. Always.  That's impressive. 5. Yep. You got it. And if you, yeah, superpower, two words, you nailed it. So tell me, tell me about  superpower  activated always. What are those words mean to you? 

So, you know, one of the big challenges that I have was really just recognizing my own worth, my own value. And I think a lot of people struggle with that in ways that they're not exactly aware of. And so when it came to navigating anxiety, when I realized that anxiety was really a superpower, that it was a key for me, that it actually gave me access to deeper parts of myself, that severely, seriously, amazingly changed my life.

And so when I do feel anxious now, It is a sign that there's something deeper for me to activate, that there is something on the other side of whatever it is I'm feeling anxious about that is actually a benefit to me. And so I see it in that way. And that's changed how I think about myself. That's changed how I think about other people when they're experiencing anxiety.

And it's really helped me to like tap into what's on so that it can be a benefit to me. 

That is so cool. So how how long ago, if I can ask, did you realize and kind of flip the switch where you realize that your anxiety was a superpower and gave you access to deeper parts of who you are? 

Yeah, absolutely. So  For me, the way that anxiety gave me access to the superpowers within myself, 

as far as how long ago it's been since that happened, I would probably say it happened around 2015. 2015 was a huge year for me in terms of learning about how to supercharge myself, how to heal, and It was related to a spinal injury that I had and getting surgery for that, and then waking up paralyzed from that surgery.

So I believe that around 2015 was really when things shifted for me to help me to recognize the power that's actually in myself. and Through anxiety as well. 

Wow.  Again, I saw you tell part of this story on Tik TOK and for full disclosure, I spent. What we spent 24 sessions together in the life coaching course for two hours apiece, we spent two days together basically. And I never heard this story about the back surgery and I happened to be scrolling on Tik TOK one day. I heard this story. Do you mind recounting some of that? Cause it was just a very powerful, just what you told on tick tock almost brought me to tears, not to raise the expectations so high here, but do you mind telling a little bit of that so that everybody can experience what you shared on tick tock? 

Yeah, absolutely. So prior to 2015, I had spent about 10 years on and off with severe back pain. And they believed ultimately that it was a bulging disc. There were times where I would wake up and I could not feel my legs or I couldn't move my body at all. I had to be in a wheelchair, later a walker, then on a cane, you know, back and forth.

And I'd have these horrible back spasms and things. It was just really, really difficult for me during that time. And then I'd have these periods of time where I didn't feel any pain at all and everything seemed fine. Finally, it had gotten so bad that  I visited several different doctors and surgeons.

And when I walked into my last surgeon's office, he wanted to do the surgery that same day.  

Wow. Oh 

is  very serious because I was losing feeling in my lower extremities. If I stood up for more than like a, maybe a minute and a half, 

I could only walk for that period of time. And I'd lose all feeling in my, in my lower extremities.

And he was like, this is super serious when you get you on the table today. And I will tell you something that I used to feel embarrassed about, but now I see just how powerful this was. I told him no,  he looked at me like I was crazy. He said, I'm sorry. What did you say?  Because I'm ready to scrub now and do this surgery.

Like you are in serious danger.

And I said, can I come back tomorrow? 

And he said, you, you want to come back tomorrow? Yeah, I want to come back tomorrow. And the reason I wanted to come back tomorrow is because I wanted to make sure that my home  looked a certain way so that if something happened to me, other people wouldn't have to clean up after me. 

I saw such little value in my own worth, 

in my own health. And I delayed a life saving surgery. Cause it's like, this could go horribly wrong. Like if you wait another day, like I'm surprised it's taking you this long to get to me. And I still said, no, I will come back tomorrow morning 

because my value and worth was so low

at that.  

Wow.

Yeah.  So I ended up having the surgery the next morning and.  The way the surgery was positioned to me was that I was going to have a very small incision, I think less than an inch and that I was going to be leaving that day because he was like, you know what? You have this bulging disc. It's pressing up against your nerves.

