Beyond the DJ Booth
Brian B and Joe Bunn tackle questions about the private event DJ industry, share music, gear/gadgets, and stories from their events.
Beyond the DJ Booth
What the Charts Don’t Tell DJs
The charts are loud but the dance floor tells the truth.
In this episode, Brian B and Joe break down one of the biggest gaps working DJs face: what people stream vs what people actually move to at private events. Billboard, Spotify, TikTok, Apple Music, Shazam - they all paint a picture. But it’s not the picture that keeps a room dancing at 10:30pm.
We dig into why certain chart monsters like Taylor Swift dominate listens but don’t always land in peak moments, while catalog cuts like Fleetwood Mac’s “Dreams” and Goo Goo Dolls’ “Iris” keep sneaking their way back into emotional singalongs. We also unpack why the “big crossover party rap records” of the 2010s have all but vanished and how that flips the modern DJ playbook on its head.
You’ll hear how we use chart data for smarter programming without getting trapped by it:
- What TikTok trends can teach you and what to ignore
- Why Shazam spikes matter more than streams
- How seasonal revivals (Janet Jackson?!) can surprise your sets
- Which covers and edits refresh ceremony + dinner without killing vibe
- The remixes that bridge decades without wrecking energy or key
We also talk business. Brian shares a hospitality hack every working DJ should keep in their bag: individually wrapped earplugs that turn complaints into gratitude (and sometimes gratuity) instantly. And for owners dealing with the nightmare of losing a key team member, we map a calm, practical path forward: internal promotion, admin support, and avoiding the panic hire.
If you’re a private event DJ who wants to read the room, not the rankings, this episode will give you the tools to select smarter, respond faster, and build dance floors that don’t lie.
Subscribe to our Patreon for early access, grab our weekly banger lists, and drop a review with the track that’s unexpectedly crushing for you right now and we’ll test it live.
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What's up, Boothheads? Welcome back to the podcast. That's the Beyond the DJ Booth podcast. I'm one of your co-hosts, Brian B. This is my other co-host, Joe Bunn. Good to see you, bud. What's up, dude? I love to say bud to you because I know how much you love that. You know what I mean? It's a coffee shop.
SPEAKER_02:We have. I feel like we we hung up.
SPEAKER_01:You must be getting ready for a conference or something.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_01:We are batch recording, by the way.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, batch recording exactly, I think, what is it, 10 days before the DJ collective?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. But this one will release December 3rd. December 3rd. We'll be in uh holiday mode at that point. You put your tree up around then? You know what? Tara was gonna do it this past weekend. Stop. I'm not kidding. She said she was about to do it, but then she ran out of she ran out of steam. So she said she's gonna hold up. I'm like, we have to wait till at least Turkey Day is over.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_01:That would be the earliest we've ever done it.
SPEAKER_02:I'm okay with the Turkey Day weekend.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. So am I. Yeah, it's like kind of a turn of the calendar.
SPEAKER_02:But yeah, I saw you for Halloween. Annie came over. She was adorable. I saw you. We went to eat some Chinese food the night before. Solid, solid. Hanging out. Yeah, it's been good, man. We've been hanging out, guys, off the podcast.
SPEAKER_01:We really are friends. Yeah, we are. Speaking of friends, yes. Let's shout out some of our backroom Patreon members that we have.
SPEAKER_02:That was brilliant. Segue, bro. You know, you like that? Yeah. So shout out, yeah, these people are back room members of the Patreon, and you should be as well. Shout out Brent Johnson, Athena, Preston Duggar. And is it Lucas Henrix? I think it's Hendricks or Heinrich. I always kind of mess it up.
SPEAKER_01:These are just some of them. We're going to shout some out every time we get some new members in. So we just wanted to shout these OGers because they're the ones who kind of jumped on quick. If you want to be a part of the Patreon, we'd love to have you. A lot of good stuff being posted in there. I'm very proud of the Patreon.
SPEAKER_02:As somebody that's also a supporter of other content creators and editors, sometimes I feel like they go dark for long periods of time. Me and you are posting stuff in there, I would say two to three to four times a week. Yeah. Whether it is songs, song lists, tips, advice, responding to questions from the members. Like it is direct access to us. So patreon.com slash beyond the DJ Booth Podcast. So check that out.
SPEAKER_01:Speaking of other friends, we got a review in recently that I thought we should look at. It's from Germany, man. We are passing the Atlantic, man. We're going over close across the way. Yeah. You read that. He basically says that it's a DJ podcast that not only provides real value, but also offers genuine insights. I found this podcast by chance a week ago, and it's been such a breath of fresh air compared to the ad field shows I'd find in Germany. I'm glad we don't put up too many ads in here. As a new DJ, the genuine value and unfiltered insights hooked me. I binged every episode in a week and now can't wait for each new one. Thanks for the great work. Greetings from Germany.
