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Why Anti-Semitism Matters | Special Interview with Karys Rhea | Part 2 of 2
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We talk about why anti-Semitism matters to everyday Christians and why it can signal cultural decay that eventually harms everyone. We also lay out how to spot anti-Semitism when it hides behind memes, conspiracy claims, and confident political commentary.
• anti-Semitism as an ancient hatred that spreads through whole societies
• how anti-Semitism is used as a strategy to weaken America and divide the church
• why Christian doctrine is rooted in Judaism and cannot coexist with Jew hatred
• Israel as a modern democracy with strong family and faith dynamics
• how prophecy and biblical interpretation shape Christian views of Israel’s future
• recognizing anti-Semitism through scapegoating and conspiracy thinking
• warning signs in influencer culture and “everyone knows” talking points
• why Christians must challenge extremism inside their own circles
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Welcome to Real Life Ministry, where we are dedicated to teaching and encouraging Christians to live free and live strong. Your host today is Ryan Rice, a Bible teacher, a pastor, entrepreneur, and a writer. Join us as we dive into various topics and how they relate to faith, values, and making a positive impact in America. Let's dive into it.
SPEAKER_04All right, welcome back, guys, to another episode of Real Life Ministry. Today in the studio, we have uh Karis back in the studio. Karis, thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER_00Thank you for having me.
Why Christians Should Care
SPEAKER_04Yeah, last time in our episode, we talked about a number of things. And um in this episode, I'm hoping just to dive into a couple of questions that I think that um listeners were were wanting to hear a little bit more about some of the anti-Semitism and when for the average Christian and they hear about all this that's going on. Um, why first, why should the average Christian in your mind um care about anti-Semitism in Israel at all? Why does it matter for everyday believers?
SPEAKER_00Right. That's such a good question. I think there's a number of reasons. It just depends on what level you're talking about. If we're talking about American Christians who are politically active, I think that anti-Semitism is such an old and ancient hatred, right? They they they they think of it as one of the oldest hatreds that infects an entire society when it takes hold. So nobody is spared from it, right? And it creates a generation of people who are bitter and angry and divided, right? And and so you might think that it doesn't affect you, but it always it always does. It is the sign of a decaying society. I mean, there is no there is no entity, state entity or or community or society in history that has survived when it has hit like been hit with the plague of anti-Semitism from the top down and the bottom up, right? Um, but I also think that you know in in in terms of modern day geopolitics, what we're dealing with here, and I we kind of touched on this in the last conversation, is you have international forces, state and non-state actors that want to weaken America on the global stage. And these forces, many of them are using anti-Semitism in order to do that. So if you care about a flourishing America, a strong America, if you care about our national security, right, then you would want to keep this virus out of our, you know, you know, out of our borders, right? Because they are because the the people who are our enemies are not using anti-Semitism because they hate Jews. They're using it because they hate America. And they understand America's founding is based on the Hebrew Bible. They understand that our founders, our our Christian founders, looked to the Decalogue and to Mount Sinai, right? And to and to the the Jewish plight as as inspiration and as a guide for how to create a a moral, you know, and fair and just uh you know, nation.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And and I think our enemies understand that.
SPEAKER_04And so you see this as a threat to really just our freedom as a country, because kind of what I hear you saying is something along the lines of that if we care about the fabric and the moral uh compass of our nation being, you know, the founding documents have so much uh biblical truth woven in and through them. And so if we care about our country, then we should see this anti-Semitism, not just as a believer, but as an American citizen, as a threat to our freedom and democracy because it's a strategy just to divide. Is that kind of the idea?
SPEAKER_00Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Anti-Semitism As A Tool Against America
SPEAKER_04And I also think um to divide and kind of weaken the church, and then basically uh the the end goal would be is to uh uh eradicate kind of a biblical moral compass.
