On Self Care - Ft Toni Tilson-Jones w, Brayden and Sophia.

Toni Tilson-Jones the Executive director of Youville Clinic join Brayden and Sophia in a fun chat about self care. The youth tell us  what it means and how they practice self care. 

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Ezra 0:00

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Omar 1:07

Hello everybody, welcome back to another episode of Let's Listen. If you're a first time listener, thank you for joining us. If you're a regular listener, thank you for staying with us. We're going to join our youth this day with a little help from some folks who like to listen, try to destigmatize mental illness. Today, our youth, Sophia and Brayden, are joined by Toni Tilson Jones. Toni is the Executive Director of Youville Clinic. An advocate, an activist, and a master of social work, who's fiercely passionate about social justice and anti oppressive perspectives. Today, Sophia and Brayden are going to chat with Toni about self care. Self care to me means taking the time to do the things that support and improve your physical and mental health. What does self care mean to you? Let's listen to what these people have to say

Toni 1:55

We're going out. Alright. Right, Omar? Okay. Alright. Omar, we're coming for

Brayden 2:02

you.

Toni 2:03

Do we need to introduce ourselves? Yeah. Hey folks. Thanks for listening. I'm Toni. I'm here with Brayden and Sophia. Hello. And today we're talking about self care and why it's important. And so that's where we're gonna start. So, I don't know who wants to go first, but Sophia, okay,

Sophia 2:21

what is self

Toni 2:22

care?

Sophia 2:23

Well for me, I think it is like doing things that you like that's like beneficial to you. Things that like Makes you feel better.

Brayden 2:32

Brayden? Hi, um, what was the question

Sophia 2:36

again?

Toni 2:36

What's self care

Brayden 2:37

to you? Self care to me is taking time for yourself to calm down, especially if you're stressed or in a situation that you don't really like. See, um, situations that I don't really like, I like to have my alone time after.

2:52

Like,

Brayden 2:53

in social settings, I don't like it a lot and I just go home and I lay in my bed. And I just reset, in a way.

Toni 3:01

So that's one way of, um, practicing self care. Taking some space. Yeah. Uh, resetting. Heard you say that. That's important.

Brayden 3:08

Recharging your social battery.

Toni 3:10

Yep.

Brayden 3:10

Are you

Toni 3:10

An introvert? A

Brayden 3:11

little bit. Yeah. I like to stay home and play video games. Yeah.

Toni 3:14

Sophia, are you an introvert or an extrovert? Um,

Sophia 3:16

I'm an introvert. I did the test, actually. I'm a little bit of

3:19

both,

Sophia 3:20

like, right in the middle, but sometimes, like, it really depends who I'm with, I

Toni 3:24

think. Yeah. Yeah. So sometimes when you're a bit more introverted, right, sometimes you need that reset, that quiet, so that is a good, good way to practice self care. So, Brayden, you mentioned, like, it's, it's something that you do when you're kind of, like, stressed. Um, Do you folks do anything around self care that's, like, preventative from getting you stressed? So you do it before you're stressed, or you do it to kind of reset before you feel drained?

Brayden 3:47

Well, I mean, I use my coping mechanisms to do it sometimes, but it does still count as, like, kind of leaving the group a little bit for a little bit. See, I I smoke cigarettes, that's my thing, um, that I use to calm down, and I just walk away, I go outside in a public space, and I just light up one, and I'm fine after, usually fine, maybe another one, depending. My mom, she calls me a chain smoker half the time.

Toni 4:16

Right. Parents would be concerned about that, right? Your health? Yeah. Uh, anything else you do, like, besides smoking?

Brayden 4:23

Does being outside help? Well, walking in nature sometimes helps. It's just, depends on how I'm feeling. Because sometimes I just want to be inside of the house. And not just around everybody where I can easily be seen. I don't, I don't really like being seen in social events. So I kind of like hide away, scurry under a staircase in my school. Or I hide in a classroom. Or I hide, you'll probably see me wandering the halls. But in more of a skittish way. See, I I skipped a lot because I didn't like classrooms. They were too, too many people.

Toni 4:57

Yeah. So part of your, like, ability to take care of yourself is, is, it sounds like movement, like you're walking, you're, you're gotta create that space. Sophia, how about for you, like, is there things that you do on a regular basis to kind of keep you in balance?

Sophia 5:13

I think for me, uh, to prevent me getting stressed, I'm like a list person because I get stressed with like things going on in my day. So I need to make a list for like everything and I like to add every little thing because then I can check it off.

5:26

Yep.

Sophia 5:26

So, if I'm stressed, I like to like, And stay inside as well and alone. I like to like grab a book And read because if I go on my phone, I feel like i'm like just wasting my free time But I also I have a like i'm always on my phone, right? That's so that's why I like when I get out of it because I feel like that just makes me more stress Right,

Toni 5:48

is that easy for you to do put your phone away? No, not really. No, not

Sophia 5:52

really I don't know. I feel like I just like it feels like it's a break break on my brain But like at the same time it's not

6:01

right All right

Toni 6:04

Braden, how about you? Like, do you have a phone? Use

Brayden 6:07

technology? I mean, usually I give myself about like an hour to a day off the phone. Okay. I'm able to kind of control it. But I, I let my friends know, hey, I won't be answering for the next hour or two. Like, I just need me time. And I'll watch a movie, I'll watch YouTube, or I'll play video games just by myself, having a fun time. Sometimes the video games get me too stressed. I have a rager. But usually I just watch like a movie or something and then I said, Hey guys, I'm back.

Toni 6:34

Yeah, which is great because I think sometimes it's really hard to detach from these phones, right? And they're, they're always there. There's always something on it. And so I think they can be tools to help us with self care, but also they can be the reason that we need to practice self care by doing other things. So you listed movies, right? You, you also told your friends, Hey, I'm going to be, I'm going to be off this thing for a while. So don't.

Brayden 6:54

Don't panic.

Toni 6:55

Don't panic. I didn't

Brayden 6:57

die.

Toni 6:57

Yeah, yeah. Which is important, right? That communication with folks, because I think we're also in a, in a place, in a society where

Brayden 7:04

You can't just go over to someone's house and people think they

Toni 7:06

can get, get a hold of you whenever, and if you don't answer right away, it's like, what's going

7:10

on?

Brayden 7:10

Yeah, like back in the day, you had to go to your friend's house. Hey, you want to come out? No, sorry. And then you have to walk in and out again. Write a

7:16

letter.

