01 - Living My New Norm After Surviving Breast Cancer
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01 - Living My New Norm After Surviving Breast Cancer
Scarves, Sisters, and Second Chances: My Cancer Story
Cancer transformed my perspective on life, self-love, and family bonds, revealing strengths I never knew I'd possessed and deepening connections with those who matter most.
• Sisters Venus and Donna played crucial roles during Sherry's cancer journey, with Venus acting as primary nurse and Donna providing emotional support
• A botched port installation led to a serious infection that became septic - a complication that felt more threatening than the cancer itself
• Reframing my scars as "new beauty marks" to help restore self-esteem after physical changes
• Hair loss was emotional yet surprisingly empowering, leading to a new aesthetic with colorful scarves and bold earrings
• The silence around breast cancer in the Black community creates unnecessary isolation when connection is most needed
• Confronting mortality permanently altered my outlook, propelling me forward with newfound purpose
• Watching how the cancer my journey inspired growth not just with me but in those around me became the most beautiful outcome
• Venus completed her bachelor's degree despite challenges, while Donna opened her podcast studio, Maker Street Studios
• The greatest lesson: life is meant to be lived "out loud" - embracing uncertainty and pursuing dreams despite fear
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and my son. They were there for me during the whole journey and, gosh, I mean I don't want to cry because I feel like I want to cry, but it was very emotional and going into the chemo room I thought was going to be a lot of doom and gloom.
Speaker 2:So I was surprised you said the chemo room. What's the chemo room?
Speaker 1:A lot of doom and gloom. So I was surprised you said the chemo room. What's the chemo room? The chemotherapy room, and I think anybody that has and to anybody that's new. I just call it the chemo room but it's the chemotherapy where you get all your chemo treatments. We go into that room and you can smell all the medicine in the air.
Speaker 2:And I was like so I've seen them, probably on television what you're describing as a room where they have, like these chairs lined up along the wall. Then they have, you would see, like a bag on the, whatever the bag holder is, and it's dripping the medicine into the body.
Speaker 1:So that's the chemo room that you're talking yes, that's when they give you all your infusions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, got it. That makes sense to me. I just wasn't. There were some terminologies that you sort of have to get used to whenever, you know, whenever there's any conversation about your personal experience, because everybody as Sherry has said this before in one of her episodes you sort of cancer is your own, because your experience may not be like someone else's experience. It's just that it could be that your experience someone may have had a different reaction to the medicines that you have.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Someone else may have had, their hair was differently, it didn't come out. Oh, you know whatever, it's just yeah, it's your own.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know and I really, and so, and having that, you really do need to appreciate and understand the terminology that's used by yes.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to try to make sure I'm a little bit more descriptive to the newcomers that's coming in. So Renee said very, very true, donna. So she's in agreement with you, renee. True, donna, so she's in agreement with you, renee. So, renee, are you? Renee is asking how can I share some of the things that I dealt with so far as self-esteem after breast cancer. Well, oh my well. So when you look at yourself after having breast reconstruction, after going through a kind of like a botched port installation, Wait, Sherry.
Speaker 1:Cancer because he had that was his closest appointment, so cancer is really out there.
Speaker 2:That's disturbing.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:How do we deal with it's going to become real to a lot of people Because it is so rampant and you know we really try to do what we can to avoid. You know we watch all the videos and we talk to different friends and different ones and we try to do everything that we can to avoid.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Cancer. We eat the right foods and we avoid Certain foods we don't eat carcinogens. Yes exactly yeah. Cancer bombs, all the things you just don't do those things, but yet and still you can't control if it's going to happen to you.
Speaker 1:Well, I did have Venus, like I said, who was the neighbor. So she was constantly spraying stuff, wiping down doorknobs over and over. She made sure that she wanted to clean and clean and clean my apartment because I was now living with a jeopardized immune system, and if there was a germ to be found, venus found it and she killed it, I'm telling you. So there was a lot of preparation with getting me there and then, once I had the surgery, I actually had my bed moved into my, my living room. You remember that the bed was in the living room because I felt like I wanted to be near my garden and I wanted to be looking out of the sliding glass door as something beautiful that would make me smile while going through such a traumatizing, life-altering change.
