Beyond the DJ Booth
Brian B and Joe Bunn tackle questions about the private event DJ industry, share music, gear/gadgets, and stories from their events.
Beyond the DJ Booth
Fun Fact: Networking Works
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You can be an incredible DJ and still feel stuck if nobody knows you well enough to refer you. We get honest about networking for DJs, what actually moves the needle, and why “just posting more” is not a substitute for real relationships.
We break down the industry groups that have consistently turned into bookings and vendor trust for us, including NACE, WIPA, and ILEA, plus the simple habits that make those memberships pay off: show up, volunteer, meet the new venue contacts before your competitors do, and stop clustering with your own friends at events. Then we zoom out to networking outside the wedding industry with founder dinners and entrepreneur dinner clubs. One dinner leads to a surprising connection with a creator running a massive paid email list, which sparks a bigger point: the best contact might be someone with the audience and clients you want, not just someone in your lane.
After that, we switch gears into DJ music programming, sharing a few vibey tracks that are working for cocktail hour and dinner, plus a quick conversation on AI covers and how to think about them responsibly. We also hit Gear Corner with travel-friendly picks, and wrap with a real-world question every wedding DJ and event DJ faces: what to review when the dance floor falls flat, how to collect accurate feedback, and how to rebound without spiraling.
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What's up, everybody? Welcome back to Beyond the DJ Booth from Raleigh, North Carolina. The studio, as we like to say. The lab. The lab. Is that what you call it? That's what I call it. What do you call it?
SPEAKER_06The lab. We're in the lab.
SPEAKER_04All right. I feel like I need the lab coats. We're gonna do the call at the lab. I'm Brian B. And next to me is Joe Bunn.
SPEAKER_02Yes, indeed. Dude, think about the amount of content we've made in this room. Not just a podcast. This dude, Saquon, has made albums down here. Oh, full on albums. Right. Artwork. We've shot videos in the parking lot. Like the amount of crack actors shit back here. Shot videos out there in the lobby in the common area. Like that's crazy. It it really is crazy. Over I think I've been here 10 years. I still, by the way, do not know what I'm gonna do when September comes. Yeah. I have nothing. I've got nothing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Well, maybe keep it on for another month or two.
Patreon Community Shoutouts
SPEAKER_02Month a month. Month a month that I swear to God, I was not gonna pay rent again, but here we are.
SPEAKER_04Well, if you are new to the podcast, we actually have a community that we utilize through Patreon. And that's where we're able to do some cool things in there, like uh playlists and bonus content. I'll just kind of leave it at that. We do some giveaways, a bunch of different things. If you're not familiar with it, you should check it out. We've got two different tiers, and one of the things we like to do at the beginning of every episode is shout out some of our Patreon backroom members, uh, people who've joined recently, and uh Corey Harmon from Bird's Nest. What I didn't even know that was a city.
SPEAKER_02Bird's Nest, Virginia. I didn't either. Shout out Corey Harman and uh Dave Mancini from Valencia, California. I used to live near Valencia, Valencia.
SPEAKER_04Was that Southern California? Southern California, man. Damn. Cool place, dude. We kind of hung out uh not too long ago. Who? Me and you and you. It was your birthday. It was my birthday, and uh shout out Rombi's birthday. Uh place that wrecked your stomach, uh, apparently. Oh my shit. But you liked it at first. I did. It just came back to haunt you.
SPEAKER_02Something got me, man. And then, dude, I had No, no, no. No, this place got me. It got oh, the hot sauce. Yeah, bro. Yeah, no, it wasn't Mr. Wong's or what I'm gonna do. Oh, God, I was worried.
SPEAKER_04I was like, the hot sauce got me. I woke up that same night, not not having the problem in the bathroom, but my throat was on fire.
Raleigh Game Show Night Recap
SPEAKER_02I'm telling you. He this so we what is this you tell him?
SPEAKER_04All right, so you know, my wife's like, dude, we can't just do a dinner, we need to do something. And I'm like, all right, let's look around. She sent me this thing, it was called the Raleigh Game Show. Brand new, brand new, apparently, uh, near my house, literally right down the street. Yeah. So we went to this place. I thought it was pretty nice. Dude, I thought it was great. Like for what they did to the space.
SPEAKER_02Yep. Um, they had a couple of movers, they had that LED dance floor, video wall, right? Uh, and then 12 podiums with a buzzer. Boop, boop, boop, boop. Yeah. And they could play up to 12 people. Yeah, family feud.
SPEAKER_04And how it works is basically you can rent it out yourself. Yeah. Like, or if it's already had some people who've registered, you register online. You can't just walk in. Yeah. I don't think. Yeah. Um, and so they had six spots. So I invited six people. Oh, and then another couple. A couple showed up. They were supposed to be more, but they backed out. And so I don't know if this guy called some regulars or what happened, how that how they came in and about it. But what I loved about the game show in general was that they moved fast. The games were not like you weren't bored. No. Like it moved pretty quick. They were all different. So I felt like if you weren't good at one, you weren't gonna be as sucky at all of them. Yeah. But they did do one, which was the fear factor.
SPEAKER_02And he goes, hot or spicy or crunchy. And we all said spicy. Yeah, I'm like crunchy. Old boy walks out with a chick, with a Chick-fil-A nugget. And it's this a dap. A dap. Like the dab, like he said it was an eyedropper he put from one of those hot wing challenges.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. And he said it was what, an eight? I think he said it was an eight.
SPEAKER_00Level eight.
SPEAKER_04Bro, at first I mean this way, I'm like, oh, this is nothing. Then I'm talking for 24 hours, my whole throat.
SPEAKER_02I thought I'm tore my asshole. Swear to God, bro.
SPEAKER_03One drop on one chicken nugget. I woke up in the middle of the night like 3 a.m. I'm like, I can still feel it in the back of my throat.
SPEAKER_02And the next morning I woke up, I was like, oh, sweet mother of Mary, help me. I texted Brian, I was like, bro, I'm in trouble, man.