Toni 7:16

Yeah.

Brayden 7:17

Hey, you want to hang out next week? Send a pigeon. Sends

Toni 7:19

the weed. Yeah. You also talked about like being out in nature. Is that

Sophia 7:25

something that,

Toni 7:26

that either of you do on a regular basis?

Sophia 7:28

I do like to be outside. I like to be in the backyard. But, I don't do it that much. Like, I like to be outside when I'm camping. Or when I'm doing something fun, like I'm gonna go swimming, I'm gonna be around a fire, or something.

Brayden 7:42

I mean, personally, for me, it's just It's a music thing, but also it's not, because sometimes I like to, I could be very descriptive about it, but I like to hear the thumping of my own feet sometimes. Like, when walking in a hall, I'll have my headphones on, but I'm not listening to music, because it helps me keen into more of my body and not all the sounds, because I tend to look, in a lot of places, colors. Colors distract me like sometimes you'll see me like stare out the window a lot I was staring outside the window while you were here, and I was like what's all this out there I feel my friends in a joking way They call me autistic or like they have I have ADHD in a joking way because of how I react to like sounds and Pictures and all this around me because for me to properly do schoolwork, I need to be in a rubber room, a white rubber room.

Toni 8:32

Yeah. I mean, everybody's different, right? Everybody's brain is different. And so I, I think like what you just talked about, like listening to the sound of your feet, looking around at colors, those are all grounding techniques, like in the world of counseling, those are grounding techniques and they're used right. As, as a self care mechanism also to like reduce anxiety. So it sounds like you're practicing those things without calling it that. Um, but it like, it. It keeps you present in the moment, and so your mind can't really race and, and kind of get ahead of yourself, so that's, that's super cool that you do that, and you didn't really know that it was actually out there. It is. Well, you know,

Brayden 9:06

the thing with it is I like to enjoy Simple sounds not just like the hard bass of like a rock song or like a rap song or all this sometimes I like to just keen into Softer kind of songs more left not like a lullaby But like some sort of soothing songs or sometimes I'll put on like in the background and fall asleep because I have a hard time Falling asleep, it's pretty Part of me, because I, uh, grew up a very bad insomniac. I had to take melatonin for it for a while, and then it stopped working. So I'm usually up till 3 in the morning, 4 and only getting like 2 hours of sleep. Uh, but usually if I want to fall asleep early, I just listen to rain, it helps me calm down, but like, in some cases I'm way too hyper or like I have too much sugar in my system and I need some way to burn it, so sometimes just to calm down I go on nightly walks, but with the area I live in, I walk out that door, my shoes, my pants, everything, it's gone. I will be mugged. Ah.

Sophia 10:06

I can say that, right?

Brayden 10:07

Omar, can I say stuff like

Sophia 10:08

that? No, yeah, I would never go online legally.

Toni 10:13

I'm way too

Sophia 10:14

scared.

Brayden 10:15

It's just Winnipeg for you.

Toni 10:16

So you talked about music. You talked about sleep. So, how do things like sleep play into self care?

Brayden 10:25

But it helps you rest your brain in a way like it lets you reset like some people like taking naps during the day or Having little rest periods, but they just shut their eyes. Yeah, I mean, I know my dad did that a lot He he he never really was Present in the moment. He wasn't self loved in a way because he the way he grew up, but he's not in my life anymore But, in a way, sleeping is just, it's just a way to calm your brain, heal your brain for a few hours, or like eight hours, depending on how long you could sleep, because some of us, we can only sleep a few hours, some of us, we could sleep a whole 13 hours. Yeah. It just depends on your mind state.

11:05

Yeah.

Brayden 11:05

Like, nowadays, like, I'll be up late, late, late night, and then I'll sleep for 12 hours during the day, and I'll be like 12 again when I wake up. I'm like, man, I really need to get my shit together. Had a little hesitation there saying that. Omar's gonna bleep it. It's

Toni 11:21

fine. Sophia, what about you for sleep? Like is that something you find that's important for you, your wellness? For

Sophia 11:26

sure, 100%. I think I need to have like a good rest, like a good night of sleep for me to have a good day. Yeah. And sometimes, like lately with like Exams

11:38

and

Sophia 11:39

things like that at school. I'm being really stressed and I'm not doing any of like the self care things I like like I'm like instead of like going to like read or outside. I'm just like on my phone

11:48

Mm hmm

Sophia 11:49

in the free time I have and then I night I'm just like stressing over and over about like exams Yeah.

Toni 11:57

What's coming up.

Sophia 11:58

Yeah. Right? And then, like, I find that, like, I can't, like, I fall asleep. I don't, sometimes I don't feel as rested because I'm like, my brain's like going, going, going. And then, like, I open my eyes and, like, it's the next day. Mm hmm. Like, I just fall asleep.

Toni 12:10

Yeah. So what do you think would be, like, if you had a recommendation for folks around your age, for how many hours of sleep do you think you should be getting?

Brayden 12:20

Well, maybe a solid good eight hours. Yeah,

Toni 12:22

at least eight hours. And what, what do you, how, what percentage of folks your age do you think get about eight hours?

Brayden 12:28

Not a lot, probably. Like, I have a lot of my friends, they stay up with me because I make them.

12:33

I force them

Brayden 12:34

to stay

12:34

up

Brayden 12:35

with me. Yeah.

12:35

You're the problem. Yeah, I am the problem.

Brayden 12:38

I am the problem, guys.

Toni 12:40

You're the problem. So, but that also does talk about, uh, leads us to maybe talk about boundaries. Sometimes, right, it's very hard for, for anyone, individuals to say no to people, especially probably at your folks age where your friends are like really important and there's lots of like social pressure. I'm assuming I haven't been a teenager for a really long time, but, um, So self care often means like we have to say no to other people and sometimes ourselves, right? We got to say no to ourselves, put our phone down, do whatever, but oftentimes that's really hard.

13:14

Yeah.

Toni 13:14

How do you folks find that? Like being able to set those boundaries and how do people respond to that? Uh

13:22

You go. Well, um You need to think a little harder. Yeah, let's

Brayden 13:26

just think a little bit. But personally for me, saying no to people my whole life has been really hard, especially with the way I grew up. Because I always was like, my parents servant, like, I was the oldest, I had to take care of my siblings, this, that, that, you know? So I have a hard time saying no to a lot of people, like, everything. Saying no, and yes, can be like, a different, well it's obvious, it's obviously a different thing. But I have a hard time saying no to people especially back when I was 13 I that's the year that I started smoking because my friends were like put this in your mouth light it do this do this do This and like I I have bad nicotine addictions to this day. I'm sort of addicted to pot like I Drink like it's not I don't live a very good life, but it's it's Gotten me here. I'm well and alive at 15 years old.

