93. Screaming, Silence, and Sexual Authenticity

Have you ever wondered why some people scream during orgasm while others barely make a sound?

Is being loud during sex "performative," or is being quiet a sign of sexual shame?

In this episode of The Cliteral Truth, we explore one of the internet's most searched questions about sex: Why am I quiet during sex?

We challenge the idea that loud equals passionate and quiet equals disconnected. Instead, we propose that there are really two broad groups of people:

• Those who experience sex from a place of sexual freedom.
• Those who experience sex through sexual shame.

Within the sexually liberated group, you'll find both naturally quiet and naturally vocal lovers. Some people simply don't express emotion loudly—in bed or anywhere else. But within the sexually shamed group, silence often comes from fear, embarrassment, conditioning, or worrying about being judged.

Whether you're naturally quiet, enthusiastically vocal, or somewhere in between, this conversation is about removing shame—not prescribing a "right" way to experience pleasure.

If you've ever asked yourself, "Is it normal to be quiet during sex?" or "Why can't I let go during orgasm?" this episode is for you.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:12

This is the Cliteral Truth.

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The podcast where we sit around naked and talk about sex, dating, and relationships.

SPEAKER_03 0:27

Welcome back to the podcast, everybody. We are talking today. We're kind of revisiting episode two, which was called The Note on the Door, in a way, in that we're talking about sexual noise and being and vocalizing during sex. Really vocalizing during orgasm, if we're gonna get super specific about it. Not just dirty talk and things like that. So we want to talk about noise and making noise and how we have a kind of our own lived experience on this where we feel like there are subsets of people, I'm gonna let Lexi really describe this, but you know, and it we feel like it has to do with being either sexually shamed or sexually liberated. Those are the main kind of the main division here. And within that we have some subdivisions.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Right. So imagine a room, there's a curtain dividing this room, and we have a super large group of people on the shamed side of the room.

SPEAKER_03 1:30

Yeah.

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And those are people who are quiet during sex due to the they're suppressing. On the other side of the curtain is the liberated side of the room, and there are two much smaller groups of people. We have some people that are quiet, but liberated.

SPEAKER_03 1:49

Yeah. Because they just quiet for whatever reason, like yeah. They're just born quiet.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Well, and maybe biologically they're they're they're quieter. I d I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 2:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

Right. I'll I I'm gonna ask you about where you were with any of those women, because we're gonna rely on you heavily in this episode, because I'm just me and have had few experiences with women, and you you've been with lots of women, right?

SPEAKER_03 2:16

And your experience is that men typically aren't as loud as women can be, or as loud as you anyway.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

Absolutely. So, okay, back to the liberated side of the room. We have a small group of people that are quiet but liberated. And then we have a small group of people that are loud on the liberated side.

SPEAKER_03 2:36

So both small groups on the liberated side.

SPEAKER_01 2:38

Yes, two small groups of quiet and loud, and then one huge ass group on the shamed side of and they're they're all quiet.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:49

Right. So that that's who we like drew this out on paper to get to the bottom of it. Yeah. And and it you say you're gonna go off of your lived experience, and and that's what you know, this this is your lived experience. And it's for me, the the experiences that I have just within myself, yeah, this this checks out to me.

SPEAKER_03 3:11

Right, exactly. So like if you listen to the end of our podcast and you hear our disclaimers at the end, we're not scientists, we're not doctors, we're not therapists, but we do have lots of lived experience. So my lived experience in this is I think, yeah, this checks out. People who are quiet that I've experienced tend to be suppressed. And the way I know this is because some of them, as they've gotten to feel safer, are louder. Oh maybe not screamers, but I also have been with some who are not necessarily quiet in their mannerisms or in their in their their um personality.

SPEAKER_01 3:53

Laughter, etc. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:56

But they're silent when it comes to orgasms.

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Right.

SPEAKER_03 4:01

Silent. Like pull it in. They they might hold their breath and everything. And and and again, the biggest part of voice is wind. You might be saying, Well, I've been quiet, but it's bec and it's because I didn't have any wind to come out, you know.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

That was me.

SPEAKER_03 4:15

I had I had exhaled before that orgasm started.

SPEAKER_01 4:19

Caught me at the wrong time and I had nothing to do with it.

SPEAKER_03 4:22

You have no air, your vocal cords will not work. So that's that's a fact. That's one thing.

SPEAKER_01 4:28

But there's a difference between getting caught in a silent orgasm, which I have done or suppressing when it's not my norm, right, or doing making some doing that every time, right. Suppressing making sure you are not allowed. There's a difference with that. I think that if if someone is like loud or like if someone's consistent, if someone's consistently, but if if you if you see any variance in their loudness or quiet, yeah, that's where you're like, oh, why are those why is that different? What's going on now? kind of thing. And they're changing what they do according to yeah, the situation or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

Right.

