Ep 22: Social Mishaps, Jamaica Stories, and Airplane Etiquette

In Episode 22 of Out Loud with Rob and Rachel, things go exactly where you’d expect… and nowhere at the same time.

Rachel is back from Jamaica and breaks down the all-inclusive experience, from incredible hospitality to the little things you only notice when you’re fully unplugged. That quickly turns into a hilarious and honest conversation about airplane etiquette, annoying travel habits, and the strange reality of being stuck in a flying tube with strangers.

Rob brings the conversation back to social mishaps, and this one hits. From calling someone out and being completely wrong, to pretending you remember someone and getting caught, to those awkward texting mistakes we’ve all made… nothing is off limits.

There’s also some real talk mixed in. Growth, self-awareness, and how people don’t always notice when you’ve actually changed unless you say it out loud.

It’s funny, relatable, and just uncomfortable enough to make you think.

In this episode:
• Social mistakes we’ve all made but don’t admit
• The “I know you… but don’t” Seaside story
• Airplane etiquette that should be common sense (but isn’t)
• Why people don’t recognize your growth unless you tell them
• Jamaica, all-inclusives, and people watching at its finest

If you’ve ever had an awkward moment you wish you could take back… this one’s for you.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to Out Loud with Rob and Rachel. This is what happens when two ADHD brains come together and think out loud.

SPEAKER_02 0:07

Hey everybody, thanks for tuning in to the Out Loud Podcast with Rob and Rachel.

SPEAKER_00 0:12

Hello, hello. Hope everybody's doing good.

SPEAKER_02 0:15

Rachel just came back from Jamaica.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

I did. One happy place. Everybody's in a good mood. Yeah. Literally, everyone is in a good mood. We actually asked, like, do you ever get mad?

SPEAKER_01 0:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

They get like annoyed. And actually, we went out on a boat one night, and the guy, like, there was like a docking issue, and like he got pissed, so he yelled really, and then it was like, Yaman.

SPEAKER_02 0:36

And it just goes, Did they have uh like did they have a lot of reggae music?

SPEAKER_00 0:41

It was all reggae.

SPEAKER_02 0:42

Oh, really? See, that's what I was disappointed when I went. It wasn't?

SPEAKER_00 0:46

No, it was just like and I have to tell you all reggae, all reggae, and the entertainment team that was assigned to there's two sides of the uh resort that we went to. There's an adults only, and then like a lazy river separates it, and then there's the kids' side, and the um there's two separate entertainment teams. And the entertainment team that we had on our side was so cool, like re like did everything Jamaica. It was all theme related, you know, like trivia, you know, was he they dove right into it. It was really cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

Gina, my wife, I told her you're going on a vacation, and she goes, Oh, what part? And I was like, I don't know. She goes, What hotel? Like, I don't know. I was like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

I know.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

It's like I have no idea.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

We were, I you know what, I can't even tell you exactly where it was, but it it was Inkston? No, it was in between Montigo Bay and how far from the airport? Like 45 minutes. Okay. So it was in between Montigo Bay and Ocho Rios, which was actually really good because they said if you wanted to go on any of those excursions, it we were only 45 minutes from either one of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:50

Ocho Rios is second, right? Yes. Okay, you fly.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

We flew into Montego Bay, and then it was 45 minutes from the airport to where it was called Ocean Eden Bay, and I have to tell you, I would highly recommend it. I mean, I'm not a good foodie, so I can't I can't comment on the food. Um, it was okay as far as I'm concerned. There was definitely a lot of variety. I loved the way that the resort was set up.

SPEAKER_02 2:15

Rachel was supposed to go to uh Mexico, but we invaded Mexico, so uh and um yeah, and I was a little bit afraid.

SPEAKER_00 2:25

So we um we pivoted very quickly and got a refund on our first destination. And we and I I'm actually really happy that I I mean listen, I we may have had a fantastic time in Mexico as well.

SPEAKER_02 2:39

It's the company.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

I do love, yeah, I've been best friends, my best friend and I since ninth grade. Um we travel, we've been traveling literally since we were old enough to travel on our own together. Um, we're very compatible travel buddies. Um, it's funny, she likes the window seat, I like the aisle seat. So, like literally even down to like where we sit on the airplane is good. It's good. Um that's so weird. Yeah. There's a control thing with the aisle.

SPEAKER_02 3:06

Yeah, that's what it is. You're in control. Yeah, yeah, because I don't like bothering anybody when I was like, I know.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

I don't mind getting up, but I don't want to have to go through you guys if I want to get up.

SPEAKER_02 3:17

Yeah, yeah. That's so funny. Did you bring your sleepy bag or whatever? Yeah. I was suited up.

SPEAKER_00 3:22

We'll talk about my trip a little bit, but Rob, we have you have something.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

Yeah, I got some questions.

SPEAKER_00 3:27

Yeah, we we wanted to touch on some things last week and we got a little lay weighed, so we're gonna pivot back to it.