Speaker 1:And I mean it was, it was a lot, it was a lot to see. That's why family and sister support is so important, because it it was a lot to go through. And venus, you, you were there, donna, you were there, donna, donna was, uh, she was like, look, can I just throw some money at you and you just because? But donna had to come and be the nurse, because we we'll talk about that botched port in a few minutes, but we so it was.
Speaker 2:I just want to add it really was emotional Venus, as you were saying to to really for people to really understand what, how it impacts the family impacts um the family. So if you have a family, like if you're close, uh, a close-knit family, yeah, and when one hurt, you all hurt or you're very concerned yeah, so it's like you, because you really need to alter your life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you need to change, you know your habits may change when I say that your routines may change, because instead of me just coming straight home from work, I would go take care of Sherry, the one who was in need. But that's part of the process of when one hurt, we all hurt.
Speaker 1:Yes, and that is true. And Renee, you have a good question. So, venus and Donna, your roles. She wanted to know for Venus and Donna, donna, what was the different roles expected from each of you, because I know Venus was like the nurse. She, after the breast reconstruction she was over there changing all of my. I had these little like grenade, like bulbs that they had going and they had to be changed every morning. Venus was all okay.
Speaker 3:How you?
Speaker 1:doing. She's coming over in and Donna was did she have a tray?
Speaker 2:Yeah, she needed to have a tray Go ahead, real nurse.
Speaker 1:She was on time every morning. Okay, very seriously.
Speaker 3:She took it very seriously.
Speaker 2:So we yeah.
Speaker 3:So we we ended up with the breast reconstruction. The fluid would drain, so she came home with these two bags that would drain the fluid or catch the fluid that drained.
Speaker 1:Yeah, any extra fluid.
Speaker 3:So they would get full overnight or full at a certain time of day, and I was the person that changed it and drained it. I took care of her wound because at that time they didn't have a nurse that could come out and take care of the wound. So there's an open wound there that we have to take care of.
Speaker 3:You and Donna both did that yeah so that was, you know, my role was the caretaker, made sure everybody ate, you know, was shopping for the food, things like that, and I would not go to bed until either the apartment was already cleaned or cleaned the kitchen was clean, and then I would go back and do my homework and then I had to be to work.
Speaker 1:I was thinking about how Venus was when I would, after showers or taking a bath, I could barely move. Venus would like literally moisturize my legs and my toes. I felt like well, I like.
Speaker 2:Keep that going Okay.
Speaker 1:When I'm good, still come over and moisturize my toes. Thank you, I appreciate that, but Venus was there, so Donna Robe was coming over and she was back out, okay let me, okay, let me talk about my own okay, okay, what's good?
Speaker 2:so yes, Venus was the primary nurse, she was the RN, I was the LPN, so I was the one who actually, you know, I would help Sherry to like we had to pack her because Sherry had a botch port, a botch port installation. We're going to talk about that in a minute, but the process of what happened, I'm just saying that I was there to help to make sure that the the packing was done Because, as Venus had mentioned, there were no nurses.
Speaker 1:No nurses. They didn't have any wound nurses.
Speaker 2:Available to come and treat Sherry. We became Sherry's wound nurses.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And I just I filled in where Venus was polite enough to leave some things for me to do. I know Because Venus and Sherry live closer, don get over here right now. Venus and Sherry live closer to each other than I do, so Venus was there to be the person to make sure, and Stephen yeah, I cannot omit Stephen. Stephen did a very good job. Stephen did a wonderful job One of the ones who did most of the work. I was just there and they were kind enough to leave a few things for me to do.
Speaker 2:So I was emotional support, Talking to her on the phone, rubbing her head, all the stuff that I that's what I do. It's my role emotional support.
Speaker 1:To answer your question. It brought us a lot more closer because we were all facing the possibility that I could not be here anymore, because at that point I felt like Venus and Donna was doing all that. It wasn't even before this, before I started the chemotherapy treatment, I really felt that it wasn't even the cancer that I was worried about. I was more worried about the infection that I got from the wound.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about it. We're here, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I became septic.
