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Faith And Freedom | Special Interview | Lt. Col. Allen West
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We talk with Lt. Col. Allen West about why America’s freedoms depend on strong families, deep faith, and clear thinking about history. We connect the US Constitution, rising antisemitism, and national security to a practical challenge for Christians to stay grounded in Scripture and speak with courage.
• West’s upbringing, discipline, and early church formation
• Why natural rights and the Judeo-Christian foundation shape American liberty
• The First Amendment and why religious freedom comes first
• How “separation of church and state” gets misused in public life
• Why antisemitism is rising and how slogans replace history
• The danger of treating political pundits like pastors
• America’s internal drift as a threat to peace and security
• Islamism, Sharia, and the importance of studying history and ideology
• Iran’s proxies, nuclear ambitions, and why policy choices matter
• Israel’s role as a strategic ally and what’s at stake for freedom
• Responding to hate with calm truth and moral clarity
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Welcome And Guest Introduction
SPEAKER_01Welcome to Real Life Ministry, where we are dedicated to teaching and encouraging Christians to live free and live strong. Your host today is Ryan Rice, a Bible teacher, a pastor, entrepreneur, and a writer. Join us as we dive into various topics and how they relate to faith, values, and making a positive impact in America. Let's dive into it.
SPEAKER_00All right, guys, welcome back to another episode of Real Life Ministry. Today on the phone, we have uh Lieutenant Colonel Alan West. Uh Colonel, great to have you on the program.
SPEAKER_02Well, Pastor Rice, thanks so much for having me. And uh, I guess I live in the uh area where you once lived, and that's Garland, Texas. So it's great to have that connection.
SPEAKER_00Oh, it is. Yeah, I used to I had some life-changing conversations down down there on route, somewhere like uh Route 66 or that Highway 66 over there by the Sonic. That little Yeah. I met uh one of uh the guys who would be my executive pastor over there and convinced him. I drove in from Little Rock and convinced him to move out to Phoenix, Arizona with me to start a church. And he did. And it was at that little sonic right there where he said, Ryan, you have not given up on me coming out there to help you. So I will seriously pray about it. So had a lot of good time down there. So you serve as a Christian constitutional conservative combat veteran, former member of the U.S. Congress, born and raised, and as I understand, Atlanta, Georgia. That's right. Uh and so, and you have um you have uh quite a career in the Army, 22 years, is that right?
SPEAKER_0222 years, and uh I let some people shoot at me and they kept missing, but uh I I kind of slowed down, so I kind of retired. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Operation Iraqi Freedom, Desert Storm, and you had all sorts of uh uh uh numerous awards, Bronze Star, um Mator uh meritorious service medals, uh one with valor. And tell me about that. Like, so how do you uh I mean, my my guess is is that you just operated some in some fire and uh led a lot of men into battle.
Family Roots And Forming Faith
SPEAKER_02Yeah, look, uh I did what the American people expected me to do, uh, and I followed the footsteps of my dad, who was a combat veteran from World War II. Uh my older brother was a combat veteran from the Vietnam War. He was a Marine, and uh even my father-in-law, he uh combat veteran from Vietnam. So it's um how I was raised. And uh, you know, I you know, you talk to most of us, and we just say, you know, we were doing what was expected. So that's how I see it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I read your book just recently, Guardian of the Republic, and I really appreciate you taking some time, you kind of tracing back your upbringing, your military service, and your worldviews. Talk to us just for a moment about the impact your father and your your mother had on you, uh, to who you are today.
