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2025 crushed agents. 100,000 quit. 7 out of 10 didn't sell a single house.
If you're buying or selling in 2026, that stat should scare you. Hiring the wrong agent costs you in price, stress, and regret.
This episode draws a line in the sand. No fluff. No headlines. No hopium. Just what we're seeing on the ground after 1,500+ transactions and $125M+ in annual production.
What we cover:
→ Why waiting for rates to drop is a losing strategy (and what smart buyers are doing instead)
→ The expectation gap that's killing deals before they start
→ Why six-month-old comps are sabotaging your pricing strategy
→ Where buyer leverage actually exists right now
→ The one question every buyer and seller needs to ask before hiring an agent
The "part-time easy money" era is dead. 2026 belongs to agents who are active, sharp, and honest. And clients who know how to find them.
Listen now and stop guessing.
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Transcript
Mike Novak:
[0:33] Alright, we are back and today we are talking about 2026 predictions for the housing markets
and there's going to be a perspective here that's relevant to agents and also to buyers and sellers
as well. Like these definitely really kind of match up between those two different audiences that we
have. I know a lot of agents follow us and listen to this. I also know a lot of buyers and sellers listen
to this as well. They want kind of the inside scoop on what agents are thinking and maybe what
they should be asking their agent about, you know, as well. So, but let's jump right into it. just brutal
hard truth 2025 was tough it.
Rachael Novak:
[1:06] Was so tough.
Mike Novak:
[1:07] Yeah it felt like a lot of work it felt like doing like three or four times amount of work for the
same amount of money or for even less money maybe i guess a hundred thousand agents quit the
industry and as you shared today 71 percent of agents didn't even sell a single freaking house not
even one not even one house.
Rachael Novak:
[1:26] So the the way that the stats broke down, there's 130, no, 1,300,000 real estate agents in the
US. And they kind of broke it down. And agents who sold zero homes was literally 71, almost 72%
of those agents. So contrast this with five years ago, four years ago, where we had a huge influx of
agents come into the market, and everybody was selling a house. Like anybody could sell a house,
The market was easy. We are now like this is a very telling statistic showing that we are now in a
market of grit, of resiliency and of skills.
Mike Novak:
[2:06] If you're a buyer or a seller, what question should you ask to figure out if you're interviewing
one of these 71% of agents? Because I don't think anyone wants to get that agent who was
completely out of the game for a year.
Rachael Novak:
[2:18] Right. And that's what's really tough because I'm going to get your question here in just a sec
because a lot of buyers and sellers like, OK, so you've been in the industry for X amount of time.Great. But the real question is, how many transactions have you been a part of in the last 12 to 24
months? because the market changes almost weekly, some months. And if you do not have an
agent who is actively in the market, a part of transactions, even if they're just mentoring other
people, if they're actively investing, maybe they didn't personally, you know, actually be the real
estate agent in the transaction, but they're a part of things still, they're active in it. That is incredibly
important because people navigating in this market, we talk a lot about that every single week,
different tactics, different negotiation tactics, all these things. But as a buyer-seller, you need to be
asking, have you been a part of, or how many transactions have you been a part of in that time
frame?
Mike Novak:
[3:10] Yeah, I think we've all had those conversations with grandma, real estate agent, who's like,
I've been in this business for 42 years. Like, okay, cool. Well, I pulled your stats and you sold zero
houses last year.
Rachael Novak:
[3:21] Or you've sold 30 houses in the last 20 years.
Mike Novak:
[3:24] Right.
Rachael Novak:
[3:24] Like, I mean, literally.
Mike Novak:
[3:25] And before that, there was no computers. Yeah. So, yeah, I guess market relevancy would be
something that you maybe want to be thinking about if you're a buyer or seller and you're talking to
one of these agents that hasn't sold anything in a year. Like, it's kind of a big red flag.
Rachael Novak:
[3:40] Exactly. And I would have to say that we knew a couple of years ago that the emergence of
teams, large teams or team ridges or brokerages who have a high level of support for their agents,
there is a huge insurgence of this in the market. And it's very necessary. If you're brand new to the
industry, it's very difficult to just break in on your own in this kind of a market. You need to go in and
be able to utilize the brokerage. Experience the track record the expertise of people in your office
or on your team in order to actually learn at the speed you need to to serve people in the right way
so.