We're just going to go ahead and, you know, remove that, you know, and you'll probably be able to go home later tonight because the surgery was so early in the morning. It's like you'll be able to go home later that night or maybe early the next morning. I'm like, bet this is awesome. I said, what about the pain?

He's the pain you've been in. It's going to be way less than that. So don't worry. I'm like, yes, this is fantastic.

So I went up from spine surgery, not knowing that the surgery that was supposed to be an hour and a half was four and a half hours and not knowing that I had been leaking a lot of spinal fluid and they did not know how much spinal fluid and they Realized that I had been leaking spinal fluid all along

Oh, wow. Yeah.

and I woke up paralyzed and my surgeon was probably more surprised than even I was.

I'm laying in this hospital bed. My mother and my best friend are there. They're super excited. Everybody's kind of waking, waiting for me to wake up and I'm, I'm waking up and I'm seeing all these people standing around me.  And  then I asked my surgeon, when are you going to start the test? Because of course, you know, when you wake up 

from spine surgery, there's supposed to be something up your foot and then you tell them you feel it or 

whatever.

And he says, what, when are we going to start the test?  And then it dawned on me, yo, he's already, they're 

already doing this. And I.  And I'm like, I can't feel my leg. And I'm, and I'm trying to look down, but I'm upside down because I had what was called a dura tear and that's where the spinal fluid was leaking out.

And so I had to be positioned backwards, upside down for at least four hours. And so I can't even see, you know, I'm 

trying to look and see.  Where are my feet? What is going on here?

And he was like, Oh, my God, because he's super excited about this surgery 

because he says, You're gonna medical journal. Do you know that part of your the soft tissue in your spine that it actually calcified?

It had turned to bone and we had to chisel it out. And, you know, he's super excited because this is his last surgery of his residency, and he's going to North Carolina or whatever. And And his last patient, his last surgery, I am paralyzed. 

And, and  here's the thing. I wasn't that devastated about being paralyzed.

I was devastated about the fact that my hands shook really bad. And at the time I was a documentary filmmaker and photographer. And I thought my life was over. I was certain that God had blessed me with the ability to storytell through film and photography. And now I can't even do that because I can't hold anything.

I didn't care about my legs. I said, I'll be in a wheelchair. They can just push me around,  

but I can't my hands the way that I need to. So it was a terrifying experience for me, but it was also. The best thing that ever happened to me. And I'm sure we'll talk about that more as we 

Let's, let's just, let's just, let's just keep on going. I think if we get to the questions, we get to the questions, but you're telling your journey with worth, that's what we want to do. So let's just keep on going. Tell, tell me about that.  Kind of that next

Yeah. 

what you discovered and how that went. 

Yeah, absolutely. And so, you know, I put everybody out of my hospital.  I was like, y'all got to go. Cause my best friend was like super excited. I was like, listen,  I need everybody out of 

here. And so they all left. And I was there alone in this bed upside down. And  I remember  looking into the darkness as I was laying in my bed. 

And crying and being very angry with God. I was like, you really let me down. 

Like you told me that I was going to inspire people and change people's lives and tell all these amazing stories, whatever. And I just knew that this was the surgery that I needed. And now I am paralyzed and I can't even use my hands.

Like what in the world? And I remember looking off into the and it was like this vortex of color. It was just amazingly beautiful. And it was just out ahead of me, just out ahead of my like where my fingers would, would reach out to. And then it started to feel like it was moving away. And I was so upset.

I started to cry. I was like, God, how could you do this to me? I was suppo What is this? What was the whole purpose of all of this?

What was the reason if I wasn't gonna even be able to fulfill the purpose and calling of my life? Because I felt like I had finally found it after years of just not knowing. 

And It wasn't until years. It wasn't until a few years later that I started working as a  success coach for young folks who were young adults who were seeking a career in I. T. And I introduced myself to them and introduce them to the program and shared it A personal story about my life, which was about the spine surgery and being paralyzed and later  being able to begin to walk again, being able to hold things again, all of that. 