SPEAKER_01 5:12

That's where you're like, oh, okay, they're choosing to be more quiet or holding it in. Yeah, they're holding something back. Why?

SPEAKER_03 5:21

Right.

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And you have to think, well, okay, they're they were taught to do that somehow.

SPEAKER_03 5:28

They were taught to be quiet in society, or they're worried about somebody hearing them through the wall or through the ceiling.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

And even if it's just worried about this new partner that they're with.

SPEAKER_03 5:38

Could be that.

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Am I gonna is that noise gonna be acceptable?

SPEAKER_03 5:41

That's my experience too, was as somebody got feeling safer with me. I mean, I had one in particular who was sex positive but really suppressed in lots of ways. Really didn't like the male body, really didn't like to see a penis, things like that. And and she totally, as she got more safe with me, those things went away. Totally went away. At first I just thought, oh, these are her kinks, you know. She's just but then it became clear it's like she's got something, I don't know what it was, but it as she got safer, totally turned around.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:20

Got loud, got became an initiator, was you know, got rid of the blindfold, opened her eyes, wanted to see everything.

SPEAKER_01 6:29

Went from shamed to the liberated side of the room and got with this loud group over here. Yep. I think.

SPEAKER_03 6:37

And at the same time, I also like I said, just to close this loop, I've been with people who have a normal laugh, they don't feel they're they're not introverts, they can vocalize lots of things, but in the bedroom they hold that in.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 6:55

Don't know why. But this is my lived experience, don't have data.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

Well, we've well, we're cropping it up to just shame.

SPEAKER_03 7:02

Shame. And I think in that case, I that's there's some kind of shame. Yeah, exactly. So when I say I don't know why, I don't know why she she would hold it in, but other than shame, and that was what it was.

SPEAKER_01 7:13

Yeah.

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I know that from her perspective, she came from a very religious background, very, you know, purity culture background. Um anything that would be her scene any th any experienced sexuality outside of this close in-the-bedroom situation was unacceptable.

SPEAKER_01 7:37

We have to remind listeners what you had on your dream partner paper.

SPEAKER_03 7:43

That was what I was gonna make the point about.

SPEAKER_01 7:45

Okay. Okay. We sorry. I I just have to I have to remind listeners who we're dealing with here, both me and Ryan.

SPEAKER_03 7:57

Right.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

This is if you haven't listened, if you haven't uh heard this before.

SPEAKER_03 8:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

So in a previous episode, we did talk about how we both had like these dream partner papers that we had written down, and then we cast them away and were just dating using relationship types, episode 40, I believe. If you've not planning on partnering, and and anyway, come to find out though, then when we started dating, that we had these papers. Like, oh yeah, that paper, you know, I've just been having fun, you know, whatever. I have all these, I have my partners, and you had your partners, and we were kind of solo poly, both of us, and uh living with these relationship types of friend with benefits and fuck buddies and and hookups every here and there, and whatever. So we found these papers, and on your paper, it says that she will come loudly and something like loudly and enthusiastically and she'll make noise.

SPEAKER_03 9:01

Basically, the louder the better. Right.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

Was what was on your paper.

SPEAKER_03 9:05

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

Which was so apropos, yeah, because you said I don't know anyone who is louder than you. Or as loud as you or at as loud or louder, like nobody comes close.

SPEAKER_03 9:21

And so this was like, well, you know, this goes back to a concept I always on your paper, and uh Yeah, this is exactly it goes back to a concept I always talk about, and some people roll their eyes, but I'm 59 years old, and this has been the story of my life. You get all the things you want in life, you just have to want it bad enough. And there is power to believe it.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

There is power in writing things down, right? Right? There's science behind that, right?

SPEAKER_03 9:47

So So and I'll say this to people that I coach in other forums other than relationships and stuff, but I'll tell them, you know, you get what you want in life. You just gotta want it hard enough. You gotta, you've gotta because then that that makes you do things.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

That makes you do things causes you to do things to put yourself in a position to whatever.