SPEAKER_03That damn what time of night was it?
SPEAKER_02Nine?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I was like nine late.
SPEAKER_02But boy, that thing just went. 12 hours later, it came back home.
SPEAKER_03Three or four in the morning, I'm like, I don't know how I get rid of this.
SPEAKER_02Because there's nothing you can do. It was burning like my esophagus and my rectum. So bad, dude. But we had fun though.
SPEAKER_04Brian won. I did. Yeah, it was crazy. Uh, we kind of just paired up in couples, and that was fun. I probably would do it like individual.
SPEAKER_02No, I'm 1,000% taking my team here. Because I was thinking do like two shifts. Because we have 20 some people. So do do everybody's got their own podium, right? We paired up, but I mean everybody's got their own podium, and say five to seven or five to six thirty is the first shift, and then the second group of guys come at like 6:30 to 8 or whatever. It was like one hour, a little over an hour. Yeah. The host was super cool. He owned the place. Young guy, I mean, young-ish, you know, probably late 30s, early 40s. He was pretty funny on the mic, like, but not corny, corny. No. Nice guy. He was like, I was in corporate America and just had this idea and and it popped off on TikTok, and now we're busy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. We did some music. Uh the music challenge was extremely hard because it was not just normal, like, hey, uh, name that tune. It was warped. It was so starts to switch slower and get faster.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, and we and I'd be like, oh shit.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. That was a kind of an interesting game. Yeah, that was tough.
SPEAKER_02Tough. That was fun, man.
SPEAKER_04They did the uh what was it, the uh Jeopardy theme thing that went pretty well as well. Jeopardy, that, Fear Factor Family Fuse Wheel of Fortune, Wheel of Feud. Oh, yeah, they did. They did for one of them, yeah. I don't remember how it worked.
SPEAKER_06You had to guess the word or whatever.
SPEAKER_04They did have that, yeah. They did have that. Yeah, they had that. That's how it started. Yeah, yeah. It was pretty good. I mean, so I don't know if this is just in our area or if this is a new uh something like this, but it was a function.
SPEAKER_02He had printed out probably a thousand, maybe two thousand square feet, something like that. The front was kind of like a little party room with a little bar, yeah, a couple of tables. That room didn't look great, but the back room looked great. Yeah. For a game show.
NACE Awards And Champagne Regrets
SPEAKER_04They had beer and wine and nothing hard liquor, but they had the other stuff there, so that was cool. So, anyways, uh speaking of hard liquor. Uh-oh.
SPEAKER_02Bro, I the NACE awards were last night or the night before, right? So our Triangle NACE Award. Yeah. We entered for award, didn't win. Second year in a row. I don't know how to TJ? Uh best TJ. I don't know how to fucking write these things, apparently. Oh, okay. I mean, last year I kind of phoned it in because I was like, well, we're just gonna win. And we didn't. Yeah. We lost to like a one-man DJ. Wow. This year again, we lost to a one-man DJ. And I don't know. This year is that you know them? Yeah, I mean, they're they're they're both good guys and good. I mean, I don't want to just Yeah, yeah, I got it. And and and the the entries are sent off to third party out of state vendors to judge. Why would they do that? Because I don't think they want us to be biased to our own friends. So how do they judge it? That they've never seen any you send any materials. It's a write-up. It's a write-up in all the photos. Like I picked that beach wedding from last year with the those sisters that I've done. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, gorgeous girl, gorgeous guy. Parents are gorgeous, pictures are gorgeous, the dance floor was gorgeous, the the setting when the sun came out at the beach. I mean, yeah, and I write it accordingly. Like I've done this, you know, sister's wedding, and you know, I here's I mean, video clips, photographs, like the professional ones, not shit on my camera. And I'm like, I don't know what these guys are writing, but I obviously didn't need to like hire somebody, yeah, like a copywriter. Yeah. I mean, I tried to chat GPT it and then tweak it this time instead of phoning it in like I did last year. Yeah, still lost. But your boy won best dressed, male.
SPEAKER_04This was another award you uh voted in?
SPEAKER_02Uh no, this was just they have At that event. Yeah, they'd have people roaming around at the event. Yeah, at the event, I'm the best dressed. Got it. Because I took a suit that I didn't really like, I sent it to my son. The purple? Nope, not the purpose. The purp is like a go-to. Yeah, I can't get rid of that. Yeah, this was like a too pale blue. Aqua? The aqua too pale. Okay. Too pale blue. Too pale. Almost like baby blue, like you would paint a nursery. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Not good with a ultra pale. But that's Carolina, right? No, Carolina, if you really look at the color, is more like that painting. Oh, okay. Okay. It's not, it was back in the 70s, like baby blue. It's it's it's changed though. It's changed a lot over the years. So you wouldn't wear this one normally? I sacrificed this. Send it to my son who's in fashion design school down in Atlanta. I was like, and I was like, here's the inspiration. Chris Martin Coldplay, like those suits that he wears when they're on stage, which has like stars and statches and stuff. And Bro, he kind of he kind of crushed it. Yeah. He had painted on it, he had drawn on it, he had added all these embellishments down the bottom. Love it. That's awesome. And so shout out Colin Bunn. Shout out me winning. But the the the the downside was they the award was a bottle of that Vouve Clicot. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You opened it up. I popped it. At the event. I'm walking around with it all night. Oh, bottle in hand. Bottle in hand, Randy's DJing. You're not he's he's killing it. I'm not ashamed of the biggest. You're like Tito's That's it. Yeah, I'm a purist. Yeah, Tito's soda lime. Yeah. Boy, I was fucking. The bubbles got me. It got me, bro. I didn't like right away. No, man, but but like like Randy's stopping, and I look around, I'm like, the lonely dude left there. And I'm like, the bottle's gone, and I'm just like, what are we doing? And he's like, it's over. I'm like, huh? And I was just sideways, dude. Saquon said champagne will get you.
