Piece Of Mind Podcast
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Piece Of Mind Podcast
Ep 24: Laura Grady On Unlocking Your Power: Manifestation, Mindset, and Intuition
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Today’s episode is packed with insights on mindset, intuition, and manifestation. Laura Grady shares her journey from self-sabotage to empowerment, providing listeners with actionable strategies to unlock their potential.
• Laura explains the connection between mindset and manifestation
• Discusses the importance of intuition in making life decisions
• Differentiates between coaching and traditional therapy
• Highlights methods for connecting to one's inner self
• Emphasizes the power of reframing negative thoughts
• Offers practical tips for effective manifestation
• Hilarious rapid-fire segment revealing personal insights
• Encourages listeners to trust themselves and reclaim their power
Hello and welcome back to the Peace of Mind podcast. Today is another guest episode. I love these guest episodes because I just feel like there is so much value in conversation and listening to other people and their wisdom and their story and their journey. Today's guest is the beautiful Laura Grady. So she focuses on manifestation that works. She focuses on releasing self-sabotage to unlock your power, and her area of expertise and how she helps people with these things is through hypnosis, psychology, energy and subconscious shifts. Laura has been coaching in the online space since 2017. She has also completed a psychology degree and we really discussed that in the podcast.
Speaker 1:What we go over in this episode which I think you will absolutely love, by the way is the power of NLP coaching. So, like I said, laura has done psychology, but she's also done NLP, and we really discuss and understand the difference between coaching versus traditional therapy. We also go into connecting to your intuition how to connect to your intuition, what the fuck that even means, and explained in a way that's actually beneficial to you. We talk about building stillness and overcoming trauma to find peace. We go over the importance of trusting in and listening to your body and, of course, we go over the power of manifestation, how to use it, how to implement it, where you could be going wrong, everything that you can possibly need for manifestation. And then we finish up the episode with a hilarious rapid fire questions round.
Speaker 1:You guys, we laughed so much, it was so fun. You have to get to the end of this episode to be able to join us, because I think you will also have a giggle. I think you're going to love this episode, so let's get into it. As I said in the introduction, we have an incredible guest coming to chat to us today. I'm so excited that you're here. Laura, can you do a little bit of an introduction? If people do not know you at all they've never heard of you, never met you tell us a little bit about you.
Speaker 2:Let us get to know you Hi well, thank you for having me. I'm so honored to be here. You let us get to know you. Hi well, thank you for having me. I'm so honored to be here. My name is Laura Grady and I am a coach. I'm a mindset coach. I've done business coaching and I really do work with people to effectively live their best lives right. So like that's the main purpose, and however that shows up is different. So I've worked with clients surrounding a lot of their subconscious mind, shifting the way that they see themselves, the way that they talk to themselves, so that they're able to achieve better results in their life. So that might be in the business space, that might be in their careers, that might be in their relationships. It's in a lot of different areas, but it's really powerful work, and I'm a massive fan of manifestation too and interweave that with all the work.
Speaker 1:so I know she loves manifestation and as soon as I was getting her on the podcast, I was like well, we're absolutely talking about manifestation because I need to know exactly how do I do this, what is the process, what are the steps. So we are going to be getting into manifestation at some point in this podcast. I would first just really be interested to know what made you get into coaching, like how long have you been doing it and what was the point where you were just like this is something that I could see myself doing? What actually like, what actually encouraged you, or you encourage yourself, to be like let's go, I'm doing this.
Speaker 2:So I've been in this industry for a long time, so I've done a lot. I so I've been in this industry for a long time, so I've done a lot. I got into the industry I think like 2017, 2018, might've even been a little bit earlier than that yeah, it's been a really long time. I became a coach before it was cool. So it became cool a few years ago and I was in it well and truly before it became cool. But what really interested me about coaching was the different ways that you could help people get results. So when I was a lot younger, I did a lot of acting. So I've always been interested in how people think and how they see the world and what makes people people like, what makes them tick, what makes them who they are and why people act the way that they do and how they interact with the world. I've just been always consistently fascinated with it, and so I was in the acting space for a while and did a few tv shows here and there and went to America, which was a whole thing and came back and yeah, I know crazy and then I started I'd started a psych degree as well. I know this is like. This is why I've done a million different things, started a psych degree as well. I know this is like. This is why I've done a million different things.
Speaker 2:Started a psych degree, hated it like fully hated it Eventually, went back and did it Now, finished it it's all good, but did hate it initially and then went into a business degree. I was doing a business degree and when I did that, I came across NLP and no one that I knew had done it and I just felt like, just like you know, it's one of those divine intervention moments where you're like I need to do this and I thought at the time I, like my logical mind was like you need to do this to learn how to communicate better with people. This will help you communicate and to make people understand your, like, what you're trying to say to them. Um, and so I joined that and it was really transformative, worked with coaches. It was life-changing for me. And then, because of that, I went how do people not know about this? And it kind of shocked me that, you know, really simple shifts could happen and it could change your whole life, because it really changed my whole life, you know went in there as a bit of a victim and came out feeling completely different. So it was amazing in that sense.
Speaker 2:And then, from that place, I just continued to do more and more study. I started working with clients and you know I've worked with clients from all things like body image, self-love, confidence, anxiety. You know, people wanting to achieve a lot, a lot of high achievers. I've worked with clients in the business space, helping them with their businesses. I've worked with clients across so many different areas. So, yeah, it's been a really remarkable kind of journey.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that you had got in the industry so long ago. To be honest, I didn't know it had been so long, which is very, very cool. You said that when you were going to do like you got into NLP and it really helped you, you said I went into it as a victim and I came out like it had changed your life. Can you kind of give us a bit of a, give us some detail about what that transformation was for you and how do you think that actually came about?
Speaker 2:So I thought. I honestly, genuinely thought that life just happened to you, just bad things just happened to you, and you just don't have a say and you don't have any choice and don't get me wrong, bad things do just happen to people, right? But I also think that it brought. What came out of it was me going. I actually have a lot more power than what I thought I did and I went because I have more power and I have the power of changing my perspective, because, even if it does happen to me, I can change my perspective. It was freeing, it was completely freeing, and that, in and of itself, I was just like this needs to be shared more. This is.
Speaker 2:This work is so powerful, it's so important and, like you know, I'd done, I'd seen psychologists, I'd done therapy.
Speaker 2:You know I went through these typical experiences um a few years prior and you know it kind of similar experiences that most women go through of like struggling with their body image and, you know, treating their body like crap and just not being kind to themselves and being with men that weren't good to them, and I had all those experiences too, and I feel like this work completely changed my life and made me say that, no, I have more choice, I have more autonomy, I have power.
Speaker 2:I have the power of perspective, shifting my perspective. And if I want to do something, if I want to achieve something, create something in my life, I absolutely can do it. And so it was freeing. It was like, yeah, I kind of I don't know how weird people like to go, but it honestly just felt like divine intervention that I was even there at that time and that, yeah, I just I think back to that and I'm like, oh, it's amazing that I and that, um, yeah, I just I think back to that. I'm like, oh, it's amazing that I took that leap. It is a real logical reason.
