43: She Built a Business While Navigating Postpartum and Burnout with Sydney Clare

From working 60-hour weeks postpartum to building a thriving business from home, Sydney Clare shares the emotional and practical realities of reinventing your life after burnout from being a special education teacher to building a thriving business as an entrepreneur and mother. We talk about postpartum life, identity shifts, burnout, community, and what it really takes to create a life that supports both motherhood and ambition.

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About Sydney: I’m Sydney Clare! Course development expert and virtual assistant for ambitious business owners who are ready to get their expertise out of their brain and into the hands of the people who need it most.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:02

This is Redefining Us, and I'm your host, Stephanie Contra Hera, licensed professional counselor. And I'm so glad that you joined us today so we can dive into what it means to be a woman in today's society. Figuring out how we balance everything, how we grow, how we be more authentically us, and figuring out who we are through the transitions of life, whether that be motherhood, success, relationships, and all things that happen in women's lives because it's definitely not a linear journey. And I think by talking about it and normalizing it and validating, we can all arise together and be the women that we were meant to be. So keep tuning in, and I am so excited about joining the conversation and being in your ears each week. Let's get into it. Today I'm joined by Sydney Clare, course development expert and virtual assistant for ambitious business owners who are ready to bring their ideas to life. Sydney shares her powerful journey from special education teacher to corporate burnout to building a business on her own, all while navigating early motherhood and the intensities of postpartum. We talk about what it really takes to pivot your life when things no longer feel aligned, and how community, resilience, and willingness to start before you feel ready can completely change your path. We also dive into the behind the scenes of entrepreneurship, why so many people get stuck in the idea phase, and how Sydney helps turn those ideas into tangible, impactful offers. If you've ever felt pulled towards building something of your own, but overwhelmed by where to start, this conversation with Sydney will help you feel both grounded and inspired. Well, welcome back everyone to Redefining Us. We have Sydney Claire with us today, and I'm really excited that you could join us.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

Yeah, thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

Yeah. So let's just dive right in. I really would love to kind of hear your journey from being a special education teacher to transitioning to doing more corporate work and now traditioning to what you do today. So yeah, I'd love to hear that journey for you.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

Yeah. So um I started my journey as a special education teacher. I taught children with cognitive, behavioral, and physical disabilities for a little over four years, really dedicated my life to it. I was really good at working with children with behavior. I ended up getting my master's degree in educational psychology during that time. But I just got so burnt out. Um, it was so hard every day just giving a hundred, thousand percent to these kids. And then ironically, just everybody kept giving me, you know, more students with just a lot of behavior. They didn't, they weren't able to communicate. So I was kind of their person, but then it was like I was the only person for them. And so it just really was exhausting. I ended up getting several different injuries kind of there at my last year. And my husband was like, you need to walk away and figure something out. But I really just didn't have the confidence or knowledge outside of the classroom to do anything outside of what I had been, you know, dedicating my life to and all my education to. So, long story short, I end up getting into a corporate role. I was doing talent acquisition and development for a small family-owned business. And I liked the work I was doing. I was doing training development for, you know, actual employees, and that was really fun. I was doing social media and newsletters and recruiting and onboarding and just a lot of stuff that I really loved. I got pregnant and had my first child, which was awesome. And going back to that corporate world was just so hard. And I felt like I was falling back in that same feeling that I had at the end of, you know, teaching of like, why am I doing this? This is like not working. Like, this doesn't feel good. And it ended up being my manager left. I was the only person there in my department. They gave me a dollar raise, and that was it. I just couldn't believe it. I went back the next day and I was like, look, I deserve more than that, right? And uh they were like, oh no, nope. And I think it was a little uh kind of sexism in me being a mom. Like I really missed out on promotions because I had my son. And I was just like, there's gotta be a better way. And so I ended up transitioning to my own business and I purchased a coaching system that really kind of laid it, you know, mapped it out for me, and it gave me the confidence that I needed. And so I've been in business for only nine months. My son was six months old when I started my business. He's now a little over a year, and this is the first time where I've felt truly aligned in my work that I'm doing. So it's been really awesome to kind of step into this, even during like my postpartum journey, which is also so intense. And honestly, I don't even think I'm over it. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

Yeah, I was hoping you could share like what you do with the listeners. I know I know this, but like, yeah, maybe you could share with people who don't know who Sydney Clare is, like what you do.