SPEAKER_04Did it hurt the next morning?
SPEAKER_02Yes, dude. I and I never ever get hung. And yesterday I felt like shit. And I just pushed through. You know, it's not uh, I mean, I'm still woke up at seven o'clock and still came here and still did what I do, but I was like, Well, you're just like, I'm gonna get some greasy fries. I did. I went just fillet and just like loaded up, trying to come back. Yeah, caught some Gatorade. I bought some damn coconut water. I'm like, I gotta get out of this.
SPEAKER_04This is it's Wednesday. Yeah, you can't mix. Because you probably also had Tito's, too, but yeah, you can't mix that stuff. I it was a champagne, it was a bad decision. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so no more voodoo.
SPEAKER_06Nah, you're gonna you're gonna pass it.
SPEAKER_02I'm all I ain't doing the champagne.
SPEAKER_06Okay, just don't drink it out of the bottle, bro. That wasn't smart.
SPEAKER_02It was not, it was unregulated. The guy didn't want to give me the bottle, and I said, It's my bottle. Like I'm yelling at him. That's so funny.
SPEAKER_04Well, this that's a good segue because we're gonna talk about networking.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_04This is kind of inspired by um a DM from Maddie Stewart. You sent it to me, who mentioned he's looking or he's lacking on the networking side. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I was about to time out you. Did you go to that dinner thing the other day? I did. I'm gonna talk about it. Okay.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So uh his question was really like what networking groups are we a part of? Which ones should DJs consider joining? And more importantly, how has going to these events or being a member enhanced your business? I mean, you're uh the networking king, so I'm sure you're gonna do them all. Which ones? Is it always the same two, though, that you tend to want to do? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I mean well, it was three. I mean, we have NACE, National Association of Catering and Events. Yeah. I would go so far as to say if you had a chapter within an hour of you, what was the guy's name? Uh Stewart. Stewart, I would I would join it and I would go. Maddie Stewart, sorry. I would go. Maddie Stewart. I would go. Literally, if you had a chapter within an hour of you, I would actually go. Uh we had an ILEA chapter up until two years ago. Okay. Uh International Live Events Association.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I bet I was a member of that for 20 years. I think I'm at least 20 years in NASE. And then WIPA started here three years ago. Yeah. And I was up until recently a member of that. I know you're a member of that. Our WIPA chapter covers the entire state. Right. It's not just a Raleigh thing. So, and that's wedding intern wedding industry, professional association or something. If you have any of those three, I would within an hour of you, yeah, I would go. I would join and go.
SPEAKER_04What I mean, what uh fruits have come from that? Does it sped up the referral network? 100%.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. It is, it is, it is divide and conquer, because Randy has a NACE membership as well.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02And normally, other than the other night, they put us at the same table for the gala, but normally uh it's choose your own table. And I'm like, don't sit with me, man. Yeah. Mark Tony started going. Oh, I did see him there. Yeah, I'm like, let's let's let's go to other tables, divide and conquer. Especially these, you know, these these girls and guys that are in their 20s now. Right. They're new. They don't know us. Yeah, yeah. Or somebody that's been brought in from Michigan to run the new Weston. They don't know us. Right. Now there is a lot of interchanging positions. Like the girl at the Crabtree Marriott. Right. Uh, I did her wedding last year. She's leaving, but she's going to the Bradford. The girl that used to be at the Crabtree Marriott is now at the Weston. So, like, but again, we met those people at the SNACE meeting, and they love us now. Yeah. So I cannot tell you the value of it any better than that. And and volunteer to DJ the cocktail hour, volunteer to donate a mic for the speaker, uh, be on the board. I'm on the board this year for the first time in a few years on the programs committee. That's how I got Brian to speak there two weeks ago. By the way, that video went up Monday. I don't know if you saw. I didn't. Yeah, you're in it. Okay, cool. The one that you're in. Oh, I did see that. Yeah, I got tagged. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So anything outside of the industry, like not industry related that you are considering, like, you know, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02We're a member of Shop Local Raleigh, which is kind of like a small local group. Yeah. Um membership's not much, probably. It's$100 a year or something like that. And I feel like every once in a while she'll probably throw our name out to people because there's probably not a lot of DJs in it. As much as I want to tell you that we've been active with the Chamber of Commerce, we haven't. Right. But I I know there's business there.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Corporate business.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And I feel like if you'll come and they have a meeting every week. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Totally.
SPEAKER_02If you would join your chamber of commerce and get up and go to these morning meetings, I promise you that there's business there. And you're going to be the coolest person in the room. Totally. But I'm not going to sit here and lie to you and tell you that I do that. Yeah. There's only so many hours in a day.
SPEAKER_04Knowing that that question was coming, I knew that you'd hit those organizations. So I kind of want to hit the other ones, maybe. There's a bunch now that are popping up like on Facebook. Yeah. Or I'm literally in a WhatsApp community now, like a channel on my WhatsApp. Yeah. That is for networking. And the names locals? Uh there are some. Yeah. So it's it's a national association, but then there's local people who can join it from all over the US. Money or no money? Uh no, it's money. So it's like uh, I don't know, 500 bucks a year. It's not crazy. They throw little events all over the country, but uh one would be E3. There's a merge is another one. I wrote a couple of them down here. Um there's also just DJ ones, like uh the one that I do with Brock, the retreat that we do. It's a community as well. Small, it's not a uh we don't throw a conference, we have a little get together once a year. That's pretty much it. Um, and then I was gonna talk about the one you were about to previously.
SPEAKER_02Well, before you talk about that one, have you been vetted though to be an EO or gone to one of their oh no dinners, entrepreneurial organization or something like that? It's a huge, a national thing. Okay. It's very, very expensive, and it is very, very time inclusive, time demand head. Right. Um but I went to the dinner and I listened to the whole pitch. This was six months ago or something at a car club. Yeah, which was cool just to be at a car club with all these Porsches and Ferraris and Lamborghinis and stuff. But um EO is another huge group. National, national. But I get I I still get asked for them to come and still be a member. Um, but then I started getting targeted by that thing you went to the other night. So I was thinking, like, hey, I don't really do anything in this.