Mike Novak:
[4:20] Yeah what went through my mind when i saw this was the 80 20 rule because you just it
applies to every area of life and you know that that rule is very simple that 20 agents do 80 of the
business which is crazy that's just the reality so anyways the good news talking back to you agents
now is if you're here and you're still here and you're still selling houses, 2026 should be at least a
little bit easier.Rachael Novak:
[4:42] Yeah, I think so.
Mike Novak:
you're putting in.
[4:43] Like, I think that this might feel like the year you actually start getting paid again for the work
Rachael Novak:
[4:48] There's been a tangible shift in the amount of work required and not as much payoff, like you
mentioned earlier. Like, a lot of the transaction, like, you just had to pull multiple transactions over
the line this last month, actually, that were on the verge of death, right? You were resuscitating
these things and getting very creative with the other agents. But we've been involved in, what, over
1,600 real estate transactions just in the last eight or nine years. And so we've seen a lot, right? So
people on our team, people in our network, people with us at Real who we mentor, the goal is to
really be in business, not necessarily doing business with directly, but in business with people who
have seen things. And that's also why we're not really worried. We're not guessing when it comes
to kind of what we're seeing and forecasting here. And even headlines, I would say, they're going to
be meant to scare you. They're going to be meant to scare you out of the industry. They're going to
be meant to scare you into getting another job. Let's jump in.
Mike Novak:
[5:51] Yeah, let's hit right to the predictions now for 2026. The first one I've got for you is that rates
won't drop that fast. But there's one thing that matters a lot more than what the rates are. So we've
all been waiting for rates to come down since 2022. It's now 2026. So it's time to move past this
like, hey, let's just pray that they come down because they have come down and they've come
down to what is really the new norm.
Rachael Novak:
[6:17] Yep.
Mike Novak:
[6:17] Okay. So it's the perspective of what the norm is that hasn't necessarily caught up to that. So
the sooner you catch up to that as the agent, the sooner you can guide your buyers and sellers to
catching up to that as consumers as well. Like if you got people holding out for 3% rates, they're
not ever going to buy a house, you know, or it's going to be 40 years before you see that climate
again, you know, so, but the days of free money are long gone. And if you haven't gotten past that,
you're going to have a really, really big problem. So the much more important thing that matters so
much more than that is your ability to put really creative financing packages together.
Rachael Novak:
[6:50] Yep.
Mike Novak:
[6:50] So when I say that, like, how do you structure your deal? If I tell you like, hey, we got to do a
zero down first time buyer, they have like $2,000 to their name. They don't have any money for
closing costs. Can you get that deal done? You know what I mean? Can you package that in a waythat makes sense? Can you understand, articulate to your buyers why maybe doing a rate buy
down makes more sense than getting dollars off the house? Things like this, What is your
understanding of really creatively putting deals together? Because we got lots of great deals done
in 2025. In fact, the best deals that I've seen since 2017 for buyers, including $50,000 in closing
costs. $25,000 in closing costs, interest rates that started with a four, you know, using two one buy
downs, like there's just a lot of really good opportunity that I can already feel is sliding out of the
market as the market picks back up.
Rachael Novak:
[7:36] Exactly right. Yeah. I mean, we watched, you know, multiple families get into properties in the
$700,000, $800,000 range with almost zero down, right, in this market. And while that is likely
behind us, as we're already seeing a huge pickup in our market, we are seeing, you know, the
inventory is low because a lot of things came off the market over the holidays and buyers are back
to getting deals quickly. Like we've just listed a couple of homes and they are moving very quickly.
There's active buyers out. But like you said, being able to understand and put together good
financing packages, you know, working with the lender on like what that particular buyer needs and
versus what a seller is going to be willing and able to do, right? We are still, I think, in a window
when we're talking mid-January right now, we are still in a window that there's opportunity for things
that have been on the market over the last couple of months, right? If something's still on the
market right now over the last couple of months, there's still opportunity. And even homes that
maybe have come off the market and come back on, it's very likely that those sellers are going to
be willing to negotiate because they're still very motivated to get that thing sold. But very quickly
over the next two, three, four weeks, literally weeks, we are going to see the market change in real
time. Right.