SPEAKER_02Well, without a doubt, they they raised me to uh dad. One of his favorite quotes was Um, you know, find out what the standard is and then exceed it. Uh you he never wanted you to see yourself as a victim. It was always about being a winner, being a victor. Mom, one of her favorite sayings to me was, uh, a man must stand for something or else he'll fall for anything. And people know you by the company that you keep. So it it was about uh discipline. Uh, you know, you always made up your bed. Uh it was about, you know, intellectual development and and being uh able to reason and and speak well and write well. Uh one of the things that uh I'd have to do at night at dinner table was to uh go over an Atlanta Journal Constitution uh story and kind of give them a summary as we sat there and ate dinner. So the the big thing was that I was very fortunate having two great parents in in the household. And when you look at so many kids in the inner city now, they they're not fortunate enough to have that. Uh you know, most of them, you know, come out of single-parent homes. So I had that great balance. And uh at the age of 15, that's when my dad challenged me to be the first officer in our family because he and my older brother were enlisted. Uh and on 31 July 19 uh 1982, 31 July 1982, I was commissioned as a second lieutenant uh in the Army. And uh that was a very special day for him. It was a special day for me because, you know, I honored the uh the goal that he set out before me. So, you know, they gave me the foundation, and when I look at myself as, you know, a young Christian man uh today, uh it was because of them. Uh they they saw how important it was. Uh I could not sing, I couldn't carry a tune, but I was in the youth choir. Uh and of course on Sunday you woke up and you did your your chores, you had your breakfast, and uh you were off to Sunday school and you were there. And so my early friendships were really the closest friendships, early friendships were those of uh my friends there at church. And and I just continued that way. And in January 1980, when I was a freshman at the University of Tennessee, I made that personal decision for myself because that's what I had to do. Uh mommy and daddy were not going to be there. And so uh I began my walk with the Lord, and you know, it's it's not not perfect. I'm a sinner saved by grace, and I think that that's important to understand that. But I know from whence my my blessings flow. And as Dave is saying, I'm just a man seeking God's heart.
Why The Constitution Still Matters
SPEAKER_00I love it, I love it. Well, you know, in your book, you talked about a lot of your roots and your upbringing and the importance of family and faith and ethics, and um, and you went on from the military, you've you were elected U.S. House of Representatives, Florida's 22nd congressional district, I believe it was. Um you served one term, 112th Congress. Um, you did a lot of stuff, and then you remained active, uh it sounds like, as public life, as executive director of the American Constitutional Rights Union, I guess. Um done, you you you've been a frequent speaker on faith, liberty, and national security, the future of America, um, and former chairman, Republican Party of Texas. Um, you your your your faith and your foundation has really positioned you well. Um, but for a moment, why don't I think you have some uh extraordinary knowledge of American history as well. How special do you believe the U.S. Constitution is uh of our founding fathers have forged in the country that we live in today?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, I mean, it's very interesting. We're celebrating the 250th year of American independence with the Declaration. And the Declaration starts off with you know, Jefferson basically quoting John Locke uh when he uh alludes to the laws of nature, nature's God, uh that's natural rights theory. And uh America itself is unlike any other nation because it was founded on a premise that the individual is sovereign because our rights come from a sovereign God. Our life, our liberty, our property, which Jefferson changed to the pursuit of happiness. So that that shows that Judeo-Christian faith heritage foundation is so integral to who we are, because as it says, I believe, 2 Corinthians 3 and 17, that the Lord is the spirit, and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. Amen. There is liberty. And and so that established this great nation. And so we must continue to honor and elevate God with the big G uh instead of government with the little G. And I think that there are some people who would rather uh invert that relationship uh between the individual and and and God and as opposed to the individual and government. So we've got to really, you know, get back to those those basic roots. And what the Constitution does, I always tell people the very first liberty that we have in our constitution, very first right, is the freedom of religion and the free exercise thereof, because the founding fathers knew how important that was. But is is we as Christians have to come back and study those foundational documents of this country and also understand the Bible because we are falling, you know, prey to this belief of you know separation of church and state. I mean, people that's not found in the Declaration, it's not in the Constitution. It was a letter that Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Convention of Danbury, Connecticut, because the Baptists kind of got a little paranoid and they thought that Presbyterians were going to get a leg up in the uh the establishment of this new country. But you know, Jefferson wanted to let them know that there would never be any established religion. But what we have come to allow the secular humanists to do is to try to separate our Judeo-Christian faith heritage from the fabric of who we are as America.