Speaker 1:Please also like bring the woo-woo, please bring the woo-woo. I don't know how far I can take this. I'm like bring it all, bring everything to us.
Speaker 1:I love it, in your opinion, like when it comes to you said I did traditional psychology and I did all of the things and it wasn't till kind of this point that I was able to be like you know what I have more control over my life than I, than I think and really empowered you to go after your life. What, in your opinion, do you think is the difference between, like traditional going to psychologist, going to a therapist, to NLP or coaching, or what you did that was actually able to kind of get you to this place of like I actually can go out and do what I want with my life and I feel like I'm capable of doing that?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I think that, like psychology and therapy is just amazing. It's it's such a beautiful, such a beautiful space and there's so much good and there's also so much harm. The same way, in the coaching, there's so much good, so much harm, like it's all things exist, um.
Speaker 2:With psychology, the, the difference that I found, and I have found with clients as well, is that when I'm working with clients as a coach, we're working toward a goal. It's very much goal orientated, result orientated, and we don't necessarily deep dive into the darkness or the pain of the past. Unless it's directly related, right, we will, to kind of get a lay of the land, but for the most part we don't need to do that as much. Whereas I do think that therapy, yes, there are goals and I think there's more goal-orientated work now in the, in the way that people practice um, but you know it, it's not necessarily as much goal as it is. Let's untangle the things that have hurt in the past, right. So, like it can be different. Don't get me wrong. There's a lot of goal-orientated psychologists out there. Please know that. I know that. I'm well aware of that, no-transcript. They kind of work on a much more broad scale and they cover a lot more that you know. Coaching just doesn't have the capacity to do.
Speaker 1:What led you? You said you do a psychology degree and you've done a business degree. Who are you?
Speaker 2:I started, that didn't finish.
Speaker 1:It didn't finish that one. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean like that wasn't a fan that's a lot.
Speaker 1:I was not a fan it's also so, so funny that at the start you like didn't start a psychology degree, hated it, and I was like literally how I'm feeling right now yeah, it's pretty like it's because's because I think that they're just trying to wean people out, because you've got to be really serious.
Speaker 2:I feel like everyone wants to be a psychologist the same way everyone wants to be a coach like we can kind of liken it to lots of different areas Like everyone wants to do it, but the reality of it is that there's actually a lot of difficulty that can come with it. Can come with it not always, and I do think that, like the first year or two of a psych degree is like they're just trying to wean people out.
Speaker 1:Well, they nearly got me out.
Speaker 1:I am like I've had so many moments of just like I don't want to do this. Why am I doing this? How does this relate to what I want to do? I have had so many moments of like questioning why I'm doing what I'm doing and having to keep bringing it back to like the bigger why and the bigger picture and what I actually like plan to do. But in the moment it's so hard. But I actually really like what you said then. It's like in that first year is about kind of weaning people out, because you do want people who are really helping people with like trauma or their mind or, you know, their brain, like all their nervous system. You want those people to be dedicated to truly want to be doing what they're doing it's really hard.
Speaker 2:My brother's doing his master's right now and it's like it's hard, yakka, he's masters in psychology. It's hard, yakka, he's not. It is not easy. They do not make it easy for you, but like it's not not such a bad thing again, because it's it's like the impact that a psychologist can have on a person's life is so huge and so enormous and it is such an honor to even have people to trust you enough to go there. So you know it has to be tough, it has to be difficult and you've got to be well read. And I think like that's half of the battle for a lot of people when they first start the degrees, like how much reading you've got to do and you know yes it's a lot, it's a lot it's amazing, though it is amazing, it's a lot.
Speaker 1:Put it to me, well, I can't, can I even say it's amazing right now. I can't say it's amazing right now, but I know there's going to be a point in time when I look back at this moment and I'm like so glad that I stuck it out. It is amazing, but right now I'm really like it's just a hard slog obviously, like I am having to go through. All of you know the degree and lots of things that I maybe don't think are necessarily relevant for me to be able to help people, but probably relevant to me as a person in being more resilient and disciplined and all the different things, and I am going to take away so much from it in the hope that I can, you know, help as many people as I can and more people in the coaching industry not very regulated people can kind of just say I want to be a coach, like.
Speaker 1:What are your thoughts on that, especially being like a mindset coach and and having done a psychology degree and then ultimately still choosing to become a coach rather than a psychologist? What are your thoughts for people? If most of the people that are listening to my podcast are they're not coaches. Usually some are coaches, but even if they're coaches, they're still coaches that want to work on their mindset, or everyday people that want to be better versions of themselves and work on their mindset. What advice would you give them going into a coaching industry, looking to pick a coach, to ensure that they're actually in the safest hands to be able to do what they want to do and actually help them with?
Speaker 2:what they want to be helped with. With the coaching industry there is, there are so many problems and I could go on a rampage about how many issues and how many problems there are. Um, but at the core of it, you know, people are entering the industry because they want to help people and I think that that's really admirable and I really love that. But if you are coming to kind of try and find someone to work with, I would just be mindful and have a conversation with the person if you can. So if that person is not willing to converse with you, if they're not willing to answer your DM, if they're not willing to speak with you, like to me it's a bit of a red flag.
Speaker 2:Everyone's different, but for me, like that wouldn't feel good if I have never spoken, I've never had an interaction with a person. Get a bit of a vibe off of them, really see if you connect with them, click with them and get a bit of a vibe off of them, really see if you connect with them, click with them and you know, I think you might want to find out about what they've learned and what they've studied and where they've studied it. But if that's not important to you. That's okay too, I think. Just use critical thinking and remember that your coach is not God you are, so you are your own God. You are your power. You know so much. We're just here to help you uncover more of your power, and so I hope that that sticks with you, not you know, because it's easy to get kind of caught up in the wrong crap.
Speaker 1:It's very easy. I think that's so beautiful. What you said then, though, is like you are your power. I feel like sometimes, people can think that they're going to go into coaching, or even psychology or having a therapist, and think that I need saving, and this person's going to fix me, and this person's going to like. What would you say to people? That kind of go at it with that kind of mindset of like I'm going to hire this person and they're going to fix and save me?
Speaker 2:I have really honest conversations with my clients about this, where they will have that conversation after working together. Being like you completely changed my life. You blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and they say you did this, you did this, you did this. And I'm like, please take some responsibility because, as much as I have been here every step of the way, I have facilitated you doing this, you did it for you, you changed your life, you were willing to do the work and go deeper.
Speaker 2:Yes, I held the space for it. Yes, I probably helped phrase things in a different way. Yes, we probably did a hypnosis session that completely changed your world, or breath work, or added in some nervous system regulation tools that changed your life. Or in the business space, I helped you with a marketing plan that you wouldn't have come up with right On your own, potentially. But at the same token, I didn't do the work, I helped you do the work. I was an aid, I was a guide. I didn't drag you, you. We walked alongside one another and you know I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't like to be pedestaled and like in that way. It makes me very uncomfortable. So I do not like it because also, you know, I kind of look at it like I don't want to look at my coaches and think that they did it all because they didn't. I did it right. You're in charge of your own life, so these people can be so powerful, and working with the right person for you at the right time can completely change your life. There is no two ways about it, and I do think when the student's ready, the teacher will present themselves, and that's always what I have believed to be true. But just know that you always hold the power and no one's doing anything for you, and if you ever feel like a coach is taking responsibility for how you've changed your life, run because they didn't do it why was I not expecting you to just say run.