14:16

Mm hmm.

Brayden 14:17

But saying no has gotten me down a lot of bad paths that I had a bad past with my mom, I had a bad past, I still have a bad past with my dad, like it's still ongoing, like he doesn't give a shit about me.

14:26

Mm hmm.

Brayden 14:28

Everything in my life that I've done, all the paths that I've taken, are not the best. So saying no, It's a hard thing for me because my friends are like, Hey, do you want to hit this? Do you want to have a smoke? Do you want, do you want to drink this time? Like I say, sure, yeah, sure. Like, like, I mean, it's a, it's a part of my system, drinking, smoking, all this. It's a part of my system. So now I say yes, because I want to, and not that I want to say no, because I'm sort of addicted to it.

Toni 14:57

But you kind of got there because you, it was hard to say no. And so what makes it hard? Yeah.

Brayden 15:04

I feel like it's the fear of disappointing somebody. Because my life, I live it in a, I wellow in my own pity for what I did for myself. Like I used to do all this stuff, party every weekend. It was a, I can't complain. The only thing I can complain about is my addictions. That was last podcast or whatever. Different

Toni 15:26

podcast, but yeah, I mean, we, people, people do use like nicotine, caffeine, alcohol, marijuana, like some people do use those as, as self care, right? And so it's, you know, it's like not to judge people for that, but it's also like, how do we balance that? How do we balance that from a, like, we call it a harm reduction approach, right? How do you do, how do you do those things safely or how do you do them so they have less of an impact on your wellbeing? And it sounds like you. You have good awareness of those things and when you use those things for self care. And it's like having a bunch of tools in your toolbox, right? I mean, already we've talked about different things, sleep, walking, like making lists. So you can go from, you can go from like, what do you need to cope like mentally to kind of like brain dump, right? What do you have to do spiritually? What do you have to do emotionally? What do you do physically? Because that's That's who we are, right? There's, there's all those dimensions to us as humans. So, what else? Did you think about the, the last question? You got an answer for that one? Yeah, I think,

Sophia 16:24

like, socially it is really hard to say no. I think, part, like, for me, is because I was always, I've always been, like, this, like, kid that's, like, does everything for, like, the parents or the older people. Like, they always, like, you know, expect a lot of me.

16:40

Mm hmm.

Sophia 16:41

And then, I think I need to like, show that to them. Like, I relate to you, like, you're the oldest and you have to take care of your siblings, like, I have to do that too. I have a little brother. And, I feel like it's hard saying no to my parents because like, they don't have another option, right? Like, if it's me, or like, I have to pick him up every day, like, because they don't have someone, anyone else to do it. I mean,

Brayden 17:03

I've been around people that are also like that, but like, Per se, my ex. Like, she had to take care of everybody. She was barely even seeing me. Like, and things, obviously, she's my ex for reasons, but I'm not gonna go off on that.

17:16

It's a long podcast. Next podcast, we'll talk about exes. We'll talk

Brayden 17:20

about manipulative exes. Oh

17:21

boy.

Brayden 17:22

Alright. Um, but like, taking care of your siblings can be a lot on you, but then also, It could be helpful, but because like, for her siblings, my ex, she loves her siblings, her siblings love her. For my siblings, we all have tension in the house, but I still have to cook for them. My sister, she's like, I'm not gonna eat what you're gonna eat. But then five hours, three hours later, she's like, can you make me some? My brother, he's just, he's old enough to fend for himself. He's like 14 years old. He's fine.

Toni 17:53

And do you say that to him? You're like, you know what? You're old enough. You can cook. They're saying no, that's a boundary, right?

Brayden 17:57

Yeah. Like he needs to. Learned to cook for himself because I had to learn my own way like I like back when I was 12 I barely knew how to cook eggs. And now I can make some pretty decent eggs. I can make a pretty decent bowl of cereal, too

Toni 18:13

Pour some mean milk. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so Saying no is hard, right? Because you don't, I heard, you don't want to disappoint people. You kind of feel, like, obligated because people do stuff for you. So, and then sometimes it's just part of, like, life where we kind of have these responsibilities that we have to do. And so you have to kind of, like, pick and choose when you're going to say no. Because self care really is about focusing.

18:39

It's like,

Toni 18:39

we have to be the me, like it's gonna, it's me time, right? And so, uh, when you got lots going on, you have competing priorities, it's hard. And so, you know, any advice for anybody? Like how to, how to say no when you, when you know, like you need to say no here because otherwise, It's gonna drain you.

Sophia 19:02

I think if it's something that, like, you want to do for somebody, but, like, you can't right now, you can always postpone it and, like, tell them about it. Like,

Toni 19:09

I

Sophia 19:09

can't help you right now, but if you need me, like, in two days after I'm done this test, I can help you. Oh, yeah.

Toni 19:15

That's a really good strategy. Yeah.

Brayden 19:17

I mean, like, saying no for me, it's a hard thing still. Because I'm still, like, in a way, I'm still suffering from having to say yes all the time. Yeah. Because, exes. Um, but for say, like, if somebody were to come up to me and be like, Hey, do you want to take a cigarette? My best advice to somebody like that. Personally, I would take it, but, um, if somebody didn't want to do it, I'd say no, like, I don't want to do that, it's a bad habit, I should not start it, and it's something I should probably never do, like, it's just trying to not sound so, like, especially if they're a friend, you don't want to sound mean,

19:59

but

Brayden 19:59

you don't want to do it, it's like, You just gotta say it in a kinder way, like, No, no, like, it's not my thing. Like, and you could even, like, I'm not saying lie to your friends, but you could say, like, no, I've had one before, it's nasty, I don't like it. Like, sometimes lying, like a little white lie, Sure. Sometimes needed, but you know, uh, don't don't lie to your friends guys. They'll find out

Toni 20:27

Yeah, and I think it I mean I think we I don't know did they still teach that in school They used to call them like refusal strategies when you do like health and it's like hey This is how you can say no when someone offers you a cigarette

Sophia 20:36

Okay,

Toni 20:38

I've never

Brayden 20:41

had those talks the only school thing that I remember is the little house hippo You know the little house hippo that like walks around in your home. No, it's like it's like it's it's an ad thing That's like manipulative. It's it's a minute manipulative ad like oh, there's hippos that come in your house at night It was my childhood I grew up on those ads and then we have to rate them on how like There's like cigarette ads, there's nicotine ads, there was vaping ads, there was the hippo ad. Hippo ad was my favorite, I always, the class always laughed at it. But, it's the things that you gotta think about. In a way, to really postpone yourself and take, you gotta take a really quick second to really analyze the question, do your best judgment. Like, if you say no to something that you want to do, that, then you shut the door and you won't, probably won't be able to do it again. But if you say yes to it, that's a good thing. But saying no to things that you don't want to, or saying yes to things that you do want to do, Hard. A lot of things in my past I had to say yes to that I didn't want to do or I wanted to save or I wanted to do this. I wanted to do that. It's I've always had to either say no or yes. And it's it's it's just life is a game of yes or no. No, it's like you could. Anything you say when answering a question is either a yes or a no.