Antisemitism And Cultural Marxism
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and there's been a distancing that's been happening for a number of decades now in regards to that. And the school systems have become hotbeds for indoctrination, unfortunately. And um, it's really put America in a vulnerable position as from, you know, and and as a pastor, looking at the biblical literacy falling apart in our nation. There was a recent study I uh reviewed where San Francisco ranked the number one most biblically literate city in America in Phoenix, Arizona, where I pastor, uh number two. And so, you know, I I challenged our church, like you you need more Bible uh to be Christian, uh uh successfully navigating culture because the the left has so many uh uh educational uh uh accolades to pontificate uh and you know contend for what is truth. And and so there's this fight that is happening. And it does seem that you know Christians need to be very educated, you know, loving the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, and your mind. And that's where I really appreciate your work and your outspoken beliefs and and uh upholding uh Christian Judeo values. And on Judeo right now in American culture, antisemitism's at an all-time high. Why do you think that is?
SPEAKER_02Well, I I think it comes back to this uh new cultural Marxism that we're up against, and the secular humanists are definitely uh a part of that. Uh and Marxism is all about oppressed and oppressors. And what you see them trying to do is, you know, once upon a time it was based upon the the socioeconomic status, what have you, bourgeoisie, proletariat. But now they're trying to, you know, re-establish that based upon race. I mean, you see that with the DEI, but also you see that over in the Middle East, where you know all of a sudden the the Jewish people are the oppressors, and the people that are part of a terrorist organization like Hamas are oppressed. And they try to justify uh, you know, terrorist actions and things of this nature, and they vilify and they they show angst and anger against the Jewish people. And again, it comes back to understanding history and understanding that you know, this word Palestine, there's never been a country called Palestine. There's never been a quote unquote Palestinian people, there's no language, there's no currency, there's nothing of the sort. It's just a region. But yet, when you go back and you study in the early to mid-60s, when Yasser Arafat, uh the founder of the PLO, realized that he could tip this thing uh to his advantage if all of a sudden he tried to associate a land to a people which had never been done before. So now all of a sudden, you know, intellectuals in college and university campuses start to feel you know pity toward people that, you know, their their real goal and ambition is the extermination and elimination of the Jewish people. And when you read the Charter of Hamas, that's what it's about. Uh and it just hurts my heart to see that we have young people on college and university campuses in America that they don't even know what the charter of Hamas is. When people chant from the river to the sea, they can't tell you which river, they can't tell you what sea.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh it's just become a trendy thing uh to do. So I think again, it is so important that you know Christians, as it says in the Bible, I would bless those who bless thee, and I will curse those who curse thee. I don't want to be on the side of God's curse. Uh and so we need to articulate that uh and we need to be able to translate that into our foreign policy.
SPEAKER_00What do you think what's going on with Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, whom both I previously has have respected so much, and and um they're coming out against speaking about Israel, they're feeding into all sorts of conspiracy theories about the Jewish people and spreading all sorts of what I would call fuel for the fire of anti-Semitism.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, um it's I think it's two things. I mean, some people say follow the money, of course, but I think that lots of times people are always looking for sensationalism, relevance thereof. Yeah, and and I believe that's what, and again, it seems to be this this type of trend that is out there. And and this is not this is a bipartisan thing, if you want to put it that way.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and and so I I'm very disturbed about that and what I see because none of this is rooted in fact, none of this is rooted in in history. It's just some emotional trend that is going on out there where people think it's cool to be anti-Semitic and to speak out against you know the Jewish people. I find it very abhorrent. I find it uh uh very disconcerting that we have that happening.
SPEAKER_00Well, and I challenge as a pastor, I challenged our congregation. Don't don't hold up political pundits as your pastor and theologian. I mean, and even if you're gonna listen to their theology, you have to understand they're coming from a far more Catholic theological framework than they are Protestant, which by and large, the Catholicism has upheld the idea where the church has replaced Israel. And that that's where um so so Israel is an afterthought in God's big redemptive plan and purpose, and and all the promises have uh passed from you know unfaithful Israel to the church. And so I'm like, you're taking your cues from political pundits who really don't study Bible and theology, and they're Catholic, you know.