SPEAKER_00Is that absolutely I mean from a biblical perspective you know, I mean it this flows directly from core doctrines, right? About about uh you know, God and scripture and and salvation history for for uh Christianity. So for for Christians to not understand that their very faith is rooted in Judaism and it emerges out of the story of Judaism and not in opposition to it, then you recognize how anti-Semitism is is is antithetical to the very um you know core doctrine of Christianity, right? And and and just in terms of the God that Christians worship, right? Who is he's the god, it's the god of Israel, right? The old testament is Israel's scripture and Jesus and his earliest followers and the apostles, all Jews.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So hostility towards Jews is is is in a sense, you know, hostility towards towards the very tradition that Christianity depends on.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, so but you know, but I but but I was also gonna say before that for all the problems that Israel as a as a political sovereign nation has today, um, in many ways, it's sort of a model nation for Christians or for any people of faith, right? Because it is a democratic nation and yet it has a strong religious character. It is, it also has a strong national pride. You know, families and local communities are valued very, very fundamentally there. I mean, it's the only it's the only western style country in the world that has a positive birth rate, right? Like you have three babies on average for every family, including the secular, including the secular Jews in Israel. Okay, so you know, Christians want to see strong families and you know, people having having kids, right? And strong faith communities. And all of this is all of this is exists in Israel, and you feel it the second you you you step, you know, you step on the soil in Jerusalem. You feel it, you see it everywhere.
SPEAKER_04Well, and I think, you know, I mean, I'm coming from a a a Protestant or I'd say a Christian uh perspective and obviously an American uh perspective as well. And so like I would see definitely Israel as a model nation in some regard, you know. Um but I it the way I view in scripture is that Israel's heyday will be in the future. Uh from a from a biblical lens of understanding what's going to happen if we study prophecies, the Bible tells us that God from the very beginning has a promise and a plan with Israel uh to make them a nation that would be a great nation. They'll be a blessing to all peoples. From my perspective in uh studying the scriptures, you know, the current state of Israel still is under a partial hardening of heart. They have not yet received the Messiah as king. Uh, that Jesus will come back, and Israel is actually going to be used in a in one in one way or another, um, eventually in a worldwide revival. And God will raise up, uh, the Bible says in Revelation, 144,000 that will serve as super evangelists all around the world, and Jesus himself will come back, his feet will come on the Mount of Olives, according to Zachariah. Um, and according to the book of Acts, chapter one tells us that he's coming back in in the same way he left, he ascended uh from the Mount of Olives, he'll return there, and then he's going to establish a kingdom. And so, in and my biblical kind of perspective is as I see hit Jesus is coming back, and so the glory of Israel to me is is is yes, it's in part now, there's some of that blessing, but it is uh it is majorly in the future. And, you know, um, and you made mention as well of this idea that for for Israel, much of their faith. It I thought uh when I when I visited over there, I thought that there was a lot of Jewish people that were more secular than actually like practicing like the the their faith. Am I wrong in that? And there's not a ton, there's not a lot of Christians.
Christianity’s Jewish Roots
SPEAKER_00You're gonna find you're gonna find a lot of you're gonna find a lot of um secular Jews more in Tel Aviv, but you definitely won't find a lot of secular Jews in Jerusalem, right? Um so it really just depends. But when you when you touch down in Bengurian, you're basically in Tel Aviv.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um so if that's the first um the first place you visit, that's a very cosmopolitan, you know, urban. I mean, when people talk about the gay pride parade, you know, in Israel, it's all coming out of coming out of Tel Aviv.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um so so it just depends. But uh yeah, and no, there aren't there aren't many Christians. I think Christians make up like two two percent of the population or something. I think there's like two two hundred thousand Christians. But they are, but Christians in Israel are are excelling, they are flourishing, especially in terms of like careers, um, and just you know, uh in terms of socioeconomics. Like Christians are some of the most um advanced in terms of you know, their uh in terms, you know, in terms of the demographics of who is like a lawyer or doctor or things like that in Israel, right? Or or who you know graduates college, you know, like by by so many metrics, Christians are excelling um even more so than Jews in in in certain areas through capital.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, so yeah, and you know, I mean, I'm not I'm not, you know, a super observant Jew, and I've you know never read the New Testament from front to back. But from what from what my Christian friends tell me, you know, uh just Christian ethics are completely incompatible with anti-Semitism. And and they are and Paul and Paul, you know, even warns you know the Gentile Christians not to become arrogant towards Jews. I don't know what in what chapter Romans chapter 11.
SPEAKER_04Yep.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and and so and so I just think you know, on just the most fundamental basic level, even teachings that I know, like love your neighbor, yeah, right, love your enemies. I mean, these these these these leave no room for hatred of any group, especially a faith group. Yeah, like Jews.