SPEAKER_03 10:07

Exactly. It's not magic or anything like that. But when they say, when they when I'm coaching somebody like in their career or something, and they show up and they're like, I hate my situation, and I'm like, you know, and we go through this for a couple of weeks or something, I I sometimes get moved to say, Yeah, but you wanted this. And then then they get really upset. And that was my point. I want to get them upset about this because anger will get you to move. And so it's like, but I've I've had that situation where I was coaching somebody and she said, you know, she was having this, she was estranged from her son, and there was all this stuff going on with her job and everything, and I'm like, Do you believe you deserve better than this? And and and honestly, I said, You you wanted this, you know, and and and the situation with her son, I'll just get really specific here, was he was kind of a kind of a leech. He was he was taking money from her, he was doing all this stuff, and she had been telling me for months, I wish he could stand on his own. Well, she had the opportunity to force him to stand on his own, and it alienated her him from her. He got pissed off and went away. And and she felt bad about that. But I had to remind her, looking in the rearview mirror, no, this is what you wanted all along. You know, maybe you didn't want it this way, you don't want it to go down this way, but you wanted him to be more independent. Last I heard, he was a lot more independent, you know, because she drew a line in the sand. So she even the shit you get in life, you wanted it.

SPEAKER_01 11:31

You know? Well, yeah, I uh or or the the the the your point is you didn't do differently to get something else. Exactly to get another outcome.

SPEAKER_03 11:43

That's the point.

SPEAKER_01 11:44

So this is kind of magical, but I ended up being the exact person on your paper and vice versa.

SPEAKER_03 11:51

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 11:52

And I mean, I I don't know, but for me, okay, like I'm loud as fuck. I know that now marrying a virgin. I had no idea. I I thought everybody was, you know. I I I just didn't understand there's, you know, uh a spectrum maybe and things go into it and whatever. I thought, well, you know, everybody's loud.

SPEAKER_04 12:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:18

Everybody, you know, I I never tried to change that in my body or snuff that out or or tone that down or anything. What I tried to do, because I had kids, was muffle the loudness, but I didn't try to change the loudness in my in my body at at all.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

Right.

SPEAKER_01 12:38

So I I was in a group sex situation, and one of my friends, still dear friend, just made this statement from the other from another room or whatever. Ah, you're loud as fuck.

SPEAKER_04 12:52

Like exactly.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

So like I didn't know, I don't know. I mean, I was in a threesome one time where I'm like, she didn't make a peep, what's happening here, or whatever, but that's a different story. So I have come to realize that, oh, I'm off on an island by myself, just screaming my guts out, and I yeah, according to the note on the door, the whole the whole neighborhood can hear me, you know. So like thank you for that. We will not name this person.

SPEAKER_03 13:38

Yeah. But we could, we won't.

SPEAKER_01 13:40

We could, we won't.

SPEAKER_03 13:41

Um, but yeah, I mean, and and that's a great point. And and the you what you said about the being magical, we got what we wanted out of this. And I didn't want to overs overstep my thing on what I was saying. You even the shit you get in life, you want it. It's not that. It's that you don't you don't believe enough to that you deserve better, and so you don't do those things. And we did those things. That's why we ended up coming together the way we did. It's like this is what I want, this is what I'm looking for. And did I know that?

SPEAKER_01 14:09

So one of those things wasn't you settling on someone who wasn't that paper.

SPEAKER_03 14:13

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

You dated a lot of and and you know, slept with a lot of women who were quiet, but they were never gonna be your person, right?

SPEAKER_03 14:23

So one of the first things I found out about you was you were noisy, and I didn't know a whole lot. So that wasn't enough to say, well, she's my one. But it was like, oh checked that one. There's one box I can check. You know, and so automatically you're not getting ruled out because you know because that's something I hadn't found yet.

SPEAKER_01 14:41

Back to the room, the room of noise.

SPEAKER_03 14:44

The room of noise.

SPEAKER_01 14:45

Oh, yeah, with the curtain dividing it.

SPEAKER_03 14:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:48

I want listeners to and we might bring in the five whys here. First of all, where do you think you are in this room? There's a curtain dividing the room. We've got a shamed side where that is a major problem and concern for those people.

SPEAKER_04 15:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

And this this thing that they that's kind of winning them. It's this big elephant in the they can't seem to get rid of it, you know, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

Um, and then we have the other side of the room, which is the completely free, sexually free and liberated side of the room, right? And unfortunately, we think that is the sparser side of the room.

SPEAKER_03 15:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

So back to the shamed side of the room. First of all, are you quiet or are you loud? Do you know? Have you been with enough partners or in enough, you know, sexual situations with others to know that you're quieter or louder? The secondary question to that is are you letting it just be? Or are you controlling, are you manipulating that within your body and within your experience? Are you snuffing that out or toning that down or trying to, are you fighting against that?

SPEAKER_04 16:08

Right.

SPEAKER_01 16:09

That will absolutely alter your orgasm experience, unless you're getting, you know, caught without air. That that's that's different.