SPEAKER_02And and you know, when you when you think about it, uh I look at the Pope right now, some of the back and forth that's been going on. But you know, why isn't the Pope speaking out about Christians that are being slaughtered? Uh Palm Sunday, Palm Sunday this year, we had, I believe, about 26, maybe 30 uh Nigerian Christians who were slaughtered. And and why, you know, why are you not speaking out of about that? And you know, there is no defending an evil regime such as Iran that they they want us as Christians to to die. Or well, you you have the opportunity to to convert, or you can, you know, subjugate be subjugated, but you know, we we've got to have strong leaders within our you know ecumenical society and you know, pastors that have to stick to the word, yeah, and and you you say have to have that that perspective because there is evil in the world.
America’s Biggest Threat And Islamism
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. What would you say would be one of the greatest threats to American peace and security?
SPEAKER_02Uh the American people.
SPEAKER_00They they are the so it's like a Trojan horse, like an implosion.
SPEAKER_02Well, I mean, I think it was I think it was the pogo cartoon that said uh, I have met the enemy and he is us. Um we have strayed so far, and and this is just this is just 250 years of existence of this incredible constitutional republic, the longest constitutional republic the world has ever known. But I often tell people, think about America at 200, 1976, and what has transpired and happened in our country in the past 50 years. We have got to get back to rediscovering who we are. Uh, and one of the things I do find very um uh brings me joy, seeing these young men who are coming back to the church. And then and then not coming back to the church for you know woke Jesus stuff. They're coming back to the church because they want to be spirit-filled, they they want to have that foundation. Uh, and the church has to give it to them because it there's a void out there. And I think a lot of young people are starting to, you know, what the world wanted them to fill that void with is let them down. And so the the word of God has to fill that void. It's that god-shaped hole in the heart, and and we have to embrace that. So I I tell you that could this be uh a third great awakening coming about in in our country? I pray so. Yeah. Because I I think that the biggest enemy that we face is our is ourselves.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, I would agree. What what about what are your thoughts on Islam in regards to threat?
SPEAKER_02Look, it is it's it's a horrible, dangerous threat, but again, but again, it comes back to us. Yeah I mean, history tells us what this threat is, history tells us who they are. The word Islam means submission. Um, you know, people often say, you know, well, even Thomas Jefferson had a Quran. Thomas Jefferson had a Quran because he wanted to understand who the enemy was. And at the time it was the Barbary pirates.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And when he sent a letter to the Day of Algiers asking him, you know, why are you attacking us? Why are you, you know, kidnapping Americans? Why are you demanding ransom? We're not at at war with you. Uh, and you know, the Day of Algiers responded, we're commanded to do so. And in our in our book, our Quran, by, you know, our guy Allah and our His Prophet Muhammad. So when Thomas Jefferson read and understood who this enemy was, guess what he did? He sent the United States Marines. Okay. So, so, you know, when Barack Obama says Islam has always been part of the American fabric, yep, it has. It has always been attacking us. Uh and so again, we have to, you know, have the courage to say this is not a religion. This is a totalitarian, tyrannical, theocratic political system that is masquerading as a religion so that it can come in and and and infiltrate its way into Western civilization. And then, like the cancer that it is, it metastasizes. Look at what's happening in Western Europe. One of the reasons why, and this is important you bring it up, because so many people say, well, why is it NATO stepping up to the plate? Well, these Western European countries are afraid of an uprising on their streets because they have allowed this the Islamists, the Islamic jihadists, into their country. And so they don't want the riots. You already have no-go zones and things of this nature. And, you know, Sharia courts, a a system of jurisprudence that is antithetical to who we are in Western civilization. So Islam is a danger. And I don't care what anyone says, show me in history where it hasn't been a danger, where it hasn't been a threat to peace and stability.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I wrote a book called Think Biblical About the Geopolitical, had three chapters on Islam, and it was completely censored by the editorial services I was seeking, and they said, We cannot help you. This is hate speech, and canceled the contract.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but but but you know what's amazing to me, Pastor, is that you the the Supreme Court, I believe, in Finland just ruled three to two that certain verses of the Bible, if you speak out, you know, reference marriage, or if you speak out, you know, against this whole gender disorder stuff, that's hate speech. And in Canada, they just passed legislation to the same. But yet when you have a book that talks about beheading people, a prophet that married a six-year-old and consummated with her when she's nine. And and and so if you speak to that, now all of a sudden that's hate speech. That's why I say we are our own enemy, because we're afraid to to to bring forth the truth. And and they're taking advantage of that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it it is interesting how America is changing, though, and the invasion of the Islamic work. You know, I talk about in the book of Fatah and where they move in by migration into cities. Al Hisra. Yeah. And where they turn it upside down, you think of like Dearborn, Michigan, and some of these other locations where the the the the they're communicating on billboards in Arabic, and it's just flipped the entire town and the city. And there was talks of in Phoenix building Qatar City, uh 6,000 plus acres, right? Just five miles? Five miles from my house and Qatar City, and where they would actually institute Sharia law.