SPEAKER_00 5:32

Yeah. So my business really what I do is I'm a course content strategist. So I use a lot of the knowledge that I've gained through, you know, building out curriculum for my students, building out, you know, trainings for actual, you know, professionals, and then my master's degree in training and development. I use all of that to really make sure that I tailor programs and courses towards, you know, different small businesses towards their audience to really make sure that the content is there, but also, you know, that it's aligned with their values and really makes it engaging for their audience. And then I stay on with some of my clients as kind of an admin, and I do a lot of their business management of really making sure that things behind the scenes are are working correctly so that way they can focus on doing the fun stuff in their business because I've learned so much about business and there's just so many things that really boggle them down. And so I kind of take that on for them.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

Yeah, a lot of business owners potentially are more like vision people and have like a ton of ideas. So it's you kind of come in and help them like maybe get organized or lay a path to like follow the steps to actually complete a project.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

Yeah, yeah. Because everybody has some like great ideas, but they really struggle of like, what do I do first to get to that idea? So that's kind of where I come in of like, all right, here's the steps.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

Fair, fair. You you mentioned that your postpartum journey was hard. I imagine starting a business in the midst of postpartum was quite a feat. So yeah, maybe you could share a little bit about what really inspired you to dig deep and do that. Cause I imagine six months in you may not be sleeping very much, and you're probably still doing a lot of feeding all the time. And yeah, I think that would be really cool for the listener to hear about.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

Yeah, postpartum is brutal. And I it's just until you go through pregnancy and having a baby and going through postpartum, like you really don't know. Like, of course, my friends have told me about this experience, and and I tried to prepare as much as possible, but there's really not really any preparing for what it does. And my pregnancy was brutal. I gained 120 pounds. And so after I had my son, there's so many things. Your hormones are messed up, you're trying to breastfeed this baby, you're trying to like, who am I as a person? Now I have 120 pounds, I've got to try and lose, right? You're there's all these things going through your mind. So that first three months, I was just soaking in every ounce of my son and just like trying to be there. And then going to work, I cried every day. I was like, How am I supposed to get up and like leave my child for almost 10 hours a couple days a week? Like, this isn't sustainable. And so that was really hard. I was pumping every day at work. I was going into an office that it was a male-dominated office, right? And I'm like a female. I have to book it on the calendar and say, like, Sydney's in here, so everybody knows when I'm breastfeeding because they know that that's my room. It's the only room in the whole office. And like, that's kind of demeaning a little bit of like people scheduling stuff, like meetings with me when I needed to breastfeed, and that was like a time I needed. And so I just felt like those boundaries just kept getting pushed and pushed and pushed at work. And I'm like, this is my right. Like, this is like this is not abnormal. I'm not asking for anything crazy. And so I just felt in my gut it just wasn't working. And so I was like, you know what? This is just the time. Like, this is the time that I need to do it. And I really just poured myself in January and February of like just getting me out of that office job as much as possible. And it was a lot. I was working like 60 hours a week, but getting over that hurdle was worth it because now I work maybe 20 hours a week. My son goes over to my mother-in-law's twice a week for so I can get work done, and it's been a blessing, but it's a lot of pivoting. My husband even says, like, breastfeeding is the hardest thing I've ever seen anyone else do. And I understand why people quit it because that was just throughout the whole process of like trying to, you know, get your identity as a business owner and breastfeeding and making sure that like after a networking event, oh my gosh, I have to go pump because I'm like so full. It was just a lot of like put your head down and just get through it because this is going to be worth it at the end. And through that, I've developed different systems and procedures to really streamline things. So yeah, it was kind of hard at the beginning, but now it's like getting easier as I go. And that all has to do probably with community. Like the community that I've, you know, been a part of since I started my business is the reason why I'm thriving so much, is because I've needed it.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Yeah, community is a big thing we talk about on this podcast and about how like women need other women, and like it's nearly damn impossible to do this alone. And even though your husband seems to maybe understand the scope of what breastfeeding takes, it's still nothing like hearing another mother kind of experience something so similar. Because, like, as much as our partners may like want to really understand, it's there's always like a little bit of a wall between their understanding and what it's actually like. So, yeah, I think like doing business as a mother with other mothers is like really empowering because you feel like, oh, I'm not the only one like struggling, or I'm not the only one having to balance all these plates or what have you.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