Speaker 3:So let's go back to how you got. So we need to talk about the port, because that was one of the things that needed to be done before you could get your surgery done.
Speaker 2:No, it was after the surgery.
Speaker 3:After the surgery yeah, yeah, To be able to receive your chemo.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:So after the surgery, there is a port that needs to be put in?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I was going to say if somebody can explain what a port is, so the port is.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 1:So let me tell you what a port is. I call it an installment. They install like this little, tiny, little type of chamber that goes right beneath your skin but it also connects right into one of your large veins that run to your heart. So this will allow them to do chemo without having to always have to go find a vein, stick you with a vein, and also the chemo can be painful. It can be burning those smaller veins that you have here.
Speaker 1:Going in here in a port. It made it better and it was easier, and you really had to keep these ports clean. So when you would go to the, I had, I had to watch a whole video on okay, this is how you do it when the nurse is wiping it down. You got to turn your head this way so you won't breathe on it. It was, I know it was a lot. So, um, the port was there to give you the chemotherapy and it is hard to describe, but the port, the very first port they put in, became infected Like day two. So day one I was feeling horrible. Day two, I was called a doctor. Day three, I was in the hospital. I was called a doctor. Day three, I was in the hospital and they had to remove the port and put in a PICC line. A PICC line is also another way of giving you your chemotherapy, because they put it in your arm and I had it like in my arm and they really were trying to get me to get my chemotherapy right away after the surgery, but it was a holdup because of the infected port, and so that's how I ended up with the PICC line. So I did most of my chemotherapy with the PICC line and they finally installed a new port on the other side.
Speaker 1:So, to get back to the self-esteem that Renee was asking about, how did I overcome it? Well, let me tell you. You look at yourself. You see you have changed and I will say now you have these new beauty marks that you have to. Yes, you got now new beauty marks that you're now taking care of, and you had to see it that way. You couldn't see it as anything more, because that's when you won't have that self-esteem. Now I have these new beauty marks. I'm going to make sure they're well taken care of.
Speaker 1:I moisturize every day because I had to go through radiation treatment and the skin dries up. So um it just, it was just beating marks so I was able to get over. But I did. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna lie. I did have some days when it was tough, but I had my sisters there Venus was there, donna was there, they they watched, they watched me just try to overcome.
Speaker 1:I was always getting into something, because that's just who I am. I won't even give you the name they used to call me when I was growing up, because it's not worth mentioning, but I'm always into something. So I would go outside to try to mess with my plants or I would try to walk. Because I lost some mobility, I started learning how to walk again. You have to find the self-esteem and you have to find the silver lining in what you're going through, because the silver lining is you're alive and you have your family. So that's kind of how I feel about it. Getting over the beating marks. No, is the name like Mike Tyson? No, it's not. I am a busybody. So they used to call me Hurricane Sherry. Okay.
Speaker 1:Is somebody asking that, renee, okay.
Speaker 3:So I have a question. So you know when you were the after effects of chemotherapy or the effects during chemotherapy therapy. Can you explain that? Like what was happening with your body? Like a lot of people lose their hair Wow, and that's along with the self-esteem.
Speaker 1:So if you're losing your hair, your appearance change yeah.
Speaker 3:Your appearance is changing and plus you have like breast reconstruction. So how did you deal with those things? Because I would have an issue with it and I don't want to say in vain. But when you're used to yourself looking one way and then, all of a sudden, you have all these changes. So did that work on your self-esteem? Did you feel just ugly to the world and you didn't want to go out? How did it affect you, with all the different things that were happening?
Speaker 1:Well, I definitely have to say that I invested in a lot of scarves because I don't like wigs, so I bought a lot of scarves. Because I don't like wigs, so I bought a lot of scarves. And I also kind of made myself feel pretty because I was still beautiful without the hair you are, and I don't have any hair, and so what I did was I put some makeup on. Vina was telling me to put these big earrings on. She was just telling me because you look beautiful the way you are, I would wear earrings with a scarf, guys.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, I would wear the big earrings and I would put them. But let me tell you, your head would get so cold. It would be so cold. So a lot of times I would have my scarf on or have like a little turban, like those little caps to put on your head at night when I would go to sleep. So I would make sure I did that, thank you. Thank you, renee, and I haven't, I haven't, I, you, renee, and I haven't, I haven't, I haven't lost. So Renee said I'm happy to see that you never lost your essence of who you are after dealing with cancer. Your personality is a happy one. Yeah, I'm always a happy-go-lucky person. I try to be because I feel truly blessed. So that's kind of where I'm at.