Toni 22:08

Or it's yeah, but not now.

Brayden 22:10

Yeah.

Toni 22:10

Maybe no, but maybe later. Like, give me some time to think about it. Yeah. But. I have some other advice. Yeah? You do? Good.

Sophia 22:16

Sorry. Didn't Oh, if you, if you feel pressured by like your friends or something and they make you feel bad for like, you're not doing this and they're not worth your time.

Toni 22:31

It's just basic manipulation. It's

Sophia 22:33

like

Toni 22:34

respecting, like, respecting you. It's

Sophia 22:36

okay to say no. And if people don't accept it, then they need to grow up a little bit.

Toni 22:42

Which is also super hard, right? I think like, I'm, I'm almost 48 and it's still hard to say no to certain people. And you still feel, I still sometimes feel like, what is it? Maybe guilt? Like I feel guilty, right? That I'm like saying no, but it means I have to, but it means I'm saying yes to me, which is also important, right? Because if I keep saying yes to everybody else, my batteries are going to be super drained. And then I'm probably not going to be really nice, very fun to be around. You know what I mean? So, and then you start to think maybe you get resentful and stuff like that. But so we talked about like weird things that happened in school, like the hippo thing. I don't know. I'm sorry about that. I don't even know what that is, but that's. Do do we learn about self care in school? I don't think I've ever have Where do we learn self care from them?

Brayden 23:34

We're gonna learn from ourselves in a way.

Toni 23:36

Yeah, cuz

Brayden 23:37

I learned it from myself I learned well, I also my counselor helped me a lot and my therapist Yeah, yeah, they'll teach you that but sometimes it's a self discovery journey. Mm hmm, like if Like, oh my god, I just discovered I could do this. Oh my god, I couldn't do this before. Or this feels good, right? Like, just

Toni 23:56

being outside or being quiet or listening to your footsteps, you're like, oh.

Brayden 23:59

It's a self discovery thing.

Sophia 24:00

And self care is very personal. Like, everyone has different journeys, different things they do.

Brayden 24:07

Yeah, like some of us speak. Do bad things to feel good. Like, like last podcast addiction. I wasn't there for that one. So I can't be a part of

Toni 24:18

it.

Brayden 24:19

Did you listen to it though? No.

Toni 24:21

Oh, Omar. Did you hear that?

Brayden 24:22

Omar.

Toni 24:24

I don't support it. He hasn't edited it yet. I don't think.

Brayden 24:28

Guys, I love her a lot.

Toni 24:29

Okay. So what, so friends, we talked about friends, right? We talked about sometimes friends keep us. self care, but can friends be part of your self care? Oh, yeah,

Sophia 24:42

for sure. Okay, so tell

Toni 24:43

me about that. I

Sophia 24:43

think Go ahead. It's okay. I think part of my self care is also spending time with people that I like. Spending time with my family, but sometimes they're a little, like, too much. Especially if I'm, like, doing a bunch of things. Yeah, if we're, like, doing too much and my family's, like, pretty loud.

25:02

Like,

Sophia 25:02

sometimes I need my alone time. I love hanging out with them. Hang out with my friends, just doing things that we like. I like to just, like, hang out. I don't really like, well, I do like to, like, go bowling and things like that, but sometimes I just like to, like, do you want to, like, lay down and play video games? Yeah. Or do you want to, like,

Toni 25:23

just hang out? Like, just hang out and

Sophia 25:25

talk?

Brayden 25:27

Yeah. Uh oh. That's gonna cause some bad mic issues. I know,

Toni 25:29

I just hit the mic,

Brayden 25:30

sorry.

Toni 25:31

Brayden, what about you? Like, for friends, like, how is that self care?

Brayden 25:36

I mean, it really depends on my friends. Like, I have this one friend named Em. I love talking to her all the time. I love, like, and, like, we're just good friends. Like, I enjoy talking to her. She's, like, we're both therapists for each other. She lets me talk to her. She, uh, she talks to me sometimes. Mostly it's me kind of talking to her because I have my own problems. But I also let her talk to me if she ever needs. I'm somewhat I try to be as supportive as I can to my friends, but if it's like a decision that I think was bad for them, I like to be kind of the parent, the little helicopter parent. I'm like, Em, you shouldn't have done that, Em, you're, Em, all this, this. And like, it's doing it with other friends. Like, my friends, they say I give great advice, and they never take it. Like, I have my friend, Peyton. I give her advice about a guy. She's like, Oh, this guy, this guy, complains to me about it after. I'm like, Peyton, I told you.

Sophia 26:29

You did your part. That's

Brayden 26:30

right. I tried my part, but, I don't know.

Toni 26:33

Yeah, so hanging out, like, I heard you said bowling, things like that, right? So it's like two types. You go with your friends, it's like, sometimes it's just like laughing, chatting with your friends, like talking about nothing, but then like moving your body, bowling is moving your body, right? It's not like You could break out in a sweat if you're a serious bowler, but it's like, you know, just moving and it's fun, it's like entertainment, it's recreation, you get to do it with people that you like. That's a whole, it's a whole whack load of self care,

Brayden 27:03

right? Yeah, no, talking about moving, I feel like I could really go for a walk right now.

Toni 27:08

What? You're cramped in a tiny little podcast booth. Yeah,

Brayden 27:11

it's not fun at all. I don't, I don't like this. It's very

Toni 27:15

fun for anyone.

Brayden 27:17

We love it here, Omar. He's going to have to cut out

Toni 27:20

so much of it. What about reading? You both mentioned books.