SPEAKER_03 16:20

Yeah. And you know, super intense, you just don't you can't make noise because it's like we said earlier, it's physically impossible.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

And I know someone who who said, Oh, I have super great orgasms and they're all silent.

SPEAKER_03 16:30

Right.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

And my question to that person is do you think they could be better if you weren't? Right. I I would argue that they can. Yeah. You know.

SPEAKER_04 16:41

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 16:42

So uh first, you know, you have these series of questions. Are you quiet or loud? If you're quiet, are you controlling that quiet in any sense of the word? Are you completely letting go? And that might help you determine where you're at in this room, in this big ass circle of quiet people. And I think for the most part they are suppressing something, and so yeah, they're standing in the same side of the room.

SPEAKER_03 17:11

If it's any consolation, they're in good company, because that's where most people are, but but do you want to stay in that part of the room? Do you want to go do you want to make it to the other side of the room?

SPEAKER_01 17:19

Right, and you're like, well, no, I don't, but like, I don't want everybody to hear either. What do I do? What do you do? You know, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 17:26

Well, there are things you can do about that, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

Well, it's it's not easy though.

SPEAKER_03 17:30

Because the best sets we can use a pillow or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 17:33

And I will tell you, I will be up front. Like, we stay in two different uh apartment, two separate apartment complexes.

SPEAKER_04 17:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

One of them entails kids.

SPEAKER_04 17:46

Right.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

One of them does not.

SPEAKER_04 17:48

Right.

SPEAKER_01 17:49

They're both apartment complexes with other tenants, and one of them we find ourselves using pillows or trying to muffle or you know, all of that, and the other one we don't. So and you just let it rip.

SPEAKER_03 18:05

In your experience, it's better when you don't have to use pillows.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

Absolutely. 100%.

SPEAKER_03 18:12

Well, because you're gonna have to get in your head at least a little bit and then come out of the out of the emotion because you've got a uh do I have a pillow handy?

SPEAKER_01 18:21

Yeah, that happens where I'm like reaching for a pillow because I'm climaxing, and and that is a or even if I already have a pillow, yeah. It's distracting.

SPEAKER_03 18:32

It's hard to breathe.

SPEAKER_01 18:33

It's hard to breathe.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

It's hard and so it's it it is not ideal in any sense of the of the word. It eliminates my ability to see you and have because that actually really does make a big difference, I have found.

SPEAKER_04 18:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

Even if we're not communicating words, yeah, we're communicating through facial expressions, eye contact, and and so we can read signals. You can't do any analysis of how is this going for me when you can't see my face.

SPEAKER_03 19:10

Right, exactly. And that's a big thing.

SPEAKER_01 19:11

You can only go off of sound, right?

SPEAKER_03 19:14

Right.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

Well, if I'm not making sound, but I'm but you can tell in my face that I'm feeling good, right? Don't stop. Right. Like, you can't know that if I have a pillow over my face. Yeah. So I am not a fan of the pillow. So I would say it's like, yeah, you're like, oh, there's things you can do, but they're not good. Like the best thing you can do, the best thing that the world or society could do is get the fuck over being uncomfortable about hearing some sexual noise versus, hey, it if it was some other noise, like I don't know, the TV or a hammer or a like, you know, someone we talking on the phone to someone else in in uh their apartment, like we don't okay, whatever. You might have some some uppity person that calls the management company with every little stupid sound. But but for the most part, it's like who okay, who cares?

SPEAKER_03 20:10

Yeah, I mean, here's a here's a good example. This apartment we're in, where we're recording this, that we live on a hill, and we will, if we have a window open, we'll hear a motorcycle or a car or an ambulance go up the street and it's accelerating and it's making noise. You think those people are thinking, oh, I better go slowly up this hill so I don't disturb anybody? It's the same kind of thing. We get in our heads about sexual noise, but we don't about driving or about using a power drill or about Right.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

I gotta fix something under the sink. I'm going to have this I'm gonna bang around on these pipes.

SPEAKER_00 20:44

Right.

SPEAKER_01 20:44

We don't have we don't really think about that, right? You might have like a a people pleaser, uh pretty tough people pleasing situation think about that. Nobody else is thinking about that.

SPEAKER_03 20:54

Right.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

You know?

SPEAKER_03 20:55

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 20:56

And and the plumber who came in to do the job, if if you're it's not a DIY.

SPEAKER_03 21:00

They're making noise.

SPEAKER_01 21:01

He doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, like that. That's his job.