SPEAKER_02:Lemme segue. You know what he needs to do? I know exactly what he needs to do. Join the damn Patreon. Yeah. He gets he gets it. Early access. Early access bonus episode. Yeah. That's the move. I don't want to, I don't want to go too far.
SPEAKER_01:But I'll say this: if you want to leave us a review, these help us get this out there. This is how this person stumbled across it.
SPEAKER_02:Where was this review? Do you know on Apple or Spotify?
SPEAKER_01:No, I think it was on our website. Is that really where we want them? It could be any place. Okay. Anyplace at this point.
SPEAKER_02:We would prefer to leave a review on something like Spotify or Apple Podcasts. That would be my preference. I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_01:But we'd love them. So if you're enjoying it, can you help a brother out, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, help a brother out. Leave us a review. Seriously. It does help. I think it bumps the algorithm. Listening to the day of the drop, which is always Wednesday, that helps. I mean, anything helps, guys. We are trying to get our numbers up and you know get more eyes and ears on the podcast.
SPEAKER_01:All right. Administration stuff out of the way. Admin out of the way. Let's move to our next segment. Some music. And he's playlist here. So I don't have any tracks to play. I just thought we would look at some charts because some charts are always good to at least look at. I know we don't play in clubs where we gotta have the hottest and freshest stuff out, but I just thought it's interesting to see all of these different charts because they all hit a different segment. As an example, this is Billboard's top 10. Now, this is as of what, November 5th, I think it is today. Okay. So 30 days before this comes out is you're looking at the charts. Okay. And Billboard is probably the most comprehensive. I looked it up to see what the differences were in charts. Is it just streams or whatever? This includes album sales, streams as well. There's like a bunch of things, YouTube views, there's other kind of things that are in this one. Okay. But this is their top 10. And I was just curious of these top 10, are you playing any of these regularly? Are you giving them on your playlist requests for events?
SPEAKER_02:Yes. I mean, number one, the fate of Ophelia. I definitely have played that and Opalite before. Okay. That looks like number four. I'm I wish I had brought my glasses for this. I've had several requests for ordinary during dinner. Well, you skip number two, bro. Oh, I'm sorry. Number two. Yeah. I I skipped it intentionally. I'm gonna tell you right now, Trago or anybody else, all you little K-pop demon hunters running around out there, not once. And me and Saquon have been on a freaking grind. You know, I've been playing and you've been playing multiple shows a week. Not once, even at an international thing we did last Tuesday, has somebody come up and ask for Golden. Not once.
SPEAKER_03:True story, true story.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you. So I don't know who's listening to that. Maybe it's children, maybe it's Trago, the DJ in Arizona running around his little tidy whitey boxers bumping golden at his house. Umrdinary. I've played a remix for it. Which one? Do you know? That's a great question. I'd have to come back to you on that one. But is it like for dancing or is it? Yeah, it's more dancing. Yeah. But I've also been playing it for dinner, and I've also played it for several ceremonies.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:I think it was a like a piano guy.
SPEAKER_01:There's a wedding version too. Yeah. Like a slower he did the ordinary of yes.
SPEAKER_02:The ceremony versions I've played were covers by someone. Got it. Taylor again. What's the next one? Man I need. I told you about this one, Olivia Dean. I love the song. I don't know that it works for the dance floor. Really? Are you playing the what are you what version do you have?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I played the original before. The episode that we are recording kind of in a weird order. You're going to hear it.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, later.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Then what? That's Justin Bieber, Daisy's.
SPEAKER_02:Listen, man, nobody's hyped up those two albums more than me. I I mean, I think that's a perfect pop song. Again, it's going to need to be an edit for the dance for. Then what?
SPEAKER_03:Folded Kaylani. Oh. Not for me.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I know Kaylani, but I don't know the record. Then Taylor Swift. Taylor again. What's the name of the Elizabeth Taylor?
SPEAKER_03:Elizabeth Taylor. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:No. Never heard it. I mean, I know that record well. I mean, I actually listens to it on repeat. I told her today, like, even on I wake up to FM radio, like I told you before. They'll play the Fate of Ophelia, but there's also Opalite. Should be a s will be a single.
SPEAKER_01:The one with uh Sabrina.
SPEAKER_02:Uh that one. Um Life of a Showgirl, and then Cancelled. Like that's a Woods, a good one. Woods about Wieners. That should be big.