Speaker 1:You're like. I'm like and you'll literally run away, just actually leave that situation well, it's just.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's a healthy way to see it, because that's also like, that's just it's ego. I'm not doing it for you. Oh my gosh, could you imagine? No, no, no actually imagine.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, I don't know why. I thought that was so funny. I'm very interested. You did kind of say then that you've worked with lots of different people for lots of different reasons when it comes to their mind, professionally and all the different things like professionals and things. I'd love to know from someone who has worked with so many people and been doing this for so long what are some kind of like common things that you see with human behavior and things that humans struggle with that you think would be beneficial for us to know.
Speaker 2:I think it's beneficial to know that if you are constantly and chronically overthinking, you're probably really dysregulated. So you probably need to learn how to create safety in your body and what makes you feel safe. That's one thing, because a lot of people, when they are constantly overthinking, they think I need to deal with the thoughts, not deal with how my body's feeling when I'm thinking the thoughts. But oftentimes the body's responding before the mind has even recognized it. The mind's like seen a trigger or you know we've responded to some sort of a trigger and your body's responding really quickly and then we start to overthink. From that point, and most people, and especially in the coaching world, the mindset coaching world the solution is go to the thinking first and I'm like, yes, and body then straight into the thinking.
Speaker 2:Because if you look after the body, you'll actually be able to see rationally again. The thinking, because if you look after the body you'll actually be able to see rationally again. And you know when we're super dysregulated, any kind of rational thinking, it is going to switch off, like immediately it's going to switch off. You're not thinking rationally, you're not seeing clearly, you're completely cut off from your intuition. And I work with a lot of clients who want to build their intuition, even a lot of coaches, specifically, who want to build their intuition, you know, in business or with their clients as creating safety and knowing how to create that within the body.
Speaker 1:So that's one thing there's so many though You're like there's actually so many. But now that you've kind of said the word intuition and that's what you help people with, can you tell us, like in your words, what you think intuition actually is, and can you give us a bit of a rundown of, like, how do you help someone connect with their intuition? What does it even feel like to be disconnected from your own intuition? Ah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:So I didn't say this before, but I also worked as a psychic medium for a while there. I was training in that world too for like three years or so, so yeah, and then I kind of gave it away. I had a family member pass away and it was very tough and I just kind of went I'm not into this anymore, but I still use it with clients. So it's all the things that I have learned in that space I definitely use with clients. So, in terms of your intuition, your intuition is like that little voice within you and it's usually quite uh, dull and soft, um, but it is that voice and it's kind of like your soul nudging you to where you've got to go. So it's, it's very, very subtle and it is not like it, you know. I kind of liken it to this right. You know your intuition is speaking to you. When you are the calmest you can be it's probably just before your head hits the pillow at night and you have a message come through and it might be like um, you know it, just a knowing right and knowing. I've had clients who've had this experience where, like you know, they're really calm, everything's going well, and then they've had that knowing something's not right with my partner and like they know that, and then a couple months later, something has come to pass. So it's like that really subtle, subtle feeling within the body and subtle even talking within the body. But it's this knowing about what's going on and our intuition is kind of like. I liken it to the same as confidence, the same as anything. It's a muscle that you build over time and your intuition is always there.
Speaker 2:It's just that for most people it's they're not connected to it at all because they're so busy and they're doing so much.
Speaker 2:And when we want to be connected to our intuition, we have to do less and be more so we have to be still all right. So that means no phones, that means not being on social media, that means not, you know, reading books or doing whatever it's actually like. No, I need to sit in presence, and that might be going for a walk and just being really slow, and, you know, smelling the flowers and listening to the birds chirping and just being in that state. And I find that for a lot of clients, if they are coaches or if they're in, if they're in a creative space, that is the time where all of the drop-ins and the downloads come because that's creating space. Your speaking to you and your intuition is kind of like the connection to the universe too. You listen to that more often. I can guarantee you, wherever you want to go, you're going to get there 10 times faster because it's alignment that was so like, oh no, that helps.
Speaker 1:Honestly, that helps so much. And I think it's just interesting for people, like, if you're listening to this, to check in with yourself and be like, how much stillness do I actually give myself in my life? Like when I have a moment to just be, do I pick up my phone, do I feel like, oh, I need to read those 10 pages of that book because I've committed to this 10 page thing of reading 10 pages, like it's not necessarily saying that the things that you're doing are negative. Like, obviously, reading is very good for you and they're going to be listening to a podcast can be very good for you, but there is nothing better for you than actually learning to be still and I think it's one of the hardest things. Like that's something I struggled with so much.
Speaker 1:Like I personally have had, like a lot of trauma in my life and things like that. So yeah, my kind of coping mechanism with trauma was like busy, like I'm gonna either be on my phone or I'm watching tv or I'm talking to a client or I'm like I'm always I'm being like I'm busy, busy, busy, busy, and that actually, as much as it was like felt like chaos or cause stress, it kept me safe from having to face my own thoughts of my own like trauma and things like that.
Speaker 1:So it was really hard. If someone is kind of struggling with stillness and giving themselves that stillness, what kind of advice would you give someone in that instance?
Speaker 2:Well, it depends right, because if you have like similar to you, if you have a really strong history of trauma and you've been through a lot and you've seen a lot, then you've got to build it up over time, right, like going in and me being like go meditate for an hour, you're going to punch me in the face and, as you should like, if anyone tells you to do that, if you've experienced trauma and you're like I want to connect to my intuition and I want to practice stillness and they say just sit and be. No, no, because they don't understand trauma, they don't understand how it works, right, so no, I'm always a big believer in like you have to actually build your tolerance to it, because it is a tolerance, right, it's that building the muscle. So my recommendation would be okay if you're used to doing a lot. So, for example, with you, ash, I'd be like you're used to doing a lot, you're used to, you know, running around quite, you know quite a lot and being all of the things and doing all of the things. So I'd be like, okay, I'm going to let you still be all the things, not that I'm in charge of you, but like let's still create that scene of letting you do and be all of the things, but instead of listening to a podcast when you go for a walk and having your phone out and doing all of the things, I actually just want you to spend five minutes with your headphones out, walking and just noticing how it feels to have your feet hit the pavement. That's it, five minutes. You can have a timer on your phone and if you find that there's lots of thoughts that come up, you find that you get really overwhelmed.
Speaker 2:If you're like this feels really uncomfortable to sit with it and to breathe through it, I'm safe. It's okay to be. Still. I'm safe, I've got me so something like that. But also one thing that I do in my one-on-one with my one-on-one clients, and even more than that when I work with groups as well and this is, you know, stuff that I do with people who want to manifest more and connect more to their intuition is we practice a lot of breath work. I do hypnosis with them, like we do lots of deep, deeper work so that you can create safety in being so it's. It's one of those things where you have to honestly train your body to feel more comfortable with it, the same way that before phones existed. We had to train ourselves to get comfortable using the phones.