SPEAKER_02And the same thing here in uh in Texas. Uh, I'm sure you remember uh the Plano area, yeah, uh the East Plano Islamic Center. They were going to build Epic Center.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Epic City, I'm sorry. But you know, you talked about Dearborn and how interesting it was. Just a few months ago in Dearborn, Michigan, a Christian pastor was uh speaking at a city council meeting there, and he was protesting against the fact that they wanted to name a street in Dearborn, Michigan for a journalist who praises Hamas. And and he was told by the Muslim mayor of Dearborn, Michigan that he was not welcome in his city. I mean, this this is where we're at.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh and so I I how many how many Christian cities do you have in Saudi Arabia or in Tata? Yeah. Okay, so when when tolerance, when tolerance becomes a one-way street, it leads to cultural suicide. And that's I don't want to be on that path.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah, I've seen it, you know, and if you truly take the teachings of the Quran, I uh then you you you shouldn't enact Sharia law. That's I I've heard people say, you know, like uh, you know, Sharia law and jihadism, that's just a extreme form of Muslim theology. I'm like, no, it's actually an accurate application of the Quran and Muhammad's teachings based on what I read.
SPEAKER_02Well, that is what he said.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And again, you know, quote unquote, you know, a prophet, and if you don't believe me, look at the flag of Saudi Arabia is Muhammad's sword with a Quranic verse over it. You know, what prophet leads, you know, combat raids and nations? Yeah. What prophet, you know, says that you you behead your enemies? What prophet says that you know you take the the the women of your conquest and they become your sex slaves? I mean, what what what religion is that?
Iran Nuclear Risk And US Response
SPEAKER_00Oh, it's Islam. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's the death cult. Yeah. Let me I it's challenging. We've got neighbors that are Muslim and you know, we are we have friendly relationships with them, deep, deep theological divides, obviously, but they would be considered by their own standards of the Quran not not to be faithful to the Quran. And um it's challenging culturally, and it's concerning. And um what sparked me into this geopolitical conversation, which I'm excited you're gonna be coming out to Phoenix, and we're gonna be doing a one-day event. Uh, people can find out about it at real life ministry.us, uh Lieutenant Colonel Alan West will be there. Dr. Daryl Dahusse, president, former president of Phoenix Seminary, uh, will be there, and then I'll be teaching as well. But what sparked this whole thing for me was watching what happened with Iran and the the the uh Operation Midnight Hammer. I I actually was celebrating because I understood the danger of Islamic theology in a world power player. And if nuclear capabilities were in the hands of these kinds of people, then it's game over for a lot of people. So talk to us a little bit about just your your thoughts on President Trump and the actions towards Iran.