And I remember I got to the part of the story of where I saw this vortex, and this was the first time I'd shared it with anybody at all. And I'm sharing it with this room full of young 

Okay. So you're,

hold on, hold on. I got to interrupt here. So you had not told this story to anyone and then you're telling it to these. Oh, wow.  Wow.

started, it emerged right then and there in front of them. 

I'd never shared it before. And then it clicked to me.  Because the, I looked in the eyes of everyone around the room  and I felt their energy and it was the same energy as the energy of that vortex.

Wow.

And I froze while I was talking to them  and it became really clear to me. 

At the time, I thought when the vortex, it felt like it was moving away. It felt like my future was moving 

Yeah.

Yeah.  

And in that moment, as I was speaking to them, I realized, no, it was pulling me forward. 

It wasn't moving away. It was trying to pull me in. And I said to those, that group, I said, I have known you before you were even in your mother's womb. 

I know you.

And you know me and many of them started crying and later they were like, I kept wondering why it was when I saw you, I felt like I knew you. Those students were all saying that like, yes, I do feel like I know you. And that's what it was. And that changed my story. That changed my story about my worth.

That changed my story about my value. That changed everything. Because of the fact that it was years between the time that that happened and me meeting these young people.  

And so that worth was already set in place. I wasn't aware of it, but it was already set in place, Kevin.

Wow.  Wow.  Yeah. I, I,  such an amazing, amazing story. And in that moment, like if, if I'm hearing you correctly, you were sharing and having this revelation  for yourself all in the same moment.  Is that

what 

the same time. 

That's, 

that's, yeah, that's, that's nuts. That's usually people talk about these moments they have where they see things clearly, but they're usually, you know, they're, they're up in the mountains.

They're by themselves. It's quiet. They see a shooting star, but to be with a group of people and to feel that same energy. That's  that's profound. That's profound. So

absolutely.

From that moment, do you remember what year this was? If your surgery was 2015,  do you remember about what year this experience happened? 

So this was 2000, it was 2019

2019. 

2019. That's when I started working as a success coach. Yeah.

Wow.  And how has that, I'm gonna switch up the questions we had, we had decided on just so you know, another question is coming here. So how  did that experience both 2015? Then telling the story in 2019,  how did that shape  how you viewed the work you did  and the worth that you were going to share with others through that work? How did that change it and shape it? Yeah, yeah.

the way that the experiences that I had between 2015 and  2019 shaped my view of worth was that after that surgery I was released from the hospital on a walker. So I was still having trouble with walking and In severe pain,  it was ridiculous, the amount of pain. And then one night, I think it was the,  the,  maybe the fourth or fifth night being home and I was literally clawing the walls  in agony because what was happening was my nerves were trying to make a connection.

And so it was just so painful. You know, my nerves and things have been retracted. For  far more hours than they intended to do that. And so they're exposed to the air and all of that. And so my body's trying to make connections with my legs and my brain. And, you know, it's doing the best that it can.

And I just screamed out and just ask God to, to save me, to help me, to stop this pain. And usually when I tell that story, people say, oh yeah. And then, you know, your prayers ran. So I was like, yeah, it was answered. The answer was no. The pain continued for nine hours, unrelenting.  And at one point I just stopped fighting it.

And I started to speak life into my body for the next probably seven or eight hours, because the first hour I was like praying and please stop and all of that. And then eventually I just kept telling my body. I said, I know you're doing the best you can. I love you. 

Thank you. Thank you. Spine. Thank you.

Legs. Thank you. Nerves. Thank you. Brain. Thank you for doing everything you can to connect. And I would fall asleep and then wake back up and more pain. And I would just keep speaking life over myself. I had never in my life spoken so lovingly to myself. 

And that was the thing that changed worth for me.

