Episode 20: Would You Survive These Situations? Work, Life, and Everyday Chaos

In this episode of Out Loud with Rob and Rachel, we switch things up with a fast-paced, relatable, and often hilarious “Would You Survive?” segment that hits way too close to home.

Rachel kicks things off with real-life frustrations from the classroom, including sub days gone wrong, workplace dynamics, and the growing challenge of dealing with people who simply don’t want to do the work. From there, Rob brings his business perspective, breaking down how he handles last-minute demands, difficult clients, and the fine line between helping and being taken advantage of.

Then it gets even more real.

We dive into situations everyone has experienced but rarely talks about out loud:
 • Being forced to fix problems you didn’t create
 • Sitting through meetings where the data is completely wrong
 • Dealing with micromanagers who don’t understand your job
 • Repeating yourself over and over to people who just don’t get it

And of course, we lighten things up with rapid-fire scenarios:
 Would you survive letting someone order for you at a restaurant?
 Wearing an outfit you regret all day?
 Calling someone by the wrong name?
 Or realizing you waved at someone who wasn’t waving at you… 😬

This episode blends humor, honesty, and a little bit of chaos as we explore how people handle pressure, awkward moments, and the everyday situations that test your patience.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Welcome to Out Loud with Rob and Rachel. This is what happens when two ADHD brains come together and think out loud.

SPEAKER_00 0:07

Hey everybody, thanks for tuning in to the Out Loud Podcast with Rob and Rachel. How are you doing today?

SPEAKER_02 0:12

Hi, everyone. Welcome back.

SPEAKER_00 0:14

We're doing it on a uh Saturday morning and I feel awake. We usually do it at the end of the week.

SPEAKER_02 0:19

We're refreshed.

SPEAKER_00 0:20

Five o'clock on a Friday. I'm half asleep. I was beat up all week. That's my fault. No, no. No, it's not. No, it's not.

SPEAKER_02 0:26

I come straight down from work.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:28

And um, yeah, but I think you're right. I think this is a little better.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

Yeah, yeah. I feel like you see a difference. I know, meet you. You're pretty good all the time, though. I know, but I'm a little more fresh up there now.

SPEAKER_02 0:39

Like definitely a little bit less draggy.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

Yeah, me too. Yeah. I was seeing like the camera view. I look tired. I know.

SPEAKER_02 0:45

You get beat up, beat up. Not even tired. So stare at a screen all day. Yeah, all day. So it's a little different. I'm up moving around. I'm having conversation. I'm, you know, I'm not stagnant very often. So yeah, so I get I get that.

SPEAKER_00 0:58

And I and the weather's warmer, I'm outside hiking more.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

That's another thing. I mean, seasonal, whatever that is, whatever it's called, it's a real thing. Like no joy. I am in a different I'm motive, like, I mean, I'm motivated very often, but I am.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

When we're driving here yesterday, I had my son root. The sun was just beating on my friends' face. I know it's a totally different thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:17

It is really a different thing. Well, I I I want to start this week. I had a woo start to the beginning of the week. My daughter wakes me up at two o'clock in the morning on Sunday throwing her guts up.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Oh boy.

SPEAKER_02 1:29

Um that like 24-hour, you know, knock you on your ass and then, you know, like leave a path in its wake. And so I normally if it's just like she doesn't, you know, they don't feel good, they can definitely, you know, handle being, you know, home. I don't have to take the day off. But when you're throwing your guts up, like I really at that moment I'm a single, yeah, I gotta be there. She couldn't walk up and down the stairs. I mean, you know, the changing of the of the guard, you know, whatever. That's a whole different animal. So at four o'clock in the morning, but it was a Monday, and the week before I had taken a Monday off because I had a meeting at the school. And I am the person, I don't use my days frivolously. I don't like to call out at the last minute like that and leave my students high and dry. My students really, really thrive on structure. So being there is really important to me. And if I am gonna be out, I usually say to them, I'm gonna be out. I just want you to know there's gonna be a sub. Blah, blah, blah. So, but I knew that there was no choice. And so I fired up my computer at five o'clock in the morning to, you know, call out and create meaningful lessons for my students. Took me almost an hour. I see I email it to my aide, who's fantastic, and she's like, All right, I got this. Don't worry about it. I'll make sure the substitute gets whatever they need, blah, blah, blah. I get into work the next day. None of the work is done.