Speaker 1:Like it's just the opposite now I can't even imagine a time without my phone. Yeah, I'm kind of like sometimes I wish that it's so crazy how your phone can be so addictive. But I loved all of that advice so much and it's just like I think it's really nice to hear someone and hear someone that is a coach really have that it to me. When I'm listening to that I feel like that just felt really gentle, like it felt like it was possible for people. I sometimes feel like when we're consuming so much online and we're so lucky that there is so much information now about mindset and psychology and all those different things, like truly grateful that we get to have exposure to that and you know we have, we know so much more that now, like I can't even imagine if my mom said the word dysregulated be like what the fuck? Like like that generation, yeah, have access to all this information.
Speaker 1:But I guess sometimes the downside with that is it can kind of come across like you have to be doing this and you have to be doing more and you have to like meditate. But it's not taking into consideration people's personal experiences and obviously we have to use discernment when we're absorbing information online. But I really liked how you explained that of like just five minutes, just take your headphones out, just do this one thing, just try this one small thing, and it be very gradual. I think that that's a really good takeaway for so many people. I would love to know, when we're talking about intuition for you, when has been instances where you have listened to your intuition, and what has that kind of done for your life?
Speaker 2:I mean like every time I haven't listened to my intuition, shit's gone sideways. So I feel like there's that no, sorry, like the intuition. I mean intuition got me to become a coach. Intuition has landed me in the right spaces with the right people at the right time. I feel like you know, I can pinpoint like really specific experiences where I've had feelings about clients, about exactly like it's almost like this drop-in moment of they're struggling with xyz, thought this is you need to tell them that you know that that's what's going on, and I've sent them a message hey, this has come through and they've gone. I was literally just thinking that, right, so like those moments of just like full connection, um, and that's been really beneficial because it helps you see what people, what is underneath what people are saying, which obviously psychology teaches you and coaching does teach you. But you go a step further with intuition. You're not looking at it from a logical lens, because most of what's happening with humans isn't really that logical like it might seem logical, but so much is not, um, so it's helped me sort of see what people are saying without saying it. Uh, I've had, yeah, moments of just like I feel like everything, like I've had the right people coming through at the right time. The right clients come through at the right time, saying the right thing at the right time. Um, I'm trying to like pinpoint.
Speaker 2:I feel like meeting my partner was very intuitive because I met him. Well, I met him through a friend and a friend at the time and they were going out somewhere and I wasn't interested in going out and then I went no, I just feel like I've got to be there Met my partner. We didn't end up connecting. He thought I was with that friend, I wasn't with that friend. And then we ended up connecting and going.
Speaker 2:I know that was awkward I was with that friend, I wasn't with that friend, and then we ended up connecting and going. I know that was awkward. And then we ended up, you know, going on a date and now you know, six, five, six years later we've got a baby and we're living together and you know all those things. I have more stories of times where I haven't listened to my intuition and where it's bit me in the ass than times where I do, because intuition is kind of like breathing for me. I'm always looking for the signs, always tuning in and creating and practising that stillness as much as I can, because it makes me a better coach, it makes me a better partner, helps me manifest. You know, listen to the signs of the universe. It just also feels really fucking good.
Speaker 1:So there's also that Well, now I kind of need to know, like I need to know, a couple of times when you keep saying, like those moments where I haven't listened to my intuition, and when you're saying it, I'm like I feel, like I need to hear, I need to hear this when what has happened, when you haven't listened to your intuition, I have wasted hours upon hours with work stuff that I didn't need to waste time on.
Speaker 2:I have have hired the wrong people and then have had big blowups with staff. I have had friends betray me and deeply break my trust, like it's just so, and I felt that I knew that that was potentially there was a possibility of that. I felt that in my being and ignored it. So you know, in terms of the work thing I was trying to, this was actually when I was pregnant. They were lovely people, by the way, but I was like looking to hire somebody and I went with the hiring of them and I just said something doesn't feel quite right, but I'm pregnant, so maybe it's just that I'm pregnant. And I went yeah, it's probably just that I'm pregnant, because I was also so unbelievably sick when I was pregnant, it's not funny. Um, so I was like maybe it's just that I'm pregnant and you know there's nothing going on.
Speaker 2:And then you know, lo and behold, I ended up wasting like six weeks of precious time in pregnancy and basically got nothing out of it. And you know, it got funny with money, conversations and things went a bit pear shaped. It was all respectful, but it was just like what a waste of six weeks, like you know. Learned so much, learned to never not trust it again, like I have to trust the intuition, but honestly felt like a bit of a waste. And then, with friends, yeah, like had a gut intuition that you know some there was some nastiness going on behind the scenes. I had a pretty strong gut intuition and I didn't trust that and I kept kept just trying to fight for that friendship and yeah, it got completely like stabbed not stabbed in the back, that's probably not the right way to phrase it but I got really hurt by those people, like really deeply hurt. Um, and you know that's again me not listening to my intuition. That's that's on me.
Speaker 1:I needed to listen and it's a big lesson of like, if you feel it something is going on, never not listen, do you think a big part of intuition like listening to you kind of talk about that do you think a big part of intuition like listening to you kind of talk about that do you think a big part of intuition is also being able to trust yourself enough to listen to what's coming up, to listen to it and be like I trust myself enough to listen to this absolutely absolutely, um, when you and you can't trust yourself, when you don't know yourself, you can't be confident in yourself when you don't know yourself.
Speaker 2:You can't be confident in yourself when you don't know yourself, you can't feel that you're in your power when you don't know you. So you know, I'm a big believer of, like one of the biggest things if you want to manifest more in your life, if you want to have a smoother run, you need to trust yourself, because you can't trust the universe or your intuition, you can't trust these things and the messages that are coming through, if there's no trust for you. And you only build trust by doing things that make you trust yourself. So like actually not breaking promises and following through on the things that you say you're going to do. So if you say you're going to go to the gym, actually doing it, like not breaking that trust. You know those sorts of things are really really really important on like a granular level, but on a on a deeper level as well, practicing that muscle of building your intuition, like something that I say, especially if you are pretty intuitive already and you you're like okay, I feel like I'm intuitive, but I want to step more into it.
Speaker 2:It's like have a two or three hour patch if you can. If you're a mom, I get it. It might be tough to do this, but you might do it when the kids go to bed, who knows. But have like a couple of hours where you just you just don't have an agenda. You don't have to go to the gym, you don't have to read a book, you don't have to listen to a podcast, you don't have to read a book, you don't have to listen to a podcast, you don't have to do any work, you just go what do I feel like doing today? And you follow the niggles for that two to three hour patch and you just see where you end up.