Mike Novak:
[8:46] And it's important to remember what comes with low interest rates. And I'll just remind you of
2020, 2021, we saw the craziest price escalations we've ever seen. I mean, a hundred thousand,
$200,000 over list price. And so that was like real dollars getting tacked onto people's payments.
So low interest rates is not everything it's cracked up to be. It creates a frenzy buying environment,
whereas right now it's more of a cautious buying environment. So really think through what it is that
you really want.
Rachael Novak:
[9:12] Exactly. Yep.
Mike Novak:
[9:12] So prediction number two, expectation setting will determine everything. We did a podcast on
this last week. Go back and watch it if you want. I think we were talking about seven ways to keep
deals together because the contract fallout rate is so severe last year, and I'm sure it's going to be
for the first part of this year as well, where there's just a misalignment of expectations between
buyer and seller, and the deal falls apart, and typically pretty early on.
Rachael Novak:
[9:35] Absolutely. And I think this really comes down, like when we say expectation will determineeverything, it's that expectation will determine the client experience and the contract going all the
way to closing, right? Like, that's really what the goal is. So, you know, if you're a buyer agent, and
I think we talked a little bit about this in the last one, but if you're a buyer's agent, and you're
working with these buyers, and they're very uncertain, just talking them into the contract without
setting clear expectations and having them be on board is not a win for them. And it's not going to
be a win for you when they get nervous and want to back out. So really, being clear about what it is
and almost taking the stance of talking them out of certain things, right? Making sure that they are
in this, making sure that this is really what they want and then running the numbers like we had
talked about. Making sure they understand their exact payment commitment. That is going to be
incredibly important as we go into this new market in 26.
Mike Novak:
[10:29] Right. A lot of this is really about uncertainty. Like when people feel uncertain, they don't like
to move forward with things. And so the question needs to be for you as an agent, how do you
remove uncertainty? The easiest way to do that is to make sure people know what to expect before
it's going to happen. Now they feel very confident all of a sudden. Okay. And that's just huge. So
your buyer presentation, your listing presentation, all those things you've got to get totally dialed in
and make sure that you take the time to walk people through what that process is going to look like
it can be really tempting especially with like your your sphere or a repeat client To just gloss over
what the process looks like, you know, and just sign them and move on to your next appointment.
But you really got to slow down and make sure you explain everything to every client and treat
every client on their own like as if they've never bought or sold a home before.
Rachael Novak:
[11:14] This is incredibly important, especially in a market like this, where we likely, and we already
have, are starting to see some of the people that purchased in the last five to eight years feeling
comfortable enough to have the conversation about an upsize or about a downsize, about actually
selling the house and moving into something because the payment is going to be within a little bit
closer range, right? And what most people miss, and we've talked about this before, most people
miss, most agents miss, is if those people have only ever purchased a house, they've never sold a
home, those people are first-time home sellers. They don't know the process from the sales side,
from the listing side. So again, making sure they understand the process. Don't assume just
because they own a home, they know what it takes to sell. They know what it takes. This is where
you step in as a professional, I would say, especially with past clients, with Sphere, with people that
you know, like, and trust already.
Mike Novak:
[12:10] Good friends.
Rachael Novak:
[12:10] Yeah, good friends. Do not assume that they know. Walk them through it very carefully, very
strategically. They will appreciate more than you know being led through by a true educator and
guide and consultant and not assuming that they know what they're doing.Mike Novak:
[12:25] Yep, totally accurate. prediction number three elevated inventory means you must master
pricing strategy always um this is a really big one and again we've done a podcast on how to price
your listings, The big mistake that I continue to see agents make, especially the ones like those
ones that haven't sold a home in like a year or so, is they keep basing their pricing guidance off of
closed comp from six months ago. Like that just does not mean anything right now. So it's
important to look at, but it really shouldn't determine what your list price is or what your offer price
is. You should really get active competition and see how you stack up to that.
Rachael Novak:
[13:00] That's exactly right.
Mike Novak:
[13:01] So that's just going to position your clients a lot better. and you know there's a chance you
may lose some listings over that because in some areas the market has gone down from what it
was six months ago but at least you're being honest and upfront with people you know you're not
telling them a number that you can't actually fulfill which is just setting them up to fail later exactly.
Rachael Novak:
[13:19] Right yeah i mean the worst thing the worst thing that you can do is quote unquote buy a
listing by telling them that you can get a certain number that you are not 100 confident you can get
so very much very good point.