SPEAKER_04And I would say from a biblical theological foundation, like first of all, in Genesis, you have the Imago Day, the idea that we're all mankind is made in the image of God. And so every person every person deserves dignity, value, worth, and respect. And so, you know, this is like this is just combating the idea of racism, you know, like like that's that's not God's plan at all. The second greatest commandment is love your neighbor. And then in the New Testament, the the concept of neighbor is Jesus comes and he highlights the good Samaritan, the the guy that um is nothing like the Jewish person, and they are actually more like enemies, and they serve one another, or the Samaritan serves the the individual that's in need, and he's held up as the hero. And it's like so the neighbor is people that are not like us, you know. And so yeah, it violates all sorts of uh um uh foundational biblical commands for Christians and Jews, you know.
Israel Today And Israel’s Future
SPEAKER_00No doubt. It contradicts the Christian story, the scriptures, the ethics, and and and the understanding of God's relationship with uh with with humanity. There's no doubt. I think the challenge though, even though Christians listening might agree with everything we've just said, the challenge sometimes is recognizing anti-Semitism when it emerges. Because people like Tucker Carlson, their defense, right, they'll say, I'm not an anti-Semite, based on what? Based on the fact that he doesn't ever say, I hate Jews. And that is true. There's a lot of these so-called Christian podcasters, um, John Root calls them Christlist Christians, um, who will you know their defense against anti-Semitism is the fact that they don't hate Jews, as if as if the only way that somebody could be an anti-Semite is to profess that they hate Jews, as if anti-Semitism has not endured for thousands of years, precisely because it manifests in so many different ways. And it and and and it adheres to the given needs of a society when it wants to scapegoat. Anti-Semitism is basically an empty vessel. So when a you know a society becomes becomes weak or scared, um, are vulnerable and they are looking for somebody to blame for their issues, whether that's because there is a plague or because people are in economic decline, right? It is always the Jews. They find the Jews. The Jews are responsible for poisoning the wells, right? The Jews are responsible, you know, for for, you know, uh, you know, um for for the for the banks for whatever, you know, whatever whatever bank activity has caused people to be economically shortchanged, right? So it's kind of like this this void where you can put whatever you need as a scapegoat. That's why that that word scapegoat you you hear so much in terms of anti-Semitism. And then also, like we talked about, it it this goes hand in hand with the idea of conspiracy, right? Because you're not just looking at the Jews as lesser than, like you would with other forms of prejudice, right? Like when you are when you're bigoted towards black people or women, right? Or any other group, it's usually because you look upon these groups as inferior, right? They're less than human. And that does exist, of course. Of course, Hitler saw the Jews as as vermin and rats and you know, insects, but there's also the flip side of that, right? The conspiratorial side, which is which punches up as they say, because it actually assigns like undue power and influence to the Jews. And it looks at the Jews as, you know, a super successful, robust group of uh uh, you know, group of um manipulators, right? Who are actually controlling everything. And so I I think that it's just in order to understand how anti-Semitism manifests, we have to have, we we have to have a grasp of history and we have to look at the centuries of pogroms against Jews, again, you know, massacres and forced conversions and exile, and look at what led to each of those events. Look at what precipitated the discrimination against Jews, and you will see the same types of conspiratorial thinking and blame that we are seeing today on the left and the right and within Islamist circles.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and from a biblical perspective, it's like you open up your Bible and you read right in the very beginning, like there's like these incredible plots to wipe out the Jewish people, you know, with Pharaoh and Moses, and you know, there's this plot to kill all the Hebrews, and then you you keep moving through the storyline of scripture, and you see and read in the book of Esther, and again, there's this massive plot to exterminate all the Jewish people, and God raises up and preserves and always uh you know is gonna accomplish his plan. There's always a remnant, and then you know, and then you get the exile, and you get, you know, uh the Jewish people are in Babylon, and um and they God preserves and protects Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abendigo, all those guys, and then you know, and then you fast forward and you go into the New Testament and you see, you know, the the plot to extern, you know, wipe out all the Jewish uh the Hebrew babies under two years old to try to eliminate, you know, the Messiah, the King Jesus. And so there's this, there's a there's a never-ending plot to wipe out the Jewish people. And from a biblical perspective, I would just say that's Satan's work to thwart God's plans and purposes. And I would hold to the position that God has a plan and a purpose for Israel, and he has a plan for the church, and there's some overlap there. Um, but he's gonna keep his there, they are distinct, and the church is not Israel, and Israel's not the church, and he's gonna keep his promises, and so you know, it it's it is a sinister uh plot that is being played out right now, which leads me to believe that we're moving more towards the time when we're awaiting the second coming of Christ. And so um that's kind of where I would see, and I see all this happening, but I've never seen anti-Semitism at an all-time high that I have now, and it's it's mainstream, and uh that's what's sad, you know.