SPEAKER_02Well, let me put in perspective. Uh, I came on active duty as a young Army artillery second lieutenant on October the 30th, 1983. Uh, one week before I uh drove through the gates at Fort Sill, Oklahoma, uh, October 23rd of 1983, 241 Marines, sailors, and a soldier were killed in the Beirut Barracks bombing, which was the responsibility of Hezbollah. And we all know that Hezbollah is a proxy army of Iran. So I came on active duty knowing this enemy. Uh, and and of course, then when I get on the battlefields in Iraq and also in Afghanistan, I'm still dealing with this enemy. So it it it was time. And what you were alluding to, their theocracy, yeah, uh, is that they believe that global domination under Islam will come about when the hidden Imam, the Mahdi, the 12th Imam, returns, and what will bring him back is what they call a cataclysmic event. And what do you think they're pursuing this uh this weapon capability to do? So, you know, again, this is where you it's a little bit of Sun Tzu. It's the art of war. You gotta study, you gotta understand your opposition and understand the center of gravity. So I applaud President Trump uh for not being like President Obama and President Biden by sending them billions of dollars, which just went to them to uh foment more Islamic uh jihadism and also to build up their militarized capability and capacity to not just hold that region hostage, but to seek to have a global uh domination. Uh and and you know, we dodged a bullet because the relations between Venezuela and Iran were very, very close, very tight. And we have now come to find out that Iran does have intercontinental ballistic missiles because they fired two toward Diego Garcia. What would have happened if we did not have, you know, if there wasn't President Trump sitting up there in the White House right now, if it was some other person named Kamel Harris. And all of a sudden one of those ICBMs were was on one of those shadow or ghost ships that uh left Tehran, uh stopped off in in Cuba, and then uh came over to uh Venezuela in our in our back pocket, in our in our hemisphere. So, yes, you have to confront this enemy. I am proud of our military and what they're doing, but the bottom line is that we have to finish the job.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. What do you think about in relations to Israel right now? And you know, their obviously their right to exist as a nation, but just military presence over there and why they are a strategic ally if you think they are um and our involvement with that.
SPEAKER_02I I do think they're a strategic ally, and I've been to Israel twice, and uh look, there there is only one bright light in that darkness uh called the Middle East, and that's Israel. And it's just a little sliver of land about the size of New Jersey. What is it that angers people about that? And look, the modern day state of Israel, yes, it was re-established in 1948, but there's always been an Israel, there's always been a Judea, Samaria, Jewish people. And again, that comes back to understanding and knowing your history.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So the the the the whole goal is to eliminate these individuals, which is why I believe the Marxist leftists are in cahoots with the Islamists, because they both have this desire for totalitarian control and tyrannical uh power. Uh, let us never forget that the grand mufti of Jerusalem, uh Yasu Arafat's uncle, was very good friends with Adolf Hitler. And you had Muslim SS units over in the Balkans, and that's why they still remember a lot of the things that happened in World War II. So uh again, I think that we have to stand up for free people and for freedom and for liberty and for our Judeo-Christian faith heritage, uh, which really gave us the basis and the foundation of Western civilization.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. In Hitler's day, I read roughly 80 to 90 percent of the churches in Germany were siding with Hitler. Either they were complicit by not speaking out against the annihilation of the Jews, or they were public advocates for it. The concern I have is that same anti-Semitic poison is going on in today's time. Why why do you think that is?
SPEAKER_02Well, again, I just think that, you know, for whatever reason, people are looking for someone to castigate blame against, and that's what, you know, that's okay. Uh I just think that people are looking for someone to castigate blame against. Uh there they get into this victim and uh uh mentality and an oppressed mentality. And you know, I I I don't know why they direct so much of that toward the Jewish people. Uh but when you do that, uh I I remember the the saying, uh Israel is the canary in the coal mine. Because after that, guess guess who comes next? Uh so there are forces in this world that don't like freedom and liberty. And when you look at a a pluralistic society where Arabs, Jews, all peoples, black, white, whatever, uh they are existing together, as in Israel. And so uh I I just is it's it's very disturbing, as I said uh previously, and somehow we got to make sure that we uh eradicate this anti-Semitism that is trying to grow here in America, and I think it's an offshoot of the impact and the influence that Iran has had, that China is having, and also the Muslim Brotherhood here in the in our in our country.
