Beyond the DJ Booth
Brian B and Joe Bunn tackle questions about the private event DJ industry, share music, gear/gadgets, and stories from their gigs.
Beyond the DJ Booth
S2, Ep.5: NYC Lingo, DJ Insurance Tips, and Interactive DJ Trends
Are you ready to navigate the world of private event DJs with a dash of humor and a touch of New York City flair? Join us as Joe navigates post-surgery recovery while Brian B challenges him with a New York City vernacular quiz. From iconic street pronunciations to the labyrinth of NYC abbreviations, you'll get a taste of Joe's southern assimilation and a light-hearted connection to New York culture. Meanwhile, we tackle the importance of individual DJ insurance, a shift from the traditional umbrella policy, ensuring you're adequately covered when event season starts.
We don't just stop at local lingo and insurance; we're also dishing out advice on evolving "interactive" DJ trends. The wedding scene is changing, and so must we, as we debate the decline of traditional activities like bouquet tosses and the shift towards more personalized and interactive DJ roles. Honesty, integrity, and staying true to your skillset are our guiding stars here. So, whether you're a DJ looking to hone your skills or just in it for the laughs, don't miss this episode - your ears and eyes (if you're watching the YouTube version) will thank you!
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what is up everybody? Welcome back to beyond the DJ Booth, Season 2, Episode 5. It's been a minute, bro.
Speaker 2:It has been.
Speaker 1:We're the Batch Kings.
Speaker 2:We are the Batch Kings. Let's talk about what this podcast is for First of all welcome.
Speaker 1:If you've never listened. My name is Joe Bunn. Terrible intro. We're rusty, we're a little rusty. My name is Joe Bunn. That's Brian B. This is the podcast for private event DJs. I guess, yeah, the people that are out there rocking the corporate events weddings, birthday parties, mitzvahs, quinceañeras.
Speaker 2:We're in January, I don't think there's a lot of people rocking shows unless you're in like Phoenix or Miami Florida, places like that, florida yeah of people rocking shows, unless you're in like phoenix or miami, places like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's okay. Anyway, yeah, um, so that's what it's for. And we talk about gear, we talk about shows we've done, we talk about music. We usually answer a question, so if you ever want to submit a question, just do that through the proper channels. I can't even talk, man. I got stitches in the side of my neck from a light skin cancer battle, so luckily you guys are not seeing my right side uh, but everything's okay everything's okay I'm gonna be just fine so anyway, welcome last episode.
Speaker 2:Yes, I wouldn't say you threw me under the bus, but you were trying to with some like north carolina town talk I was I was.
Speaker 1:I mean, I wasn't trying to throw you under the bus, I just wanted to see if you had assimilated into the Southern lifestyle. There we go.
Speaker 2:For those that don't know, I lived in New York City for 11 years and that, I guess, puts me into the locals category of a New Yorker. When you get past the 10 year mark, that's what they say.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right.
Speaker 2:So I had to learn some New York speak and I thought you know what I'm going to test this guy's knowledge. Let's just see how well you are with this. I mean, you visited quite a few times, but I feel like this is going to put you on another level, because now you're going to feel like a local when you visit. You know what I mean. Okay, so I'm going to throw a couple of street names. This is a variety of different things, just New York talk. So let's go with the first one here Saquon.
Speaker 1:Okay. So, by the way, we have the video version. If you're listening to this on the podcast, wherever you stream the podcast, we have the full video version on my YouTube channel.
Speaker 2:So this street name for those that are just listening only is M-A-C-D-O-U-G-A-L Street. I'm going McDougal, that is correct. Thank you sir. Thank you A Thank you sir.
Speaker 1:Thank you A lot of people say MacDougal, yeah, it's McDougal, yeah, mcdougal. I don't know why, I know that.
Speaker 2:Okay, you're one for one, one for one. Let's go to number two here. So this is spelled G-R-E-E-N-W-I-C-H. How?
Speaker 1:do you say this?
Speaker 2:I think it's Greenwich. It is Green.
Speaker 1:Man, two for two. New York is so iconic and it's been on so many TV shows. Yeah, I feel like that's the only reason I know these.
Speaker 2:It's going to get tougher. I don't think it's so easy All right, let's go with this next one here L-A-F-A-Y-E-T-T-E.
Speaker 1:Lafayette.
Speaker 2:That's how the French say it, that's tough. It is a toughie. That's when you know you're a local, though it's when you get it like that. So you're two for three. Two for three, let's go. Let's go with the next one here. This is going to be tough. This is S-T-U-Y-V-E-S-A-N-T.