SPEAKER_00It is mainstream, and there's even an entire, you know, motif that is circulating to disavow the term anti-Semitism, right? Because people will say, How can you be anti-Semitic? You know, Semites are Arabs, right? Like Arabs will say this. They'll be like, I can't be anti-Semitic. Like even the term itself, we're not allowed to use it anymore, right? It's just and and in reality, it's so it it it it it's so um reflective of a complete ignorance of history and even just the origin of that term, right? Like, first of all, we all know that we're talking about Jew hatred here when we say anti-Semitism. We all know that, okay? So like we don't need to be, we don't need to be, you know, linguistic with it, right? Or like parse out, you know, the you know, like you know, try to like straw, you don't need to like straw man anybody with that, right? But even the term anti-Semitism, like it's true, it's modern, it's not from the ancient world, but it was coined by a German um you know publicist in in the 1800s who wanted a term that was more scientific sounding than religious labels like Jew hatred, which was which is called uh uh Judenhaas in in German, right? Because at that time, right, the there was the Enlightenment, right? And people were appealing now to to science, right? As as you know, or over the church, right? This was after the Reformation. And so he framed hostility to Jews, not as this like theological disagreement, but he wanted to frame it as like this racial, um, you know, and cultural conflict. And so he he he he built that term, yes, based on this um, you know, this linguistic word Semite, which does come, you know, um uh I think it's from the table of nations in in Genesis, which reverses which uh refers to the descendants of Shem. So yes, typically, you know, like or or or or theoretically um or technically, yes, Semites can be Arabs, right? Because it's a family of languages that includes Hebrew and Arabic. But it doesn't matter because he was specifically referring to Jews. He did not mean opposition to all Semitic peoples. That is not how it has ever been used from the beginning. It specifically meant, you know, discrimination and bigotry towards Jews.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Okay, so. Jumping into kind of another episode or another segment real quick, uh let's talk about kind of like discernment uh in kind of the MAGA movement. So like um, and then I wanna want to move and close out our time with just kind of hope and next steps. So uh in the area of discernments, uh you you probably are able to spot this from afar and hear it and see it. But what are when when we're listening as American citizens or people that are just listening into the news worldwide, but what are some of these the influencers, you know, they seem bold, fearless, and um more conservative than everyone else. What are two or three maybe clear warning signs that a Christian or uh should stop and listen? Uh and listen for maybe some red flags or something that would be like, okay, this is not good.
How Anti-Semitism Hides In Plain Sight
SPEAKER_00I mean, there's definitely a whole array of sound bites, right? Like just talking points, and that's really all these people have. So if you just hear things, if you hear things about, I don't know, the Schofield Bible, yeah, or Jews, you know, starting the Iraq war, or you know, the Talmud, you know, hating Christians, or you know, like there, there's just like a number of um I actually made a list. I wonder if I could even like pull it up here. Um, but there's like a number of kind of memes, what they call like six-second histories that are just that that people just repeat. And if you hear these things, but they don't dive into any of them, right? Like if they just if they just say the memes, they say the sound bites, and that's it. And they act as if they are just a given and they coat those sound bites like Tucker Carlson does, which will with with phrases like everyone knows, or obviously, but you're not hearing any sort of evidence to back them up. You're not hearing, you know, the the substance within them. Don't believe them. Don't believe them until you've actually really had a chance to dive into each one. Be skeptical. When you hear something, when you hear the same, you know, sound bite about Jews or Israel over and over again, whether it refers to you know theology or politics or culture, stay, you know, stay skeptical. There's no reason you're not you're not doing yourself a disservice by not believing it, right? Even if it is true, right? Like you, you still, you still want to make sure that you yourself has have real have really have really you know dissected each one of those those memes, right? So, you know, that's that's really the best advice I can give.