Transformation Tuesday: What Do You Want?

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Gib. Hello and welcome to another episode of the podcast. I'm Gib Gerard here with another special transformation Tuesday episode of the show. That's where we take audio from our weekly transformation Tuesday broadcast, and we present it to you. This is, this is life advice that we have taken from years of being on the radio and producing intelligence for your life, and we bring it to you to help you get from the place you are to the place you want to be. If you are interested in joining that, you can find more information out about it@tesh.com or look for the transformation Tuesdays Facebook group. If you find us on Facebook group, transformation Tuesdays with John Tesh, we'll give you all the info to start joining our weekly calls. In the meantime, you get to enjoy it here. So here you go, without further ado, here is transformation Tuesday with me and John Tesh. All right. Hello, everybody. It is great to see you guys. I'm Gib Gerard. In a minute, John Tesh is supposed to be on here with us, and we'll go through some of that stuff when he gets here. We'll say hi to him. But in the meantime, this is transformation Tuesday. We are here once a week on Tuesdays to help you. What's our motto? Say it with me. Get you from the place you are to the place you want to be. Now, if you have not taken advantage of our Facebook group, our transformation Tuesday Facebook group, if you are not posting in there, and a few of you are, but I would love to see that be as rich of a community as we can make it. There is no charge for it. It is just a place where we hold each other accountable. I would love to see you guys lean into that. I've been I posted a couple things, and I know last time when I asked you guys what you wanted, you want more you want more information about exercises, and we've been working on that in our Thursday lab. So if you're interested in being a part of the longevity lab, they reach out to Chrissy, and she will walk you through the process to join the longevity lab that is more focused on health. And we're we're moving it towards brain health. We will give you guys at the end of today's I've got a couple of healthy habits from a cardiologist, Dr Jeremy London, we've seen We've seen him before, so we'll have some healthy habits. But I want to focus today. Hello and welcome. John Tesh, everybody. I want to focus today on mentally preparing ourselves, mentally preparing our brains, mentally preparing our focus for the changes that we want to make. Because a lot of us say we want to get from the place we are to the place we want to be, but the concept of the place we want to be is nebulous, meaning it has no form. We don't we just know that there's something in us that wants more. We just don't know what that thing is. So we're going to talk today about how to figure that out, how to invest in yourself to the point where you figure that out. And in the meantime, though, before we get into that, speaking of somebody who has invested in himself, in himself to do the stuff that he wants to do, you've been working lately on your on your upcoming Christmas album. How is that going? John, nope. Can you hear me? Yeah. Okay. It's weird to be doing a curtain in where are we in March? Every time we do one of these? Oh no, we lost him. I will just say that I also have that I've been in a lot of Christmas movies, and we usually shoot them. We usually shoot them in in like July or June, sometimes even as late as August. And you're so hot, praying to be praying to be wrong about every time we do one of these Christmas songs, right? And it said you're in Los Angeles, and it was like 91 degrees the other day. You're like, look over the guitar player. And he goes, Merry Christmas. Yeah, you know it's, it was really funny about the investing, and I'm glad you're talking about this, because that was Warren Buffett. You know who, who started Berkshire Hathaway. He's known as the, as the most successful investor in history, basically. And he was always, always asked that question, what should I invest in? He always says the same thing. He says, invest in yourself and and it's, I know that's sort of nebulous, but it's, it's, it's so true, but it doesn't just mean put money in the bank. And in fact, that's biblical, you know, don't store away your money where moth and rough evil thieves will will destroy and then take it from you. But, but invest yourself. Invest in other people, you know. And that's why, in fact, Melinda, is it? Melinda Gates? No. It's Bezos. Bezos, ex wife, just that she had just recently given away $26 billion and a lot was just for for like Native Americans who couldn't go to you can't, can't afford to go to college, and just all the way down the line. And a lot of other people would hold on to that, to that money. But it's like that. I'm sorry. I don't know what the heck this background is, but there it is. It's gonna say, not your house. It's cool. I should invest in in taking a course on how to use the internet. But anyway, I feel like I was, I don't know if anybody else has the same feeling. But, you know, growing up, I always felt like because, because I things happened to me emotionally, where I lost girlfriends. You know, I got dumped a lot. You know, my dad didn't, didn't, didn't say much about any trophy, whatever, if I didn't even have a trophy, and I brought home, and so I was always afraid of stuff being taken from me and failing. And so that's why I think I got into so many different vocations. But I learned a long time ago that, well, I gave a speech at the new school