Speaker 1:I love that so much and I think it's like for mums as well, specifically like we're both mums. I think sometimes there's this idea that you just have to be doing something, like because, as a mum truly, there is always something to be done. Sometimes there's this idea that you just have to be doing something like because, as a mom truly, there is always something to be done. Right, there's going to be clothes that need washing, there's going to be, if you, you have a baby, so maybe bottles that need to be cleaned, nappies that need to be put out for me, like washing the clothes, getting this for organ like there's always going to be something as a mom and you can fill your time like I've got to clean up, I've got to do up, I've got to do this, and I think there is so much.
Speaker 1:I don't even know how this has come about, but I know that so many mums almost feel lazy if they're not filling their time with something that they should be doing. Well, I'm not going to go and just hang out with myself when I could sweep the house and mop the floor and do the washing. It's like there needs to be. There needs to be time in your day or in your week where it's like you actually give yourself permission and you don't call it lazy and you don't feel guilty for it, where you actually do what you want to do, where you allow yourself to actually have that just be.
Speaker 1:I started to integrate. That was it last year, and this is when I was kind of like like everything that you just spoke about before was so funny because, like a year ago, I was like wow, I really never sit with myself like I'm always doing something like even if it's journaling, good for you still doing something, and I was like wow, I really never sit with myself like I'm always doing something, like even if it's journaling, good for you still doing something, and I was like I need to block out and if you only have an hour or a couple of hours.
Speaker 1:But I was like I'm gonna give myself Friday, like I'm fucking having Friday, that's great yeah. And I like blocked out my whole calendar of clients, like no client calls. I would drop the kids at school and I would kind of ask myself after I dropped the kids at school, like what do you feel like doing? Do you want to go get a coffee? Do you want to sit on the beach? Do you want to go home? Yeah, I would just allow myself to like ask myself what I felt like doing and then I would just do it. And it felt so foreign to me, especially being a mom since I was 18, and always like doing, doing, doing. It felt so foreign to me.
Speaker 1:But I truly believe that that has done so much for me over the last year of actually allowing myself that time and that space and that stillness, like you said, and listening to intuition, and I just feel like it has everything that you said. I feel personally that it has contributed to my life so much. So it's like if you are, if you are listening to the podcast, like take what Laura is saying seriously because it really does compound. It's not something that you're going to do one time and be like, oh my god, I'm like such a girlie who listens to her intuition, like it's compounding over time, but it truly will change your life and also you. Just you deserve it. Like moms sometimes feel like they don't deserve time for themselves, but like you deserve it, you deserve the stillness I just yeah, I need, I need to know manifestation, mate, like your stories lately guys, everyone go follow Laura on social media but your stories lately on the manifestation. But before I ask you about manifestation, what it is, how you use it, all the things that I really want to get into I'm really interested.
Speaker 1:Like you're quite an intriguing person because you did psychology, which is like a degree which is very like you know in the system, all the different things, yeah, but then you kind of dropped that. You did like the new NLP and then you like did psychic and I know you're quite spiritual because you're like I've seen your stories and stuff like that in your post. I know you're quite spiritual but you're like I don't know how much woo-woo to bring. Like you as a person, integrating all this into your being. You're so many things which is so beneficial, but like, how for you, integrating all of the things do you think is like bettering your life? Because you said at the start as well, I like helping people have a better life and all the things. Like, how do you like integrate all of those different aspects that sometimes make me feel like they don't match together, and bring them together into your life?
Speaker 2:well, I think that, in terms of the spiritual aspect of things I was having this conversation with my in-laws the other night I'm like I I have a belief, I have certain beliefs, but I am humble enough to know that I don't really know. So like I will believe in things because I see evidence of it in my own life, but but they're very tough to study and I understand that and I'm incredibly aware of that and I it's, it's, it's the curse of being so spiritually open and incredibly logically minded as well. It's beautiful. So it's like I'm a really optimistic skeptic, so I can be incredibly skeptical of a lot of things, and I do like to read studies and I like to understand, you know, what the latest literature is coming out, so that it is supportive of my clients. And how I operated five, six years ago is I'm like a different coach. You wouldn't even recognize me. And the reason why is because I've had to evolve, I've had to get better at my craft every single year, and that's, I think, one of the reasons that my clients, you know they get so much out of working together, because if I need to, I can put on the psychology. I will phrase it in a way where it is so logically minded and you will not hear the word spiritual universe come out of my mouth once Like I can do that.
Speaker 2:If I need to do that, I can do that. At the same token, if you're super spiritually minded, I can do the opposite. I can really meet people where they're at. So in terms of how it's kind of gifted me and given me so much in my life, I think I love that. I can understand a lot and I can comprehend a lot of what people are trying to say on both sides. So the really logical coaches and the really spiritual people. I can understand and comprehend both sides of it. But I kind of sit on the fence with all of it. So it gives me the understanding of like I just don't kind of adapt to, I don't adopt anything and think that that's the only way it keeps me really open-minded. If that makes the only way I'm very open, it keeps me really open-minded. If that makes sense, like I'm willing to try anything.
Speaker 1:No, I really do like that. I feel like that's quite cool though, because it's like you know, you do have the coaches that are just like, or like you know, the degree and the education, all those things, and that's so perfect because that's going to work perfectly for the right person. And you have the people that are very, very spiritual and and they've not really done any like big qualifications or anything like that, but they are perfect for the right person who needs that, or even just the right time for the right person, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, and you can see that integration of the two for the person who needs that at the time in your coaching. I actually think that is really really cool and I could see why you get so many amazing results for your clients now, because you get to meet them where they are with what they need, rather than you just be like, well, this is what you need. You're like, you can be quite fluid in how you deliver your coaching yeah, it goes against marketing, goes completely against marketing, but that's okay.
Speaker 1:Part of me, like the content creating business. Part of me, I was like how do you just like, how do you market yourself then on social media from a business standpoint of growing a business?
Speaker 2:yeah, I just market who I am, like, who I am and the spiritual side of it, and I kind of integrate all of it rather than make it one or the other, because I don't, I just don't believe it's one or the other, cause I don't think psychology can describe nor explain everything that goes on with a person. I think if it did, we wouldn't have coaching.
Speaker 1:I agree, I actually really love that and I agree with that actually so much. Like doing my degree now I'm actually so happy that I had the coaching experience first and the different ways of doing things. I actually am so happy and grateful that in my own life experience because I can definitely see how just just having psychology, I personally, like I don't plan to just use psychology if that makes sense, like I know that there are so many different aspects to humans and our behavior than, yeah, science and evidence-based like psychology when you study. I'm learning right now everything's very like evidence-based science evidence-based.
Speaker 1:if you don't have evidence, it's not like a thing. So, yeah, it's kind of interesting to have had the other perspective and now integrate this and kind of use that as well. We need to talk about manifestation, tell me, tell me like, okay, let's just say if someone's listening to this and they're like I literally don't believe in manifestation, don't know what it even means, what is? It sounds like you know. Woohoo, tell us, from your perspective, how you view manifestation and, yeah, what are your thoughts on it?