Speaker 1:I know Bed-Stuy so I feel like it's Stuyvesant.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 1:A lot of people say the only reason I know that is Bed-Stuy.
Speaker 2:Let's switch it up from street names to just like food items here. So we'll start with an easy one. This is B-A-G-E-L Bagel. How do you say it, bagel? Yeah, you got to put a little attitude to it, bagel.
Speaker 1:Let me get a bagel.
Speaker 2:You can flip the bird All right. Let me get a little. All Coffee Coffee, you got to get a little coffee, not coffee.
Speaker 1:All right, this is going to be an iconic one here.
Speaker 2:Let's see if we get this. This is spelled G-Y-R-O.
Speaker 1:Man this one is weird because I see people say gyro.
Speaker 2:I see people say hero and I see people say like euro, okay, out of the three, I'm gonna go euro. Euro is the probably the most common okay, but there is also accepted in very new yorker neighborhoods gyro. Okay. So the second one heroes that fail okay, okay, fail, all right. So now let's go abbreviations here. This is the long island expressway. How would a new yorker say they're getting on the long island expressway? Lie, lie, the lie. You just spell it out, right, all right. Brooklyn's queens expressway. How do people say this? One bqe. The bqe nailed it. We got one more here.
Speaker 1:So let's say you're taking a train yeah the one train how do you tell people is it train the same thing as a subway? It is?
Speaker 2:it is yep. Is it above ground or below the ground? Both. Some of them are above, some of them are below, some of them are a combo. But if you're going to take the one train, how do you tell people you're going to take the one train? Just say the one, just say the one. You delete the word the train. Take the one.
Speaker 1:Take the E.
Speaker 2:And where am I going? Uptown is going. It could be either or.
Speaker 1:Okay, well done. I did pretty good, dude. That was TV help, tv and movies. I think yeah, all right.
Speaker 2:Well, I feel like now you know I'm not going to be as embarrassed as I thought I was going to be bringing you along if we go out that way, when do I have to go back up there?
Speaker 1:I don and went over to the city.
Speaker 2:Well, I got you some gear finds, some things I've bought in the last little bit that I thought I'd share with you. Okay, so another power bank, different style here. Okay, this is by Anker.
Speaker 1:You haven't even taken the label off.
Speaker 2:Have I not? Yeah, I probably should.
Speaker 1:That's very satisfying when you peel those.
Speaker 2:I don't like to get it scratched up, though I kind of enough.
Speaker 2:but this one I like because a it's got a handle, yes, but is also, you see that it's got the cable right there too, so you just do a little usbc, but it's also got another one another usbc in here, okay, and on the sides it's got an a and a c so you can do three c's and an a all through the same one and it it's the super fast one, so you can power up your computer in 25 minutes. If you want to hit the button, it'll show you the display, not turn it over. There it is, so it's showing you 100%. It's heavy enough, but not crazy heavy.
Speaker 1:You think this will power a laptop?
Speaker 2:Oh, it definitely does, because I used it for that already. Really yeah.
Speaker 1:MacBook Pro or MacBook Air.
Speaker 2:I don't know about the Pro, but an Air I mean they're an M2. I have an M2 one, so it should do it for a Pro. But the fact that it shows you, kind of like, what you have left on this to charge and also how far your other ones or devices are coming on, you just literally just push that little cable into it, that's all good $ 100 bucks for this piece and I'll link it in our thing below.
Speaker 1:How do you find this stuff?
Speaker 2:we're helping y'all find it through brian's banking. How do you find targeted on ads? Or just me looking for stuff? I was actually looking for one that was a supercharge and I have so many more usbc things that I didn't need the a as much and so I was like well, hey, I need to find something. I looked it up and this one was rated really well and so far it's held up. So and I like the fact that's got the handle you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:It's kind of anchor makes good shit they do anchor makes good shit all right, one more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you ready this bad boy. This is a tiktok shop. Okay, situation which is possibly going away, I guess tomorrow is it tomorrow, two days? What that is? This is to pump up your car tire no way I've seen that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I haven't. Mine is small, but it isn't that small isn't this crazy. Yeah, mine is not nearly like.
Speaker 2:Mine is still like a little pump yeah, so it charges usbc on the back so if it were ever to run out. I mean, you're not using it that much.
Speaker 1:No right, it should be good for a while, it's normally here, when it gets cold that first day, your tires go down. Yeah, and then I get that warning on the dash that I've got low pressure on my tire.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you just hit this power button here and it will basically tell you the PSI that you want it to charge to.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:You hook this thing in, yeah, and it starts doing it Damn Pretty good, it tells you the battery With the flashlight. With the flashlight, if you're in the dark, you can kind of see this thing, so check it out.