Yeah, and like not having judgment, like that's like a huge thing of like everyone's parents different and everyone's journey's been different, but like finding people that are just like, hey, like that's your journey, and like I support you in that is like so nourishing for me, and it's something I never had in my life until this year, really honestly.

SPEAKER_01 12:01

Were most of the fields that you previously been in been more male-dominated?

SPEAKER_00 12:08

No, I mean, teaching is a lot of females. I just never connected that way with other teachers. Um, and when you're in special education, you're so isolated, like so secluded. And, you know, everyone gets lunch breaks, right? But as a special education teacher, I did not get one single lunch break. I did not get a plan time, I didn't get a break. I would work 11 hours and not get a break all day. And so there was no opportunity to really nourish those relationships unless somebody came to me. And they came to my chaos in my classroom.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

Yeah, sounds like in general, there's maybe not enough support in that realm when it comes to the education system.

SPEAKER_00 12:51

Oh no, that's a whole nother tangent. Yes, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

Yeah, I imagine just though, like being a teacher and then going to corporate and then now doing your own business, that's like a lot of like transitions. Like, how do you feel about where you've landed?

SPEAKER_00 13:09

You know, I am a person that I get really hard on myself. And so when I left teaching, I actually had to do a lot of therapy because like mentally I was just like, Well, I'm a teacher. Like, what are you doing, Sydney? Like, you this is who you are, this is what you've spent 10 years, you know, working towards going to college. And now you wasted your money, you wasted your life, you've wasted most of your 20s. Like those those, you know, that talk was really prevalent in my brain. And, you know, I did a lot of, you know, self-healing spirituality therapy, you know, really just kind of like leaned into kind of learning new routines and new ways to kind of like think about things and talk to myself. And it comes up, don't get me wrong, it still comes up. But now I'm able to frame it of like, look at everything I have because of those decisions I've made. Like being a teacher was a great decision, and being in the classroom was a great decision. Now I get to do work and have a little toddler being a menace in the other room. I get to pause my work, I get to go help him. We we figure it out, and then I get to clock back in. That's exactly what I was doing in a classroom with other people's children. And now I get to do it in my own home and raise my child, and my ultimate goal is to homeschool. And so really it's okay, how do I get to that end goal? Like, what steps do I need to take in my business to get to a place where like I'm able to homeschool him most of the time. But it was a lot of regret for a long time there. So that was three years ago when I left the classroom. And I've had three jobs since then, right? Like that transition, but this is the happiest I've ever been. This is the most aligned I've ever been. And I just have so much trust in the community and the relationships that I've built that I'm going to be able to stay sustain this business for a long time.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

Yeah, I'm kind of curious the transition into motherhood, kind of aligning with this transition for you to kind of come into your own and like maybe be more aligned with yourself. I think that's something that I experienced, like becoming a mom, and something I didn't anticipate um in becoming a mom. So yeah, I was hoping you can maybe speak to that more about how kind of those two things almost happen simultaneously for you.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

