Wrestling with Grief, Rage, and the Making of a Martyr

The headlines move fast, but some moments demand we slow down and tell the truth. We sit with a hard paradox: a high-profile death framed as martyrdom while a legacy of harmful rhetoric is polished into honor. Our conversation blends faith, ethics, and politics as we refuse two traps at once—celebrating violence or sanitizing the damage words and platforms can do. Anger shows up, and we give it a proper place without letting it harden us into what we resist.

Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome & Season Two Tone
• 0:36 Naming the Topic: Charlie Kirk
• 1:19 Violence, School Shootings, And Moral Whiplash
• 2:18 Faith, Restraint, And Guarding the Heart
• 3:07 Symbol, Spectacle, And State Honors
• 4:01 Grace, Double Standards, And Anger
• 5:18 Good Versus Evil Framing
• 6:06 Silence, Complicity, And Power
• 7:28 Fear of Equality, Merit, And DEI
• 8:43 Outsourcing the Fight And Sidelines
• 9:42 Baldwin’s Warning And Historical Echoes
• 10:45 Religion As Restraint Versus Righteous Anger
• 11:43 Condemning Violence Without Sanitizing Harm
• 12:40 Gun Reform, Free Speech, And Crackdowns
• 13:39 Managed Narratives And Democratic Erosion
• 14:46 Burn It Down Racism And Insurrection
• 16:06 Settlers, Erasure, And Language Wars
• 17:02 DEI Smears, Empathy Irony, And Memory
• 18:05 Two Things Can Be True
• 19:03 Trash, Truth, And No Clear Transformation
• 20:05 Personal Transformations And Guardrails
• 21:10 Parenting Under Threat And Fear
• 22:05 Listener Feedback And Closing