SPEAKER_03:What's the last one on this list? I got better. Oh, it's more Morgan Wallet.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I love that song. I mean, again, not a dance wood song, but so anyway, what's your point?
SPEAKER_01:I guess just like being Taylor Swift is a god. Yeah. Right. So let's go to the second one here. This is going to be Top Ten on Spotify. So these are pretty much streams only. It's pretty much the same.
SPEAKER_02:Very simple. Very similar, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But Back to Friends by Somber, number four, I think, on the list. I do like that guy a lot.
SPEAKER_02:Horrible performer.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the seven and eight are both Demon Hunter, your boys. But then I thought this was interesting. Dreams. Fleetwood Mac, number nine. Holy shit. I wonder why. No, no, no. Maybe it's social. The goo goo dolls? And then the goo gooo dolls, number 10. Iris? Iris is back. It is on playlist for me. I know, me too. But I don't know what is causing this. What? So it's just interesting. These are the top 10. November 5th, 2025.
SPEAKER_02:What? Top 50 US? Top 50 US. And that's the top 10. That's the top 10. And one of them is over 40 years old, and the other one is probably 30 years old. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? That's crazy, dude. So it's got to be trending on TikTok.
SPEAKER_01:My point here is this is great to see because you should be playing Dreams.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, you should play it anyway. But I I love Dreams. Right. And I have an edit with uh circles post-malone. Do you ever play that one?
SPEAKER_01:I don't play that one anymore. It's a good one. Yeah, I like that.
SPEAKER_02:I have a couple good versions of Dreams. Iris during dinner. Didn't you tell me you played that and everybody in the building was singing along? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Stood up. Stood up. Stood up. Eating chicken. Yeah. Sway. Chicken. Sway. Yo. Yeah. Nid chicken. It was crazy. I was like, bro, this what the hell? Where's this coming from? And I love the goog. Who done? You know what I mean?
unknown:Who doesn't love the goo?
SPEAKER_01:All right, let's go next. This is Apple Music. From now on, when you do this, tell me to wear my glasses. Yeah, I will. So this is Apple Music. Obviously, you can just tell by the thumbnails. Dominated by Taylor. Crushed it. Uh Golden still up there at the top at number two. Man I need. And then I guess we got a bunch of Morgan Wallen on this one. I think we need to look into this Kaylani song. It's on there again. Where is that? Number five? Five. And then Little Baby. Is that little baby at the bottom? Number 14? Freestyle? I don't know that's rack. Interesting to see how they all differ, right? Like they're all kind of somewhat different, but somewhat similar.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, it to Taylor, it's all crushing. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01:All right. This is an interesting list. These are the top shazams. Oh, wow. Which are do you look at any of this stuff ever? No. Yeah, so it's just kind of good to see every now and then.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Randy does this for the company. So golden is the most shazammed. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. But then we got man, I know okay.
SPEAKER_01:So we got what did number four. What's up for the song, bro? So are the kids just not knowing what it is and they're just shazamming it?
SPEAKER_02:I guess. I mean, and I think they're walking around like a target and they're hearing, and I hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they're like, what the hell is this? And then Halloween came, so you got Rockwell, somebody's watching me. Same thing.
SPEAKER_01:Kalani again. Kalani. Back to Somber again. How about the next one?
SPEAKER_02:Bees in the trap.
SPEAKER_01:Bees in the trap?
SPEAKER_02:Wow. Nicki Minona. That's trending right now. Back to back with what's up. Have you heard it? No. To blend, and it goes something. And then and then you stand back to back with another person, and the first person singing. And I say, yeah. And then it's the same tempo and must be the same key. And then you spin the camera and it goes to the guy. Oh, I have seen that. And they get and they like, bitches ain't shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever it is. You know how it goes.
SPEAKER_01:Bees in the trap.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_01:But are you playing bees in the trap? See, like that's it. No, but I would. I don't hate it.
SPEAKER_02:I don't hate it either. I mean, when you go like halftime, like you drop down into that 60 or whatever. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Even playing what's up. Like again, I just think sometimes you're not going to be able to do that.
SPEAKER_02:I have a good edit of that. I need to break that and give you that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And then what's number 10? This is shot collin by Youngboy.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, Youngboy NBA. I don't think he can call himself NBA anymore. I think he's Youngboy never broke again.
