How to Promote Your Podcast to Get More Clients with Amanda Bennett

When people ask how to promote your podcast, they’re usually asking the wrong question: How do I grow my downloads?

It’s easy to feel pressure while watching big name podcasters climbing charts, chasing downloads, and keeping up with social media trends.

…But is that actually the best way to promote your podcast?  

If your podcast is part of a service-based business, those vanity metrics aren’t always the most important measure of success.

In this episode, I’m joined by podcast marketing strategist Amanda Bennett, who helps mom podcasters connect with the right listeners, partners, and clients. We talk about how relationship-based marketing, SEO, and simple systems can help your podcast become a true marketing asset…without requiring hours of your time every week.

If you’ve ever wondered how to promote your podcast in a way that actually leads to clients, partnerships, and long-term visibility, this conversation will give you a fresh perspective.

In this episode, we talk about:

• Why chasing podcast downloads can distract you from the metrics that actually grow your business
• What Amanda recommends doing if you only have 30 minutes a week to promote your podcast
• The surprising reason relationship marketing grows podcasts faster than algorithms
• How podcast SEO helps the right listeners discover your show
  The difference between growing a podcast audience and building a podcast that supports your business
• A simple way to turn your podcast into a funnel that leads listeners into clients.
• Why “unscalable” marketing actions often create the biggest results for podcasters
• Where AI can help podcasters save time (and where it can hurt your credibility)

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Amanda Bennett is a podcast guesting and marketing strategist who helps mom podcasters connect with more of the right listeners, partners, and clients so that they can make more impact. She has helped clients secure over 100 guest spots on top-ranked shows and build partnerships that actually move the needle. I can personally attest that she is truly the best at cheering on mom podcasters, and you can catch her in person this April at the Podcasting Moms Conference. Virtually Inside the MomFriends Media Collective, which we're going to talk about a little bit more later on in this episode. But one of the reasons why I wanted to bring her on is that she has been in the podcast space since 2019, which is a good chunk of time because so much has happened. So much has changed and evolved. And there is also just like a lot of podcast growth advice out there. But you specifically work with moms. And even if the listeners like aren't necessarily moms, I know they are people who like we have limited time for whatever, like one reason or another. So even if you're not a mom, keep listening, because this is just speaking to like, we know you're busy. We know you are pulled in all of these different directions. So if these podcasters, if they only had 30 minutes a week to market her show, what would you tell her to stop doing and what should she double down on instead? OK, well, first of all, thank you. 16:59 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) Thank you for that. Kind introduction. I love being here and yeah, getting to talk to you, having you in the community has been amazing. So thanks for that little introduction there. Yeah. And I would just say in general, this is women. Every woman, whether you are a mom or not, you wear so many hats. And so I think that's where I want to start with that too. And yet podcasting is, your years in podcasting is kind of like dog years because things change so fast. So, you know, you look at six years and it feels like 10. So a lot, a lot has changed and rapidly because of technology. So I would say back to your question, if they had, what did you say? 30 minutes a week? Yeah, approximately. 17:47 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) 30 minutes a week. 17:48 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) What should they focus on? With your podcast, it, I'm going to say all the answers here. You look at it through the lens of your own business. Your own experience. What works for you? We say all the time in the community, just because it works for somebody doesn't mean it's going to work for you. So with a grain of salt, you know, looking at the things with 30 minutes, you want to do something that's going to be impactful for you. And I think what we've talked about, Megan, in the past couple of calls in our community has been about those unscalable things. Because I think a lot of time we hear, right, the growth advice, and you want to reach 10,000 downloads a month, and you miss the bigger picture of what you should be focusing on. Because that, the, I want to quote, I just talked to my friend Megan Hale, who is a business scaling expert for women founders, and she said, more is not a goal. And I was like, yes, that's right. Because to, why are you wanting more? How much is more? And so if you have 30 minutes a week, I want, I want you to know what's working. Podcast. So how are people coming to you to work with you who have found you through the podcast, who have listened to your podcast? Do you know if that's your goal to get more clients in your business? Is the podcast already helping you do that? So that's the first thing is like understanding what's working for you. And then the second thing, that 30 minutes is going to be spent on something that is sustainable, which, you know, I love to talk about those relationships, those partnerships, those things that go the extra mile for you. So if you spend 30 minutes doing outreach to people you think are ideal people, like referral partners and people who are doing great things in their business that serve your people in a different way, connecting with them, seeing how you can be of service to them, that is going to go much further than... I don't know what else you could be like checking off on your to-do list for your podcast. So I think that would be, you know, figuring out what those levers are is actually the first thing you should be doing. But then beyond that is really looking at what relationships and what other partners you could be linking arms with. Back to you said people ask things all the time, like, how do I grow my show? How do I find guests or how do I find podcasts so I can be on? Like, I want more visibility. I want more downloads. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. So the way you're going to get there, the easiest way to get there, because I know you've done this before. It's a lot of times it's just you getting to know people who you think are doing great work in your industry, like with your people. And then that turns into them asking you to be on their show or you have them on and do a swap. And it just gives. It's to be easier when you have those values-first marketing, right? Yes, I love it. 21:06 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) Thank you. A little plug for you. I love it. That totally felt so full circle and we did not plan that at all. Yeah, that's so good. And I feel like you answered my next question of like, we talk about this unscalable marketing and I know you're a big advocate for the relationship-based marketing. And that is often like unscalable because you are personally reaching out. You're taking the time to like truly get to know them and not just like sending, you know, this like cold message. Like, no, no one likes that. No one wants that. But these, and it's, it just feels so ironic that like a lot of people say like, oh, you have to scale, you have to scale, you have to create a scalable offer, a scalable marketing system. You don't have enough time. It has to be scalable, but actually some of these unscalable things that you're talking about, like. Like truly creating those relationships with strategic people who like, your values aligned with, and two, like you share a same audience that you can both serve in that different way to give them a more like full picture, full service of like what is going to truly help them reach their goals. Those unscalable things are actually like totally worth our time. A hundred percent. 22:26 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) They are the multipliers of our time because even when you look at just the podcast itself, not like your overall business and offers, which we know how valuable that is to have people referring you as a service provider specifically, but when you look at how people find new podcasts, so let's just say you do want to grow your listenership, your audience that way. Most people find new podcasts, one, through SEO on the podcast platform, but the second way is through mentions on other podcasts they listen to. Through SEO People they know who send them referrals for, hey, you should listen to this episode. And that is sometimes that reached by those unscalable actions, by reaching out to some one person, two people you think would be have commented on your social media or you run into in the grocery store and they're like the ideal listener for your podcast. Just sharing with them the link or how they can listen. And while it seems like, oh gosh, that takes up my time. Well, yeah, but think about how that multiplies because if you're a service provider, you likely don't need 10,000 downloads a month. You just need to fill your roster with five more ideal clients or whatever that is. So it just makes sense to focus on some of those unscalable things, especially because I know we may get into this a little bit with AI. Mm-hmm.-hmm. Mm People, ultimately, at the end of the day, people work with people. People hire people. So that unscalable outreach or touchpoint, it makes a difference. 24:15 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) Yeah, yeah. Those unscalable touchpoints totally do make a difference. So you mentioned AI, which I feel like can be a whole other can of worms. But we've, you know, even in the Podcasting Moms Group, Mom, Friends Media, we've seen podcasters adopt AI at very different levels. Some people, it's very important for them to stay, like, totally human. Others are like, hey, why not? Like, if we're already, like, using our voice on the podcast, you then use AI to then repurpose it and amplify it elsewhere. Where do you see AI helping podcasters gain leverage? And also, conversely, like, where do you see it actively hurting their growth or credibility? Yeah. 24:59 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) Yeah. I think what I've noticed is that it is very individual, like how deep you want to go with it. And I think for the most part, again, AI is a tool. And so using that to your advantage to make your business and your podcast better and always looking at it through that lens. So you are the most creative and valuable piece of your business. So not chat, not clawed. And I think keeping that in the center, not outsourcing your creativity or your knowledge or your experiences for chat to do all that for you, but being able to use it as a tool to help you save time, help it think through processes for you. I was, for example, this is not podcast related, but very easily could be applicable here. I was cleaning up my inbox because it was a mess. And I was like, I really need a better system for this. And this is what I want it to do. And so I had, I talked with chat about this is what I wanted to do. How would I do that? And it gave me the process. It's good at that. It's good at you give it a prompt. It'll, it'll come out with the outcome. But if you're talking about, so repurposing could be great. Coming up with outlines, structures, or whatever that you've already created the content for, sure, why not? I think where it gets, where it gets dangerous for, for me personally, is, like I said, leaning on it to be the creative director, to be the knowledge, to be the copywriter from the beginning. So, and I really hope, and the future of podcasting, because I know it's already started a little bit with this AI voice. And I think for me, that's not somewhere I want to go, you know, but I do think it can be a tool just like we have project management tools, just like we have finance management tools. I think it can really help us, especially as women and moms, to save time, to be able to create some systems more easily, things that we do all the time, you know, automate those things. Yes, absolutely. But I do think we have to be very aware of how we're using it. Totally. 