Mike Novak:
[13:31] Number four buyer leverage is here to stay for now. We have seen the most buyer leverage,
like I said a few minutes ago, in eight years. I mean, if not longer. Buyers are all of a sudden, able
to negotiate, which is actually a really good thing. You know, again, back to like, what do you want
in the market? When you have really low interest rates, sellers really have all the leverage, right?
We experienced that during the COVID market and it kind of fundamentally changed expectations
for sellers. Like they feel like they have all the cards and the reality is you don't. Like as there's
inventory that comes up, as there's other options beyond your home, your leverage goes down and
goes down significantly. So I'm not saying it's the buyer's market. Like in our market, it's actually
quite neutral. And it's quite sub-market and listing dependent because some like are definitely
seller market, some are definitely buyer's market. But it's just something you got to think about, you
know what I mean? And don't just run with this mindset that 2021 is still what it is because it's not.
Rachael Novak:
[14:27] Yeah. Well, and I think the shift that's happened, right, like because it went so far the other
way this last year where buyers had a lot of negotiating power. Like we've talked about, buyers
were able to get a lot of closing costs or negotiate through inspection items and really get things
addressed that in a market years prior to that. would have never been able to do. So I think what
that has done and what that's going to do this next year going into 26, even if the market does
speed up, right, because it does every spring, even if the market does come back a little bit and
swing back toward the sellers, what the buyers in the market and savvy agents have learned is the
discernment. And so now buyers are going to be going in much more discerning, much morecautious, and not rushing in emotionally in to get homes, there's still going to be that discernment of
the have these things been addressed i'm going to get an inspection you know we're going to begin
negotiating through some of these items as they should right because like you mentioned that real
estate is is meant to be a two-way negotiation it's not meant to be one side gets to like pound the
other side and absolutely take over the castle yeah.
Mike Novak:
[15:31] It's a good thing for sure like a lot of these things are good things you know and prediction
number five the basics will continue to separate the pros from the amateurs When you look at the
people, those 71% of people that are not selling homes versus the ones that are, A lot of that
comes down just to doing the work, like day to day, knowing what are those two or three things you
have to do and doing them, whether you feel like it or not. Like if you can do that one thing as a real
estate agent, you're going to succeed.
Rachael Novak:
[15:55] That's exactly right. And then this, this kind of ties back to being in an environment of people
who have experience, right? Especially if you're newer into the industry and you're trying to figure
out how do I break in? How do I get business? How do I do this? You need to put yourself in
environments of people who are doing it, who have built something, who know what to do, who can
give you that specific guidance and do the things. It's very, very difficult. And I think the COVID
market, the unicorn years brought in such a huge influx of part-time agents who could just sell
houses on the side and make a bunch of money still with their full-time jobs. And if you it's getting
back to the truth about real estate and this profession is that full time real estate agents have to
treat it like a full time career.
Mike Novak:
[16:40] Yeah. Yeah. Like the freedom of real estate is awesome. It's also extremely dangerous.
Rachael Novak:
freedom.
[16:46] And it's and it's heavily earned. Like you have to spend years and years grinding to earn that
Mike Novak:
[16:54] For sure so there's our five predictions for you if you've got your own predictions love to hear
about them you can send some message on instagram post it wherever you hear this whether it's
on youtube or on itunes but i'd love to hear what your thinking is going to happen you know like
obviously things are already very dynamic you know like trump is doing a 200 billion dollar
mortgage-backed security purchase with fannie mae and freddie mac which is very interesting
that's going to infuse a lot of liquidity in the market very fast could drop rates faster than we
thought. So there's just a lot of like possible things that could happen and maybe things that people
aren't even thinking could happen that may.
Rachael Novak:
[17:29] Exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be curious too, like if other agents have, have other predictions.I think, I think these five are kind of the core. Um, but yeah, if you have something to share, tag us,
let us know. Or if you think we're wrong on any of them, Hey, hit us up, let us know. I want to know.
Mike Novak:
[17:46] You better tell us while we're wrong. And you better not be one of those 71% agents.
Rachael Novak:
[17:51] Yeah, you better have sold the house in the last 12 months.
Mike Novak:
[17:53] All right. We'll see you next week, guys.