SPEAKER_00And how do you think we fix that problem? And that'll be the closing question. How what what what can we do?
SPEAKER_02I think what what you are doing, Pastor Rice, is so important. It is about informing, educating so that people can be activated.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh because too often we think that everyone knows what we know, and that's not the case. So I am excited about coming out there and sharing these things uh uh with uh with a fearless manner, and I'm going to be unapologetic because that's what we have to do. We have to recognize the times that we're in, uh, and we have to stand strong. Like my mom said, a man must stand for something else, he'll fall for anything.
Confronting Hate With Calm Truth
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's good. There's an Aaron Tipton song on that. Oh, it's really good. Man, well, I I you know I was in Prescott, Arizona not too long ago, and they were chanting, This is so bizarre. They were chanting, kill the Jews. Kill the Jews. And I could not believe it. I don't even know how they could do that. And I I could I was walking across the street to get some ice cream with my kids, and somebody yells out, kill the Jews, kill the Jews. There were and they were uh anti-Israel uh protests going on, and you know, r in response to I guess what was going on in Iran and all that stuff, and I yelled out back, Hamas is the new Hitler. Hamas is the new Hitler. And I got into a tension moment, and my wife said, You need to come away right now. And so we went across the street, had the ice cream. And then I cooled off, and my far more level-headed son, who's 21, a great young man, said, Dad, I want to go talk to that girl that was yelling, kill the Jews. And I said, Boy, you're brave. And he said, He's he goes over in the spirit of grace and truth, and he says to her, and I overheard him, he said, How in the world could you call for something like that when you're flying your rainbow flag? You want everybody to know that you care about all these other kinds of people, but those are people, and he has a of compassionate, clear, articulate conversation with this gal, and by the end of it, she's apologizing and she quits, she said, I'm very sorry I said that. There you go. And I couldn't believe it because uh he just confronted her in such a different manner. I would have. I was just angry, frustrated.
SPEAKER_02But well, it reminds me uh there's a video clip of me. I was speaking at Northwestern University, and it was about the Iranian nuclear agreement. And the very first question in the uh question and answer was a young uh black female student came up and asked me if I identified as black. Oh my goodness. Yeah, well, you can look up the clip. I think it's over 20 million hits, but I will I I I thought about it and I and I just calmly, because she was getting very belligerent, but I just calmly, you know, responded and talked to her. And at the end of the session, I mean she did come up and apologize. When you when you stand on the moral high ground, Pastor Rice, you you you you don't have to raise your voice. And and I think that that is also the power of God within us.
Where To Follow And Final CTAs
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's a good word. It's a good word. Well, thank you so much for your time. I know you've got a busy schedule, and we look forward to where can people get a hold of you, find out more of the content that you're putting out.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, sure. You can go to theacru.org, which is the American Constitutional Rights Union. It was founded in 1999 by two members of the Reagan administration, his uh attorney general Ed Meese and Robert Carlson, who did a lot of his economic policy. I'm out there on Substack, I'm out on the uh all of the social media platforms at TikTok, and I also have a uh podcast called Steadfast and Loyal.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I love that. I've been listening to that. It's been really, really good. So thank uh I was listening to some of the guys you had on the program about regarding Islam and the the uh becoming apostates and um running for their lives, um which was so bizarre, so so troubling to hear that.
SPEAKER_02But they don't believe in freedom of religion, which is our very first liberty we have in a country.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00Well, thank you very much. Look forward to having you out in Phoenix Valley. Those of you listening in, you can find out more information at reallifeministry.us about that special event. It's a first come, first serve. Once the registration's filled, it will be filled. So you can go and register as soon as you can. And uh, we hope to see you there. And thank you again, Colonel, for being a part of this pod podcast. God bless, and we'll see you in Phoenix.
SPEAKER_02I'll be with you and see you in the Valley of the Sun.
SPEAKER_00Yep, that sounds great. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_02All right, bye-bye.
SPEAKER_00Bye-bye.
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