27:37 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) Yes. That is, I think, such a good perspective, because I think so many people are like, all AI, and like, don't ever talk about the risks, so to speak, like associated with it. But like, yeah, using AI with both a brain and a heart to like, it's still you. And like you said, use it as a tool to save that time. But like, I love I that you said you are the most creative and valuable piece of your business. isn't that like, don't, let's not forget that, you know? Yes. Yeah. 28:08 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) I know. I, I found myself writing emails. I would find myself kind of getting stuck. would have writer's block and in a way that I hadn't before because I was relying too much on the AI to give me ideas. So I was like, nope, I need to start myself. I need to make sure I have an idea fleshed out and then I'll take it and make sure that it is tightened up. There's grammar good or whatever. If I'm too repetitive, it can help me with things like that. But it just, I personally noticed for me that I, if you don't use that creative muscle, it starts to wither like your, like your muscles in your body. You know, if you don't use that creative part of your brain, I was like, oh no, this is not good. 29:00 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) And there's data and studies out there showing that, like, memory loss and creativity and critical thinking are all going downhill from AI overuse. Yeah. 29:11 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) And that is, and honestly, that gives me anxiety to, to feel that, that reliance on AI to do those things for me. Because what, you know, what if it goes away or you don't have your phone with you? It just creates unnecessary anxiety. So, yes, that's how I choose personally to use it. 29:35 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) Yeah, I'm right there with you on that. Totally great tool. I don't want to not use it. That would be silly. And what are the ways we can use it where, like, appropriately? Yeah. Yeah. In the right place. Okay, so you work with a lot of podcasters and my listeners, you know, are, you know, have been on podcasts. They've guested, you know, might also host their own podcast. What do you, does something come up for you when, like, do you, what questions do you hear repeatedly from podcasters that signal that, like, maybe they're focused on the wrong metric? 30:18 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) Does something come to mind for you there? I think what comes to mind is just, like I said before, the general question or challenge that people always come with first, before you dig in, is how do I grow my show? And I think that's not the wrong question to ask, but I think there's absolutely more nuance to the question. And so usually, and inside the community, we dig into it all the time, because as service providers, as business owners, you know, we have goals that are related to selling our offers. That's. That's how we make money. Yes, you can, we talk about affiliate, you know, getting affiliate money and sponsorships for your podcast, but the best way to use your podcast is as a marketing arm for your offers that you sell in your business. That's the most profitable way to use your podcast. And so when you lose sight of that as the main goal, you focus, you start to focus too much on those numbers that don't matter, the downloads primarily, you know, even the chart position doesn't matter if you're not converting people to clients. So I think it's easy. We've noticed it's easy to focus on those easily measurable and very visible like vanity metrics, if you will, like on social media. But other than just the knowing that you have that many. It's not going to get, it's not going to pay your bill. It's not going to, you know, put food on your table if you have 20,000 downloads and no one is converting to be a client. So I, and there is usually some, if someone comes and they say, well, I have, you know, my show's been growing, but I, it's just not doing what I want it to do. That's the other thing I hear people say is, oh, I've had my podcast for several years now, and I'm not sure if it's doing what I want it to do, or I don't really know if it's, if it's doing anything. And to that, I would say, one, what do you want it to do? And two, you do, back to the beginning, you need to have some ways to measure those. If it's clients coming in, if it's leads coming in to your email list, if it is, you know, whatever that is, if it's simply just for. For you, may be you are using the podcast to make those connections with other people in your industry to speak on their stages. And so maybe you only want 10 really great connections a year. And that's your metric. Have you done that? So understanding what you really need to be measuring versus what is commonly talked about as a measurement of your podcast success. I think that is, that has been the biggest sort of signal to me that we need to dig in and talk about some of the nitty gritty things inside of the podcast. 33:38 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) That is so good because it's so easy to see others celebrating and they should celebrate so many downloads. You know, their chart ranking going up, how cool that they have these sponsors or they're making, you know, some affiliate money. But like you said, like actually selling your own offer is probably going to be the actual most profitable. Way to, to use that. Um, that's really refreshing. I feel like to hear because it's such an ego boost to like have those other things. And that's not bad. Like that, like more numbers, you know, it doesn't necessarily hurt, but also is it helping? Right. So for the flip side of that, I don't know if you have anything you want to add on, but like what questions should these more established podcasters start asking to turn their show into this real business asset? A hundred percent. 