SPEAKER_00 2:55

Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 2:56

Not any of it. She tells me, and actually, then it was by ironically backed up by my students unprovoked. I don't ask, I don't like to out either. Yeah, you know, I got it. I don't like to do that with my, but they were like, Miss B, they we did nothing. And I was like, What do you mean? And they were like, he literally handed us the packets and then sat down at your chair like this.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

Jeez. And they're not allowed to have their phones. They don't have their phones.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

So my students in my district, they've just instituted a no-cell phone policy in the classroom. So I have like a shoe rack at the beginning of my door. They live and my kids are so good. They come right in, they put their cell phones right on there. They each have their own thing. They can see them. We've gone through this already. I've mentally prepared them for this. So they're like really on it. Like when there's an adult who's on the phone. Right. So they were like, yeah, he was sitting at your desk, like scrolling through like his phone the whole entire time.

SPEAKER_00 4:01

And they get paid well too. Very well. So like, what do they get paid these days? I mean, it's not. I don't know exactly.

SPEAKER_02 4:07

I know that it's well over$100 a day.

SPEAKER_00 4:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

And it's a great side gig for somebody, for a college student, for somebody.

SPEAKER_00 4:16

Right.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

You need 60 college credits in order to be a sub, but you can be a sub, you can register in every single county. Right. And literally work every single day of the school year if you truly want to. But when you're there, come on.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

Yeah, you gotta do something.

SPEAKER_02 4:33

Yeah, at least pretend because these kids also get it. Like they get that you're sitting there doing nothing. Don't do that.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

And just have some fun with it. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

Right. Help them also. Like if you hand them a piece of paper and you know they don't get it, like my kids didn't get it. Like they needed to be guided through it. And like some would say, Oh, you sent them work they couldn't do. No. If you guided them through it, which is exactly what I do, and mind you, this sub works in my school every day.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:03

So they know my students and they know what they're capable of and all of that. Yeah, yeah. They made a conscious decision to do nothing. Let's just put it that way.

SPEAKER_00 5:11

At least encourage them.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

So that's frustrating, right? And which led us to the people, there's work out there. It's just that not many people want to do that.

SPEAKER_00 5:20

No, people don't want to work. Yeah. And they at least think you're worth more than they are so much. Which which is fine. I mean, it's it's better than having thinking that you're worth less, but at the same time, you gotta be realistic. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:33

So I those are things that I brought this up because I think it's funny. Not funny, ha ha, but like funny, frustrating sometimes, and interesting funny, that these are the things that I deal with in the in in an industry, right? Like so I work in an industry, I go into work, there's more than you know, a few employees in my you're self-employed. So yes, you have customers and clients that you have to appease and you have to work for them, you know, work for them in this in a sense, but you don't have that office dynamics, that like annoying, like where you have to deal with all these personalities and things that you have to navigate through on a daily basis. It's interesting, and I I so I wanted to do a would you survive episode, okay? All right, would Rob survive these office type scenarios? Okay, or how would you navigate, okay? Not just would you survive, but how would you navigate it? Okay, how would you navigate them throwing something, a brand new program at you in the moment where you had to now roll it out with no training?

SPEAKER_00 6:47

A new program with no training. Oh, so that's what's happened to you, I guess. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 6:52

So your client says, We want you to roll this program out on our website right now, today, in the moment we want. Like, I guess that's the only way that I could. Yeah, you know, I gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

No, I gotcha. No, no, no, that that has happened. So similar things do happen like that. They they don't tell me that there's a de they don't tell me that uh a print magazine so sometimes I help people, I facilitate their print their print stuff because I do mostly digital. So don't give me something and said it's due tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02 7:24

Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:26

So like we get that on a daily, by the way. Like literally, so I'm gonna give you an example. Somebody showed up at my door the other day. I was firing up literally a lesson. Like my students were focused at my smart board and I was ready to start my lesson. And somebody said, Oh, we have a presentation right now.

SPEAKER_00 7:45

Yeah, I got it.

SPEAKER_02 7:46

The email never went out. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 7:49

Yeah, so this how this actually happens to me. So I handle it a couple different ways. Um, so when things are sprung on me, right, it's not really in my contract description. Okay. You know what I mean? So you have to it there there's a lot of things in business where there is implied courtesy. Courtesy. Yeah, like implied.

SPEAKER_02 8:13

Like I'll do it, but I don't need to do it.

SPEAKER_00 8:15

I'll do it. And I and I do charge for it, but it's not worth for me stopping something that I'm in the middle of to rush for you then go back because it that wasn't part of the day. I have other promises that I promise people. So normally how I handle those those situations is I don't respond right away. Uh and I let them sweat for a while. Not not be not because not out of it's really not out of spite, it's just because I have other things that I have to get done or or I'll point out and get done.