Founder Dinners Outside The Industry
SPEAKER_04I know you. Yeah. And like I as I was doing the birthday thing, I was like, I don't know many people here. Yeah. So I'm like, I don't really work here. I don't need to necessarily, but I was like, I need to get out of my bubble. I need to like push out a little bit. So I got targeted for this group, and it's called the Entrepreneural Dinner Club. Yeah. They basically charge like, I don't know, 80 bucks a month, I think is what it is, and they just organize it. And essentially you go to this, it's a different restaurant. Every it's dinner. It's like just break basically breaking bread.
SPEAKER_02The ad to to for those of you that that don't aren't getting targeted by it, or maybe it's not in your area. It just said have dinner with 10 entrepreneurs. Yeah, or they call them founders. It's called a founder's trend. That's what it was. So were you getting emails from them too? I think I got emails.
SPEAKER_04And I got text. I don't know how they got my number. They got text you. They got text me. Oh name. So anyway, so you go. I I went. I couldn't I joined last month, but I couldn't make the dinners. You don't have to make them. You're gonna get charged regardless. So they have, you know, they're making their money regardless if you show up or not. But if you say you commit, they want you to commit, and then they basically say, Hey, you are in a table of six people. They try to uh pair you with people that you want to be connected with or industries that you're interested in at your table. Where what was the restaurant? Uh oh, dude, you talked about the chicken the other day. It was my one of my go-tos here. Uh, what's that place um near across the street from the your uh ladies' studio? Mammy Nora's? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Um no, uh it's the the southern spot. They do waffles and chicken. Oh, yeah, tu below honey. Toupelo honey. Yeah, yeah. One of my go-tos when I first got here. Oh, yeah. That chicken, the dusty chicken. Oh my god. It's got seasoning on it. Bro. Sounds like seasoning. Crack. Okay. Crack. Okay, all right. So I show up there, and I'm like, I don't know what's gonna happen here. I have no idea. Right. I'm like, is there a guy who's gonna moderate? Like, are we gonna hear a speech? Yeah. I don't know what's happening. Right. There was nobody there from that organization. It was literally, you just they just organized it and said, they sent me a text said, You're table one. Let them know when you arrive to go to table one. So I go to table one, I'm like, hey, I'm Brian. Everybody except for one person, this was their first time. They all joined either that week or the week before to this group. And I don't know.
SPEAKER_02How many total people were there?
SPEAKER_04Uh, maybe 18. Okay. So they had three or four tables. Sure. I never got out of my table to go meet anybody else because it wasn't really like that. You're just literally ordering a meal. You pay for the meal in addition to the fee you're doing, yeah, 80 bucks or whatever. Um, but I had a girl at my table. It was very male-dominated, which I was surprised at too. I thought it would be a lot female driven. Uh-huh. Bro, this girl, she does um, she's got about 150,000 uh followers on Instagram. Okay. She sells digital products. Primarily, her big hustle is selling uh deals on airlines for business class or hire only, not like the junior stuff. She has a mailing list of 60,000 paying people to get on the mailing list. You have to pay to get on the to get these deals. 200 bucks. Do the math. 200 bucks. A mother a year. 200 bucks a year times 60,000. Right. And you get these deals. So uh I put a picture of a here's the the invitation. It basically it says that it's in like multiple cities, like uh they got a thousand members in 20 plus cities, it says. Um, so if you're interested, check out this uh websites at the bottom there, it kind of lists you where you can go and check it out. But um, I saw I started following her on Instagram. They were intrigued by me being a traveling DJ for whatever reason. That was like a big point of conversation. But uh, she posted this on her Instagram story uh the the next day. Go ahead and go to the next slide.
SPEAKER_02It's no, that's what I was saying, though, man. In in any setting like this, whether it's the chamber or even in a wedding thing, you're you as a DJ, the people listening to this, are the most interesting fucking person in the room. Totally. I'm sorry. Like, I'm no offense to the planners or the the florists or the tent tent people, but you're the most interesting person in the room.
SPEAKER_04Totally. I was getting me, I was pinging this girl's brain though, because I'm like 60,000 people. I'm doing the math of my head. I'm like, I need to get that many on my Patreon. So she found this ticket. Uh, it's$200 a month or$200 a year, I'm sorry. And she found this business class. This is$1,500 for an overseas trip and business class and a live flat seat instead of$5,000 for that ticket. So you're more than making your money on this. 100%. Right? Um, I just bought my Australia tickets. Stupid, dude. Thousands and thousands and thousands. Should have done it right, you know. So, anyways, the and you're buying up a service? Here's the deal. I'm going to, yeah, for sure. Because the other thing about this, and she says this down below, she doesn't do it on points. It's all cash. So, why is that important? Because cash gets you miles on the airline for a business class ticket, which is usually in this case, so then you add miles on the air. You're not the early account. Yeah. So you might earn a hundred thousand miles on one to Australia. But how is she doing it? She has, dude, I ironically, I said, Hey, how are you doing it? She's got she uses uh the Filipino VA service, the same one that we do. Oh, wow. And she has three or four of them working round the clock. On top of that, I'll talk to you about this later. But she basically has a screen um tracker. So she knows that they're working. I need to get all that right. So, anyways, um, but the best thing about her was the name of her business. So her name is Ashley. Uh, her name of her business, and this is her Instagram handle, Ashley gets around.
unknownWow.
SPEAKER_03Which I thought was genius.