34:32 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) And I think that's where the, the real work that matters starts to happen. Um, and you know, this very well, but SEO has to be number one. You have to be your title, your description, your, your episode titles. Should be optimized for what your ideal listener is looking for, searching for their problems, their stages of awareness that needs to. Speak to them so that when they're searching in the podcast player or Googling or chat GPT-ing it, that you're going to show up as an answer to their question. And too many times I see podcasters with really good intentions, their episodes have cutesy names or they're not, they're kind of vague and they don't really get to the meat of why somebody would listen to that episode. And focusing on SEO and those types of keywords will help the right people find you and see that to begin with. So that's, that's number one is before you do anything else, go in and look at your SEO, your episode title. Is it clear when someone just lands on it? Do they know who it's for and what it's about in the first like three seconds? Because if not, they're probably going to click off. It's going right. 35:58 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) Yeah. Yeah. 35:59 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) They're going to. Just move right on. People, you know, attention spans are so short now. So you've got to let them know really quickly if it's for them or not or not. Like maybe that's fine, too. Like values first marketing. If that's not your thing. Good. You know, move on. So I think that is the number one thing I would look at. Number two, I would also may not be popular, but I look at your listener retention. Look at your current audience. Who is already listening? Do they stick around? Engage with those people when possible. And yes, by nature, podcasting is hard to do both ways. So what do you need? You need to get them on your email list. So having a holistic, what we call podcast funnel. So some way to get them from listener on your email list or in your ecosphere where you. Okay, Thank can engage with them. Usually that's not going to be social media because algorithm and it's it's you're at that mercy. But email, you have that platform that you own that you can send out and connect with people on a more personal level. And so that in itself can help you clarify your message. It can help you make those connections. It can help you by putting in the podcast episodes that are applicable to that person at that time, make it more likely they're going to go listen and that they're going to go share it with somebody else who would benefit from it, too. So thinking about, I guess, the bigger tip in that number two is to think about how your podcast fits in the bigger picture of your business and really make sure that it connects to everything else you've got going on. It's an ecosphere. It's your marketing assets. It's not in a silo. That's something I see too often. As podcasters, because we, you know, we love podcasting. started the podcast, but then sometimes it's easy to lose sight of the fact that that is part of everything else you have going on. So, yeah, having a marketing workflow, having those assets be reused, repurposed, and knowing where things fit in your marketing ecosphere. Yeah, yeah, totally. 38:31 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) And honestly, as a podcaster, I've been doing this for a year and a half now, I'm like, if you don't, like, for the amount of production work, like, even on a very basic level that it takes to produce a podcast, like, even with support in that, I'm like, for the amount of work that it takes, like, why would you not be doing the SEO to help it be found? Why would you not be putting people, like, it's just not sustainable otherwise. And I think that's why there's such a large burnout rate. Like it's like for the first seven to 10 episodes, the majority of people don't make it past that. And then even the first year, a lot of people don't make it past that because they're not seeing the ROI for like the work that they are putting in. And I don't know, I've also heard like after the one year mark is like when you really start to gain traction. But that's a big, long commitment to have. Yeah. Yeah, but you're so right. 39:28 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) I mean, that has everything to do with you sticking around, you continuing the podcast. And it is, if you have a podcast, you know, it takes time and effort. Even if you outsource some of that, it takes, then you have to pay for that. And so there's a lot that goes into it. Absolutely. And to that point, think about other ways you can use your podcast because that is a huge amount of knowledge and resource that hopefully when you are recording it will benefit. fit. More than just one person. You're probably answering a question that a lot of people have. You're probably highlighting a topic that a lot of people could benefit from. So we just talked to somebody we did a mini audit for inside the collective, and she was saying she answers a lot of questions in the DMs. And we said, well, is there a podcast episode that you've done that could help, like, that answers those questions? And she was like, yeah, actually, I've done a few episodes that could answer those questions. So save your time. Send them that episode link that they could just go listen. They could dive in, get a huge amount of value. And in that episode, hopefully, you've got a call to action to get in your world via a lead magnet or some other way they can get on your email list. And then you've got them to engage with and help them on a deeper level. So thinking about other ways you can use your podcast episodes to work for. Were you? Because you've already created that content. 