SPEAKER_02 8:46

And that sets a really bad precedent also if you like jump at them and you're like, okay, no problem. Then they're gonna continue to do that and up the ants.

SPEAKER_00 8:53

Well, that's what goes back to the whole give and take scenario, right? So uh so how I handle it usually is uh is uh I just don't I get to it when I when I'm ready to get it.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

Have you ever had somebody coming at you like con like, hey, you there? Like, can you do this? Or is this something feasible?

SPEAKER_00 9:10

Like when you do choose to ignore that? It does happen. I'm confident enough in my abilities that as you know, like I can get things done just like you when I have to get things done. So instead of jumping on it, you know, nine or ten in the morning and having it ready for eleven, I'll j if it's due at the end of the day, I'll start it at three or four. But what that does is if I started at night, it's gonna go back and forth all day. And I know this what's uh and they're gonna make me make changes that don't matter. That's that's not that the end result's not gonna matter. You know, it's so funny. So by jumping on it at three o'clock, it's there's no changes. It's gone.

SPEAKER_02 9:49

And it's good, right? And it's good. Oh yeah, the product's good. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 9:53

Totally. People just want changes just to make changes. Sometimes what I do is too, I make something I know they won't like, so they have something to change. So it scratches that itch.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

I I we had um I've had experiences where I have had somebody, a boss, who was not great at grammar or anything like that, or you know, sentence structure or spelling or anything like that, and would make corrections that didn't make sense.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:24

That were wrong.

SPEAKER_01 10:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:26

Just to make like she didn't read her. And like we would be like, yeah, if I change this, it has my name on it, like it's wrong, grammatically wrong. Like, and then I would go back and I wouldn't change it, and she would be like, Great, it looks fabulous.

SPEAKER_00 10:41

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 10:43

Yeah. So it's so funny you say that because like uh I design websites. Sometimes I go on Zoom calls with my clients, and uh, and I know people, you know, certain people like to make changes, which is fine. It's not, it's not it's it's it's just one of those things. It's a funny quirk, you know, that people have, and then uh it goes, oh, I don't like that. It's like, yeah, I knew you. I I said I so I'll say, like, you know, I knew you wouldn't like it, but I I know you like to make changes, so I just threw it out. And they laugh, like they know they're all. Right.

SPEAKER_02 11:13

That's okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

Yeah, just let them know that I know.

SPEAKER_02 11:16

All right. Okay, ready for the next would you survive? Would you survive data meetings about data that is not correct? You know the data you're looking at is wrong or skewed or inaccurate or misrepresented, and you can't open your mouth.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

You just said, well, no, no, no. I won't be able to survive that. And what you said is the the best word you said was misrepresenting. Because you can make data look any way you want the data to look.

SPEAKER_02 11:51

What about sitting through data that the person who's presenting it is presenting it wrong?

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Yeah, I mean. That's a tough one to handle. I mean, they don't ask for input, or you there's not an open forum usually after that.

SPEAKER_02 12:07

No, no, no, they're presenting it and they don't know, like they're there and then somebody kind of has to like I've been at I've been at data presentations where a person is presenting data and there's somebody in the background who you know clearly put the presentation together for them, but they didn't take the time to educate themselves on the presentation they're actually presenting.

SPEAKER_00 12:29

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

So they have to sort of refer to the person.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

Right. I've seen that at the board of ed meetings, actually. Right.

SPEAKER_02 12:35

And then you're just like, what?

SPEAKER_00 12:38

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:39

You knew you were presenting this. Why are you not more prepared?

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:43

And then as an educator, like when they those same people are the ones who come into your room to evaluate your teaching.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

Yeah, yeah. That that the date the whole data thing is. That's the emoji that pops off your head. Yeah, that's that's a tough one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:57

Right? All right.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

But no, I wouldn't be able to sit quiet through that.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

Well, how would you handle that?

SPEAKER_00 13:02

Yeah, I would like I would hope that there was an opportunity for if anybody has any questions. You know.

SPEAKER_02 13:10

And what would you say?

SPEAKER_00 13:12

Just whatever, whatever I felt.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

Would you be the person in the audit? Because we usually meetings like that are like an auditorium and like on the big screen it's showing. You know, there's always memes about like I'm the teacher that you know, I'm the staff member you don't want to sit next to during the meetings if you don't want to get in trouble. Like, I'm that person because I sometimes like my look, my yeah, oh come on. You know, like I I I don't mean to be disrespectful, but sometimes it's just egregiously wrong. And I can't, I don't have a poker face like that. Would you be that person too?