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, if you you know, if you find that list later, I'd love to see it, you know, because I mean that'd be a podcast in itself, right there. It's just like I think you're right. You know, I hear people, you know, attack dispensationalism, which is a the theological framework and understanding something as the Bible, as God works different in different time frames. So it's it's like you know, we're not operating in the day and time where you get guys like Moses walking up to the Red Sea and splitting the Red Sea, you know, like we're we're just up, God has revealed Himself in different dispensations, and that that word dispensation is a biblical word uh that describes a time frame in how God works. And the Apostle Paul uses that in the New Testament. And so um, you know, it is interesting, and then the words like the Schofield Bible and and you know, phrases like that, and Schofield was one of the uh big movers and shakers of dispensationalism in understanding how to approach the Bible, and in essence, what I tell people about dispensationalism is all that means is that you take a literal, historical, grammatical, contextual approach to understand what the author's intent of the scriptures are to interpret it. And the general uh and by and large, from what I understand within the church in American history, is that dispensational was actually the predominant theological framework to understand the Bible. Like you just read the Bible, literal, historical, grammatical, contextual, understanding the author's intent. You take it for what it means. Well, what's happened is there's been like this over-spiritualization of the scriptures. And so you get like the the, you know, Israel is no longer Israel, it's just the church, and everything gets spiritualized, and you're like, that didn't, it's it's to me, it's a it's a violation of how to even understand the scriptures. And so what like when what you said earlier, that you know, some of these influencers are throwing things out there, like questioning the Schofield Bible, dispensationalism, or a number of other things, it's just creating stirring a ton of confusion into our culture. And they're doing those little six-second sound bites that aren't really backed up with anything. And and that's what's frustrating and challenging as a pastor today. It's like, hey, hey, hey, hey, wait, time out. Like you're buying into this, but you're not really looking back to the scriptures, you know.
SPEAKER_00So or even through history. Yeah. I mean, I think that a lot of these podcasters are, you know, they they they refer, they they find justification for their anti-dispensationalist beliefs by trying to make it seem as if because dispensationalism is more of you know a recent phenomenon than the actual real Christian way is like supersessionism or replacement theology, right? As if the as if the as if the the the decades and centuries of you know Christian persecution of Jews, you know, throughout Europe is not something to be like, you know, repentant about, right? Um and and and and and even so, like I find that like, you know, for for Protestants to be saying that when those periods, when those periods they're talking about, you know, were overseen by, you know, a corrupt, you know, Catholic church, it just seems to me like so, so again, like antithetical to to the the pure you know Christian teachings and and scriptures. There's actually a really incredible um video by Rabbi Pesah Waliki, who's with Israel 365, who I work with, and he's incredible. And he he did a video about this, about the you know, the this this new argument that a lot of these conservative podcasters are making against dispensationalism. And he goes through the actual history of it, and it was so enlightening. And so I would, I would refer everybody to um to his own, you know, he's on YouTube or whatever, Pesoch Woolki, and he makes these really great videos and he works with Christians every single day. That's what Israel 365 is about. Um, so he really, really grasps, you know, the theology and the history and and and he just he just completely dismantled even the historical arguments um, you know, against uh dispensationalism. So not even like from a biblical perspective. Um so uh so yeah. And you know, and also like we we didn't even talk about um, you know, the fact that you know it is it is Christian. It is, it is, you know, we talked about how Christians in Israel are doing so well, um, you know, as as a whole, right? Obviously, there's you know, there's individual instances that we can point to. Oh there's always tension between any faith groups or minorities in any country. Um, but you know, we didn't even talk about how in the surrounding region like Christians are are being genocided, they're disappearing, not just from the Middle East, but you know, throughout Africa, and Christians flee to Israel for safety, even from places like the West Bank, yeah, you know, from Judea and Samaria. And and so, you know, you should support Israel and be against anti-Semitism, also just for your own survival, because Israel is fighting your fight against the jihadists and the and the Islamists and the radical Muslims who are actually trying to displace you in countries that you used to be the majority of, like Lebanon.