41:02 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) Yeah. Yeah. It's not a one and done. Like it is smart. It's not lazy. Like it's smart to repurpose them, reuse them. Like at the end of every year, like recap some of your favorite episodes or your top ranking ones, or like put them in your welcome sequence, do an email of like, here's some of my best content. I feel like even in my Copy and Clarity Club members, I'm like sending them, oh, you need to listen to this episode if you're asking this question. Like I use it as a resource for my paying clients. Yes. Like that is the level of value that that is being offered. 41:36 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) And we, one way, if you don't have a lead magnet, you're like, I don't even know what I would do. If you have a good amount of podcast episodes that apply, we've talked about this a little bit inside the community too. If you have podcast episodes that are kind of like a start here for that very beginner who may have found you getting them acquainted with whatever that challenge. Or if there's a couple episodes, so maybe two, three episodes, four episodes that would walk somebody who's brand new to you through that topic or something very specific of a phase they may be in awareness or where they are with their journey regarding your topic, you can create a playlist and have that be an opt-in. They're then on your email list. You send them the playlist in Spotify directly. Then there's not an overwhelming, because what happens is you go to somebody's podcast, you see all the 80, 100, whatever many episodes, and you're like, I don't even know where to start. And so they may click on a podcast episode that's not as relevant to them as it could be, or that maybe speaks to a different phase and then you've lost them at that point because they think it's not for them. So giving them a start here or a bundle of, I think my friend Kylie Chandler calls it a podcast bundle. Where it's essentially like a starter kit or a list of podcasts that the episodes that will really help them where they're at right there. And they don't have to go find them themselves. And that's an opt-in, like that's a value add. 43:14 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) Yeah, I've seen a ton of people do this. I have one client who has organized all of her episodes by like, she's a health practitioner and she organized her episodes into this Excel sheet of just like, if you have this symptom, listen to this episode. And it's just like, it is this asset that continues to, you know, just the way it's organized can be super helpful. And like, just to help give another tangible example of exactly what you're talking about, like if you download my services guide, I'm going to send you my episodes on, do I really need a copywriter? Do I want done for you? Or do I want DIY support? How do I know which one I want? What questions do I ask when hiring a copywriter? How does the copywriter take on my authentic brand voice? You're going to get all that because like, I don't want to answer it again, to be honest. I don't want to answer be 44:00 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) But that's great because you're making it easier for them. That's what, that is exactly what people want. So it's not lazy. It's not cheating. It's, it's being of service. 44:13 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) Yeah. And I love that it can so easily be audio and then also have it like in blog form because I know looking at my own data, it's like, I'm kind of split 50-50. Like half will click on the blog link, half will listen, listen to the audio version. And SEO purposes, great to have both. So good. 44:32 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) I love that. 44:33 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) Yes. Okay. Oh man, this has been so good. And I feel like really gets down to like, what do you like? Yeah. The core of like, what do you actually need to do to grow your show in a way that is smart and not just building, you know, the ego or what sounds good or what could look great on social media, but what is actually going to like move the needle and like support your bottom line there. So I hope that's freeing, you know, Yeah. 45:00 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) I hope that is like a breath of fresh air to not have to chase those numbers and that it is very attainable to have your podcast be a very profitable marketing strategy for you. 45:17 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) Yeah, as long as you are speaking to your people, yeah, that's what you need. You don't need a million other, you know, other people who aren't even like looking for what you offer. Good. Okay. And then, Amanda, we also love to get to know the human behind, you know, all the expertise that you've shared with us today. So what is a small joy outside of business that is fueling you right now? I love this question. 45:43 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) And I really did have to think about this. So this may sound really silly, but my daughter is in fourth grade and she does cheer and she does gymnastics. And this year I say I got roped into, but actually. I really love it, being the assistant cheer coach. And it's just been really fun. They cheer the basketball games. It's just fourth and fifth graders. It's really low stakes. But it's just been so fun. Most of these girls haven't done cheer before. And I did cheer a million years ago in high school. And I got to be honest, like it taps into something that I haven't really been able to exercise in a long time. So I've really loved being involved and seeing her cheer and helping these girls learn cheers and do cheers at the games. And their parents have been so proud. And that's just been really good. That is so fun. 46:41 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) I did not know that about you. I literally called you a cheerleader at the top of this episode. And I had no idea that like you actually are a cheer mom. No, yes. 46:52 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) I mean, yes, I'm not a cheer mom. Like, you know, I don't want to be stereotyped as that. But, um. I know some cheer moms. But when I was in high school, I did do competitive cheer. And I was not great at it by any means. I will not be out there winning trophies, but it was really fun. I've always loved dance. I've been doing dance in some way, shape, or form. And I think that, yeah, just the creative movement and being part of a team, like things that you just don't get to do as much as an adult. I really love that. Yeah. So, yes, I was a literal cheerleader. 