Brayden 27:24

I mean, I actually out there, I have a book with me right now that I was reading. I got here with you guys. I'm so

Sophia 27:31

sorry.

Brayden 27:32

No, it's fine. I had to wait for Omar, Omar, for about an hour and a half. Like, I like, I was reading the whole time. I read about half a book in the time it took me. And then I somehow got a library card.

Toni 27:46

See, now you've got books, endless books to choose from. Sophia, reading?

Sophia 27:50

I, yeah, I love reading. I was doing it, like, a couple months ago before all the exams and all the things got crazy. I was like, I was setting a pretty good routine for myself. I was reading before bed every night instead of being on my phone. Trying to read, like, at least 30 minutes. Going to bed early. It was working really well, and then Just all spiraled You got, you got busy and you have to

Toni 28:13

read all sorts of stuff now for fun, right? Yeah. When you're studying. So, uh, what do you think reading does for you? Like you said before bed, what is it?

Sophia 28:20

It's very, it's like an, like an escape really. Okay. Like, you can, for me, I don't really like imagine myself in the books, but I kind of, I like reading about it. I love like knowing about Mm-Hmm. and other things. What

Toni 28:32

kind of books do you read? Like fiction, nonfiction, books?

Sophia 28:36

I read a little bit of both. Like really anything, not really like fantasy.

Brayden 28:41

No. I kinda, I kinda like graphic novels. Those are my thing. I like

Sophia 28:45

graphic

28:46

novels.

Brayden 28:46

They're my thing. I have a hard time reading. Yep. So, graphic novels are my kind of thing. Yeah. I leave it short. It's a little story that I get to read. Yeah. I love the long graphic novels because it takes me hours to read them, but then my mind feels refreshed. I'm not overthinking the whole time. Because I gotta, I gotta think about the words while you're reading them because you can't just say, Oh, do do do do do do, out loud, right? Yeah. Because it sounds a little weird. So you think about it. And everything that you think about is really something that stops your mind from overthinking. I don't know.

Toni 29:17

Yeah. No, that makes sense. What about Go ahead. No, go.

Sophia 29:21

Do you guys picture when you're reading? Like, can you picture it in your head? Or are you just, like, reading blank? Because some people can't.

Brayden 29:28

I mean, I don't really read novels that don't include pictures, so I already know what to imagine.

Sophia 29:33

Mm hmm.

Brayden 29:33

I mean What do you do?

Sophia 29:35

I can see it in my head. Yeah. Like, I kind of have, like, a little story going on. And, like, it's kind of like a movie.

Toni 29:40

Mm

Sophia 29:40

hmm.

Toni 29:40

Yeah, for me, it depends. Like, I There's certain authors The way that they write, it's very descriptive, so I can, that this naturally happens, right? And the way that they're, they're writing, I like that. And then sometimes I'll read books where I'm like, I don't, I can't see this. Yeah. So, and then I'm less interested in those ones, but yeah, it, I think reading for me too. Like I tried to start reading before bed, put the phone away because I think then I just have a better sleep. Like it calms and it kind of settles my brain. I used to read a ton of. So I would read kind of like heavier, real life kind of stuff. And then it would just make my brain think more. So I was like, okay, I'm not doing that anymore before bed. So fiction is kind of now what I try to read. Yeah. Which is interesting.

Brayden 30:25

I mean, guys, I like Robert Munch here. Yes! Robert Munch is amazing. Yeah. Remember Robert

Sophia 30:30

Munch?

Brayden 30:32

You know Robert Munch?

Sophia 30:33

Probably not. Robert Munch is classic. He's an author. What books?

Brayden 30:39

He makes little children's

Toni 30:40

books.

Brayden 30:41

Yeah.

Toni 30:42

Children's

Brayden 30:42

books. Yeah. Like, when I was a kid. Yeah. I love, I have Robert Munch books in my house. I read them. What do you like about it? I just love how silly they are. They make me laugh. Yeah. Like, I may, I, I, guys, I understand they're children books and they still make me

Toni 30:56

laugh. That's great.

Brayden 30:58

Also self care. Yeah. I mean, I like kind of experiencing. What reading was like at a child again, I mean guys trust I don't read at a grade three level, but

Toni 31:07

No judgment. No judgment

Brayden 31:10

I mean, I just kind of like robert munch books or graphic novels because They let me in picture something or if it's like a dramatic book Graphic novel. I kind of like dramatic books or sometimes guys. I know it sounds a little weird I like romance novels. Oh, I

Toni 31:25

love romance novels. Oh, you do! Look, we're on to something here. Why do we like romance novels? It's

Sophia 31:31

just so cute. I like, I like reading sad books and like heavy books But sometimes I like need a break like my life is hard enough. Sometimes I want to read about I just like dream about something.

31:41

It is fun. It's fantasy in a different way. So yeah.

Brayden 31:44

I mean like some books you can also relate to because like, like romance novels, sometimes they have the things in there that you want to have or sometimes the things that you don't want to have and give you experience on like, Oh, I don't want this. It sounds icky or it sounds, it sounds bad. I don't like this. I don't want this in my life. Or I want this. I want this. Why can't this be me? Yeah. But like most romance novels that I kind of read, they're more or less like, you know, Really kind of lovey, like that's kind of what I pursue. Like it's, it's just a book, man, but I relate to it so much. Yeah. Love is like Love is a fun thing. It's so

Toni 32:21

important. It's fun. You know. It's

Sophia 32:23

nice to read about, it's nice to see and live. Yeah, and

Toni 32:26

sometimes you like our, we, our world doesn't always have tons of love all the time, right? So it's like important to have that balance where if you're having a hard time, why not? Like here's a, here's a good romance novel, good love story. What about like movies? You like rom coms? I'm not too, I'm not too, I'm not too,

Brayden 32:43

I'm not too fine, fond of like the romance movies. I love

32:47

rom coms.

Brayden 32:49

They're an iffy for me, personally, because like, I don't like seeing it, but I like imagining it. Ah,

Toni 32:55

yes. You don't like somebody telling you what it's going to look like,

Brayden 32:59

right? I

Toni 33:00

want to imagine

Brayden 33:00

it by myself, and not have Fair. I don't need to hear that Romeo wants to kiss Juliet on the screen. Like, I don't want to see that. I

Sophia 33:11

think comedy is probably one of my favorites.

Brayden 33:14

Oh, comedy movies?