when I was in New York, and the title of the speech was, make yourself unfireable. And I think we can do that in just in life in general, where the brain really wants to learn new stuff, you know. And I think we get to a certain age where it's like, well, I've done this, and I've done that, I've done this, and then you're like, you stop investing in yourself. Investing in yourself. I learned this the hard way, with going through the through the cancer battle, where it was I needed to my wife was investing in me, Gib was investing in me, my family was investing in me. But I was just like, Okay, I'm done, you know, but, but we need to invest in our health. We need to invest in, you know, in our in our body, and we need to invest in in family, and the returns are just supernatural when you do that. And it's taken me so many years to understand that, but we, Gib, and I, you, you and I both know that we love learning, and there's so many tools that we can use to do that now 100% to that end in terms of figuring out what the plan is if you want a new chapter, or we have this nebulous idea of what we want to do. Here are two Stanford professors being interviewed by Mel Robbins who are discussing exactly the process that we need to invest in in order to figure out what it is, who that person that we want to be is, and begin to paint that picture. And this is called the The Odyssey exercise, and we'll talk about on the other side of it, exercise that you are world famous for, called the Odyssey plan. Can you just walk the listener through a little bit, because it can help you see other lives in yourself and how to live a meaningful life to lean into. So so we know you have to have more ideas to get your best ideas, and if you get stuck on the one idea, you're going to get stuck on a corner. So if we're going to plan the future possibilities, we got to hear from more than one of you. So three is kind of a magic number, because it really gives you some freedom. And one of them is probably the life you're already in. The other one is, if you can't do that, what else would you do? And the third one the wild card. If money were no object, you know, and nobody would laugh at you, what would you do? That's the wild card. Well, maybe I would open the beanie baby store, or I'd start the button shop, you know, whatever the crazy thing is. The reason we ask people to have a crazy idea, it's not because the crazy idea is a good idea. It's because we need to train you to quiet the internal critic. So as soon as you say, Well, you know, the 54 year old woman says, I mean, I'm thinking about going back to medical school. I always wanted to do that. I don't think it's too late, but my friends say I'm all crazy. What do you think? So her internal critic is being encouraged by all of her friends. Internal critic going, well, that's crazy. You can't do that. And that's the part of the evolution that keeps you from being eaten by the saber toothed Tiger, you know. So there's a negative bias built into your brain evolutionarily, lest you be eaten. So you have to learn how to overcome that critic. So the Odyssey plan helps you imagine there's more than one way you can live, and it helps train you to quiet your internal critic so you get the rest of your ideas back. So the way that you help yourself imagine, yep, different possibilities in your life is through the Odyssey planning. You ask yourself three questions, right? What happens in my life if I change Absolutely not. Where am I for five five years, and assuming it goes well, yeah, well, I thank you for that. Like, let's just assume it goes well. System it goes what happens in five years? What is my life? Who am I? Who am I? Okay, second one is, all of this disappears, yep, can't do that. Can't do that, but I gotta pay my bills. Plan B. Got to have a plan b5. Years. What am I doing? Yep, what am I doing? And the third is, Money's no object. Yep, whatever you want, whatever you want. Nobody's gonna laugh. It's gonna work out. What are you gonna do? Yep, you know so funny about this is that we were, we're having dinner with, with, with Scott and Primo. Last night, Kenny and I were and, and the waiter comes up and, and he's talking. And I love interviewing the waiters, right? Always, yeah, yep, you know. And, and so he's coming up, the waiter's coming up and, and Connie can see something in my eyes, and she leans over, she says, Please don't ask him what his five year plan is. I so I love doing it. It's a great way to start a start a conversation with that was a great video. I loved it. Yeah. So just to re to reiterate, guys, when we talk about the place that we want to be, so think about what happens if you change nothing, what happens if you keep putting one foot in front of the other in the in the life you have right now? Now, I think for a lot of you, you've joined this group, you've reached out, maybe because you think things could get a little bit better, or maybe because you feel like you really want to change that. But what happens if the things that you have your security in right now go away completely? What is your plan B? What would you do if tomorrow you're you're let go with, you know, and and you have to pay your bills, or, you know, the job that you were counting on falls through. What is that plan B? What would that look like? And that and literally sit down and write this stuff down, and then the final one, and this is, I think, the most freeing is, what is that crazy idea like, if money were no object? How would you live your life? What would you do? What would you invest your time into? Would you, you know, would you quit everything and start