Finally, I'd spoken love into other people's lives. I had, you know, I had delivered sermons and spoken 

to people. I had, you know, cared for folks all my life. I was such a giver

and I had not learned how to give to myself. And had it not been for that experience, I probably still today would not know how.

Wow.  Wow.  Man, man.  I'm just, I'm just kind of sitting and soaking in your, your story. It's just, it's,  I can hear the,  the gratefulness  for walking through this season, even though probably on the front end, you wouldn't have actively chosen to walk through it, but the gratefulness on the back end. 

The, the level of gratitude that I have for how that journey manifested itself is immense. 

Especially when I began working with people with chronic pain conditions, as well as those with substance use disorder, and being able to share portions of my story. And, That was beautiful to watch people feel seen and heard through my experience.

And it also gave me a lot more compassion as I was listening to other people's stories. So it really shaped my life in a tremendous and amazing way. And I don't regret having gone that route that was painful. And it was also purposeful.

And so I'm grateful for that.

Wow.  Man,  thank you. Thank you for being vulnerable for sharing that. Yeah, cause it's, there's other people.  That need to hear stories like this and not hear them in the pretty,  like, you know like you said, I prayed and immediately in that moment, the pain went away and I was better from that moment out.

No,

Right. 

sucked for another, you know, eight hours past that first hour. And yet,  yeah, it's just, it's such a, such a beautiful, beautiful story. So as you have made this transition into  sharing not only in 2019, the story, but just even how the experience shaped you what are some of the things you've ran up against  that the message that you are sharing  about where you Your worth lies and you know that you have it.  How do you see that like clashing and coming up against the culture as a whole that we live in? Where are some of those spots that you really.  Like when I like grab people and speak life into them. Where are some of those areas that you see it? 

Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, what's, what's interesting  to me is that  lots of times  my worth was based on my ability to contribute,  do for other people.  And you see a lot of these shows where you have these selfless givers and they are forgoing their own health, their own wellness, their own 

mental and emotional stability to be there for someone else.

And then we sort of applaud and celebrate that.  And that's not something to applaud and celebrate. That's something to lean into a person and say. I want to help you to find your worth outside of your ability to contribute to somebody else's life. Contribution is one of the six human needs. We need to contribute.

Absolutely. Humans who contribute at high levels are more likely to be, experience happiness and joy and stability. But when it takes a turn  where you're not also interested in contributing to your own life, that's  when things go terribly wrong. We cannot just give and give and give and give to others without giving to ourselves at an equal level and capacity. 

And I grew up believing that my worth was tied to my ability to contribute. Now, this is  a challenge that many women face. Because we're supposed to be the nurturers and the givers and all of that in my work with a lot of the men that I've coached, which has been absolutely amazing as 

well. They struggle with that same idea of contribution.

It's just in a different way.

The idea that men have to contribute in a certain way may be different than how society says that women need to contribute, but both of us are struggling with the notion.  That unless you contribute selfishly.

Without any concern for yourself ever,

hmm. 

you are not good enough. 

And that I feel is so detrimental. And if we go layers deeper, when 

we talk about racism, sexism, homophobia,

xenophobia, how these things also contribute to it, there's other even. Deeper levels that we start to realize that, man, people are believing that their worth is tied to something that it really isn't.

Mm hmm.

And it makes you chased after that relentlessly, always feeling like you're falling short. And I see that in my clients over and over and over again. And I've seen it in myself and in my own healing,

Yeah. Yeah. So with that, what is the when you see this, cause it sounds like you see a very similar thread pop up with all of your clients and all the humans that you have interaction with. What is like your go to phrase, your mantra, your reminder? Like how do you speak life in them, over them, to them? Do you have a way in which you do that consistently? 

man, I think primarily it's really, allowing people to feel seen and heard.

So many of us don't feel that way.

And we often expect people not to hear us out, not to truly, not to truly get us, or even really want to. And so it really starts there. Being. Very empathetic and truly listening and holding space

for a person and what holding space looks like is allowing them to take up as much space as they need 

to, whether they're being silly or angry or sad or whatever.