Sophia 33:15

Because they're just so silly. And it's just like, there's something, like grown ups. I love grown ups. It's just like, what, like what is this? Wait, wait,

Brayden 33:22

the movie

Sophia 33:22

grown ups? Yeah. That movie's so good. It's so good. All of them. Oh. Apparently they're coming out with a new one.

Brayden 33:27

I want to see that really badly. But I don't

Sophia 33:29

know if that's true actually.

Brayden 33:30

You know, I thought, I thought on Tik Toks. I don't even know. I mean, it's

Toni 33:35

true. It's true. Yeah, movies, right? Laughing, like being able to kind of get out of like the everyday, because there's so much stress in that, right? Those are really great suggestions for self care. You folks do a lot. I'm surprised. When you came in here, you're like, I don't know what to talk about self care, but I do it all the time Oh, you've been thinking about it?

Brayden 33:59

I mean, it's more of a comfortability act because like I bet we're all pretty kind of comfortable here We're all chit chat and we're being very open about like things we like things we do but it's kind of part of the act You got to be open with everybody whether you like it or not in a podcast or in a radio You know, I compared her to Peggy

Toni 34:18

I don't know what that means,

Brayden 34:19

but okay. No, like, like the radio host, Peggy, I don't know. She used to play like pop songs on the radio. Sure. Let's do some pop.

Toni 34:27

Non stop pop!

Sophia 34:28

Karaoke.

Toni 34:30

Potential self care activity.

Sophia 34:33

I, I like comedies, but I think when I'm sad, I like to watch sad movies. Hmm. It makes me feel, it gives me comfort. I don't know.

Toni 34:40

Yeah.

Sophia 34:41

Just like crying to a movie. Yeah.

Toni 34:43

Well, tears are healing, right? Like, I know that's, sometimes that's just like, have a good cry. I cry at commercials sometimes. Commercials? Yeah, sometimes. Oh, like, the sad dog ones? Sad dog ones. No, I don't watch those, but yeah. Crying, right? Like, anybody ever, like, yell, scream, do any of those things to, like, release energy?

Brayden 35:04

I mean, when I was younger Like, not at people? I mean, back when I was younger I like to be destructive, you know?

Toni 35:13

Yeah?

Brayden 35:13

Yeah, I have multiple stories that I could talk about, but this is enough for this podcast.

Toni 35:17

Well, they have some of the, like, I don't think we have them here, but there's places, what are they called? Break rooms? Yeah. Where you go in and you put, like, safety gear on and you go break dishes and stuff like that, and Yeah. I mean, that's, that's something. It's like releasing of energy. How do we do that? And sometimes that's very physical. Sometimes that's why people do sports, or run, or do you folks do anything like that, physical?

Brayden 35:40

I mean, guys, like, let's not talk about my room being a rec room. I used to really do a lot of stuff in there, but personally, like, I don't really do sports though. No. Sports aren't really my thing. Video games, I like to. Yeah. That's gonna come off really bad. No one's gonna have to cut it off. Never mind. I was gonna say I like the Oh. But, like, like KK. Like, not in like a Jeffrey Dahmer kind of way. Right, right. But like When you're mad at somebody, you have sort of a feeling like, I don't like this person. Sometimes I like to go into a game and kind of re relieve, re leviate that, you know? I'm gonna get Omer to cut that out.

Toni 36:20

Like release that energy, right? And it's in a safe space. It's not real. It's make believe. It's kind of like reading in a different, in a different way. It's a different kind of energy.

Brayden 36:29

I mean, there's a lot of those theories that say, video games cause violence. Sure. And I

Toni 36:36

think everybody's different. Yeah. And I think there's probably more going on than just someone playing a video game, right? If they become

Brayden 36:43

violent. There's something psychologically wrong.

Sophia 36:46

Potentially. I don't play any sports. No? Well, like, I don't like to play sports at my school because I feel like they're too competitive. And I am a competitive person, but I feel like I don't like when other people are competitive.

Brayden 36:58

Yeah, different. You're not allowed to be competitive, only I am. Yeah,

Sophia 37:01

I think if I had, like, more time, maybe in the summer I could, I would join, like, rec kind of sports, but I don't really like. But I joined my dragon boat team at school. That's fun. And it was so fun. Yeah, we competed last weekend, but then they had to cut us short.

Brayden 37:18

Oh, right. Wasn't that the thing because of Someone

Sophia 37:20

flipped.

Brayden 37:21

Someone flipped? I almost

Sophia 37:22

flipped. You almost flipped? I almost flipped. Oh, so? Yeah. In the Red River? Oh, what Gross.

Brayden 37:28

I think I was there during that. I don't know. Were you there? I don't know. Probably. It was

Sophia 37:32

on Saturday. Last Saturday.

Brayden 37:35

Maybe. I might have been sleeping. Either or.

Toni 37:37

What about like, uh, I don't know. Concerts, like movies, do you watch movies at home? Do you go out to watch movies? Like, what, is there a balance there?

Brayden 37:47

I mean, I've never been to an actual concert, but I'd love to. Like, they sound fun. Like, partying is just fun.

Toni 37:55

Sometimes that entertainment aspect, yuck, is an important part of self care. Like, letting loose, like, safely, everybody. Don't

Brayden 38:04

beat

Toni 38:04

anybody. But music, also very important for a lot of folks, particularly guys, like, Use your age often we all have I still like yeah music Well, y'all walk or do you walk around with your airpods in or your headphones? You've had you have them out there Hey, she saw me I was wearing them the whole time

Sophia 38:22

Yeah, I like to listen to it's cool because then I can tune out the people I also like to listen to music while I read

Toni 38:28

It really works for

Sophia 38:30

me. It helps

Toni 38:30

you focus. It

Sophia 38:31

does. I don't know. I don't know Yeah, it's kind of like, you know when you watch a movie and there's like background music. That's how I kind of feel

Toni 38:38

interesting Brayden, do you use, like, music as, like, to help you focus or help you, like,

Brayden 38:45

stay calmer? I don't really use music, I just like it. Because, like, I have a weird problem where, like, if I listen to music, I can kind of visualize it. Like, I don't know. It's something with my eyes. I have really bad eyes, because, like, you're blurry. You're sort of blurry. I can't read anything on there. I need glasses, like you do. Well, I think I could Sounds so dumb, but I could kind of see the sounds that I hear not like from you guys But like when I'm listening to my favorite song I hear it and I can see it when I close my eyes

39:22

Hmm

Brayden 39:23

like I can imagine What I would look like dancing to it or

39:27

I

Brayden 39:29

don't know. Yeah, I find it weird I kind of find it a bit embarrassing, but you know,

Toni 39:33

it's something like, you know, very creative mind like it Both of you seem to have, like a lot of your self care is about being able to imagine and, and kind of go outside of what your immediate reality is.