SPEAKER_00 13:42

Yeah, no, I mean I would say something. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

Totally. Um circle back on something five different times with someone.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

No, I can't. No, no, no. Maybe maybe I I think once is unacceptable.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

What about the person who I remember that programming that you showed me the other day? Can you show it to me again? I'm sorry. I when I really tried to work on it, it just wasn't working for me. You're so much better at it than me.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Yeah, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

That's literally happened to me.

SPEAKER_00 14:25

And when you have to circle back to people that you're trying to help, right. And not only that, sometimes they're paying you, and you have to circle back to them with certain things. It's it's it's straight. Yeah. Like sometimes I wonder how people got to where they're at.

SPEAKER_02 14:41

Well, and and I wanna like I want to differentiate between those who are in cape maybe incapable cognitive, like, right? Like, so okay, I I I always have to say that and clarify with that. We're not talking about people who should who who we understand might not be able to get these things. We're talking about the people who just don't take the time.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

But five times is excessive. It is, right? Or even three times is exactly what we've got to do. Yeah, it is excessive. Like you maybe once.

SPEAKER_02 15:08

You need to take the day off and go to a workshop about it. Like I can't I can't help you in the 30-minute morning meeting. Um would you survive being expected? Well, you probably have had this before too. Would you survive being expected to fix a problem you didn't create?

SPEAKER_00 15:24

Yeah, I mean, a lot of a lot of times it just happened today.

SPEAKER_02 15:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:28

So a lot of times people want to take over their website.

SPEAKER_02 15:31

Oh, yeah. Right. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_00 15:33

Like they don't want to pay the the low fee each. And these are these are businesses, you know,$15 million. Right. You know, this is not the person just starting out, right? So uh and they just want to be hands-on with it, which is fine, and and they'll they'll screw it up and ask me to fix it.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

Something you created. You created their entire website.

SPEAKER_00 15:54

I created a website. Time they they they made the change, they made some changes, and they won't then they want me to come back to me and correct it. Or they want to maintain the uh security of it, and then like today, something happened. They stopped getting emails. Um, I stopped, I built their website, I stopped working for them. They uh they wanted to uh um That's so interesting. They weren't they they tested her form, they didn't get an email. And I can look to see when their last they they did they they haven't gotten an email in a year and a half from their form. And they didn't notice.

SPEAKER_02 16:31

How long has it been since you worked with them?

SPEAKER_00 16:34

Uh uh a year and a half? No, about two, two, two and a half, two years. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:39

So almost immediately after you stopped working with them, they stopped.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

You have to update security, you have to.

SPEAKER_02 16:45

Well, that shows how valuable you are. Yeah, yeah, but it's honestly. But it's just like No, but that really does. Because look how much time is money.

SPEAKER_00 16:52

Yeah, but it's just ten, you know, if you're 10, 20,$5 million business, 3 million, yeah. You know, there's small plans where you just pay someone 200. Pennywise and dollar foolish. 200 bucks a month per website if you're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_02 17:04

Pennywise and dollar, my my dad is don't be pennywise and dollar foolish.

SPEAKER_00 17:07

But I won't, but I won't fix it. Like there's no amount of there's no amount of money. Uh you're done. Yeah. Yeah, it's just you know, I get that. It's just not worth my time.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

Not at all.

SPEAKER_00 17:15

Because some of the stuff can take four or five hours, troubleshooting it.

SPEAKER_02 17:18

Now, what if they said to you we would like to hire you back for a regular living?

SPEAKER_00 17:21

Yeah, that would be fine. Yeah. So if they wanted to say, all right, we screwed up and like for for me personally at my age, if it's not recurrent income, it doesn't matter. It's not important. I can understand that. To make an extra five hundred bucks, it's it's just not worth my time at this point in my life.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

How would you survive being micromanaged on something you've done well for years?