Speaker 1:I mean it's pretty, you're going to die when you see this price Shit, I'm going to order one, I guess the only if I had to say the only negative to this.
Speaker 2:Here's the price, just so you can see that I'm telling the truth here $42? $42. I feel like every DJ needs to have this in their car. Here's the only thing.
Speaker 1:I can say in the car Right, I go out my tire's flat, I go to grab this. It's dead, it charges very fast Okay.
Speaker 2:That's the only, thing, yeah.
Speaker 1:Mine is like a little pump. It's small.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And it goes into what used to be called the cigarette lighter.
Speaker 2:Right, whatever that's called now Right.
Speaker 1:So mine is ready to go at all times.
Speaker 2:According to the website, you, if you had a long enough cable, it could literally charge in your car and work at the same time. But I just feel like this is a good little thing to have in your car. You never know when this could come in handy yeah especially if you're headed to a gig.
Speaker 2:All of a sudden you get a flat tire. You don't have time to wait for triple a. You don't know how to change a tire in your spare. You can at least get there with this bad boy I dig it all right, super dope.
Speaker 1:well, I need one, you're right, right For $40.
Speaker 2:Right, speaking of emergencies. Oh man, great transition You're getting good.
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Speaker 2:How long? I'm curious. I can tell you how long mine has been. You can, I can. I know exactly when. 12 years, probably More than that.
Speaker 1:When did I come to see you in Florida? Because I think I was. I was on it 15 maybe, I.
Speaker 2:I mean, I thought we were talking about it when I came down there and that was I think you were because I wasn't totally utilizing it to its full capacity with, like, the e-signature contracts, which was so stupid, like why I wasn't doing that. Right, talk about a, a program that has never gone down. I have never had that thing go down in 16 plus years knock on wood, ever. I mean like and like the updates. If they're doing an update like it's pretty seamless, like you're not going to lose any, and that, to me, is everything.
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Speaker 2:the podcasting table I literally googled podcast table yeah and it's like podcast tables dot shop.
Speaker 1:I think the dude's name was Jason. He makes these.
Speaker 2:Did he have a bunch of different styles?
Speaker 1:Oh, he had a hundred.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think he builds most of them custom, not like stock. This happened to be in stock. It literally goes with these Elgato low profile podcasting arms right to what else? The EV microphone.
Speaker 2:So let's talk about those, because we haven't talked about the gear. You want to talk about it? Yeah, why not? What are we using here? Because we got two colored? No, we have three different ones.
Speaker 1:Mine is a RE20. I think yours is a RE23, maybe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is the one I use at home. What do you got? You're the RE20?.
Speaker 1:Yeah, re320. You they're actually different models Got it. So you know Saquon's on the 320, 20 for me, brian 23. But shout out to EV. They just gave us some great mics to try out if you like the way it sounds. I know that you know every once in a while we'll get a comment oh, you're coming off the mic or whatever when you're looking over at Brian. That's kind of why we got the table. I'm trying to be a little bit more on mic, mike. These are pretty. I don't know what the word is like centric to hear.
Speaker 2:Well, and I didn't even know they made podcast mics for a long time, and so when I found out that they did, I was like oh, I got to start.
Speaker 1:First microphones on the moon.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:Really Did not know that. I didn't either until a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2:Interesting Wait what.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what they said. I don't know if they meant like in the In the 60s. That's what EV says.
Speaker 2:That's a Monopoly question.
Speaker 1:Sequence question.
Speaker 2:Yeah, use the Google.
Speaker 1:Should we talk about me going to the NAMM show next week? Yeah, or should we move on to the question?
Speaker 2:Well, actually I was going to ask you one other thing. Okay, go on, this is business-wise, so it's kind of moving to some business stuff here.
Speaker 1:We haven't even talked a ton, but anyway go on.
Speaker 2:Well, you gifted me a show over the holidays a holiday party for Epic Games.
Speaker 1:Yeah, shout out to Fortnite, shout out to Epic Games.
Speaker 2:So because that was the first, you know one I've done with you like officially Did.
Speaker 1:I not pay you.
