Planning & Beyond® - Where financial planning meets human understanding
Planning & Beyond® is for financial advisors who want to go beyond the numbers and build deeper, more trusted client relationships.
Hosted by Ashley Quamme, a licensed therapist and financial behavior specialist, this podcast helps advisors better understand the psychology, emotions, and behaviors that shape client conversations.
Each episode offers practical strategies you can apply in discovery meetings, prospect conversations, difficult money discussions, and major life transition planning. Through conversations with experts in behavioral finance, financial psychology, and financial therapy, Ashley explores how advisors can strengthen communication, navigate emotional moments, build trust, and support clients with more confidence.
If you want to improve the way you connect with clients, ask better questions, and bring more empathy and clarity into your planning process, Planning & Beyond® will help you sharpen the human side of your advisory work.
Topics include:
- Mastering discovery and prospect meetings
- Navigating difficult money conversations
- Understanding client psychology
- Building trust and deepening client relationships
- Managing emotional client situations
- Improving advisor-client communication
- Applying behavioral finance strategies
- Supporting clients through life transitions
New episodes release weekly. Subscribe for practical conversations on the human side of financial planning.
Learn more at Beyond the Plan.
Planning & Beyond® - Where financial planning meets human understanding
32. How Financial Advisors Can Ask About Client Money History Without Overstepping with Meghaan Lurtz
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When clients seem stuck on financial decisions or react emotionally to planning recommendations, there's often more to the story than what shows up on their balance sheet. In this conversation with Meghaan Lurtz, we explore how financial advisors can ethically and effectively understand their clients' money history without overstepping into therapy territory.
Money history isn't just childhood memories - it's everything that happened before today that shapes how clients think, feel, and behave with money. From bankruptcy ten years ago to generational patterns around financial security, understanding these influences can transform how you craft recommendations and help clients move forward with confidence.
Meg and I break down the crucial timing considerations (spoiler: don’t ask about early money memories in your first discovery meeting), share specific questions that actually work, and explain why asking "tell me about your first job" often reveals more useful information than diving into childhood trauma. We also discuss the critical difference between gathering history and connecting dots - your role is to understand their story, not interpret it for them.
This episode launches our new "How-To" series, focusing on practical implementation strategies you can use in your next client meeting. Whether you're trying to understand why a client can't pull the trigger on a reasonable recommendation or want to build deeper relationships through meaningful conversations, this framework gives you the tools to explore money history safely and effectively.
Key Takeaways:
- Timing Matters More Than Technique: Wait until you've spent 3-10 actual hours with clients before asking about sensitive money history. Build relational equity first through helping them with their immediate planning needs.
- Ask About Empowerment, Not Helplessness: Instead of "What's your earliest money memory?" try "Tell me about your first job" or "When did you start feeling like there was money that was yours to manage?" These questions focus on times when clients had agency rather than when they were powerless.
- Document What Clients Naturally Share: Create headers in your CRM for family dynamics, early adulthood experiences, and financial transitions. Capture the nuggets clients mention organically rather than forcing deep dives into personal history.
- Use History to Inform Planning: If you're going to ask about money history, make sure it shows up in your plan presentations and ongoing conversations. Reference their stories when explaining recommendations to create personalized, meaningful guidance.
Resources and Guest Information:
- Meghaan Lurtz: You can follow on LinkedIn
- Less Lonely Money: Monthly insights on money psychology with advisor resources
- Money History Tool: Email ashley@beyondthefp.com with "Money History Tool" in subject line for the Family Financial Pattern Matrix
Connect with Host Ashley Quamme:
- Podcast Website: Planning & Beyond
- LinkedIn: Ashley Quamme - Licensed Therapist & Financial Behavior Specialist
- Beyond the Plan®: Financial psychology integration for advisory practices
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