SPEAKER_00 17:41

Yeah, that that would be a tough. I just wouldn't survive it. Like I would never put myself in that situation. I yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:48

What about being micromanaged by somebody who's never done what you're that's uh I I know that happens a lot in a lot of industries.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

Uh-huh. It does, not just education. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 17:59

In a lot of fields.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

Yeah, I know. It's uh, I mean, so I get it's not it's a little bit of micromanaging. Like I have people so what happens in in my business when when I work with clients is that they um companies will hire somebody internally just to facilitate it all. But often these people, they could be two things. They could be right out of college or um or they could be you know older, like 55-60, who's just looking to supplement their income and they're retired or whatever. So they think they know marketing. And um there are times where I spend, and I'm and and I stopped doing it, but where I spend more time explaining to them why it's not gonna work than helping them with their business. So if I'm on a Zoom call with you for an hour explaining to teaching you, that's an hour I'm not gonna be working on your marketing. Like I have my clients don't know the hours that I spend on them. Sometimes it's more, sometimes, but but there are a certain amount of hours. And if you want me to talk you through something, I'll talk you through it.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

It's just taking the place of something else. I'm I could be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00 19:07

That that will be that will certainly make you money. Certainly, yeah. And but people will tell me like they'll give me like hashtags, right? And people don't know how to use hashtags. Okay. Right.

SPEAKER_02 19:19

So that's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

Right. So an example would be is if you're a realtor and you hashtag Realty or Realtors.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

Right.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

The only people paying attention to that hashtag are realtors. Are realtors.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

Right.

SPEAKER_00 19:35

Right? So if you're a realtor, what you want a realtor, what you want to hashtag hashtag East Brunswick.

SPEAKER_02 19:41

Also, you know what else I notice people hashtag DIY or like for you f yp, for you page.

SPEAKER_00 19:48

Because it's you're not telling the algorithm. So if you're a hyper local business, okay, right, you want a hashtag like eyes on eB, East Brunswick, East Brunswick, New Jersey, right? EBHS. Like you want to hashtag micro local thing. The other hashtag, even if people see it across the world, it's not going to bring you new business if you're a service business. So but for me to sit down and explain that to somebody is such a waste. Just let me do my thing and shut up. Yeah. But but I'm I have the luxury and and and the personality where I I think it's a passion. I and I think people understand that I do care about their business, that I can talk to people certain ways. Like, like basically, just leave me the fuck alone. Right, right, right. Like I like like I think I I I think I have that.

SPEAKER_02 20:38

Like I think your work also probably speaks for itself, which is also in my line where I can close my door and leave me alone and know that what's going on in my classroom is the right thing, and I'll have results, positive results coming out of it.

SPEAKER_00 20:51

It does it doesn't happen often, but when it does, it's like, ugh, it's annoying.

SPEAKER_02 20:58

So I just wanna I I how would you feel? And I'm gonna, I know we didn't really want to touch on it because we don't, but we in in in education as a whole, there are major budget issues going on. And what's happening is that there's a major reduction in force, right? Every district is having to reduce the amount of staff, whether it's actual teachers or paraprofessionals or custodians or anything. But the work still needs to be done. So, how would you survive your workload being increasingly demanding and like you having to pick up the slack for these things?

SPEAKER_00 21:41

I would need more money. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:43

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 21:44

Well, how do you so like So if if if if I couldn't just ask for more money, well, it depends it depends on my leverage. So if I had so if I had leverage, like I think you might at this part of your career where you're pr yeah, you're a couple. Years away from retirement, and you know, you're pretty much untouchable, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

I don't know if you are or not, but the let's well, I'm not untouchable, but but yeah, in that in in I've proven my evaluations. In my evaluations, they're they're well over positive.

SPEAKER_00 22:15

Yeah. So my first thing is I'll do whatever I have to do to support my family. Right. Right. Right. So that's the first thing. Um yeah, I mean, that's a really tough one because you in your situation you're dealing with children and the children are affected. So that would get me to do to kind of deal to deal with it. But if it if it was, yeah, I mean that would that would that would be tough. If it it it's a leverage thing.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

Well, so then let me ask you, like, what if one of your companies that you work for was like, yeah, we want this, this, this, this, and this thing. We had to let go of our in-house photographer. So because we just really it wasn't fees, like we just couldn't fit it into our budget anymore. So we know you do photography on the side. We would really love if you could, you know, just every once in a while throw in some photography sessions, you know, within our um already budgeted contract that we have.

SPEAKER_00 23:18

Yeah, no, I wouldn't do it. I would lose the contract for sure. Like I I I I I've been lucky enough to have uh uh when I started working in my 20s, have a m uh work for amazing business that really were business people. And the first thing you learn is you get charged for your time, you charge for your time and your expertise. You know, especially what people charge for their time too much, they don't charge for their expertise.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

They don't value their own expertise enough, right?