Brayden 39:48

Well, I mean, when I was younger, obviously, like, shoji, my nails, they're horrible. Trust shot. Yeah. Everybody knows, like,

Toni 39:55

He bites his nails, folks. Really

Brayden 39:56

badly, really bad. They're like nubs, guys. Um, well, guys, look, they're bad,

40:01

I know.

Brayden 40:03

Ugh, I hate them. I wish I could just cut off my fingers.

40:07

Hmm.

Brayden 40:07

But, To stop myself from biting because you know, when I was three years old, I can't smoke a, uh, smoke a cigarette. I gotta stop myself from saying some certain words. I can't smoke a cigarette when I'm three, uh, three years old, but like, or not three, in third grade. But like, I used to kind of, it's a, it's more of a creative way. I used to zone out on a certain object and kind of like, It's a weird explanation because it's hard to do it now, but when I was younger I had a bit bigger, more, bigger mind. I could kind of focus on an object and move it with my eyes and like stretch it out or move it. Imagine it doing things,

40:43

but it's still

Brayden 40:43

there when I unfocus. Right, right, right. In the same position. It's weird. Like I used to distort things with my eyes.

Toni 40:50

Interesting.

Brayden 40:51

Yeah, I mean a lot of people say it's interesting. I find it weird.

Toni 40:56

I think, I think brains are fascinating, right? Like everybody's brain is so different. Yeah, I mean. Great gifts that I've

Brayden 41:02

never met anybody

Toni 41:03

that could do

Brayden 41:03

what I, what I used to do. Be able to do great

Toni 41:05

imaginations, right? Like that's, you know, I think some of the best artists,

Brayden 41:10

I mean growing up was your imagination.

Toni 41:12

Music writers, like authors, whoever those are, they have great imaginations. So I appreciate that. I appreciate that.'cause look at, look at what we use them for Yeah. It sounds like we talk when we're talking about self-care, we're talking a lot about coping.

Brayden 41:28

Yeah.

Toni 41:29

Mm-Hmm. do you see them as the same thing? Do you see them as different?

Brayden 41:32

Well, self care can be like a lot of different things, but coping is when you're trying to cope with grief or something along the lines of that, like coping with something sad, or coping with what you did, or feeling regret. That's what kind of coping is. You got to cope from that, but self care is kind of helping you cope. It helps the cope, you know? That's a new saying now. Helps the cope.

Sophia 41:59

I don't know if I see it as the same thing, because I think, in my head, I think self care can also be, like, like, a thing that you do when you're not, like, feeling well. Other feelings. Like it can't be just something that you do for fun.

Toni 42:15

Right. It's not in response to an immediate feeling

Sophia 42:19

that you're having. Especially if it's something that's like, like you do every day, that like you have to do.

Toni 42:24

Yeah. So it's something that keeps you in balance. Before you, before you feel unbalanced, right? Because sometimes when we feel like a big feeling, like grief or loss or anger, even like, then we need to get our coping mechanisms happening. But self care is like kind of the before to kind of try to keep us in balance. Um, and then maybe we pull out coping when we're like, Oh! Out of balance. I

Brayden 42:48

mean, sometimes coping also doesn't work in a way. Because like, for me personally, I'm still trying to cope with a death from when I was seven. My Uncle Lou, he died due to mental health problems. He committed sewer slide. It was not fun. Growing up with that grief, I'm still affected by it. Sometimes, I have a picture of him and a drawing he made for me in my room, hung up. And sometimes I just Take a look into it and just try and I don't want to get over it because I don't want to forget him Right, but I need to get over the sad feelings I need to be happy for the way he was and what he did for my family like right grief and coping I feel like for me my experience with grief and coping. It's different from like self care Yeah, because self care for me is just taking me time But coping for me is like trying to cope with something else that's not You Related to me. Right. Well, I mean, some things are related to me. But some things I gotta cope from not being related to me. Like, I'm not sensitive in any way. Like, I could take a, I could take an insult. But like, if something were to really hurt me. Yeah. Then that's trying to give myself self care. But if I gotta cope with grief or being mad or something that I did or something that I said. That's coping for me. But self care is something that I use to help myself and not just cope. Because coping, coping is a two part thing for me. Cause. It can be related to self care with me, but it can also just be its own thing,

44:23

right?

Brayden 44:23

Like it's it's its own stance It's kind of like a co ownership. Yeah For something else.

Toni 44:29

Yep.

Sophia 44:29

Yeah, they're

Toni 44:30

related but different.

Sophia 44:31

Yeah, I think coping like a reason behind it.

Toni 44:34

Mm hmm

Sophia 44:36

Maybe not always self care. I don't know.

Toni 44:38

And maybe you use some of the similar things in coping and self care, but they're, when you use them is different. Like the timing of it, right? Depending on what's going on.

Brayden 44:47

They're like long lost cousins. They look different, but they're like related. Sure,

Toni 44:52

yeah.

Brayden 44:53

I don't even know what I'm talking about. Guys, I'm going delusional in this box.

Toni 44:57

It is a tiny box, but uh, what was the thing I wanted to ask folks? Um, where do you get help or support to like improve your self care? Where do you find more tools? We talked about counselor, we talked about like, therapist, but like, do you ever like, your friend does that, so you do that, or like, where do you get those tools? Do you learn from your family? I learn from everybody.

45:24

Yeah.

Brayden 45:24

Like, I learn from things, I learn from people, I learn from things I know, things I read, things I see, everything. Everybody's learning all the time. You're learning by being in this box with us. You're learning by being in this box with us. I'm learning with being in the box with you guys. Like, we're all learning about everything all the time. So if you see something, you analyze it. That's probably what we all do. It's in our human nature to look at things and analyze them. Like, some people can overanalyze human traits, or some things can overanalyze objects, or other things. Like, I tend to overanalyze people's personalities and pick out what I want to be, and I kind of think Put on an act for them, because I, when I hang out with people, I only hang out with one person, and I kind of adjust to be that person. Like, when I'm with my friend M, I like to be goofy. Like, I like to be laughable. I like to be Relatable. Silly. And then when I'm with some other friends, and they need help, I like to be more of a, more of an advice giver, more of a therapist. Some of my friends, they call me a therapist sometimes. They say that I should take care of them. Like courses in being a therapist or a counselor or all this. I'm like, guys, come work at Huddle. Oh What? Guys, we gotta use PG words here. Flip.