SPEAKER_04So genius. So they brought the bill to her, you know, for her own thing, and they're like, what are you really? They thought she was like an OnlyFans or like, you know, prostitution or whatever. Right. And she was like super like snarky and whatever in a good way, like just putting people on bus. She's like, Yeah, people look at me like when I go to the bank or whatever, they're like, look at my business name or whatever. And she wants to say to them, like, I'm making way more money than you are at that teller position right now. Let me just put it that way. You know, who cares? You know, if it was OnlyFans. Yeah, exactly. But the way I looked at it was like that, she's targeting the kind of people I want to be in front of. What would it be for me to sponsor an ad on her mailing list to people who have the money to do business class? Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. So you never know what you're gonna walk into, to your point. Like you said, we're interesting. Yeah, I'm looking at like, okay, because there were some other people who did uh, there's a guy who does like home health care. I'm like, right, I was hoping this was not gonna be a bunch of realtors. Yeah, realtors. I'm like, I don't want that's not gonna help my business. But this one girl, it's like, you're my contact for that. I need to kind of like stay connected to. They started following me. I started following some of them, so it was just kind of a cool thing, and it was a good meal, didn't cost me much. I don't get out a ton, so for me, this was like a cool thing to do.
SPEAKER_02So a group like this, founder dinner then could be good for you.
SPEAKER_04So good for you. I'm glad you did it. The other one that's like yeah, the other one that's got mentioned too is Cave Days, is another one that's really good. So if you check it out, Fast Company has a big write-up on them.
SPEAKER_02And uh yeah, you wanted that Whip a working thing this week or whatever it is, office days or whatever.
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Monthly Music Picks And Edits
SPEAKER_04So anyway, wanted to talk a little bit about it. Ashley gets around, dude. What a great name, right? Uh, I wanted to hit Was she cute? Um, yeah, okay. Yeah, nice, okay. Yeah, business. I mean, she's a business person, right? Gotcha, right, yeah, yeah. Hey, Brian B here. Sorry to interrupt your regularly scheduled podcast, but let's be real. You're here because you actually care about your DJ business. And if you've been nodding along, like, yeah, I should totally step up my game, then let me make it easy for you. I've got a coaching platform, the DJ's Creative Edge, where I help DJs like you stand out, raise their prices without feeling guilty, and actually get paid what they're worth. We're talking one-on-one coaching, a killer course option to help you define your uniqueness, and a group coaching option with other DJs who actually get it. The website, the DJ'sCreativeedge.com. That's the DJ'sCreativeedge.com. Because you know, repetition works. And if you want to just lurk for now, hit up Instagram at the DJ's Creative Edge. All right, back to the show before Joe starts yelling in his extra thick North Carolina accent about how back in his day, DJs used CDs and still had to walk uphill both ways to a gig. I wanted to hit some music, man. Okay, so let's put on the on the headphones, all right. These are songs I'm feeling this month. They may go in the on the you know, bonus packs of bonus content. Okay, but I thought I would play you a couple that I have been working for me recently. This was I supposed to send anything for this. No, no, no, no. This is just me just being whatever. I've been playing a lot of vibey stuff lately. Okay, and I love this version. I know you're gonna crap on it, but to your saxophone situation, this is Careless Whispers. This is the Pat C's Afro House version. Okay. Uh George Michael versus DJ Amora and DJ O'Neill. Check it out. This is on Crate Gang.
SPEAKER_01I feel so far, Joby.
SPEAKER_04But if you have a sax player, I would remove that sax line.
SPEAKER_01Like it's not overly techno.
SPEAKER_03Another beast, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh, in the pocket though.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. It's a vibe. You can pull that tack out.
SPEAKER_04So we talked about this artist before, Sha Day. Oh god. This is ordinary love. This is the Ardent Disco house version. Okay. Love this too. Great vibe. This is the course only. Love the piano. Piano house, as they call it. Those ardent edits are great, great, great. And he puts out a ton. Add stacks on top of it. Love it. Fivey jazzy. Love it. Um, dude, party pupils. You've been watching them? Bro. Blowing up.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So he's on Bandcamp and he's been taking a lot of yacht house, a lot yacht rock stuff and turning it into yacht house. Yeah. Uh, not like 112 beats per minute. It's not like it's it's over the top like 128. BDM'd out, right? Uh, he just put out a new pack and this version of brandy looking glass. Wow. Throw it. Check it out. Just modernized. Not overly done. This is working, Raleigh. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's tasteful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just modernize. It's not like all bastardized. Right. Cocktail hour, dinner hour. I'm not on a walk in. This was one of my least favorite yacht rock songs. The original. I like this a lot better. And they're all this good. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04He's crushing it right now. Party people. Party peoples. Go on band camp. Subscribe. You can do that. Band camp. Wow. Telling y'all, Brian B goes down the rabbit hole. So this one's definitely down that. Okay. This is work, Rihanna. Okay. And Drake. This is the Afro Soul Choir version. Jesus. Okay. By Altverse. Alt verse. Okay. Here you go. From the beginning. Dinner.
SPEAKER_02Damn. Oh shit.
SPEAKER_05Send me off the wire, boy, send it on my da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
SPEAKER_04But it's covered though. That's cover. Yeah. But sounds like her once she gets to sing in. I mean that that's part, but when she gets with her verse.
SPEAKER_02Sounds kinda like her, right? This is sick. Uh it on the touch.
AI Covers And Sampling Money
SPEAKER_04Alright, so you want to know the secret of this one? Yeah. AI. You made it. No. Just found it. How do you know they made it? But I'm starting to be okay with it. With the right ones. With the right ones.
SPEAKER_01How could you tell?
SPEAKER_04Uh, because all of the stuff that this person's posting, altverse is all this kind of stuff. Right. And I could tell it wasn't Drake. And I just knew. I could just tell.
SPEAKER_00But I wake up and make like nothing. See, the Drake.
SPEAKER_02I mean, to be fair, also though, man. I mean, like, think of I mean, you've made a million records in here, right? More hip hop and stuff. But I mean, think about how difficult this would be to make, right? Right. Oh, yeah, you would need like a choir and like. Yeah. I mean, and and an accomplished singer, an accomplished male and female singer. Yeah. Drums and everything. Right.