Take up all the space that you need because often there are not enough containers for the space that we really need. My male clients are feeling like, Folks are not truly hearing them that they don't get to express the emotion, the depth of emotion that they would really want to express,

whether that is anger, whether that is joy, whether that is sadness, they don't feel like they have the ability to fully express that.

Whether it is my female clients that are feeling similarly as if they have to feel fit into a particular box, whether it is trans clients who are feeling as if they have to pick a lane 

to like, they cannot fully express all of who they are because that's not safe. And the truth is it isn't always safe, right?

They're not just making 

this stuff 

correct. 

It can be incredibly unsafe to be your most authentic self around people 

you truly desire to be that most, mostly authentic with.

And I would probably say to answer your question about like, is there a mantra? Is there a saying? And for me, it is any time is a good time to stop doing crazy ish,

whatever that is, 

Yeah. Yeah,

because Sometimes we've been doing something so long.

We're like, Oh, I have to do it this way. No, you don't.  You get to shift out if you want to, and I can help you get there. We can get there  together. But I would probably say that's going to be the main one. And they always laugh when I say that. I'm like, we can do that together. But anytime is a good time.

You do not have to keep doing that thing because you've been doing that 

Correct. And sometimes when you've actually held space long enough for people,  they actually can see that for the first time. It's amazing because they can go,  can stop doing that. Or you're telling me that I can behave and write a new story in this new way. Yeah, I, I just think it's beautiful that I asked you the question and the first place you went was not to advice that you give,  but from a process of actually creating and holding space for people  so that they can Can be heard and seen that's,  I mean, that's the core of, of life coaching at its purest sense is that we do that work. 

Yeah, it's about clearing the clutter so that they can hear their own internal voice. That's really sort of the core of the work. There is there are educational 

pieces because, you know, in, in my line of work, like people don't understand the neural science part of why they're, why they think this 

way and what's going on.

They don't know like what's literally happening in the brain and that helps people to realize, wait. So. I'm not jacked up. I'm not, it's like, no, your brain is doing what billions of other brains are doing. And you've been taught to believe this way. That's not your fault. We can actually work together to help you rewire 

those neural pathways to change how you think, feel, And behave.

It is a process. It's not overnight, but it is possible. So there's an educational component to it. But the biggest piece, you're absolutely right, is the holding of space. So people can fill up that space however they want to and know that they're safe. They're somewhere safe where somebody's not going to be judging them, beating them down, trying to give them advice and tell them what to do.

But to give them room to be their most authentic 

Yep. Amen. And amen. Beautifully.  Beautifully and well said. Thank you. Thank you, Aziza. Man, I would, I'm already thinking that we're going to have to do a second session because there's, there's 17 other questions I want to ask you, but so we'll, we'll pause there. We'll keep this around that 30, 35 minute mark. So a couple more things. First of all How can people connect with you? Instagram, Tik TOK, just give us some of the handles and places people can find you and access you if they want to talk more, connect with you in any way. 



So folks can find me primarily at Aziza binti. com. A Z I Z a B I N T I. com. It can also find me on  Instagram C Y O a coaching. That is my coaching company. Choose your own adventure coaching 

LLC. And they can also find me on.  LinkedIn, just Aziza Bente. I love to give people an opportunity to activate their superpowers, to find out what they are, what it looks like to shift anxiety into a superpower, as well as other areas in their life.

And I offer a introductory session available on my site. They can sign up for that. The only cost is going to be the investment of their time for that session. So I love connecting with people in that way.

Awesome. Awesome.  All right. Well, I've got the final closing question here for you. And then we are we'll wrap up. So tell me  what is the quote  that you have returned to you?  Most in your life. Like what's your go to quote that just, just sticks with you no matter where you go. Awesome. 