Toni 46:38

Yeah, what about you, Sophia? Like, is there I

Sophia 46:41

think like my family and My friends. I think also like online you see things that people do and then you're like, oh, that's a good idea

46:52

Yeah,

Sophia 46:53

also I think I think you'll learn from yourself, too. Things, what not to do, what to, like, replace. Like, sometimes you'll do things that it's like, Oh, I should not have done that. Maybe I should do this instead. And then Yeah. That starts in you.

Toni 47:08

Yeah. So there's a, there's a part of like, being aware, right, of your, like self aware, too, about what works for you or, or that didn't seem to work. So being present enough to be able to, to reflect on those things, right? Because if we continue to do things and it doesn't make us feel better or make us feel more in balance, like we got to recognize that. Sometimes I think it's hard to do that. What about like technology? Is there any, do you use apps? Do you use like Do you use, like, white noise? Do you use, like, meditations? Do you folks do any of those things or know about those things in terms of, like, how technology can enhance self care?

Brayden 47:45

Well, I mean, uh, do

Toni 47:47

you want to do it?

Sophia 47:47

I've seen it. Like, I tried the one, the breathing one, but I felt like I couldn't. It's like I had to hold it for too long.

Toni 47:54

Good hyperventilator.

Sophia 47:55

Um, but Not really. I don't think I use any apps or anything. I think I use like technology more of like a distraction maybe. Or also like things that I like to do, but they're not like connected to like, Oh, this will help your self care. But like, like maybe like this YouTuber that I like, so I would just watch like those videos.

Toni 48:22

That is technology can be used for self care, not just finding out about self care.

Brayden 48:27

Yeah. I mean, for me, it's, I mean, I suffer from addictions, dopamine fixes. The dopamine fixes that I use on my phone is Instagram. Or, like, I use Instagram to talk to people, or I use Snapchat and watch spotlights, and all that. I try and find my dopamine fixes, because, like, that's what I do. We all gotta admit, at our age, we're a little brain rotted.

48:51

Yeah. We gotta find

Brayden 48:52

those dopamine fixes. Yeah, no, fun fact, the human, uh, tension span has lowered since 1980. I bet. By a lot, by a lot.

Sophia 49:01

Yeah.

Brayden 49:02

Actually, no, it's 2000s.

Sophia 49:04

Because even, like, When I was younger, I didn't have like a phone. Like, I would watch TV. I guess that would make my brain rot. But like now my

Toni 49:13

brother has a little iPad. Yeah, different. Like, the how fast you get inundated with stuff, right? Different, different with a phone and TV, but

Brayden 49:21

I mean, it all depends on what kind of stuff you watch. Like, like a lot of kids these days watch Skippity Toilet. That is

Sophia 49:29

I still don't know what that is.

Brayden 49:30

It's, it's bad. Don't ever watch it. It'll rot your brain. It's bad.

Toni 49:34

Don't watch it.

Sophia 49:36

Yeah, no, I always make sure, like, my brother's watching things. Like, here's George. Things that I like. How old is he? He's three.

Brayden 49:43

It's better watching Coco Melon. You

Toni 49:46

should get him to read Robert Munch.

Brayden 49:48

Oh, yeah.

Sophia 49:48

Maybe we have books and I just don't know. Do you know an example? Robert

Toni 49:54

Munch book.

Brayden 49:56

I don't

Sophia 49:56

dunno. Like the Caterpillar something. The Caterpillar

Brayden 49:59

or whatever. I know I'm

Sophia 49:59

making that up. Oh, I

Brayden 50:00

thought you were talking about the one book that a giant caterpillar on it.

Sophia 50:05

Is it the I love you. Like the That's I love you forever.

Brayden 50:09

Love

Sophia 50:09

you forever. Yes. I love him. I, I do. I love them. Yeah. We have to remind you. Yes. I just didn't, the sauce, the paper

Toni 50:15

bag Princess.

Sophia 50:16

All of them. The tooth one,

Brayden 50:18

I love the, um, the one where the kid is being in disturbance in the class. You know what I'm talking about? I don't know that one. He's like the class clown. It's called class Class clown. Yeah, it's called the Class Clown. Huh? Why is that a tongue twister?

Toni 50:29

For me, it is Class clown. I don't wanna say that too fast. Um, all right. So we're at 50 minutes, folks. So if you could give advice, I don't know if we give advice on this podcast, but if you had like a really kind of last words around self care for people who listen, who are listening, what, what would you want to leave them with?

Sophia 50:46

Listen to yourself and your body. Don't like overstress. If you need, it's okay to like take breaks. If you need to do it at school or at home, if you need like alone time, just Always listen to yourself and know when you should take, take a moment to like, even just breathe if you need. Mm

Toni 51:08

hmm. That's great advice.

Brayden 51:10

My advice is just don't be better for anybody but yourself. That's all I gotta say about that. Just be better for yourself and not anybody else because you'd be better for somebody else you'll turn out somebody that you don't want to be. Yep. And I learned that by a long shot. Yep,

Toni 51:25

self care is about loving yourself, right? Prioritizing yourself.

Brayden 51:30

Some of us don't really do that. Listening to yourself.

Toni 51:31

Yeah. Nope, I think those are great words to end on, so, anything else you want to say?

Sophia 51:38

Thank you for having me.

Brayden 51:40

Thank you for having me too. Thank you both for being here. It was nice

Toni 51:42

hearing you. It went by really, really fast. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate you both being here and sharing that and folks out there stay tuned for next week.

Sophia 51:51

What's next? Yeah. A Manipulative Existence. We didn't say bye. Oh.

Toni 52:01

Bye. Bye. You turn it off, it's still going. The X, the box, sorry, the square.

Omar 52:10

Okay everyone, thank you for listening. Toni, Brayden, Sophia, thank you for coming to share with us what self care is and how you practice self care. Best Listenings brought to you by Huddle South Central. Please subscribe, like, and share so others can hear. And take care of yourselves. Till next time. Hey everyone, thank you for listening. Toni, Ray, and Sophia, thank you for coming to share with us what self care is and how you practice self care. Let's listen. Brought to you by Huddle South Central. Please subscribe, like, and share so others can hear. Till next time, take care

52:57

of yourselves.