a boutique gym, or they use a beanie baby store or a button store? Whatever those things are, what are the things that you would be doing when you go through the exercise? It's not that any one of those ideas is the life that you should be planning. It's that going through those questions and coming up with written answers for each of those questions begins to tell you the shape that you actually want your life to take. And if you haven't picked it up, if you have to read relentless, because it essentially is those three questions asked over and over and over again throughout his life. It's John's book. So if you guys, you know, I genuinely think you would feel good if you read that book. It does align with what we're talking about here. There's, I just pulled this book up again and I just underlined everything. But this is, it's called, I mentioned it before. It's called Steal Like an Artist. And so the mistake that I've made before is that everything is interesting to me, but, but not everything is a is going to be a successful if you're thinking about a side hustle or something. And so Steal Like an Artist, is basically you. What you do is you, you look he's frozen. You're gonna look for things that you like, that you see you're back. No, yeah, you if you have an idea, Can you still hear me, right? And then you look at people who are successful doing that, and you're like, okay, so because just making a quick decision can really, I mean, people have done this before, where they open up a store or whatever, they haven't done any research on it, but if you combine with what Gib is talking about, right, is, what is it that makes you come alive? And then you figure out, okay, who's doing this, and what does their path look like? And you study them. You're not really stealing their idea, but, but you're fast tracking out of the pain. You're, you're because they're going to tell you what, all the stuff that they did wrong, and that's why, that's why Gib was talking about relentless was, you know, and, you know, just, just health wise, when I was at MD Anderson, doing this, the cancer place, doing this fundraiser, they were telling me about this that their digital twin program, and basically it was, they said, what we do, John, is we take people like you who have a rare form of cancer, who have fought it and beat it back. Is we, we look at all the data, and we have AI to take all the data like that, and then we we crunch it all, and then we figure out, you know, what worked, what didn't, how did it react to your your genetics, your what you eat, your large muscle groups, you know, everything. And we look at that, and then we can use that as a digital twin for somebody else. We can send that to somebody who doesn't have all the reasons. The resources that MD Anderson sends to somebody in Africa or somebody in Omaha, so they can jump the line, and they don't have to have all the crappy, horrible treatments that I had, because I have many digital, 1000s of digital twins. And so when you when you look at what people. Have done. We look at successful people, and you look at you look at their blueprint. You can jump the line and see if that, if that will become a framework for how you can do something, something something new, to stretch yourself. But you're also making an intelligent decision. The other thing that mentally investing in what and what he's talking about there, this idea of looking at what other people have done, of following that blueprint, is that you begin to imagine yourself in that scenario. Now I talk about this all the time. I am in the midst of a very intense period of coaching little league baseball, and one of the things I'm trying to grill into eight, nine and 10 year olds that I have to make focus for two plus hours, you know, several times a week, which is you're well, no easy task. But one of the things that I work with them on and where we are in our development right now is I want them to visualize before every pitch, where what happens if the ball goes to them? What happens if the ball goes somewhere else? And to practice that visualization, and having a blueprint is the key to that visualization, but, and here's Joe Dispenza is going to talk about it with a little bit of Woo. And I want we're going to filter out some of the Woo, some of the like, the more non grounded stuff. But this has been shown time and time again when we mentally practice, when we mentally visualize success through a process and visualize going through the process, it's not enough to visualize the end. You have to visualize going through the process. You get a lot of, if not more, of the benefits than you would if you just practice and make some of those mistakes on your own. So following the blueprint is a proven way to success, the act of rehearsing mentally in your mind who you want to be. The act of just closing your eyes and mentally rehearsing that scene literally causes the brain to look like you already did it. Keep doing it over and over again. The hardware becomes more automatic, like a software program. You naturally get your behaviors to match your intentions because you installed the circuitry practice feeling the elevated emotion. If you feel that emotion, and you say, when I feel this emotion, I can believe in that future, then let me just keep remembering to feel this way in every part of my day. And this is not about positive thinking. This is about conditioning my body emotionally into the future. So if I maintain this modified state of mind and body my entire day. Should there be some evidence in my life as a result of my change in state of being? A synchronicity, a