Speaker 2:I just want to add that my experience when you were going through the hair loss you did acknowledge the fact that your hair was coming out as expected, but I felt like you took it more gracefully because it's like you know it's going to happen.
Speaker 2:I knew it was coming, and with all the other, the fact that you were diagnosed with cancer and and you just don't know what the outcome is going to be, but you do know some of the symptoms and some of the things that you're going to experience. I felt like you took your hair loss with grace. Sherry would wear these cute scarves. She would wear these cute hats.
Speaker 2:She would put like, just just decorative things on her head, on her head, you know, to sort of, just like you know I, I own this. I have cancer. I'm going to beat this, but through the process I'm going to. I'm just going to be alive. I'm just going to that's it lives and you just sort of you know, you did. I think you just you did very well, yeah, with um dealing with the fact that there was going to be some type of bodily change in the whole process.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but nobody actually tells you that you lose hair everywhere.
Speaker 3:Well, cher, I think, because you did so much research.
Speaker 3:Yes, and you knew what most of the effects would be. I mean, we dealt with some that well, we didn't know this was going to happen. But because you did all your research and because you educated yourself on the effects of it, you kind of knew what to expect and, like Donna said, you took it with grace, beauty and you just work with it. I mean, I thought it was the most beautiful thing when she would have her scarf on and her red framed glasses. What happened to those glasses?
Speaker 1:Were they red? No, I never had red ones, but they're on your face now. You got my praise.
Speaker 3:Well, not these, but you had these beautiful red ones and you took a picture and you were bald with the picture. I do have it.
Speaker 1:I was trying to see if I could find it because I wanted to try to post it in here. But I remember when the first piece of hair fell out, I had to call Venus. I'm like Venus. The hair just slid right off into my lap. It was like a chunk of hair. I was like, oh my God, it's happening. I was hoping that I was not going to lose my hair. I was like, oh my God, it's happening. I was hoping that I was not going to lose my hair. I thought it was going to be just some thinning, but it just came out. I had my barbers just finish cutting off the rest of it. Then the rest just came out. You can still see the little tiny pieces that was left. Those were falling out. It was emotional. Those were falling out.
Speaker 2:It was too. It was emotional yeah it was.
Speaker 1:It was very emotional, it was like oh my hair.
Speaker 2:I mean, you masked it well, Mm-hmm. So.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, Thank you, Thank you. So I mean, I want to now talk about what am I doing to what am I doing? Now? Donna's over here, acting up as usual. I am not. What am I doing to try moving forward?
Speaker 1:I didn't really realize how many black people that are so quiet about having breast cancer. No one really talks about it and I really wanted to talk about it a little bit to let people know that there's a light at the end of the tunnel. There's so much that you can be doing. There's exercise, changing how you eat, spending more time with your family, research, spending more time with yourself, spending more time with nature out there doing it. You just there's a lot to do and you don't sit around the house feeling sorry for yourself. So I decided that I want to share my story as much as I can to be an encouragement to anyone that's going through this or been through it and they don't know exactly what's next for them. There's a lot to do after this. There's a lot to smile about. There's a lot to you're going to love. I think I love myself more now than I ever have before. I really do. I love myself a lot. Yeah, I really do.
Speaker 2:We love you too. We love you more I mean we still love you.
Speaker 1:Thank you for loving me because it did show. So I'm doing some new things. I'm doing a podcast. Donna, what has your personal growth been and what are you doing to live life out loud?
Speaker 2:I think that as we grow older, because this to me is an age thing. As we get older, you will realize that you live. There's more life behind you than in front of you. You've heard people say that right, so it's just like seize the.