SPEAKER_06I mean, I mean, it definitely you could make the track. I mean, I I could task you with Amen. Even if I just needed to take this little part, because Evan's done that before, where he needed somebody to like voice over. Yeah. And like he had somebody like talking over one of his records. I was like, who the hell is that? Yeah. He's like, AI, bro. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Right. Crazy. So you mentioned the even Steve. That's uh that's the way I like it. Yeah. I thought you were gonna say a different song, which is the sample that's used in the new French Montana French Montana track. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Have you been playing that one yet? No, not yet, but I hear I hear it a lot.
SPEAKER_04So it's on it's big on social right now. Uh Pete Down did a good version of it on DMS, but I like this Headliners Music Club version because it actually transitions. Whereas the Pete Down is it just keeps the disco version with the wrap over it in pieces. This actually transitions it. Uh this is Headliners Music Club's version of it. Check it out. This is the segue. Yeah. Clean version. I went depth on the Ever since you left me. It's very like it doesn't feel like such a departure from the original enough.
SPEAKER_02You think it's gonna be big?
SPEAKER_04Like a lot of people. I've been playing it a lot. Really? Yeah, the last couple weeks. It's been good. People have been into it. You don't fuck with Rinch Montana, Digga.
SPEAKER_02He always does that. Montana!
SPEAKER_04I only play a short edit of that. I would not play long.
SPEAKER_02Did you see he married like some princess or something?
SPEAKER_04He's up right now. You see that? I did see that. That was a while back, though, right? I mean a year or so ago. I don't know. Good for him, man. Good for him, exactly. Marrying a princess. Royalty, baby. It's pretty sad. Yeah, there's not too many people that can say they married royalty, you know.
SPEAKER_02Um, yeah, man. Uh, you know what I was I was telling Ashley this last night? Like, think about Casey, by the way, lives in Durham.
SPEAKER_05Oh, wait, right. From Casey in the side. Wow. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I mean, he's an old man now, but like, think about that, right? Like, all of a sudden, you're just chilling at home. You get a call from your agent or whoever represents you, and they're like, French Montana wants to sample. That's the way I like it. You just make up a price, whatever. And all of a sudden you have an incredible year. Like last night watching TV, right? Yeah. Got the shitty Hulu package. The ads come on. Volkswagen. Jump around. So House of Pan, that I played Jump Around in '93 and '94 when I was at Carolina. That's 32 years ago. Yeah. So all of a sudden, they're just, you know, chilling, and Volkswagen calls on. We want to we want to use sample uh jump around in our new Volkswagen commercial. Yeah. I mean, at the worst, you're gonna get a million dollars. Right. Right. Split three ways or four ways. Right. I mean, it's a pretty good year.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And like, I just think about shit like that all the time, or something pops off on TikTok again, that's running up that hill from Stranger. Oh, yes. She owned the publishing to that, I think, as well. Yeah, totally. Now, some instances are different than others, right? Like, I mean, that jump around, I I Googled it last night, it has four samples in it. Do the four people that also get paid? Yeah, you know what I mean, or a portion of their money gets divided up to them as well.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02They may or may not be alive, but their family might get some money. All of a sudden you get a check at Christmas for 50k. Totally. I'm like, damn, this is dope. Where'd it come from? A Volkswagen commercial. Yeah. They used Jump Around. And your dad's song was in it. Totally. Sampled in it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, on that It's crazy, dude. Anyway. You mentioned Stranger Things. This song that was kind of uh running up that hit. Well, this one also took off. It was actually released in 2022. It's a song by Joe. Oh, yeah. No, that um uh that acted. And the beginning. And the beginning.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. No, that's not from that, is it? No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_06No, but the kid that's playing one of the characters is actually. Oh, that kid, yeah. No musician. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So this song's been blowing up for me too. I've been playing it late night in like uh with the Vandalux remix. This is kind of more of a down tempo version.
SPEAKER_02No, that uh that that Kona or whatever it was uh blew up from that show where um John Ham. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So this is a cool version of it. If uh I played it late night, this is on their list. I'm getting it on a lot of lists right now. Maybe it's in the sorry.
SPEAKER_02That's what they're from. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Another chin of me.
SPEAKER_04Bandelic.
SPEAKER_02Oh, nothing but it's a right. It's a great crowd. You gotta have the right crowd. I thought we did that. You put me on that guy. Did you? Oh, told me about that guy. It's a big thing. I think whoever told me about that guy didn't realize it was the guy from Stranger Things. And I thought it was you.
SPEAKER_04Those, those, uh, that sing along is big, uh, especially that chorus. People, so I have a short edit of that that I've been using. So there'll be bonus potential content here.
Patreon Tiers And Perks Breakdown
SPEAKER_02Patreon.com slash beyond the DJ Booth Podcast. Just songs that are working. Patreon.com slash beyond the DJ Booth Podcast. We got two things and we're out. Okay, let's do it. All right, booth heads. We made a move and it's a bold one.
SPEAKER_04We officially launched a Patreon. We've got two tiers: one for$5.99 and one for$19.99. Basically, the cost of a coffee or a cocktail, depending upon how you roll.
SPEAKER_02Listen, this isn't some support us or we disappear kind of thing. You actually get some things that are useful that we think that you're gonna need to run your DJ business.
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Gear Corner Travel Tools And Snacks
SPEAKER_04Backroom members aren't just listening, they're actually shaping what this podcast is going to become and probably making your DJ sets better in the process. So stop texting us asking what remix was that and get in the booth for real. Patreon.com forward slash beyond the DJ Booth Podcast. Choose a tier, grab your spot, and let's keep building. Booth heads, you know where to go. Uh, let's talk about Gear Corner. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02The gear's here.
SPEAKER_05The gear is here, is here, is here, is here, is here, is here, is here, is here, is here.
SPEAKER_04You got something this time.