coincidence? And if there is, then I'm going to do it again. And I think that's how we start stepping into that future, right? That's good. These videos are great. Gib, thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. The idea there is that if we lean into this idea of, you know, all right, I'm going to be successful in this area. I'm going to be successful in this area. Two things happen. He's talking dispense. Joe Dispenza likes to talk about how you're reprogramming the circuitry. And there is a part of your brain that you actually are reprogramming. You are grooving those dendrites and making the pathways to success part of your personality and your brain. So that absolutely does happen. But this idea that there is a you know, whether the universe is conspiring for you or not, we can put a pin in that and say like, okay. But the reality is, when you begin to act as though you are doing the thing when you mentally prepare yourself for the success, and you mentally prepare yourself for being successful in the tasks that you have in front of you, and you rehearse being successful through that process. So again, going with baseball, you rehearse what it's going to look like when the ground ball comes to me, I'm going to get my glove to it. And again, this is why I love my kids doing sports. This is why I invest in kids sports. Yeah, I'm going to get the glove to it, I'm gonna pick it up, I'm gonna make that clean throw to first base. We begin to program our brain to expect ourselves to do that. And then when the ball finds us, we are ready. And then when the ball finds us, it feels serendipitous. So we are reinforcing these ideas over and over and over again. If you think that you will be successful at the thing that you're trying to create, whatever that is, you will run into people who are tangentially involved in wherever your goal is, and you will seem more successful in that space, and they will treat you as such, and they will begin to network you into something that gets you to the place you want to be. It's not it's not Woo, it's not chance. It is just that when you begin to believe that you begin to put that out, you begin to expect that you will start to there are signs everywhere for all kinds of things. It's just those are the ones that become the pattern that you recognize. It's really funny because I've watched sports my whole life. I played little league baseball, but poorly, but, but so I was, I was at at the your game on Saturday with the nine and 10 year olds, and Gib was it, give us the coach and, and I'm sitting there, everybody, Connie and I are sitting on a blanket, and we're watching this thing, you know, and, and I because of this CO. Coaching. I'm looking at at these. I'm looking at everything. I can hear everything. I'm listening to you coach, I'm listening to the kids talk to each other. Look at their expressions, you know, the expressions you don't see on major league baseball players because they're so stoked they get hit in the face for the baseball. They're just like, you know. And then I'm hearing the the other, the other coach, you know, who was out of line, talking to his kids, you know? And I'm just, wow, this is really, it is really interesting, because it's like, all of a sudden, I'm in a different paradigm, but it's, it's like, all of the it's it's, it's stripped down where it's all it's all emotional, right? And, and I'm thinking this, it really is a metaphor for learning about about life. I'm not saying that those of you who don't have kids don't show up at the baseball game, because that's you guys. You know there's drive your white van there and show up, you'll be kicked out. But it is, it's, it's, it's a fascinating microcosm of life, because most of it is failure, yeah, and so having little kids in there who understand it, I mean, it's, what's, what a great life lesson. You know, it's, and it's, it's you guys. I mean, it's fun too, because you don't ever let it get out of control. It's not like everybody gets it, gets a trophy. But gets a trophy, but if one team scores five runs in an inning, then that's the end of the inning, right. Or if it's, if it's three outs, right, of course, that's the end of the part of the inning, but, and so it's, it's controlled, but, but watching that and understanding that most of the swings that we take in our life are going to be misses, and you're teaching those kids. And taught me like, hey, I need to swing some more next week. You know, that kind of thing. It's great. One of the things I tell my kids constantly, because at this age, you're absolutely right. Everything is an emotional reaction. Right? Every strikeout is massive, every error, and there are errors every inning from somebody. Every error feels like you're letting your team down. So what we're working on, and again, this is why, this is why I put my kids and youth sports. Is why I invest my time in this place. Because you have to get used to two things. You have to get used to failure. You have to get used to accepting that it's your fault and then also correcting it, and then being prepared for the next one. And I'm always reminding the kids that the best we I asked them, Who you go? Who's your favorite player? Who's the guy that you are? And 90% of the time, it's Mookie, Betts, Shohei, Otani. It's like two of the big Dodgers, you know? And I explained to them that those guys come to the plate, and these are, you know, superstars, massive. They've got brand deals with 1000s of brands. They're making millions and millions of dollars to play this game at the highest level possible. And they are the best at it. And they fail 70% of the