Speaker 3:Moment.
Speaker 2:Carpe diem is the one right. Seize the day. Seize the day.
Speaker 3:Seize the day. Carpe diem, all of the things Right.
Speaker 2:So I think that I think that when there is opportunity or you have dreams that you have, life is short you going through your cancer treatment and the fact that you are cancer free as far as I know, yes, I am, you're cancer free, you're correct, it's just a matter yes, it's a matter of living life as if you know, you want to take off some of the guardrails.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I don't say, I'm not saying be reckless, Come on y'all.
Speaker 2:Don't be foolish, but all I'm saying is I think that you should give yourself, allow yourself to experience a little bit more risk. Allow yourself to experience a little bit more risk Because it's a term that I always say that I feel like I was very risk averse, which means that I didn't like to risk things. I did not want to go through loss, I did not want to go through embarrassment, I didn't want to go through any of the things that was going to bring me out of my comfort zone. So, you know, as I get older and as life is changing and as we experience different things, as we get, as you know, as life continues on for us, I am doing, you know, I'm Carpe Diem Good Start my podcast studio.
Speaker 3:We are in Congratulations.
Speaker 2:Yes. The very podcast studio Yay.
Speaker 1:So Venus.
Speaker 2:Wait, what oh.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, am I cutting you off? I'm done yet Wait a minute, okay, okay, okay, now you want to talk.
Speaker 2:Go ahead Right, but even in this you know what? Go ahead, I'm listening. So even in this, I just feel like it's just more of an opportunity to think more about ourselves.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Because, as we were younger mothers, we actually had to care for others and as wives, we have to care for others. So, as we get older, let's take a moment and just take some time to care for ourselves. Let's seek to do what we want to do and you won't be surprised how much husbands will support you, because my husband for this podcast studio and the meeting space which is, you know, the minitorium, and the photography studio which is at the other end of the building, all these things, he is very supportive in me and getting this business going.
Speaker 2:So, if anybody's in need of any podcasting rental studio, come see me.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:If you need a meeting space for a small group 30 or less or if you need a photography studio, hit me up.
Speaker 1:Okay, so. So where's your? Is it um?
Speaker 3:what is the name of your?
Speaker 1:yeah, what's the name of your studio?
Speaker 3:What's the name of the studio?
Speaker 1:Where are you just?
Speaker 2:throw it out there. So the studio's name is Maker Street Studios, with an S at the end, because there is a Maker Street Studio. You don't want to go there. You want to go to Maker Street Studios and that's my website. It's thenamecom, you will find a little bit more information about the different services that we offer here. So my sisters are very engaged.
Speaker 1:Yes, hands on all the way, venus so what was the question again? Well, I was going to ask you what is some of your personal and professional, what are some of your dreams and aspirations that you're trying to do for yourself and what has this experience post cancer? We are both survivors and survivors. What are some of your dreams that now you feel like you want to try to reach and plans?
Speaker 3:so when you feel like you want to try to reach and plans, okay. So when she was diagnosed with cancer, I was going to get my associate not my associate my bachelor's degree. So you know, as we, as we're going through all of this, I did have to put it on the back burner for at least a year. And then I did finish getting my degree April of last year, so it'll be a year. And then I did finish and accomplish getting my degree April of last year, so it'll be a year. So that was a dream that I accomplished, but I did make it through.
Speaker 1:What was the name of the program that you did? So I went to.
Speaker 3:Strayer, and I have a bachelor's degree in business administration. I worked at my job for the last 27 years. I experienced a lot of personal growth there, just learning from my colleagues and learning technology and how it works. So, and you know, I do want to achieve some other things. I'm looking forward to retirement so I can start my own business. And I did dabble in something. So I did balloon art, I did some decorating for a party Then you forget how old you are, because then you're aching.
Speaker 3:You're putting up these arches and you're doing all this stuff for a party. All the arthritis is kicking in. But so my personal. I achieved a lot of personal growth just being around Sherry and how she lived when she had cancer. She always lived out loud, always, always lived out loud, and I'm an introvert. So it's taken a lot for me to be on here and talk because, you know, I know people can see me at my job. I, no one sees me. So, um, I am my. You know I want to, yeah, I want to be able to be more of a extrovert yeah, that's a personal wait, can I jump in?