47:31 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) Yeah. Yeah, you don't fit the stereotype, but I love that you were. And like, I don't know, it just makes sense with what you do. Like, truly, like you do, like, genuinely cheer us on and like really care about, you know, our success and what's working for us and all of that. So that's awesome. And I totally relate. I'm like, something about sport, no matter what sport it is, really connects people. And it's, yeah, so fun. Something about the movement. Don't get me started on that because I used to. 48:00 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) I in sports, so we can chat about that some other time because I have such a place that I think sports, so many life lessons in sports of any kind that you, you know, whether it's for competitive or not competitive, I think there's so many life lessons and so many people I look up to are coaches on teams because I think there's lots to be learned about leadership and life and all of that. 48:28 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) Oh, for sure. For sure. Yeah. I was a high school cross-country coach for a couple of years and I was just cleaning out the closet. Then I was like looking through like old like thank you notes and just like, oh man, like it was, it was such a special, special time to have that impact. So anyways, we could go on, but if our guests, and I'm sure they do want to stay connected with you, I know you have two ways. If you want to share that with us. 48:55 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) Yeah, would love for, if you're listening to this before. We're April 20th, 2026. We would love to have you at our in-person conference in Nashville. It's going to be amazing. This is our third year of doing it, and we always get really great feedback from people who are able to attend. It's not just to sit down and have keynotes spew, you know, speaking to you, at you. It very much is a chance to get to know other mom podcasters, to hear what is working. It's a lot like our community in person. We want people to walk away with new connections, new friendships, and having actual tangible tips they can take and implement. So it's super fun. Yeah. And you can find out about that in the link in the show notes. Megan's going to put that in there. And then if it's after April or you're not sure if you're going to be able to listen, I know logistics are a real thing for moms, especially. You've got to like, you've to figure out a lot of things before you can get on an airplane and go to. you. Another City. So if that's not your, if you're not gonna be able to come to the conference, we would love for you to connect on momfriendsmedia.com. We've got our collective at momfriendsmedia.com forward slash collective, which is our community that is always on no matter, you know, where we are in the year, we're always there. And we have lots of great, very smart, very generous mom podcasters in there, where again, we share what's working, what's not, we have experts in there. Megan's actually gonna be an expert in there sharing about how to be found by AI and as a podcaster. So we're really excited about the things we have coming up in there. And we're always open to suggestions about how to make it better too. So if you join the collective, then you help build the collective too. So we're really excited about those two. And feel free to ask me questions, shoot me an email, DM me, whatever. If you're not. I'm about any of it. I'll be honest with you. I'm not here to be like, yes, you absolutely need it. So yeah, I'd love to connect. 51:09 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) Awesome. Yeah. And I can vouch for how actionable it is, which I think is why I love it so much and keep coming back. And the way you've intentionally structured the conference to not just have people talking at you, but really just like you are able to share and listen to others sharing of like what, like the real, real behind the scenes and what's working. And I always have a takeaway or change, you know, something about my process after every month we meet. So I'm so glad. Yeah. 51:38 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) That's, that's the goal. That's the goal for me to, to just have you guys, because there's not really a space. That was the main reason we created that because there, there's a lot of Facebook groups. There's a lot of podcasting circles, but the intention for the community is to be a safe space where you can come and really talk about. Yeah. I mean. Be honest about the numbers and ask and say, you know, this really isn't working for me. What's working for you? And that's okay. So you're always, any mom podcaster, yes, and woman podcaster is absolutely welcome there. Awesome. 52:14 - Megan Kachigan (Megan Kachigan) Well, thank you so much for your time, your expertise, for sharing with us, just your heart for what you do, and your true, like, genuine, like, care for mom podcasters, because we are a special group, and that level of support is definitely so meaningful. So thank you so much. has been so great having you on today. 52:35 - Amanda Bennett (gotchamama.com) Yeah, thank you for having me here.