time. They feel 70% of the time, and letting the kids understand that they fail, and then they try again, and then they fail, and then they try again, and that leads to their success. That process is why, why we talk that's why we are consistently talking about sports on this program. It's why, you know, it's why i my i have my kids do it. It's why. It's the biggest reason learning to deal with the failure and then mentally prepare for the success. And that is what we are working on, yeah, and it's just, you know, every we can just continue with this metaphor forever. I mean, you're gonna, it's the the task is going to come at you, and then it's, you're gonna, you're gonna reach for it. It's gonna go right between your legs, you know, and, and you're gonna have to, next time, you're gonna have to, you know, bend down a little bit further and keep your eye on the ball. You know, it's, it's just, it's, it's amazing. I'm sure somebody somewhere has written a book on, on what I learned about life from Little League Baseball, you know, Oh, yeah. I mean, look it, there's a reason why I was my daughter's play soccer. And somebody shared in the chat recently about how, in the team chat about how, like, you know, the percentage of kids that will play that will actually get d1 scholarships, that will get, you know, full rides to play soccer, the percentage of athlete of these kids that will go professional. I mean, it's, it's astronomically small numbers. But then they go through the percentage of kids who will succeed in X, Y or Z area, the number of people who were involved in youth sports who go on to lead companies, that go on to go to graduate school, like all of these boxes that are checked and then the percentages are huge. You know, it's like, 60 something percent of CEOs played sports at one point, did youth sports. It's, it's graduate school students. It's like, you know, 40 or 50% just the numbers are, are massive for people that that engage in sports at a young age. Again, it's not about the sports, it's about the lessons that we learn. The other thing that I want you guys to we talked today about mental practice, about doing these exercises. But if you are. On if you are at longevity lab on Thursdays, or if you are have been coming to this for a long time. You know, we talk about a small subset of habits that we want to be doing every day, and one of the ones that that John and I have been talking about all the time is in the actual writing stuff down and asking ourselves these questions and writing it down. Here's a little bit more. I had other videos, but I videos, but we're running out of time, and I want to get to these last two. So here's Joe Dispenza talking about investing in asking yourself the question and then literally writing down the answer to these questions. If you can invest the little time in your life in asking yourself the important question, Who do I want to be in my life. How do I want to live my life? What do I want in my life? Instead of turning on your cell phone getting distracted, discipline yourself to take an hour to answer those questions. Write it down, review it, change it, get very clear on it, and spend a certain amount of time nurturing whatever that dream is. Think of the people in your life that you admire and start behaving differently, start making different choices. Think about the choices that they may make, and how you may want to make those choices. You could either wait for the crisis, the trauma, the diagnosis to change. You know, when you're at your lowest level, you can learn and change in a state of pain and suffering, or you can learn and change in a state of joy and inspiration. Either way, the model is that when you change, your life changes. Yeah. I think one of the big mistakes we make is certainly as younger or if we're brought up the wrong way, or if we're brought up with without delayed gratification, is that we want, we just we people ask, What do you want life? So I just want to be happy and and eventually that's going to be the wrong answer, because it's gonna, it's gonna crater, right? But we've talked many times before, Gib and I about about what, whatever you're, whatever you're pointed at, right? First of all, you need to fall in love with the process first. If you don't have, if you don't have the if you don't have a love, a desire for the for the process, you'll never get there, because some of these goals, they look amazing, but you're like, Lisa, what's the what's the process? You know, am I a do I love practice? Do I love research? Do I love learning? Do I love Do I love, you know, iterating, right, something goes wrong. Do I Do I fall apart? Or do I find another path? You will never be able to change your life. And what, what dispenses talking about there is you'll you will be forced to change your life. Things will happen that will force you to change your life. You might as well change your life on your own terms, right? At least once, at least once. Make this, this decision actively, because it will happen to you, or it can happen with you and for you. And the only way to do that and talk about falling in love with the process, you cannot sail from one point to another if you don't know where you are going, and you cannot know where you are going, if you don't do the exercises that we talked about today, if you say, I want more money, great, but I want more money doesn't mean anything. I mean, I know what that it means. Literally, I know what it means. But my point is, it like it doesn't. That's a nebulous concept. There is no shape to it. There is no form to the idea of I want more money. If you want something, if