Speaker 2:No, you did, you did, you did. I mean it took a while, but I'm just kidding. I'm kidding, no, but I thought it was interesting because I was in the workflow of getting all your emails as a bun DJ and I just thought this was super interesting. And I'd love for you to kind of explain your rationale, because we never really did talk about it. You just sent me a quick text like yo, you got to handle this which was COIs Right. The way I've always run it for my guys and ladies on our team is as the company owner. I just have always handled that. I've always like it to every venue. They deal with the office for that. And I thought it was super interesting because immediately when they asked me for it, I said, hey, let me get in touch with Bun DJ Co because that's who I'm working for, let me get that from these guys. And you said to me all the DJs have to provide their own. I was like what I've never heard of this. So give me the 30,000 foot view.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to give you too deep into it because I don't understand it myself, but I'm telling you up until six weeks ago.
Speaker 2:Oh, so it's that recent. I didn't realize that Okay.
Speaker 1:Like I did exactly what you said. We sent out our what I thought was our COI, which covered our DJ. Right, they were working for us and, to be honest, I don't. But we use Peep Insurance. Shout out to Peep P-E-E-P, dale Wittig. I don't remember if we were having a conversation. One of my DJs left something in the room, that's what it was. It got ruined and so he had to, I guess, file a claim. Somehow this conversation comes up to where Dale's like no, that's not really how this policy works. Your DJs need to have a policy which is super affordable. Dj insurance is super affordable and out of the 25 guys everybody basically we had to tell them hey, guys, this is part of being a contractor. Several of them went to like their agency and got like an inland marine policy or something. The majority of them went to Dale and he wrote the policy.
Speaker 2:And are you saying that because you use subcontractors I know we're not going to get in the argument of that and employees, but is that why, man?
Speaker 1:I don't know we don't have guests on this podcast. Yeah, maybe we should.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and how are your DJs Cause? I mean, it's what? 500 bucks or whatever it is for the year, is it?
Speaker 1:Okay, the reason I thought we recovered is I thought on the insurance application. It was like how many shows a year do you do? How many djs work right? How much gear do you have? How much is your music library?
Speaker 2:and then exponentially, the amount of the policy went up right, based on the gear, the premium yeah, I was very confused, but we definitely changed that policy like interesting. Well, I bring it up just because, if anybody else is listening, it's's the beginning of the year.
Speaker 1:You might want to revisit that right, like check with your insurance person, check with your insurance person and just know that almost every place you play now is going to require you to give a COI, a certificate of insurance. It is very, very common that three or four times a week when we get in the busy, randy is getting a request for us to send and now we basically just tell the DJ hey, send him your COI. So if you're not number one, if you don't have DJ insurance, look into PEEP, p-e-e-p. Tell Dale that we sent you there. They make it very simple to get that COI. It's a quick, easy turnaround for them to send it to you and then you're going to have to forward it to the venue. Probably it was nothing other than mandatory you know what I mean it wasn't like I was making money on anyway.
Speaker 2:All right, let's get to a question then you want to get one sure this is coming to us from byron, michigan, mr bill young. Do you know, bill I? Think so okay, I don't, I don't think I do shout out bill young but hey, nice to meet you, bill, virtually.
Speaker 2:What are your thoughts on asking the bride and groom if they want an interactive DJ or a traditional DJ? And he gives us three examples. Example one is doing a sing-along. You play I Want to Dance with Somebody. Go out in the crowd with the mic while the guest is singing the song. Have the guest sing into the mic. This will be only for one song. Example two is doing mic work. You start in the song, started the disco craze voice over the music and then you shut up. So maybe this is a second way of being interactive. Or the third way leading skits and bits hand over hand. This is the last time the group oh God.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this will be the last time you have the upper hand. This is the last time you'll have the upper hand. People still do those in toasts, absolutely, I just and the room cracks up. I know.
Speaker 1:But maybe it's just because me and you've done so many ways. Yeah probably.
Speaker 2:I mean, do you get A? Do you get bride and grooms asking you how interactive you are, or do they even request? I don't really get this question really means, I guess, no mic work. Maybe you use it as a selling point for or against.
Speaker 1:Every once in a while I'll get it and I think it would probably be in the initial inquiry before it went to the DJ, like if Randy was going through this and what style are you? Or whatever you know for my guys. We had a staff meeting two days ago or Monday night on Zoom. I think everybody showed up. All 25, 24 guys were on it was a two-page Zoom.
Speaker 1:It was a two-page Zoom, it was a two-pager and everybody showed up, whereas even if you say mandatory in person, it just somehow people get out of it. But on Zoom it's pretty hard to get out of, especially 8 at night. People get out of it, but on Zoom it's pretty hard to get out of, especially 8 at night. So everybody's on. And we talked specifically about being accurate in your description of what you do and who you are as a DJ and an MC, because we had either one or two incidents and incidents are pretty rare here of somebody expecting one thing and getting another. I think we had a. You know, I was telling them the way that Raleigh is your, your case in point. If you're calling yourself at some point a New Yorker, the reality is everybody ends up in North Carolina or Florida right.