Yeah. I'm a planner. I am, I mean, that probably is why I do what I do. So, like everything in my 20s, I'm like, all right, this is when we're gonna buy a house, or this is when we're gonna get married, this is when we're gonna buy a house, this is when we're gonna have a kid. And so those things kind of aligned. And so again, I'm very goal-oriented, and so I really work towards kind of those things. And so we ended up, you know, a huge blessing, was able to get pregnant very easily. I hated pregnancy, and so I was worried, I was very worried after I had my son. Like I was just so miserable. Everybody's like, Oh, it's it's beautiful. I just feel like so great. And I was like, did not have those feelings, hated it. But having him was like, I just like that's my purpose in life. Like raising him feels just so authentic and aligned, and it comes so naturally to me that I was just like, I'll do anything for this thing. Like, I will do anything for this human. I would be pregnant a million times over, literally for this human. And you know, watching him grow and develop, I'd never, you know, really seen a I didn't have siblings or anything. And so all of those things were just so so incredibly inspiring and just being there for him that I literally would do anything. I would work 60 hours if it meant that I that end goal was me spending every day with him. And so getting there, it's like it just comes so naturally being able to do my work and be with my son. And like I don't even see it as you know, something that's difficult. Cause it is, it's very difficult. It is very hard. But it like I just I sit here and I just reflect of like this is literally what I'm supposed to be. Like I feel like this is exactly where I'm supposed to be at this moment, and I'm grateful for kind of all of the different paths that have led me to, you know, raising him.

SPEAKER_01 18:39

Yeah. I'm curious, where do you see you mentioned you see yourself like homeschooling, where do you see your business going?

SPEAKER_00 18:47

Yeah, so kind of where I'm at is I signed my first retainer client in eight months, which I'm really proud of. And so I'd like to sign one to two more retainer clients and then really just build out programs. Um so really kind of just be, you know, in that space of people want to build out a course or a program. We work on it for a couple of months and then they continue on their work. Um, and then building out referrals of different people that can support them with the admin work. Cause right now I'm a little, a little too busy for I have a lot of clients, which is a blessing, but I think I need a niche down because I want it to still align with kind of you know being able to stay home.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I I had to find a balance of like saying no to things and saying yes to things, especially since your brain now is probably like wired to also be thinking about like what does my son need rather than just like what does Sydney need?

SPEAKER_00 19:49

Yeah, I get 30 minutes a day to like do me, and that's like pretty much it right now. We're slowly ramping that up a little bit more, but it's I've just poured myself into sometimes it feels like everything except for me, and that's not sustainable. And so I I think progress over perfection. And so I've really realized like 30 minutes, if that's all I get, then that's all I get, but that's 30 minutes that I wasn't giving to myself. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:18

I guess it would be nice to hear like how you were able to find those 30 minutes. I know a lot of women who are probably listening to this podcast might find themselves like, she found 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 20:28

Like, how did she find 30 minutes? Yeah, well, I'm a morning person, so let's just get that off. I'm a person that doesn't, I don't I'm okay with not getting a ton of sleep. So typically I'll I'll wake up early. I do cycling, and so I'll drop, you know, my son off at like 5:45. I'll go to a cycling class at 6 a.m. and then I pick him up by seven. So that's kind of like an hour. I try to do that once or twice a week. And then yeah, just like after I put him to bed, I try to give myself 30 minutes to read or take a bath. Those are kind of my two options, just to kind of unwind and like get aligned before I go to bed of hey, like you're still a human, and even if today was rough or wherever you're at, you know, this is where you ended. And yeah, that's that's pretty much it. The rest of the day, it just is kind of it's hard. It's you can't fit it in during the day. I can't personally.

SPEAKER_01 21:25

That's fair. Yeah, I imagine working from home and having your kid home most of the time is a challenge to try to find those 30 minutes, but it seems like you found at least some pockets in the day that it's possible.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

Yeah. I'm kind of curious about your like involvement in networking. You know, I see you on social media oftentimes like doing networking things. How often do you do those networking things? Like what is beneficial you think about doing that, and just like your overall experience from doing as much networking as you do?