SPEAKER_03:He's just Youngboy.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, that would that's what that's what the kids say. That's what the kids say. But this is we were talking about Youngboy the other day. Like this is crossed over to. I mean, he was here at Lenovo. Wow. There were 25,000 people there. Davis loves it. One of the few hip hop records, yeah. That's right. That's out. That's what the big chatter was this week. For the first time in 35 years, there is not any hip hop songs in the top 40. Interesting. I saw this relentlessly. I sent it to him, and I'm like, dude, and because I mean, as you know, Saquon's. Why is that? Why are they not hitting? They're putting out records. I'm gonna say my reason, and then I'm gonna let somebody that's 20 years younger than me saying that.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think I don't really think it's an issue. I don't think it's an issue. Why is it? Don't, don't, because Kendrick Jam Kendrick Lamar just was on there for like six months. True. So, okay, it happens one time that it didn't feel like a few years.
SPEAKER_02:Be honest. Okay. I don't want to say a lot of it's garbage. And but that's the old man in me speaking. Go ahead and say it's not made for me or something like that.
SPEAKER_03:Nah, because I mean I don't like a lot of the new stuff, but that I don't think I don't think that has anything to do with the actual genre.
SPEAKER_02:Like I I'll agree with that, but as somebody that has ridden with me for five years, what you would admit to and agree with, I think, is that people stopped. This is what me and you were talking about the other day. Stop making the party records. Where's uh hot in here? Where's Ja Rule? Where is and that was considered hip-hop. Yes, it's very pop, but those were hip-hop.
SPEAKER_03:Correct. I mean, I don't think hip-hop people care about crossing over anymore. Like, you can't go anywhere without hip-hop being there. I agree with that.
SPEAKER_02:No, like 100% ingrained in the culture, but I'm just saying, going back to the original question, my my thinking is why it's not on the top 40 is there's no party records, it doesn't cross over to white people, Hispanics, blacks, everybody's listening to Nelly or whatever. I'm just saying there is no current version 2026, Nelly.
SPEAKER_01:Nah. I was even hearing from some club DJs where it's like it's so interesting to see how the change in guard of what you would play as an opener. Back in the day, you would play all the throwbacks 10 years ago. Now the opener, you mean? Yeah, now like Nicki Minaj, all of our old stuff's like the hottest stuff of the night. You can't play that stuff anymore.
SPEAKER_02:Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_01:So it's almost like it's flipped where you all the openers are playing all the new stuff.
SPEAKER_02:Right, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_01:And saving all the old stuff for like peak hour. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Isn't that crazy how it's kind of flipped like that? Yeah. I don't miss that. I don't miss having to play in the club and try and figure this out.
SPEAKER_01:Totally. Last chart here. This is TikTok. They actually have a chart that shows not only this, but like the trend of how it's doing. Yeah, this is super small. Sorry. You're gonna have to help us out here, Saquon. I can't read it either. Rip through these.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. 1448 Mo P. Never heard of it. Haunted Water. Um, not even gonna try to pronounce that. Okay. So easy, Olivia Dean. So that's like her record. Yeah. Be that easy, side. Ooh, wow. Interesting. Spooky, scary skeleton. Right. I probably had to make Halloween. Jody Joe. Nope. Hotel room by Flaka.
SPEAKER_02:Not Waka Flaka?
SPEAKER_03:Nah. Okay. Rory and Sleazy O. Yeah, I don't know any of those. Christmas is coming. Makes sense. It is. Anytime, any place, Janet Jackson.
SPEAKER_01:Wow. So it's just interesting what's trending on TikTok, too. Holy meat. I mean, half of them I don't even know. The other half are some throwbacks, you know? And one is mainstream. That's bizarre. Right. Yeah. And I feel like this is probably the chart you have to probably pay the most attention to because if you're like doing school. If you're doing younger stuff, right? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Again, same reason why I don't do those kinds of dances anymore. Like that is impossible to figure out. Like you would have to be studying new stuff like the freaking Zapruder film.
SPEAKER_01:But it's crazy how it's got the trend lines.
SPEAKER_02:So you can kind of see if it's like Janet's way down straight to the moon. And that song is. I mean, I'm assuming that's an old Janet track.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know any. I don't know that one. Why are the kids listening to Janet?
SPEAKER_02:Because, dude, if somebody probably did a dance to it or shook their wiener or whatever they did.
SPEAKER_01:Everybody wants to do that dance. Anyway, this is why it was interesting to see some of the stuff. We don't really look at it. I don't look at it as much as I should either, but it's just interesting when you see them all in there. You can make some notes of some things together. From now on in the show notes, say glasses alert. When we're here to do these next years. Yeah, I'll make them bigger as well. All right, booth heads. We made a move and it's a bold one. We officially launched a Patreon. We've got two tiers. One for$5.99 and one for$19.99. Basically, the cost of a coffee or a cocktail, depending upon how you roll.
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unknown:Wow.