Speaker 1:Nobody wants to live up there forever. They end up here, right, which is great for business, for the city. But we're getting more New Jersey people, philadelphia people, new York people and I think they have a different expectation of what a DJ is going to be. And in that initial consultation you have to be completely honest with what your skill set is or what you're good at. And I think these people oversold themselves as being a hype DJ or an interactive DJ, and they are not. I don't even consider myself an interactive DJ. I don't know that I would be good at being an interactive dj, to be honest, going out in the crowd or kind of radio, introing songs or what was the other thing? Yeah, doing the bits and the games. I'm not very good at that and I probably would be very transparent and forthcoming in that delivery of it?
Speaker 2:have you had an instance where you didn't know it on the initial inquiry? We're a week out when you're your planning and they're like, hey, we want to do this game for sure. Yeah, how do you talk about?
Speaker 1:that I think one time on here I mean I do. At that point I'm you know, I'm already committed, I'm doing it, I'm doing it. I can't say it's going to be great, but I'm doing it.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean yeah I think we all, you know, we kind of get, you know, sometimes sucked into these, these parties, parties, or you know, things come up in this 12 month leading up to the wedding when they booked it a long time ago and they didn't say it in the consultation or you didn't ask about it, and then boom, you next thing. You know you're two weeks out and you're you're doing the damn shoe game or the, you know the hand over hand comment or whatever. But what are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 2:I think one of the biggest things that's changed for us is that we don't push it right. We don't push the interactive bits or any of that stuff. I think where we found ourselves doing more of it is when we asked those questions on our forums like would you like to see the shoe game or would you like to see bride and groom trivia, those kinds of things. If you give them the option, they may pick it. If you don't give them the option, then they're probably not going to bring it up unless they've seen it somewhere or they really, really want it.
Speaker 2:So, I feel like the amount of interactiveness that we're doing as a company has gone way down over the years. I think it's a combination of a just the events changing the landscape of what people are wanting to get right to the party, and less formalities, and includes interactive games and stuff like that. Secondly, I think you know the fact that we have it off the forum has also contributed to that. And third, honestly, like a lot of our djs are more mixers than they are, I wouldn't want to, to your point, push them into doing something that they're not comfortable with I mean that used to be a huge part of our training program for djs was showing them these games right, we've cut all of that out.
Speaker 2:Right, it's like none you know different, everything's different.
Speaker 1:Man, I was talking. I just had a bride consultation, just booked a wedding for a thursday in october and she and I were talking about how things have changed. Bouquet and garter are going away, the yeah, the cake cuttings often becoming private, the you know, formal introductions are out the window. Are people still doing like love story and whatnot? I mean I know there's people teaching that. I mean I've never done one. No, me neither.
Speaker 2:So I I wouldn't know, but we don't get them requested. I think it's one again one of those things where, if that's a skillset you've developed, you probably do want to push it, and so you're bringing it up in various places.
Speaker 2:Sure, I just think there's other ways to customize events and make them unique and different, where you don't have to necessarily do that. I think people look at that, by and large, as being kind of not their vision of what they're looking for in their wedding, and so we just don't do it, wrap it up.
Speaker 1:Going back to this question, bill, the simple answer is if you can do it, pitch it Right, right. If you don't think you can do it and they ask for it, just be completely transparent and honest and say I'm not very good at that skill set, we may need to find you another DJ, you know whether it's in your camp or you recommend somebody else in your city. Just, please, don't take shows that you're not comfortable doing. Right? I don't take mitzvahs, I don't take Latin shows. I don't. You know, I'm not good at that stuff. I'm not here. I'm just I'm not going to take the show. Yeah, it's just my sanity and my integrity and my reputation is more important than making four or five thousand dollars on a show.
Speaker 2:I just know I'm not going to be good, and if you need help with these things, you go to the DJ's vault, look up in there and see some things there, right?
Speaker 1:wwwthedjsvault man. Good episode, yeah, good episode. Thanks everybody for listening, for watching. We appreciate you. The best thing you can do for us, the most helpful thing you can do for us, in that we're only in season two, is please, please, please, leave us a review on any of the streaming platforms that you listen on and back next week, new episodes every Wednesday morning. Thanks y'all, see ya.