SPEAKER_00 23:43

Yeah, because this takes so many three hours, you know, it takes me an hour.

SPEAKER_02 23:45

Why I have a problem with that actually, because I think that I've been undervalued my whole entire career. That in my now next steps of thinking, I do have to remind myself how valuable the skills that I have cultivated over all of these years are.

SPEAKER_00 24:03

Yeah. So what what what I would do to answer your question is if they wanted me to do like uh photography, uh as some photography on it, I would say, what can we take away? And that's how I would handle it. Okay, so you don't say no. Right. What can we take away? Okay, so so you got rid of your photographer. I could do the I could do some photography, I would make it where you would have to come here.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

You know, so me going there.

SPEAKER_02 24:26

Your your stipulations, your guidelines.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

What can we take away? What can you take up? Really cool. That was a really cool answer. Well, it happens. That stuff happens. Yeah, so um I'm all right. I like that. Good.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

Well done, Rob. Well done.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

Well done on that.

SPEAKER_00 24:43

Am I too intense here?

SPEAKER_02 24:44

No, I love this. All right. So now we're gonna take it away from the you know, professional.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

I was getting irritated with some of it in a good way.

SPEAKER_02 24:53

Well, because no, but that's what we have to do.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

You're hitting a nerve.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

But could could you imagine? Yeah. You know, you call me an alpha female all the time. Yeah. Do you know how many things I actually have to do? Positive well. I know. He doesn't mean it in a bad way.

SPEAKER_00 25:05

I think it's great.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

I'm imagine how many things I actually swallow.

SPEAKER_00 25:09

No, no, I know.

SPEAKER_02 25:10

Take that away.

SPEAKER_00 25:12

How are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 25:14

No.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

That's what she said.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

Uh you can't we we're keeping that because we have to, but really, if it was up to me, I would say no. But we're gonna take it from that, and I'm really imagining I do have to say, imagine the things that we have to deal with on a daily basis that you literally have to stomach and not say anything. Otherwise, you will go absolutely apeshit mad. So I Rob was getting fired up, so um, we're gonna take it, we're gonna take it down now for the last part of our podcast. And we're going, I'm gonna throw out some would you survive that are lighter. Okay. Would you survive letting someone else order for you at a restaurant?

SPEAKER_00 26:03

No way. Wow. Well, I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

If Gina was like, I got this. I know that they have a dish here that you are gonna love. I got this.

SPEAKER_00 26:14

I don't even want a suggestion from anybody. How do you know what I feel like? I mean, you don't want to.

SPEAKER_02 26:20

Wait, you've never said to the waiter, like, hey, what's No, never in my life.

SPEAKER_00 26:24

No. What? No, Gina does all the time. I don't.

SPEAKER_02 26:27

I I have actually said what's your best, what's your most ordered? They don't.

SPEAKER_00 26:31

I don't trust that they even know anything. I mean, if it's a nice restaurant, it's a little different.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

Yeah, but you can tell immediately whether they're talking out their ass or not.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

I think I just don't.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

Just from their reaction. You know, I have I did that the other day in a few.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

Gina did it at Tommy's the other day.

SPEAKER_02 26:45

And what was their answer?

SPEAKER_00 26:46

It was just a bunch of bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 26:47

Were you angry at her? Did you get annoyed?

SPEAKER_00 26:49

No, I know. I just knew it just wasn't going to be a good answer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:53

All right, so don't order for Ron ever. Bad idea. Bad idea.

SPEAKER_00 26:58

And just and don't get me takeout thinking I that's what I was in the mood for.

SPEAKER_02 27:01

I think I know the answer to this one. And I think are you trying to cheat?

SPEAKER_00 27:05

No, no, no. I can't say that far.

SPEAKER_02 27:07

Would you survive wearing an outfit you immediately regret all day?

SPEAKER_00 27:14

That's a tough one.

SPEAKER_02 27:16

I think I know the answer to this one. You would have a very difficult time.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Yeah, no, I think I would actually like go home and change. No, I actually, because we're by Freehold Mall. I had a client come in in one time. I didn't like the way I looked, so I I bought I bought this shirt. This is the shirt I bought, actually. That's so funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:33

Wait, you knew they were coming in and you were already here, and then you were like, all right, I'm running to the mall before they come in.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

I wasn't expecting them coming in. But I I I looked fine, but I I just didn't. It just didn't match or something, or I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

Okay. I've had to.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

Yeah. I've had no choice. You know, when you get to work, I'm like an hour.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

Oh, I've I've ripped I've ripped clothing and I've actually broken a shoe and been at work and had to, so from from now on, literally in my work bag, I have a pair of just knock around flats.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

That's a good idea.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

Because I broke a sandal, like flip-flop type sandal at work and had to tape it shut with the side.