Speaker 2:So manifestation is to me a process of aligning your thoughts and your energy with the universe to create a result and to bring something into your reality. So it is just about you have a desire and allowing that to come in, and we do that through manifesting. Now, people are doing it all the time, whether or not they realize it. I say this with the you know, with the smallest thing of like, if you wake up in the morning and you wake up late and you go, today's going to be shit, that in and of itself is manifesting because you've made that decision in that moment, today's going to be shit. And then all of a sudden, oh, you're late to work, oh, you burnt your toast, oh, you've done blah, blah, blah. And then all of a sudden you get home. Oh, so bad, right. So in that moment we're being really unconscious with our thinking. But the same thing can happen with manifesting.
Speaker 2:So if we're calling something in, I, the way that I like to see it, is that there is a bigger force at play the universe. And if you don't want to believe in the universe, you can believe in yourself, in your own power. So, like, interchange this or God, right. Like I interchange the word I use universe but interchange the word with what feels good to you, because there's no right or wrong word. It's a theory, like everything. So we're calling in something. It might be something really big and this bigger force, the universe, it wants to bring it to you, but right now we might not be a match to what it is that we're calling in. So the process is about becoming an energetic match, aligning our thoughts and our energy, our beliefs, so that we have exactly what it is that we desire come into our reality. So I hope that that helps explain it, that really does very simplified.
Speaker 1:No, I really do love it, and I think it's really cool how you said like, if you think something like I think people like really don't understand the power of their thoughts like, if you think something, you are literally going to create it. You will create your reality by what you're thinking, and I really did the example of like you wake up, I'm gonna have a shit day. You will have a shit day, and it's really cool, though, to then like use that and use manifestation to even just be more mindful of, like, the language that you use and the things that you say and the, the thoughts you allow to kind of like come out of your mouth.
Speaker 1:And yeah, I am very, very conscious of that, like very conscious of language, very conscious of how I speak to myself at all.
Speaker 1:And it's funny because people find that woohoo, which I think is kind of funny because it's like it's actually really not, because if you think of the science of your brain, it's, if you want, evidence-based, that is literally evidence-based, but it's like it's so interesting because if you're like, oh, if you wake up and say to yourself or you think, you know, I'm going to have an amazing day, everything that I desire is meant for me and everything that I want is available to me, and you say those things to yourself, which are things I like to say to myself each day, you tell people that and they're like well, you think that's actually going to change your life and it's like, well, but actually it is. If you think that waking up each day saying to yourself, this is a shit day, nothing ever good happens to me, my life is hard, hard, I'm so unlucky, and you say all those things, whilst they might feel true and they might feel like your life is hard, continually telling yourself that is blocking you from something yeah better.
Speaker 1:Even just rephrasing the way you say things, I think can be really powerful. You have been talking about a little bit of a manifestation process which I would love to hear. If anyone listening is like I want to start trying to to manifest. But also I've seen your stories lately. You've been saying like I've been doing this, I've been manifesting and things have been happening. You guys, I also want to hear that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so well, I think I'll go like. First thing, I want to go back to something that you said before of like, if you make that decision, you know everything starts to come alive and we start to see evidence that things aren't going well for us and our days are bad and nothing ever works out and all those bits and pieces. And I, yes, I absolutely agree with that. And if you're kind of skeptical on this, I always say to people if I asked you to sit down right now and imagine your life, go to shit, like to picture it in your mind, to picture everything going horrifically wrong, your day going wrong, conversations with your boss going wrong, your business burning to the ground and not working out, and you pictured all of those awful things, your health taking a tumble, your relationship with your family taking a tumble Would you do it? And the answer, nine times out of 10, is hell. No, that's fucking insane. It's like, yeah, but manifesting is the opposite of that. So if we're so afraid of doing the negative, we've got to ask ourselves why it's like. Intuitively, we all know we're not doing that because it's not good for us. We can sense that doesn't feel good. It's not good for us. But the opposite is true is like actually imagining that things are going to go well and things are right can be really good for us.
Speaker 2:And you know, with the belief side of things, a belief is an assumed truth because we assume it to be true, because it's backed up by evidence. So right now, if somebody is listening to this and they're like I don't believe I can manifest, I don't believe I can be confident, or I don't believe any good stuff happens to me or you know random bouts of money or kindness or anything like that, I don't believe it can happen. I'm like, yeah, that's your assumed truth, based off of the reality that you're currently living in. It makes sense that you believe that because you haven't had that experience. I'm not here to tell you you shouldn't believe that. Look at it differently, just change your mindset. I'm like, no, you believe it for a reason. It's been your reality up until this point.
Speaker 2:But the question I always like to ask is do you want it to continue to be your truth? And is it true for everybody? Because if that is true for everybody, that manifesting doesn't work right or that doing this kind of work doesn't work, and that's absolutely blanket statement, absolutely true, then fine, go for it. But lots of truths can exist, and what's true for a lot of my clients is that, yeah, they use manifesting and people go on dates all of a sudden. Sudden they meet the right people, they have money, they have gifts come in, they have clients come in, they have work opportunities come through, like they have all of these incredible things happen. So it's just asking yourself okay, yeah, you can be really skeptical and go, it doesn't work. But is that a truth that you want to live by? Because if that's the case, by all means I'm not. I'm not here to argue your truth, I'm just here to help you question it. What do you want your truth to be?
Speaker 1:that's all so god, that was so good. I feel like I could tell the moment you got quite passionate. Then you're like no, this is like, this is something I'm passionate about and that how yeah, how good is that though? Like you can believe that. But you can also choose what you believe. And if you think, think that that way of believing is going to benefit you, then of course, like you believe that. But what if you did challenge it? And what if you did question it? What could be available to you? And I think I I'm actually someone who used to be such a skeptic, like if you said to me the word mindset, like five years ago, and like change your mind, I'd be like oh, oh yeah, just changing your mind's gonna change your life, like I would think it was like a crock of shit, which is so funny, but it's because I was willing to question my own thoughts, I was willing to challenge my own belief, I was willing to question the way that I was thinking, because it's like being skeptical wasn't really working for me.
Speaker 2:It wasn't actually really works yeah, I've had a lot of people who are in the, they work in the medical system and, like it's good, I want you to be skeptical when you're operating on my brain. Like that's great, please do that's fine, it's not a problem, right? Like, did you see what I mean? Like it works for different people. Lots of different ways of thinking work for different people. And you know, and even still, I think, where people, a lot of people, get tripped up in manifesting a mindset like they don't believe it's going to happen and they and they just completely lose faith in it and they go fuck this, I'm not doing it. Which, by the way, if you've been there, I get it. I've been there at different times and many clients be there at different times, but they are trying to change their belief systems. When they are so latched on and they that's like they have the heels dug into the earth and they're not moving with it. Right, it is so unbelievably true for them. So, for example, if somebody wants to date someone, they want to go meet their partner, but they've had horrific experiences with men. Right, they believe men are shit, men are bad, all men are bad. Right, if you have had awful experiences with men who might say to you just change your belief, babe. Just change it, you'll see a different reality. It's so basic, it's such a fucking basic way of talking and it's just so not an inclusive way of speaking about this work and changing your belief systems. It's just not going to work. And so I'm a big believer in like, okay, what can we do to loosen the belief up so you can see it differently? If, okay, what can we do to loosen the belief up so you can see it differently? If you loosen the belief up and don't get me wrong, like when I work with clients, we loosen beliefs up so they don't have to consciously do this, they don't have to think about it. It's being done with our hypnosis work, with the energy work they don't have, it's not as hard.