SPEAKER_00 22:02

Yeah. So when I first started my business in like February, I was doing a lot of networking the first half of the year. Um, up until recently, I was like, all right, this is how I'm getting visibility. Uh when I had applied for jobs previously, uh, after I left education, I applied for 500 jobs. Oh, wow. And like nobody would even give me a conversation in. So I'm really like a people person. Like when they see me, they're like, heck yeah, like I know this girl, right? Like I'm very energetic when I'm in rooms with people, which can be very exhausting when I'm done. But you know, I I love meeting new people, getting to know them, and be that person, but it is very draining. So I leaned into it a lot when I started my business because that's how I was gonna gain business and I did. Like every networking event there at the beginning, I was getting a client literally pretty much every time, maybe a couple. And then now it's really reached the point where people are reaching out to me. They're saying, hey, like we talked five months ago, but I'm ready to work with you. Or I know so and so they recommended me to you. And then they've become my client. And so I think when you're building your business, it's important to get that visibility in front of people at the beginning, but at the end of the day, it ends up becoming more of a referral. And so I'm in this space in my life right now where it's chaos and I'm busy and I'm low-key stressed. My mom's getting married this weekend. Like it's, you know, life has ebbs and flows, and we're definitely in one of those periods. And so I haven't been leaning into my, you know, networking the last two months, but I'm signing two clients in October 1st. And I haven't done any networking. And so now what networking looks like to me is I just get to see people like these are my coworkers, right? But they're not my coworkers. But there it's just now an opportunity to just like be in a room with badass women and brainstorm and talk about business and talk about life and just nurture each other and support each other.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Yeah, I think the business-to-business model helps because usually business owners are energetic about like what they want to work on and feeling inspired. So if you, as a another business owner whose platform is doing like business to business, kind of like comes in and like meets that energy, I think it really helps with like the alignment of the the two business owners to do good work together.

SPEAKER_00 24:45

Yeah. And that's kind of you kind of mentioned my social media model, and that's my my model is really promoting the businesses, one that I'm working with, and the networking that I'm I'm doing. So my Instagram gets about 3,200 views in 30 days. And I'm not doing anything crazy. I'm not videotaping myself. I'm not showing back end stuff. I'm not even showing my projects. I'm just showing people because for me, community is everything. And so when I go to a networking event, I usually post it. And then people are like, oh my gosh, I didn't know you were a part of this. Or like they'll message me and they'll be like, Oh, you know, I'd love to go next time you go and building connections, deeper connections that way. But then when I sign a client, I also give them kind of a spotlight. And I've noticed I've gotten a lot of business from that. Just people being like, oh my gosh, you're working with so and so. I love her. Oh my gosh, I need to work with you now because right. So for me, it's like, who am I working with? That's how I'm highlighting kind of the things that I'm doing. Cause I can do a lot of different stuff. Um, but I really am kind of the future of my business. I want to make a little bit more community-based. So I can kind of go into that if that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:01

Yeah, sure. I would love to hear about it.

SPEAKER_00 26:03

Yeah. So because I do a course content strategist, I find that a lot of people will just come to me and like, I have this idea for a course. And then I'll give them, I'll I'll ask them questions and then I'll give them more ideas. And then I'll be like, oh, this is a cool, you know, title for your workshop or your program. And I love those conversations, but I feel like we need a community to do them. So next year I'm planning on once a month just doing an hour where people just come in and they're like, I have these ideas for a program. I just want to brainstorm. And then we just kind of all give feedback and brainstorm of what we would want in a program and what different things would be like fun to do and actually engaging so that way it would sell. And that way it gives people motivation to actually build their course and build their programs.

SPEAKER_01 26:55

Yeah, I think it's nice to have like almost immediate uh market research kind of like being done in that way too, because you're kind of like getting feedback about what you're even thinking about and whether or not other people would like it. Because like you could have a great idea and you think it's like fantastic, and then you put it out there and then it's like crickets, and it's like, oh wait, maybe no one actually needed this.