SPEAKER_02I do. And I got something too, but I'll let you go for a good one. I'm gonna go quickly to mine. Um I got this for a Christmas gift. It hasn't saved me yet, but I can see it saving me. Uh a freaking jumper for your car. A bat it's a Boost 2000. Booze 2000 jump starter. They're on Amazon. So it's this pack. I don't know. Let's if you're listening, it's probably um. Yeah, it's up like a Game Boy. Yeah. And then it's got the same, you know, type jumper cable clips that come with jumper cables. When's the last time you charged this? Because it's at 100% right now. Christmas. And it's still at 100%. Wow. We turned it on a minute ago.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Don't do it right now.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Hundo. 100%. Yeah. I ain't I it's been in the back of my car since Christmas. Would this work with any vehicle or so the certain waters? It says gas, 8.0 liter, diesel, 6.5 liter. I don't know what that means. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But if you're gonna pinch, leave your lights on, whatever. Yeah, better than calling triple A. I mean, so I saw it on Amazon. It's$59. It's on sale right now? Yeah, on sale right now. Shout out to Eaton Wolf. Yeah. Again, we're batching this, but well, summarily for the travel folks, dude. Uh my uh gratuity's been interesting this year. I've been getting gifted different things than cash. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So somebody goes, uh example. Someone goes, hey, what's your what's your jacket size? Interesting. Like, what? I'm gonna send you something. This is after the gig. I wasn't expecting anything, whatever. Large, whatever. They send this jacket I'm wearing. Okay. And I love a black hoodie in general. You're the king of the house. I love a black hoodie. Yeah. This one Are you a zip guy or a pull over the head style? No, no, zippy. Zippy zip. Yeah. So this is uh this is uh because on planes, I need something that's because you never know. You sometimes you're walking into it, it's freezing. Even if it's the middle of summer. Yeah. This one I wouldn't wear in the summer just because it's weighted, it's it's comfy. So I'm gonna take it off, let you put it on. It's clean, don't worry. Okay. And then I'll show you something. So it's by uh uh you can't get this on Amazon, you have to get it from the company. It's by comfort. Uh CEO. Yeah, right? Does it feel weighted? It's comfortable, right? Right. But look at all the pocket heavy. Yeah, in fact, you even have zip-up ones or some uh even within that. But here's what got me. I didn't do any research on this. I didn't get in the mail. I'm on the plane. I put the hood on. Okay. Bro, there is a drop-down eye mask built into it. And it works.
SPEAKER_02Bro, we out here. Oh shit, I hit the mic. Pretty good, right? Bro, you can't see shit. I just hit my nose on the mic.
SPEAKER_04So anyway, uh I am a huge fan of this for the winter months. Like, this is a great one because it's uh it I was been wearing it in the studio all day and it's been hot. Um, but that's heavy, yeah. No, no, no. It's it's it's spring winter. But you could put like on your arm, there's some zippers on either side to put, I don't know, your I your AirPods, your um like zip up on the on the on the no down a little lower. Yeah, right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, they got one up there too, yeah. So a lot of hidden pockets for passports or who knows, whatever else you need to like conceal of. I like it, dude. Um, cool thing there. What do you think it goes for?$79.95. Um, let me tell you what that goes for here. It is um hold on one second. I think I put it in the wrong spot here. It is$140. Quick question. Would you have rather had$140 cash? No, I think I would have. I mean Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna turn out cash ever. But yeah, that's uh a pretty pretty cool thing. So, anyways, I just wanted to mention that. And then the last one I wanted to throw out to you, uh uh, other on the travel tip. Um, dude, you know, you you go to gigs, you don't get a chance to eat the meals. I haven't been eating meals at the gigs lately. Not that I do, anyways, but like I'm a starving after the events. And uh I've been going with these no vendor meal for you? I mean, you're a Brian B. I've I've been playing during dinner. Right, right. Like they're not serving it to me early. Yeah, yeah. And I just, you know, sometimes I would get it to go, but they forget to make it. Right. So these 20 grams of protein, I've been eating these or drinking these, I should say, Chabonis. Uh, there's a bunch of different flavors. Um, and I get it like on the way to the gig. They have it at every gas station or whatever, uh supermarket, whatever. Uh, they stay cool longer than the normal ones. Yes. And great way to put some protein in you if you can't. Does it taste all like chalky or anything? No, no, no. This one doesn't. This one's really good. Okay. And then the last thing I'll show it to you is this new hair mat. You don't need this. No. Uh, some people like myself, when you get in the humidity spots, none of the product works really well. Interesting. And this one is called Statement, is the name of it. It's a black mat. And uh man, in humidity, holds up really well. Okay. Uh, it is uh grooming goods, matte paste.$24.95. So it is a little bit pricey. You can Amazon, it'll be on my store. Okay. You can grab it there. But these are some travel things I would get with this because if you're in a place where it's humid, this will keep your hair intact.
SPEAKER_02Damn.
Fixing Flat Dance Floors With Feedback
SPEAKER_04Wish I had some. Hair. Let's hit the question and bounce out. Question.