Speaker 2:But if you're on there, if you're listening to this and you're like I yeah, I'm seeing the correlation and I and I understand that this is something that I'm doing, let's just meet you where you're at. So, instead of it being all men are shit, it's like no, some good men are out there. I just want you to latch onto that for the next week. Where are the good men? All right, this man was smiled at me at the coffee shop and didn't try and pick me up. Great Good, there we go. There's an evidence of one good man, right. It's just like building up that belief.
Speaker 2:And then you, you bunny hop a little bit Again, you go a little bit higher of like, actually I see my friends in beautiful relationships. That is available, beautiful relationships exist, right, that's a little bit higher than all men are shit, right. And then it's just like you're building that up over time, week after week, and then all of a sudden you start to believe I'm going to meet someone. Right, and that builds gradually over time. Or you can do it in a lot more of a fast track way, which is what I do with my clients.
Speaker 2:But, like, don't be alarmed if you have to just build up your belief systems because you're manifesting all the time. Right, we're all constantly we're attracting things, whether we like it or not. But if we're more conscious of it, you'd be surprised at how much incredible stuff can come through. But you know more to the point of what you were sort of saying before, ash. Like the process that I've been using with people is really about manifesting on a smaller, granular level to build the trust with the universe and the trust with ourselves so that you can start to manifest the biggest stuff. Because if you have a lot of resistance AKA the doubts, the limiting beliefs, like you can be manifesting and calling something in, but it's hard to believe in something when you haven't seen evidence prior. It's like evidence stacking.
Speaker 1:Essentially, You're like this last half of this podcast. I'm like, can you just keep talking, because this is very fascinating. I think it's really good that you actually take into consideration what it would feel like for somebody else to just say, well, just don't believe that Like. If I'm like, all men are shit and I've had like really bad like relationship where I would have a toxic relationship and was treated badly. My dad, like this is literally my examples like my dad, who left when I was 10 and was an alcoholic and was abusive and da, da, da. And I've only had these experiences and I say you know what? All men are shit and you're like, well, you need to stop thinking that altogether, like it, kind of like.
Speaker 1:So horrible right, yeah, it's awful, it's and it's.
Speaker 2:And that, unfortunately, is why a lot of people get a bad taste in their mouth around manifestation, around mindset work, because it's just not inclusive, like I'm sorry that you've gone through that and that would have been hard to get yourself to the point of like feeling comfortable and content in being in a relationship and feeling trusting of that relationship and trusting of yourself within that relationship. That would have been hard, yucka, like that. There is no two ways about it. And yeah, I think that's one of the reasons why a lot of people, they do get disheartened and I'm like I understand it, like I understand when you're disheartened, I understand it and I'm still going to support you to see it differently. But we'll just work with where you're at, it's all good, like you can still. But the most skeptical clients come to me and they're like I want business growth, I want blah, blah, blah, blah, but like I don't fucking believe in all this woo, woo, I'm like great, that's all good, like you don't have to. You don't necessarily have to, but we just get to work with where you're at and you will find the results will shift, because how you speak to yourself will change, how you see yourself will change.
Speaker 2:And you know, I had a client finish up last year and when they came to me they were really struggling with the relationship with money. That was a big issue that they were having and they felt really uncomfortable. And it made sense because of their experiences in the past. And so we, to build that relationship connection, we did a lot of hypnosis, we did a lot of breath work, we went deep into this past and she came out at the end of it, one business completely changed and, by the way, we only did mindset, we did not focus on marketing. I didn't talk to her about marketing. This is all energy, this is all mindset. And we did all of that. And then she got to the point where she was booked out.
Speaker 2:So it's just, it just shows you, of like, how much you're unconscious, how much your belief systems are impacting the world around you. I liken it to wearing right now, actually wearing a pair of glasses. I liken it to that think about when you're not wearing glasses, can you see where you're going? If you need to go to the toilet, the goal is to go into the toilet. Can you see it properly? Like, for me, I can't. I'm, I have to wear them when I'm driving, it's like, is it hard to see where you're going? Yeah, so it's kind of like when you're, when you're changing your belief systems, you're upgrading and updating your glasses and you're getting the right prescription to help you see where you're going, it's really powerful what the heck?
Speaker 1:that is a fucking great analogy. I love analogies, I'm such an analogy.
Speaker 2:I use them all.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God, what a great analogy. Because it's funny, because I can relate to it so heavily, because if I fucking took these glasses off, you guys, I would be blind as a bat, which makes me very depressed, but like I couldn't, I literally physically couldn't see it. It's like if you liken that to, these are the like, what you can't see in your unconscious mind can't, we can't see it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can't see the goal. Like you can't see even the path, you can't, and it's like the intuition is leading you. You can't. You can't see that. The intuition is like the little signpost or the light switch, like you can't even see that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right when you don't have the right glasses on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's honestly like walking through the world blind and going why aren't I getting to where I want to go? Because it will feel like you're walking around blind. So that's manifesting 101. Yeah, I'm obsessed with that.
Speaker 1:I'm going to use that.
Speaker 1:Use it take it and we are living by it people. That is a really great analogy. That's been so helpful. This has been so helpful. I love the conversation around intuition and stillness and connecting back to yourself, self-trust manifestation, like all of these things, and I really, really really do love that you're listening to this and this is a cool thing about podcasts it's like all the people that are listening to this are going to be at such different places of their journey and believe such different things. But what you have highlighted so well is that, like, no matter what you're doing, you can meet yourself where you're at. You't. You don't have to, kind of, you know, take 20 steps ahead and change all this. Just meet yourself where you're at and take those baby steps, and I think that that is such a really cool takeaway and I'm so yeah, I really am so grateful for this conversation.
Speaker 2:I do have a couple more questions that I want to ask you that are a little bit more fun.
Speaker 1:We're gonna switch it up, my love, although like things get so fastisty, like towards the end there, like I do when you're getting feisty, you use like a different voice, like you're like, yeah, okay, just change your beliefs. And I was like I am loving this.
Speaker 2:I get very sassy with my clients, don't worry.
Speaker 1:I like was so about it. I'm like you should always like can we please always have this sassiness? That was really good. I really enjoyed that. Um, do you have a couple rapid fire questions for you? These are just really fun. First thing that comes to your mind and you just answer whatever that, whatever that is, are you ready?
Speaker 2:yeah, okay, death row meal oh, I know exactly what it is, but I can't eat it right now. Um, I would have a large double cheeseburger meal from Macca's. I'm just. I love Macca's. Oh, I love Macca's, but I can't eat it.
Speaker 1:I love it, it hurts my tummy you were the most surprising person to me. You were the most surprising. Such a like like I don't even know what the right word is to describe you, but it's just like you're so many, you're so many people in one.
Speaker 2:I really am. That's like that. That feels that feels accurate, that feels super accurate.