So it's going to be the quote from earlier today. Dr. Monique Maxey, one of my best friends is the person who said anytime is a good time to stop doing. Crazy ish. 

Awesome.

That is going to be my go to because sometimes even I get stuck in a pattern 

of doing something that, and by crazy, we just mean something that doesn't work for you, that is at this point.

You realize this doesn't work, whatever it is, that's crazy. And because you keep doing it and it's not working. So whatever it is, 

if I start to notice what I keep approaching this from this same framework, from this, I can stop, I can strategize and find another way. To navigate this and anytime is a good time to stop and shift.

Yeah. Well, well said. Well said.  Well, Aziza, I deeply, deeply appreciate your time today, your vulnerability, your honesty. And I just want to Say out loud to you. I have always, since the time I met you, appreciate your your kindness, your compassion. And if this word makes sense, just the invitational way in which,  like all the way from the tone of your voice to the words you say come across. And so I just, I appreciate you sharing the space with me and making time to do this and anybody out there listening If this is kind of stirred something in you, do not hesitate to reach out to Aziza. This is who she is. This is who she was in class. This is who she is in conversation on the phone. And I know it's who she is in the coaching realm. So again, Aziza, thank you. Thank you. And thank you again. 

Ah, it's been absolute pleasure, Kevin. Thank you for inviting me 

to do this, man. This is awesome.

Yeah. I'm, I'm excited. I'm excited to give people like you a space to share their story and their journey with worth because  again and, and we're starting the season with people that intuitively get it. That's why you, as soon as I started this, I was like, I'm going to connect with Aziza because there was something about, even though we had not ever had a conversation about worth.  I knew that you got it and I don't know how I knew you got it. I just knew that you did. And without ever hearing  the experience from 2015 to the time you told the story in 2019, I didn't know that piece and it all. Yeah, I just appreciate it. I appreciate, I appreciate you sharing it and I appreciate you. And we will, we will do this again. I know for sure. So again, thank you for your time. Is there anything else you want to say before we're done today? 

Well, the  two things I want to 

say, number one,  Kevin, I am so excited to hear the other guests that you have on here. You did an amazing job. I love the questions that you asked me. So thank you so much for that. Super excited to hear what other people share about their 

worth and Another thing where I've noticed my worth is the nervousness I had about starting group coaching, and I am going to be launching some group coaching that gives people an affordable way to tap in, but also to have some community as they move 

through.

These are going to be small.  You know, intimate groups of folks, and I'm going to be leading each one of these groups to help people self actualize, to get past these feelings of unworthiness, to navigate these 

feelings of stress and frustration and perfectionism,  all of that shift into a place of feeling confident, secure, Passionate about life and knowing that no matter what challenge they face, that they have the tools to navigate it.

I'm so excited to move into my own worth to be able to help people actualize there. So 

I'm just, this is perfectly time to be having this conversation, Kevin.

Awesome. Well, you give me all the information. I'll make sure that you all listening, get all of this information in the notes and have first, first access to some of this, you'll be able to hopefully just click

a link and go straight to the group coaching if you're interested in that. And and I have one more thing I want to say because you've mentioned it multiple times today, and I just want to name the reality out loud for me, for you and anybody listening is that.  Anytime  that you engage other human beings and help them understand and live from their worth, like Aziza is, has talked about so beautifully today. The other thing that has to happen is that you have to go on the journey yourself.  You cannot give and offer people and speak life unless you have received life and you  Are not only have realized your worth, but are constantly cultivating and like soaking in your worth and living from it. And I just want to name that reality. Cause if you go back and listen to this, you're going to see that Aziza did both of these things. She talked about offering worth and she talked about nurturing her own worth and those two things go hand in hand and you just can't separate them. So again, Aziza. 

I would  agree, Kevin, a hundred percent.

Yeah. Yeah. Yep. All right. Well, you have a great day for all those. You listening. Have a great day and we'll be back with you soon. Thank you again for listening. 

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