SPEAKER_03 21:03

We live in apartments, we hear that all the time. We hear through a wall somebody's having to do something.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

So I mean, best case scenario, you live in a place where you either are like us in this other apartment, there's no, you know, children in our apartment, and just other tenants in the other apartments, we don't give a fuck. Like if you hear us like, you know, whatever, this is our apartment, we're doing our thing, you know, you can go fuck yourselves if you hear us.

SPEAKER_04 21:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

In terms of like if you have your own house with no shared walls, like, okay.

SPEAKER_04 21:38

Right.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Like, sweet, right? You know? And if you don't, you know, yeah, that that gets tough, but it's like, man, we are such a suppressed people as a as a whole, of of no wonder we're all in sh sexual shame. We can't it it's it's like it's like taking a shit. I mean, we you know, we go in the the Bathroom, we shut and lock the door, we try not to make like okay, that's a better example. Not taking a shit in your house. Okay, maybe like what I didn't think you did that in Target or something. Like you you like go in there, you're so shamed that you even have to take a shit in in public or in the store, right? But you you're like, I gotta, you know. And you go in there and you shut this like little wimpy door that you get hardly any privacy with, right? And you just like sit there in complete shame and try not to make any noise shitting. How realistic is that? And you're like banging on the toilet paper thing, like maybe this will make the sound. Maybe I maybe I should turn on, maybe I should talk at the or turn on turn on uh the fucking like our podcast while you're like or turn on you're on Marco Polo with someone or like listening back to the volume on our podcast. Listening back to, you know, it'd be weird if you turn on music, but like just something, right? And you're just like, what can I do to, or can I, okay, I know someone else is in the bathroom with me. Can I hold this until that person leaves, or maybe I'll wait until they leave their stall. Or one of my tricks is till is is when they flush their toilet. I'm like, oh, they're not gonna hear this. Or then they get out of the stall and they go and they're washing their hands. I'm like, okay, that's that's fair game time right there. That's fair game time. Like, they're right, it's like, who's so fucking shamed about even just being human and taking a shit? Right? Like, I get it. I get that we are also shamed with having this out-of-body, uncontrollable, orgasmic experience. But like, literally, how do you want to have joy in your life?

SPEAKER_02 23:35

Like, do like these are human and your bathroom example is so good because it's like they were just in here taking a shit.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

No, they were just peeing, babe. No, this is these are upstanding women who will not shit in Target. Like, they are like, I can't believe I had to go into Target and go pee. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 23:56

I remember reading some some interview with some famous person, and and they were like, and they were being asked about fame, and and the person said, Well, it was a real eye-opener to me. I was in a grocery store and I had toilet paper in my car, and somebody looked at me like, You shit? You use toilet paper. No way. They they idolized them to this extent that they didn't think they were regular people. So it's the same thing. You know, no, I know. But and you know why we all do it.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

We've all been there because there is scientific evidence that you can't walk into a Target and I mean 20 minutes later, you need a shit. I think it is it Target specifically or just shopping? I don't know. Wow, I think it's Target. I literally think it's Target.

SPEAKER_03 24:37

Target is tedious.

SPEAKER_01 24:39

I know. Well, no, they're just they're just committed to your regular We can't stay away from Target though, but if you are having regularity problems, it's like, hey, maybe grab a coffee and go walk around Target. Like, I'm just saying, but like, dude, we can't take a shit.

SPEAKER_03 24:54

We gotta check Target's mission statement.

SPEAKER_01 24:56

We can't be human, like, you know, we can't be human, yeah, and we can't take shits, we can't have orgasms throwing up. We're like so sorry for the person who's seeing us. We're so sorry. Like, I've been there, I'm like, oh my god, please leave. I'm so sorry. Like, I'm human and I'm throwing up. Oh my god. Like literally, man.

SPEAKER_03 25:17

Like exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

And of all those things, think about how ridiculous is it.

SPEAKER_03 25:22

Of all those things, sex is the least gross. Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

Well, but it's the most shame. It's probably straight. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:31

But when I when you think about it, I'd much rather have sex in front of somebody than take a shit from them.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

Well, we're bringing an exhibition as of all of all of that, but And we have an episode on that, so go check that out. I mean, yeah, it's just ridiculous, though.

SPEAKER_03 25:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

But I'm not saying we have great answers for how to just step over into the other side of the room, just throw the curtain back and then. No, this is a raising awareness of it. But I will say we need everybody over there.

SPEAKER_03 26:08

Right.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

We need it. It's it's a party.

SPEAKER_03 26:10

It's a party. It's loud and fun and fascism. It's a loud moaning party.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

Screaming party.

SPEAKER_03 26:17

Screaming party, yeah, especially for you.

SPEAKER_01 26:28

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