Speaker 1:I wasn't expecting maccas, but I love that for you. And also same like if I eat Maccas now, I'm like I need to be near a bathroom and that's disgusting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I need to sleep for like three days and I'll be really sore. My tummy will hurt. I'll feel gruggy, like I can't eat it now.
Speaker 1:But I do love it. You're going to die.
Speaker 2:You've gone after, so I can do it I can have 20, 20 burgers.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's so good. Next question is celebrity crush, boy and girl.
Speaker 2:Do you know what's so funny that comes into my mind? Please tell me. I'm a big reader. I'm a huge reader, so I love reading books, and I love reading like romanticist books. So I don't know if anyone is here, but like immediately when you you said it, I was thinking of a character from a book, not an actual person. Like immediately with the mail, I was like, oh, rhysand from Akatar, immediately, or Zayden from fourth wing. I'm like what is wrong with me? My brain just immediately goes to books, doesn't even think about an actual celebrity. Um, but if, in terms of like an actual celebrity, sorry.
Speaker 1:What were you gonna say? Like, send help to me. I'm actually wait. I have a question on that. Firstly, these people that you're saying these names I haven't read these books, but I know I've seen them everywhere and I really do want to read them. You gotta plunge. It's so good imagining. Are you imagining what they look like?
Speaker 2:or is there? Yes, and there's fan. There's fan art as well. There's actually fan art. There's fan art all over, like tiktok and stuff. Um, but no, you do imagine because they they. It's the same as anything like anytime you read a book, like you start picturing the characters because they give you descriptions, so you do picture.
Speaker 1:It is a just like a thing that you have a character, that you have the image in your mind of what you created, which is that I love that yeah, but also like in terms of an actual celebrity, like I'm not.
Speaker 2:I don't have celebrity crushes. I'm always like when they were the character in this film, but they have to dress as the character, which would never happen, tell us who is the character?
Speaker 1:What is a character in a film?
Speaker 2:Like the guy oh my God, the guy from Vikings. Have you seen Vikings, the TV show? Like the main guy, but as he has to be that character, like with the little plaits going on, the whole thing dirt all over his face like filthy perfect.
Speaker 1:the actual actor in real life, not interested no one's ever said I don't know why it's so funny, but you're like, only come into my presence if you look exactly like that fucking guy. Like no, truly that outfit on. No, they have to be that's what they have to be I'm fine. That's actually really funny. Yeah, girl, is there a girl character?
Speaker 2:I haven't really ever thought about the girl? Like I don't really have a girl celebrity crush at all, which is kind of wild to me. You need to think, because I'm thinking of like okay, what would actually be like I? I look at, like you know, margot robbie, I'm like she's so gorgeous, but I'm like they're all gorgeous, but there's no real like wow for me. You know what.
Speaker 1:But that's funny, just I'm not attracted to them. Maybe every single person I'm. I have to go back and listen, but I would nearly go as far as to say that every single person I've asked that question has said Margot Robbie yeah, which is an easy one to think of, and also, like maybe Dua Lipa as well, she's beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, julie but again it's not like a crush feeling like you know in your body when you're like, oh, I have a crush on that person. I don't have that feeling with them. I'm just like I'm just naming beautiful women at this point okay.
Speaker 1:The last question is if you could live anywhere, anywhere at all where would you live?
Speaker 2:Scotland in the hills. I want to live in a cottage in Scotland in the Highlands I can die there. No, I just want to frolic. I just want to frolic in fields. I think that's where I'm meant to be. I can't breathe.
Speaker 1:No, no, truly.
Speaker 2:Everyone finds it very strange, but I'm like no, no, no, that's where I'm meant to be. I'm meant to read books in a beautiful quaint little cottage. I'm meant to have my little garden and Jamie can go off and play golf. But that will be a goal when our children are grown. We only have one at the moment. But when we have fully grown children, that is going to be the goal. To live in Scotland, he'll just go play golf, I'll read books.
Speaker 1:it'll be amazing you're such a random person and I say that it like with so much love and it's such a compliment.
Speaker 2:I love, thank you. What about you?
Speaker 1:where would you want to live? Oh, my god, no one's ever asked me back someone. Actually, the last time we were talking about like who my, who my celebrity crush would be, and I was like I can't even think of a girl, which is so funny because I asked other people. My celebrity crush boy at the moment is Benson Boone, so oh, he's beautiful he's so cute.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's just so adorable and I think it's like, I think it's a real thing for me which maybe I need to look into. But I also like I'm like really, harry Styles does things to me for some reason, like watching him dance. Do you know what?
Speaker 2:maybe it's just a man that can dance like maybe that's where I'm at and when they're confident in it and they dress well like they dress they, like they can dress any in anything and like he can dress in really colorful clothing and just look amazing right, like I, just like it's energy.
Speaker 1:I think I'd be into someone so like rugged and manly. And I see these guys that are in like like lycra or whatever it is, and are dancing sexually and I'm like, stop, something's happening to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no. What is this?
Speaker 1:Mine is the opposite.
Speaker 2:I'm like into a rugged man.
Speaker 1:Oh, I've learnt.
Speaker 2:Keep the dirt on.
Speaker 1:Keep that fucking dirt on your face. Do not shower.
Speaker 2:You're filthy.
Speaker 1:keep that fucking dirt on your face, do not shower.
Speaker 2:That's so gross. I know, I know how it sounds, but I also it's good, we can't yuck anyone's yum right.
Speaker 1:I absolutely love this video. Like I just think it's brilliant. Uh, where would I live? Where would I live if I could live anywhere? Shit, that's so hard. Oh my god, I don't know if it really is how hard that question is. And I ask other people and they just answer so confidently and I'm like, shit, where would I live? I've thought a lot about it. I can. I can tell I need to think really hard about it.
Speaker 1:Okay, so the reason it's so hard for me to answer, if I'm being really, really honest, is because, like, I actually struggle to live in one location for a very long period of time.
Speaker 1:So, like, I have moved houses so many times and I just don't like I I feel like I've always made myself wrong for that of like, I always want to like move and I like new locations. But, honestly, what I envision for myself, if I'm being honest, is when my kids are older. I just envision me and Dave, which is my partner, just going and living wherever the fuck we want for whatever periods of time we want, like, oh, we're just gonna go, beautiful, and then we're just gonna go to like, well, like, just go wherever let's go. Let's go to London for a little bit and have a bin. Like you know, that's what I kind of envision. I see myself as like a, like a. I like to just explore and be different places, like I really want to get a caravan where the kids are like in school and travel Australia and see different beaches and park up at different places like that's like, that's my jam, so that's probably why I find it so hard to answer that question.
Speaker 1:But I, I will live. I'm going to live everywhere. Watch this space. Yeah, that's beautiful. I'm going to be voice messaging Laura while she's in fucking Scotland and I'll be just sitting around.
Speaker 2:I'll be making Jamie wear a kilt.
Speaker 1:No, I'm kidding. Thank you so much, my love. I have loved this conversation so much. You were such a gem and it's just been so interesting and so different, which is so perfect. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.