Discernment Against Viral Sound Bites
SPEAKER_04Well, and I would I would argue that for for Christians, you know, to embrace uh you know the the Jewish people in regards to, I mean, we we share much of the scriptures, you know, so so our foundation, uh uh the Old Testament, we share the Old Testament by and large. And um, you know, the the the that worldview uh really matters tremendously. And I I don't think, you know, when you look at the Ten Commandments and how it's shaped civilizations around the world of for all of world history, it's like these are basic truths that have shaped the world in which we live for all times. And so it it's a beacon of light for sure in a Middle East where there is a radical Islam um that has a a very uh evil doctrine and um a kill cult kind of mentality that is uh very dangerous and threatening to peace, prosperity, and security. And so yeah, I would I would agree there. Uh well and and some of the one a closing question is uh you spend a lot of time looking at some dark trends, you know. So you see see a lot of the bad stuff. Where are you seeing hope or examples of Christians and Jews standing together, courage and clarity? Like what are some good things that you're seeing out there?
SPEAKER_00I'm the only place I'm seeing it is from people like yourself, and there are a lot of you. I don't see it online, I don't see it online because even the people that are fighting back online, they're just outnumbered by the algorithms and by the sheer amount of Muslims in the world. Few or so right that are on social media, right?
SPEAKER_04Um well, and I'm getting I'm getting the kickback, not necessarily from the Muslims right now. I'm getting kickback just from, I would say, the woke right. That's that's where right, exactly.
SPEAKER_00And so, and so that the the fact that the fact that you all are so firm in your convictions, right? And not prepared to just go with these sort of superficial trends that are now sweeping, you know, the right in America, um, it it absolutely gives me hope because I always say that like this fight against anti-Semitism on the right, it's not going to be had between Jews and Christians. It's going to be had between Christians and Christians. Like Christians are going to move the needle on this, right? And I have met just since I started speaking out about this a few years ago, you know, I was just very detached from the Christian community and all of the work that I previously did fighting anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism and trying to raise the alarm bells about Islamism and progressive doctrine and the and the red-green alliance. I was that that that that whole period of my career, I was very detached from the Christian community. And since I started talking about, you know, the woke right, you know, um a few years ago, it's like I have met, I have met and worked with so many incredible American Christians who I just I I can't believe I haven't been working with this whole time. Because I I I just I haven't met a more devoted uh and humble group, honestly. Well, I think and um and and I feel sometimes sometimes you guys love the Jews more than we love ourselves. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, you know, again, I mean, I think that, gosh, when I look at the pages of scripture and just read it in a you know, historical, contextual way, like that's how you should pick up a book. Like, what is the author trying to say? What's the you know, I mean, it's it's not it, it's not you you you have to place yourself back into that time frame and understand what's the culture, what's the context, what's the literal meaning here, what's the author's intent, what's the grammatical movement here? You you can see all throughout the pages of scripture to me, very clearly, God has a plan for the Jewish people. And why did he choose to form a nation, call it Israel? Why did he choose to choose uh a people among all peoples to be a light to the world? Uh it's his prerogative. And and so, you know, um, does the church share in that role and responsibility? Yeah. Uh but the Jewish people, the God's promises and plans, his calling, as Romans 11 says in the New Testament, they're irrevocable. And he will fulfill everything he promised. He's a promise maker and a promise keeper. And so, you know, that's my my my understanding on it is like, okay, look, it's just what the Bible says, and either you live by it or you don't. And uh I I operate under the adage what Jesus said, if you know the truth, the truth will set you free. And I think there's a lot of wisdom in that.
SPEAKER_00And uh Absolutely, and I think on a and I think on a political level too, we really just need to look to what happened to the Democrat Party as a as a warning, right? Because my grandparents were Democrats, and they were not, or at least my grandmother was, and she is not the Democrat of 2026, right? Or even 2000, right? Like the classical liberals, there was a difference between the woke progressives that we see today, and you know, the classical liberals, you know, of a few decades ago. Um, and so when we see a Democrat Party that has been completely taken over by its most extreme factions to the point where there is no middle anymore, it has we have to be humble enough to understand that it can happen to us. We can't think that just because conservatives and Christians and people of faith are principled, that we we aren't vulnerable to the same type of um radicals or extremists in our midst, right? The people you and you don't need a majority of them to change a culture or to change a political party. You just need a small group who screams very loud and who are a bunch of bullies. So we we have to stand up against these people so we can keep our our we can we can can keep our traditions principled and we we and and and so we don't give the left, you know, any sort of satisfaction for them to look at us and say, see, you guys are a bunch of of fascists, right? Yeah you guys are a bunch of anti-Semites, you guys are a bunch of misogynists. Yeah, no, yeah, we are principled and we are moral and we are ethical.