Speaker 2:on this yes, you can I'm too, close to the mic, I just realized, I just checked the levels. I'm sorry for screaming into the microphone, but anyway, I too, being a Senate, am an introvert. And don't, Sherry, give me this look.
Speaker 1:I almost felt okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2:I'm listening. I'm listening. I really am. So when I go into a room or a crowd or whatever, I prefer to be off in the corner. I'd rather be in the background supporting everyone else. But what I learned is, if I want more out of life, I cannot be introverted. So I've learned to be, and I've learned this new word.
Speaker 1:I'm telling everybody this new word.
Speaker 2:It's called an ambivert A-M-B-I vert. Ambivert is someone who actually is introverted, naturally, but they can be extroverted when they need to be.
Speaker 3:That's me, that's me.
Speaker 2:Venus, you sound like you're going to be an introvert and. Sherry, God bless you.
Speaker 3:I'm an introvert too, she's still working on trying to come out of her introvertedness.
Speaker 2:She's doing a great job. She's got a podcast. I don't even have a podcast.
Speaker 3:Oh, I can't even take the step. I can't take it. I'm so proud of you that you're going through this and I'm with you. The whole thing. Personal growth is to be able to do this, to be able to be comfortable. Yes, I have a, that I can say. But again, being that introvert and taking that first step as an introvert is so hard, and I think that sometimes we do. Sometimes we care what people think about us too, which we need to get over that, because I've gotten over that with age, like I don't give a two rats behind, now what?
Speaker 1:anybody thinks of me.
Speaker 3:So yeah, so we got just live your dream. If y'all see me out in the street, say, hey, you know, but I want to keep going. You're going to say hi back. I'm going to say hi back. Usually I'm just driving and doing my thing and not stopping. It's all about keep going, keep going and achieve personal things and yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm glad I am definitely an introvert. Venus and Donna are more of a social, more social than I am.
Speaker 3:We're introverts, so we can be social when we need to be social.
Speaker 1:They didn't even know I existed half the time until oh Ruby has a third daughter, it's me. So Venus and Donna are more outgoing than I am. And Venus, this is hard, but I said that I want to share my story with anybody that will listen. And I have had some times when I was crippled with fear. I had to step back a minute, but then I had to remember why am I doing this? And then I stepped back right up to that plate and I haven't looked back since. I've been driving Donna crazy, of course, like hey, donna, what you got, can I come over and help you with your studio? Can you come help me at my studio?
Speaker 2:so I've just been living out loud and sharing has been a great help in me developing my studio. Wait, I'm sorry, I forgot to switch the camera, my bad. Sherry has been a great help with me developing my studio. She almost don't know what no means, because you know when I'm like no, you don't have to do, she was like, okay, I'll be over. I mean for real I'm showing up. I'm showing up so yeah, she's been and she is. She is sincere about helping family to achieve 100.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's always a supporter pushing to make sure that um we, we get what we are seeking after yeah, you know if, to do it, you have a support system. If you don't want to do it, she's like I'm here if you decide to change your mind and meanwhile, we just hang out and have a good time.
Speaker 1:That's it. So I mean, I hope everyone is subscribing to my podcast because this is still all new to me, but I am going to share everything with you. Thank you, renee, for watching your podcast is on YouTube yeah, my podcast is on YouTube. It's on two platforms it's on YouTube and it's on Facebook, so you can check them out. It's called Silver Tea and I post about once a week and the spelling is silver.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, so let me give you the spelling, because silver was taken. So I end up the traditional spelling, exactly the traditional spelling. So I end up with, as you see, interruptions S-Y-L-V-R-T-E -A Silver T.
Speaker 2:One more time S-Y-L-V-R, s-y-l-v-r T, t-e-a.
Speaker 1:And I named it after my favorite metal is silver and I absolutely love T, all kinds of T. I even got a whole video on T and more coming, this one, you know so done. So please, if you like what, you just join me, hit that subscribe button, that like button and that follow button.