SPEAKER_00 28:19

You know, it's funny. I took a picture of posted on Facebook. This was like 10 years ago. I wore two different brown shoes to it.

SPEAKER_02 28:24

Um yeah, I you I keep it's in my it's in my work bag. They're flat, they take up no room. And got it's a god forbid moment if I ever need to, because I have been in that situation where I've been like, How the hell am I getting to my car? So, all right. Um, would you be the only one dressed up at a casual event? Like really dressed up like Tux. Like stand out.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

No, I I I like that. I hate when I'm the opposite. So undressed, like really unlike slubby dressed when everybody else. Okay. Yeah, but I can see that.

SPEAKER_02 28:59

I'd rather be over dressed.

SPEAKER_00 29:00

Not a tux, but I I wouldn't mind being in a tie if a suit and tie if people were just in a button-down dress shirt. That wouldn't but it wouldn't bother me too much. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Yeah, I I I like dressing. I am very often more dressed up than most people. I mean, I think at work I'm probably one of the more dressed up people on my especially on my floor.

SPEAKER_00 29:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:21

Um would you survive calling someone by the wrong name?

SPEAKER_00 29:29

Yeah, I mean, especially if you're supposed to know them, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:33

I mean, I that's happened to me before, and I apologize profusely. Like, not profusely, but I say I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

Like, I I just, you know, I I mean I'm so good at never saying people's names because I always forget anyway.

SPEAKER_02 29:45

Is that one of your defense mechanisms?

SPEAKER_00 29:47

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, maybe. I mean, that's almost like asking a woman pregnant that's not as yeah, that's a no-no.

SPEAKER_02 29:53

No, no, no, no, no. You never do that.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

I did it in fourth grade. My teacher.

SPEAKER_02 29:58

That's kidding. That's different. She was. But if you are over the age of, I would say 12.

SPEAKER_00 30:05

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I never asked that question.

SPEAKER_02 30:07

Never.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

But you gotta teach your kid.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

You do have to teach your child that.

SPEAKER_00 30:10

You teach your children young that you never ask a woman if they're at uh at the restaurant in Milltown, Pasquels.

SPEAKER_02 30:17

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

There was uh, we were sitting there and this wonderful I think it was Mexican, like barely could speak English. Okay. The guy that pours the water wasn't a waiter. And uh he was so happy for the woman enthusiastic. I know. Like he was happy because you know, like Mexicans, they're family-oriented people. So when someone's pregnant, that's like a that's like a celebration. Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

It's a multi-general generational celebration. Yes, absolutely. Everybody's in on it.

SPEAKER_00 30:44

Not only did he mention it was on Valentine's Day too. And he goes, I meant to bring this up. I think I forgot to tell you that I was so cringe and so it felt so bad. So he goes, and he was so happy because you're pregnant. How many months are you pregnant? And thank God he had a broken accent because I think she understood what he said, but she was able to deflect it.

SPEAKER_02 31:06

So it never played it off like she didn't really understand.

SPEAKER_00 31:08

It ruined my whole Valentine's Day.

SPEAKER_02 31:10

Oh my god, you were upset for her or for him?

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Yeah, no, for but who were you upset more for? But he didn't know because of the language balance.

SPEAKER_02 31:17

So then wait a minute. Like he didn't get an answer, though. So didn't he realize that he didn't get an answer?

SPEAKER_00 31:21

I think she was just like, yeah, like she was I don't know what it was. I it was just like I blocked, I blacked out a little bit. Yeah, it was just like uh yeah, yeah. So don't do that either.

SPEAKER_02 31:32

Would you survive a train ride with somebody whose body odor is so bad?

SPEAKER_00 31:38

Oh no, man.

SPEAKER_02 31:40

I have had classes.

SPEAKER_00 31:41

You had that recently, right, though, with something? Where were you? No, you were someplace.

SPEAKER_02 31:45

I with the body odor. Oh, I was in the supermarket.

SPEAKER_00 31:48

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:49

I was in the supermarket where but that was a it was a f thank goodness, a fleeting because we were but it was so strong, and it was that smell of not body odor. It was like dirty hair, like dirty body, dirty clothing smells. So it was like you know this person has not seen the inside of a shower in quite a few days.