SPEAKER_00 27:18

Yeah. Yeah. And that's and that's I don't want people to waste their money, right? I don't want to waste their time and money building a course that's not gonna sell. Like that's not going to help them, and that's only going to make them feel worse because they're an expert. Like people are experts and they deserve to like put their message out there, but we've got to package it in a way that's actually going to align with their audience and engage them to purchase it.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

Yeah, I think it takes a lot of organization to follow through with those things too, going back to I think what your main purpose is too, is like trying to help people get organized. So, like it sounds like you're really trying to meet them wherever they're at, like whether they're at the brainstorming phase, the let's get organized phase, or like let's like take this to the finish line.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of I work with coaches and like consultants, and a lot of them have been, you know, just starting out to like some of them have quite the the visibility right now, and they're building programs. And one of my clients that's a retainer, she's like, I'm doing an online community. I want you to basically run this, and I'm gonna focus on some other things that I'm building out for my business. But then I have another client who doesn't even have a branding board or really a name for their business, right? So, and everything in between, and it's fun and it's exciting. And I love doing I I've always loved meeting people where they're at. That's why I was a special education teacher. All my students were so different. They some of them couldn't talk, some of them had AAC devices, some of them used sign language, you know, they communicated differently, they learned differently, and that knowledge that I have allows me to work with a wide range of business owners, but also tailor their messaging towards their audience because not every audience is the same and they don't want the same, they don't want all that, you know, extra fluff all the time. They really want concrete things. They want to know exactly what they're gonna walk away with when they're done with a program.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

Yeah. Yeah, especially if they're gonna invest like a high ticket value, like they definitely want to know like what they're gonna get for their money.

SPEAKER_00 29:31

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

Yeah. I guess do you ever plan on moving your model to like a it sounds like you have almost like a done for you process where you kind of like just step in and click create the product that the person is wanting.

SPEAKER_00 29:49

Yeah. So what I really envision is building, well, and I kind of did a workshop in June where I basically did the blueprint of building out your own program. And I really liked it. And now I I really kind of just need to take the time to actually build it out. But I want to build something out where it's like a click and buy, like a program that people click and buy. There's a couple things that people get hung up on. One is tech and software, and so I want to do kind of like a small package of like you click and buy, and it tells you, you know, what software to use based off of your coaching business, essentially. So if you're more holistic, there's different platforms that are better for that, but with a premise that really you can build out your program on your website that you're already paying for. And then I really just want the blueprint of this is exactly how you develop these materials. A lot of materials you already have, but this is how you write your objectives and build out your modules so that way everything reflects to that overall message of that entire course. And then, you know, like building out those workbooks and and stuff like that. And then really kind of being a coach. So I can either, you know, look at something that somebody's already developed and help edit and give feedback to it, or I can build it out for them if they're just not ready to do that, or I can coach them through it. Those are kind of my three different facets that I want to offer. And so right now it's just doing the work to get to a point where I can kind of offer those. So I'm hoping in January that'll be a good time to start building out that community base and then also having those like click and buy programs that people can start actually building out their own courses by themselves.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

Yeah. Yeah, that's I think that's a great model, like having different options for how people can work with you kind of allows like maybe you're not needing to be available for every hour that you're gonna earn revenue, but also still be the person to maybe hold someone's hand through it when needed. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I guess is there any other things that you think that the audience might want to know about what your your work is or where they can find you?

SPEAKER_00 32:11

Yeah, well, I just want to leave with this. I think, you know, for a long time I was like, I can't own my own business because I'm not an innovator. I'm not really doing anything different. I don't have, you know, a wide range of things, but I was able to start my business on the premise of being an admin, like things that I already knew. And then I niche down to what I'm doing now. And I wish that more mothers and women were empowered to know that they can start their own business and really be sustainable to support not only themselves but their family and their children. I wish I knew what I knew now earlier, and eventually I kind of want to go down that route of helping other moms start their business. So one of my friends saw me start my business this year, and she goes, you know what? I hate my job. And honestly, I just need to get my kid out of public school. And so I'm sitting down with her and helping her through that process. But my biggest message is like, you can do it. You really can do it. You just have to find the right community to support you in doing that. And with my business, my business is Sending Claire Solutions. I have a website. You can find me on Instagram, LinkedIn. But right now I'm just asking people to sign up for my newsletter. I want people to feel inspired in their business, and I want them to feel organized in their business. And so I give tips and tricks and then little bits and pieces of my story as well in my newsletter a couple times a month. Kind of depends on the month. But um, yeah, so that's kind of all the places you can find me.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

Awesome. Well, thank you again for being on today.

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Yeah, my pleasure.

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