money is the thing that you that it is, you got to get specific about the amount that you want. And then you've got to go through this process. Are you actively doing it? Because I know people, this hasn't changed. This hasn't changed. Are you spending every day writing out what your goals are, and then when you write out what your goals are, physically write them out, then you begin to see the process that requires to get to get there. And then you can start to write down what are the daily tasks that I have to do. And then you fall in love with doing those daily tasks. You know, there's the old joke I always it's a Mitch Hedberg joke. I want to live around the corner from Carnegie Hall, because when people ask to get to my How to my how to get to my apartment? I could say, practice, practice, practice. Then make a left. So it goes on an even older joke, which is, how do you get to Carnegie Hall? And it's you practice, practice, practice. If you have this big goal of playing Carnegie Hall, I know you know you specifically had this at one point, and you got to do it. The way you get there is to practice, practice. Practice, practice. You. That's the process. You have to do the process. And you can't know what the you can't know what the process should be if you don't know what the goal is. Amen, that's great. I promised you we would end with health habits. I know that that is a priority for a lot of us. We are diving deeper into that on Thursdays with longevity lab, and there will be more stuff like this. Here's Dr Jeremy London. He is a cardiothoracic surgeon that we've heard from before, and he is going to recapitulate four things that I have talked about a lot, that we've talked about on this program, a lot, that are basic habits. And again, what is our theme for 2026 that you are the result of your habits? For. The last six months. So these are these are the hat. These are four habits that will help you get in a health way to the place that you want to be. Healthy Habits that could change your life in 2026 take a 10 to 20 minute walk. After a meal, we started to integrate a 10 to 15 minute walk. We take our dogs out, not fast, not pushing ourselves, just literally a stroll, and within 10 minutes, I could watch my blood sugars drop, set an alarm for the time that you want to go to sleep every night. Why is this important? Well, going to bed at the same time is just as important as waking up at the same time every morning, eliminate alcohol. Now I realize this is likely to be the least popular, but I can tell you on no uncertain terms, removing alcohol has been one of the most transformative decisions I've made in my adult life, and it's like reading a good book or seeing a good movie like I want to share this with you, it has been such a magical change for me. Every day is the same. I am living life untampered one day a week. You need to be doing high intensity aerobic training. If you're walking, walk faster, walk in an incline. If you're running work sprint set. This is all relative. There you go. Things that we've talked about before. Let's get our sleep. Let's walking after every meal, by the way, is is a cheat code in terms of how your body metabolizes the food that you just had. So many of us, we want to sit on the couch right afterwards. It does not have to be an intense not have to be an intense walk, like he mentioned. It's just a light walk with his dogs. Is a cheat code, cutting out the alcohol and then doing a little bit of high intensity exercise once a week. And by the way, except for the alcohol, that's what everybody does in like Italy and all the European countries, yeah, yeah. I mean, those are the keys. Okay, so if you would like to dive deeper into stuff like that, make sure you're signed up for longevity lab on Thursdays. Do you have anything else? Me, I'm good. No, I'm good. I'm just getting ready to watch some more baseball. I love. You know, it's interesting too. Is that, is it little league? It's a great combination, because soccer is really not like this, but it's a great combination of of team and solo effort, right? It's because you always, you're always telling your kids, oh, you need to be in a team sport. Or even, I say to parents, I say, you know, they say, well, instrument should have my kid plays, they play an instrument they could play in the band, because there's, because there's, it's just so great to have, you know, to be able to blend with people like that. But that's, that's the cool thing is, that is, is, you know, creating a life for yourself where, where you can have alone time and create something alone, but also, whether it's a walking book club or or bridge club, or whatever. It's making sure you have that kind of social socialization. But there's the, there's the great feeling of accomplishment when you do something by yourself as well. Yeah, you have to hit the triple, but then you can't get brought home unless somebody else hits a single. That connection, that's, that's life, man, I look you're, you're preaching the choir. If you want to talk about the metaphors that baseball career, that baseball creates for life. All right, folks, for Chrissy and John Tesh, I'm Gib Gerard. I will see you guys next week. That's it for the show today. Thank you guys so much for listening. If you like the show, please rate comment and subscribe on Apple podcast. Spotify wherever you get your podcast. It helps us out a lot when you do that, we also try to respond to every mention the show, every DM about the show, you can tell us what you think about it, because ultimately, we do the show for you guys. So thank you so much for listening. You.