SPEAKER_00 32:09

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

I would what if it's like I so in a classroom.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

It happens at the gym once.

SPEAKER_02 32:14

How about in the classroom when you can't move?

SPEAKER_00 32:15

No, I don't know. And you can't and and I would send them to the nurse every day. Oh I think that's appropriate. Yeah, I I think, yeah. I mean, and I think you should be able to send them to the nurse.

SPEAKER_02 32:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:29

Yeah. I mean you can, but like realistically, you come here for deodorant.

SPEAKER_02 32:35

Oh, it's it's it ha I when I would suck it up because there are days where I have to leave my room at the end of the day when students leave because it's absolutely for them. I mean, I I no, it's a teenager issue.

SPEAKER_00 32:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 32:52

Then I wouldn't put up with it.

SPEAKER_02 32:53

All right.

SPEAKER_01 32:54

Would you did this one before? Would you survive waving back at someone who's who wasn't waving waving at you? I did this.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

Oh God. Yeah, I did it. I did the fucking cycle dead. This is like a little bit of an inside joke.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

So I had a uh My question was would you survive waving back at someone who wasn't actually waving at you? So you're enthusiastic, you're enthusiastically returning the wave, but you're realizing that the person was not even referring to you in the first place.

SPEAKER_00 33:41

So this is a funny story. I had I had some conflict with somebody. I had some conflict with somebody locally, and uh I I went to this big uh town meeting, and um I didn't have my glasses on. I don't wear my glasses a lot because I don't want to see anybody. And so I I had some conflict, and the husband was there, and he was doing this to me, I believe, but and I thought he was waving, and so he was like yelling at me like you better watch it kind of thing. And I waved and smiled because I didn't have my glasses on, and I didn't know who he was sitting next to because I couldn't see a damn thing. And then and then he does like the double wave. So I assume so I assumed he was special needs when you started doing a double wave. So then I did the double wave back. Or no, he didn't do a double wave. I did the double wave.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

So much worse and so much cringier than it should have.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

So then if then I take my camera and when he wasn't looking and zoomed in and took a picture of him so I could see who it was. I was like, oh shit, he's not waving.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

Not at all.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

Okay, I literally thought he was special needs. So, you know, you do this. This is like I'm harmless. Right. You know, don't worry. Right. You don't have to be scared of my special needs.

SPEAKER_02 34:54

I know, it was innocent on your part. I do, I do understand. All right, well, that's for another podcast. All right. Last few. Would you this is big for you? All right. Would you survive a no sarcasm day?

SPEAKER_00 35:11

Yeah, I'm less sarcastic now, don't you think?

SPEAKER_02 35:14

Yeah, but what if somebody said to you you had to go the entire day without sarcasm?

SPEAKER_00 35:21

So it's funny. I'm I'm conscious consciously making an effort with my humor not to be sarcastic at all.

SPEAKER_02 35:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

Yeah, so uh yeah, like you would survive?

SPEAKER_02 35:31

Do you think you'd be able to do it? Do you think you'd be?

SPEAKER_00 35:33

Yeah, you know, no, I can, but I I think what I'm doing. When I'm sarcastic now, is I'm not sarc sarcastic to the person. It's the it's when I'm making fun of them with somebody else. I'm sarcastic. So you're not sarcastic to their face, you're sarcastic on the side. Oh, I'm trying to be a little bit more clever.

SPEAKER_02 35:47

But what if you had to eliminate that altogether? Do you think you'd be able to survive a day?

SPEAKER_00 35:52

Yeah, it would be good for me to do it. Yeah. What about it's the worst kind of humor sarcasm, actually. It's the weakest.

SPEAKER_02 35:59

What if you had to not multitask for an entire day?

SPEAKER_00 36:03

No, I couldn't do that. No way. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Like what if somebody said to you, stop?

SPEAKER_00 36:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:09

You have to finish this task right now before you touch anything else.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

Yeah, no, I don't even think I wouldn't last I wouldn't last a second.

SPEAKER_02 36:20

Never.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

No.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

We could never. That's just not in either one of our natures, right?

SPEAKER_00 36:24

No. No.

SPEAKER_02 36:25

Multitasker for life.

SPEAKER_00 36:26

No. Yeah. Multitasker for life. I like it.

SPEAKER_02 36:28

And you know what? Sorry, not sorry.

SPEAKER_00 36:31

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 36:32

We'll see you next time.

SPEAKER_00 36:33

Take care, everyone. Bye. Bye.