SPEAKER_02Are we doing two or one? I think it's the same one. Okay. Question number one on the rare occasion that we have a wedding where the dancing falls flat. What are the key factors that you look at afterwards to see where you could have done better? And then how do you rebound? That's why our our boy Corey Barron has that. And then question two semi-related how do you go about collecting accurate feedback for bettering your own performance? Outstanding questions. Um, Chris Davis. Shout out, Chris Davis. Um Man, I I I was telling Brian, I think I I don't remember now if we were talking off air or on air about um going back and and preparing the These banger lists that are in the Patreon where I, you know, sometimes feel like I'm playing the same thing, but I'm not. You know what I mean? I I look at these lists and I've gotten all these requests from the couple, or I've just kind of made a left turn sometimes. And um, I think going back uh to both y'all's performance and looking at what you played. I think looking back at footage if you have an assistant that's shooting, uh, or looking back at your 360 footage, even is is important at where things went well, where things went wrong. Um, I think really hyper analyzing probably like last 30 minutes to an hour is is probably the most crucial for me because that's kind of where, you know, ladies and gentlemen, we're opening the dance floor, everybody's gonna come out there, but can you sustain that at our two plus? You know what I mean? That's where I really try to analyze. Like, did I go too hard too fast? Yeah, you know what I mean? Like so for me, it's it's but I guess Corey's more asking just on these ones that are not ragers or where it falls flat. I I mean, it goes back to what I was saying earlier on air, man. I I think sometimes you just get that kind of crowd, right? Or you get uh not a big dancing bride and groom, and so people are more following their lead, or you get these corporate events like the cotton gin thing that Brian did, that's 95% older males that did not bring their spouses. Like, and you just look at it and and you always have to think about it this way what would this have been like had I not been here? How bad would this event have been? And I leave events all the time and I'm like, that wasn't great. And then I'll get these reviews or get these emails like you saved our event, or that was the best thing of the night. Yeah, that I thought was mid at best. So I I think we're just really hard on ourselves sometimes. Oh, totally. And and in in regards to Chris, I think the feedback, Chris, just the the main people I like to hear from are are the clients, obviously. Yeah. And whether I have to ping them and try and get a review, or they just freely email or text me after the event, that's how you know you did a good job. I mean a no review doesn't mean you did a bad job, though. I do want to say that. A bad review means you fucked up something.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I played a uh a version of a song, um, I think I sent it to you too. Oh, oh, I remember what it was. I played uh uh uh they had shake it off on their list. Yeah, they also had blame it on their list, the T-Pain. So um I found the in my library randomly this shake it versus blame it off. I hate uh versus blame it. I hate shake it off in general.
SPEAKER_03I don't like it either.
SPEAKER_04I don't know, I've just never been a fan of it and like when it was big. So I played that edit short down, but it didn't do as well as I thought it would do, and I realized what was missing was I needed to have played blame it first and then go into that edit instead of just playing this, like it feels like you're forcing it, like I was forcing it. Yeah, and I could just tell. So, what do I do when I notice it in the moment? I'm literally on my phone making a note. Really? Edit this, or I'll drag it into a folder if I'm my phone isn't near me, like edit this. Yeah, and I'll just drag these tracks in and I know that because sometimes you do you forget in the moment if you're not recording the whole show. Sure. But that's a good go-to for me is to just drag it into a to fix is the name of the crate. Yeah. And I just drag it in there and and look at it. Um another one where it like the order just didn't seem right, like the edit needed to be reworked for me. In some cases, I'm like, oh, that didn't really work. Another one where recently it's it's kind of fallen off. I have uh That's so true. Uh I forgot the girl's name who the the pop song. Oh, yeah. Um Gracie A. Gracie A. Yeah. I have that over promiscuous. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, it's fallen off. Yeah, right. Like, I need to take that out, replace it with the where uh, you know, the the where's my husband. Or man I need. Yeah. So I reworked the edit that I had with that song when it was popping off.
SPEAKER_02I'm like, you need to change your mind. Right. Think about your dumb face all the time.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's not hitting anymore for me, anyways. Right, right. Um, so that's number one. I think you said it nail it too, is like um the watching back the footage or recording your set through Serato or any other program you're in. Yeah, the videos revealing because there's been some events where I was like, this popped off. And I look at the footage and I'm like, nah, man, you really didn't. Like, I thought it was way more lit than it was than I'm like, these clips just aren't like showing what I felt.
SPEAKER_02I'll look back at some stuff he shoots sometimes from the back of the dance room, and I'm like, man, these people are fucking lazy. Yeah, they're just talking or whatever. I'm like, but I only stole like maybe three or four rows deep. You know what I mean? Right. And I'll tell I'm like, Say go on, there's got we got some lazy dancers back there. Right.
SPEAKER_04And where I and the last uh the last piece I'll say is where I I this is just a limitation on my own performance style. It doesn't come natural to me, is being on the mic more often than I need to be. Yeah. Um, there's just pockets in time where I'm like, I should be like, I'm seeing this clip, and I'm like, it feels like there's not a lot of energy there, and I could have inserted something. Yep. So I'll make a note in the comments um MC need in there, and I'll put it for certain tracks where I go, okay, hey, here's it is. And so then I'll go in there and actually uh put a cue point so I know where it needs to be on Serata. On Serata. That's smart. So those are some things I'll do if if I'm looking for a feedback on myself. But I mean, I think it's also too is like if you're not getting any reviews or people aren't saying that wasn't the best night ever, then I would be like, yo, if I haven't gotten that in a while, then I need to like, what am I doing that feels stale?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you know, like am I just change it up a little bit, yeah. What's missing here?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. Totally. Um, and then as far as the the rare occasions where it falls flat, I mean, my my thing is there's always next week. Yeah. Right. So I'm always like, I mean, I hate to end the year like that, so I try not to let that be the last thing, but like sometimes you're just gonna get that crowd and there's nothing you can do, man. And it's like, and and I love it when I have a gig the very next day, because then I'm like, I could recover from last night, get that one out of my head.
SPEAKER_02Right, right.
SPEAKER_04Because you do, if you get two or three in a row, you can start kind of like getting into a dark place, bro.
Sponsor Thanks And Wrap Up
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah. Me and Saquon went to the next one. Listen to Alice in Wonderland stuff. You know what I mean? It's like you're like me and Saquon went on this streak of last year. I think I was like, bro, we we're overdue. We're overdue. Yeah. I mean, right here. Totally. I'm second guessing my career. Well, that's what we got. Good shit. Thank you, as always, to DJ Event Planner, and they are the CRM that we prefer, DJEventplanner.com. Thank you for sponsoring Beyond the DJ Booth Podcast, and thank you guys for watching and listening. And we will see y'all back next week. Hungrier than a hostage, right now. I'm starving. Let's go. Let's go. See ya.