Hope Plus Practical Next Steps
SPEAKER_04Well, boy, it's been a good time talking with you. I look forward to reading your book when you get it done. And I'd like to send you a copy of my book if if you would be gracious to look to receive it. I would love to send it to you. So it is out on Amazon as a pre-order right now, but I'd love to send you a copy. And um, thank you again for all your work and um your time to get with us today. Uh, any closing thoughts or comments you'd like to share with our listeners?
SPEAKER_00No, I just I really appreciate you having me, Ryan. I mean, I you know, I've there's kind of just been like a steady stream once every week or so of of you know, um a pastor or and or not even just um not even just pastors, but even Catholics. There's just been kind of a steady stream of messages that I've received from from Christians coming in, and and it's just it's so meaningful to me. So these are the conversations I like to have more than speaking to my own people, more than speaking to Jews, because I like I said, it's I think it's Christians who are gonna move the needle on this. And and so, and so I really appreciate you giving me the opportunity to speak to your to your audience, your viewers.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I appreciate it, and that's encouraging to hear Catholics are call are calling in and want to talk.
SPEAKER_00That's cool. That's great. Now they're yeah, there's and then and there's whole groups, you know, Catholics for Israel, and um good, you know. I mean, there's you know, they're they're doing their part too.
SPEAKER_04That's great, that's great to hear. Well, I'm doing a trip out to the Holy Land in September, Lord willing. It's it's on the books, it's so we're just pending everything's good and safe over there, and homeland security gives us the green light, we'll be there.
SPEAKER_00So fantastic. Are you doing like a mission, like a group? Are you bringing people? Are you just bringing yourself?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I'm doing like a Holy Land tour. So you're welcome to come if you want to, but yeah, it'll be like a 10-day Holy Land tour, walking the steps of Jesus and kind of visiting all the sites. And then one of the things I'm gonna be doing on this trip that was really cool, is I'm I'm actually gonna teach not just um there'll be some, there'll be obviously a history of looking back of what occurred in these uh locations, but I'm gonna actually be teaching on what is going to happen in the future in these locations. So I'll be giving kind of uh uh explaining the biblical prophecies as related to the the actual sites, as many as I can. So gotta be special.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that that's don't stop those trips, honestly, because I think that's the most important part of all of this is actually bringing Christians to Israel to experiencing it to experience it for themselves. Yeah. And and when you go, make sure you go meet with the Israel guys in Jude and Samaria, if you haven't before, they are incredible. They're like a bunch of like Christians who just look like American cowboys who moved out to Judea and Samaria, which is very rare for Christians, usually Christians who move to Israel.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's cool.
SPEAKER_00Don't move into the into the territories, if you will. And they have a huge farm there, and they, you know, they they give tours and plant trees and stuff like that. So you know, they're amazing. They have a whole media um thing, too.
SPEAKER_04So I'll have to, I'll have to, I'll have to check, check that out and follow up with you on that. So all right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, because one of the things I think is so important when Christians go to Israel is that they actually go into Judea and Samaria. There's a lot of groups that keep Christians out of that area because they're worried about you know, safety or whatever, but it's like it's it's it's it's Israel's heart and soul. I mean, Judea. That is where the word Jew comes from, right? It is it is it is the life force of Israel. And so it's very, it's very important to see.
SPEAKER_04That's great. That's great. All right, and remind our listeners where they can find you and follow you.
SPEAKER_00Um, my handle is at Raya Karas, so just my last name and then my first name. Um, and if you want to sign up for my daily mailing list, um, which is one email a day with a few articles from the news that are off the beaten path of mainstream media, you can email Rea's daily list at gmail.com.
SPEAKER_04All right. Well, thanks for joining us. So you can stay on the line and and then um we'll close out. So those of you listening in, thanks for joining us for another episode of Real Life Ministry. Uh, as always, one encourage you to live free, live strong. You can visit us over at reallifeministry.us. Thanks for being a part. And Karis, thank you again.
SPEAKER_00Thank you so much, Ryan.
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