SPEAKER_01:These are actual foam earplugs. Yep. And this has saved me so many times at venues when you are in the corner. Baby's in the corner. Your speakers aren't right there. You're next to a table. And to be able to pull out, you know, these things are pre-packaged, as you can see. This is the great. I have had this idea a thousand times.
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SPEAKER_01:So we'll put the link. What do you think this box goes for? What's this gonna cost you?$19.99. That's on the money. Is it really? Yeah. For two hundred. And I mean, this goes such a long way. Such a long way. No, you're a hero. Yes, hero.
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SPEAKER_02:If this isn't the smartest thing of the entire episode, boom. There you go. Question of the day. You want to read it? I will. Here we go. David Nazario. Love this dude, man. I think he's coming down for the multi-op side, losing your right-hand man in your business, aka Randy. He's talking to me, I guess. What do you recommend for your next move? Oof. That'd be a tough loss for you. Randy left. Huge loss. I think I'm very fortunate in that there are some soldiers that have been with me for 10, 15, 20, 25 years. So the first thing I would look at, David, is I would look internal for a replacement. I would ask some of the guys, even if they had a full-time job, hey man, do you like what you're doing? You know, how much money are you making? Do you want to come work for me? Do you want to run the DJ portion of this business? Kind of show them. Hey, you know, Randy gets first dibs on most of the shows. Randy makes this much money a year. Like, is this something that's of interest to you? I would always start within versus going to, you know, indeed or something like that. Oh, yeah. And I think that it helps tremendously that the right hand man be an actual DJ. I have always spoken about that. And I think I know who he's talking about. I think I I don't want to get too personal, but I think his guy is battling cancer right now, which is super tough. Hopefully he pulls through and makes it. And this is a moot point. But I I do see as a business owner, I'd be like, damn, what am I gonna do? Right. You know, this guy does a lot of work for me. And he is a DJ. And so it's a tough position to be in, you know. That is what I would do, man. That's where I would start. And then secondly, if you feel like you need to go somewhere else, I would put an ad on Indeed, and I would be hyper specific about what I'm paying, what I need, what the responsibilities are. And then maybe, you know, you do go outside of the DJ field in this, and you just say you're looking for a, you know, an office manager or an executive assistant or however you want to classify it. Yeah. What what about you, Brian? I mean, I know that I don't know what this you kind of do a lot of the stuff. You got Sean, I think, that does some stuff I did at one point.
SPEAKER_01:Right hand, man, when you're saying in your business, does that mean more on the performance side or does that mean like doing more of the business?
SPEAKER_02:I think more administrative shows, writing contracts, sending out proposals, taking money. I mean, Randy does a lot.
SPEAKER_01:To me, that's a lot easier of a patched job in the short term than it would be if we're talking about shows. Right. Because if this is happening to his guy right now, we're in what in the tail end of October where it's last peak hit of the November coming up. I've got like three this weekend. You know what I mean? So like I got a lot going on. Yeah. That would be tough for me to fill. Yeah. Because everyone's booked, everyone's out. But I feel like on the business side, I mean, we're I think you speaking business. Okay. So on the business side, I feel like it's a little bit easier to patch it for now to get through this crazy like season you can still perform and you're not pulling your hair out. So that might be hiring a VA or finding somebody on uh you know, you know, locally even just whatever. Yeah. Because you're just talking about admin work for the most part. Yeah. Right. Now, when it comes to training people and all of that, that I know Randy does too, then you can ask your team and start to work your way down it. But I think for the interim, I wouldn't settle. I guess is my point.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I wouldn't settle for somebody who just shows enthusiasm for wanting to do it if they're not the right fit. If you had a guy and you've not seen them do any admin work, how do you really know, even though if they're excited about it, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. It would be tough. I mean, again, I still, though, I know these people, I trust these people. They know the culture, they know how the company runs it. And it's the same answer to the question when people ask me, Joe, how do you, you know, let people license your name and open these offices in other states and you're not there and you don't find the talent, you don't go out with them and watch them perform. And I'm like, because every single one of those people worked here at some point and they know this company upside down. And they know that Joe wouldn't take this guy. Joe wouldn't stand for this bullshit. You know what I mean? Yeah. And we've been hyper successful with it. Good question, though, David. I really, really pray that you know things things turn more positive. We'll share that link if you send that to me again. We'll share that link out. That uh I think they had started to support like a little GoFund action. That's awesome. Good episode, dude. Just thank our sponsor and close it out. Yeah, thank you, DJ Event Planner, as always, for being the CRM of Choice for myself and Brian B and trillions of DJs across the world. We appreciate you guys. DJ Eventplanner.com. See you guys in the next episode. Thanks, y'all.