SPEAKER_02 3:33

Yeah, so the questions I asked was from the wrong list. It was the list I didn't like, I didn't realize it. But uh, so these are like social mishaps okay, and we don't have to read all of them. I think the first five or six are pretty good. And I I you you may have done you definitely probably done this, and I certainly have. Uh have you ever called someone out and realizing you're the one that was wrong?

SPEAKER_00 3:57

Yes, yeah, absolutely, like on uh not just online, I've done it in person too. And I've gone hard at times, like yeah, all in, and then I'm like, okay, and I I I've had to e crow.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

Yeah, yeah, I've done a lot more. I I I did it when I was uh much younger, more okay like in my not much younger, but you know, 54, so my 40s.

SPEAKER_00 4:21

Okay, that's still younger.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

Yeah, but uh yeah, then I got very careful. Like after making that mistake, you're talking mostly on social media, all social media social media mostly. Okay, yeah. Because as you know, I don't talk to anybody in real life. Sure, that's true.

SPEAKER_00 4:37

Yeah, but you might have when you were in your 40s. Yeah, maybe. I mean, yeah. I wasn't I wasn't around then, so you could have been a different person.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

I don't think so at that.

SPEAKER_02 4:45

I don't think so. Yeah, you're not a chameleon like that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

You don't code switch.

SPEAKER_02 4:49

No. Now, has this ever happened to you? It can even happen to you actually. Or if you ever have you ever talked trash to someone and they're right behind you.

SPEAKER_00 5:00

No, um, because I actually um blessing or a curse. I don't I I don't mind telling somebody to their face how they how I feel if if there's something that you know, um I try to be as coothful as possible, if that's even a word.

SPEAKER_02 5:18

Sometimes it's just like you're frustrated. You know, it's not talking to you.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

Oh, like if you're angry and they're right behind you kind of thing. I'm sure that's happened to me before. Um talking shit about somebody, no, because I if I'm really angry, the person knows in the moment that I, you know. But it has absolutely happened to me where I was standing somewhere and two people were having a full-on trash talking conversation about me and they didn't know I was there. Yeah. And then when I How did you react? Oh yeah? I'm here. If you have something to say, uh God. I'm right here, bring it on.

SPEAKER_02 5:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:57

And yeah, it didn't work out.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

No. No. No, that's all right.

SPEAKER_00 6:01

No, but that's okay. Um, you know, I'm I'm of that mindset. Like if you if you have a problem with me, let's talk.

SPEAKER_02 6:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:10

Let's have a conversation.

SPEAKER_02 6:12

This is almost like the same thing, and this never happened. I never did it, but it happened it happened to me where somebody was talking about me and they text me instead.

SPEAKER_00 6:21

Oh, I yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:23

That's a good one. They were talking about you. Yeah, it was it was nothing horrible, but it's it wasn't horrible. And uh they had a point. So Oh, you learned a lesson? No, I didn't learn a lesson. You know, it it's like it was like Rob being Rob kind of thing. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 6:39

Right right, yeah. Okay, they were calling you out on something that was. Yeah, it was it was okay, it was a good friend.

SPEAKER_02 6:44

It didn't really matter too much. Did it bother you? No, I actually let it uh I let it slide. I let them get out of it.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

Did oh, how?

SPEAKER_02 6:53

Oh, uh uh they were like, oh, what I mean is I was like, no, I got you. Like, like you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

Yeah, I gave them a pass. All right. I think this was. Well, did they apologize?

SPEAKER_02 7:03

No, they didn't realize I caught on. Like I was that smooth about it. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It didn't bother me. I don't care.

unknown 7:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

I mean, if it's true, it's true. I mean, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was it was it was accurate, you know. Okay, it probably was an accurate thing. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 7:18

You never did that? I I mean I've got an easy mistake. I'm sure I have.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

I've been doing it to Rachel, but it hasn't been bad.

SPEAKER_00 7:31

I think Yeah, you've been texting me instead of somebody else. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:36

Yeah, so I have a client in Texas named Rachel. So I would text business stuff, and I know I know it makes no sense.

SPEAKER_00 7:44

And I'll question mark, question mark and then you'll be like, ah that's Texas, Rachel. Yeah, that's that's been happening a lot, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:52

At least you know there's nothing going on there.

SPEAKER_00 7:54

Right. That's true. That's true.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

Have you ever told somebody they changed, but you meant it as an insult? Like, or has that ever happened again?

SPEAKER_00 8:02

Oh, you've changed.

SPEAKER_02 8:03

Yeah. Um You changed a lot over the years. You've changed a lot. Or said to you.

SPEAKER_00 8:10

Um it's never been no, actually, because people tell me I'm I I look exactly like I in a bad way.

SPEAKER_02 8:17

Uh yeah, like change could be personality.

SPEAKER_00 8:21

No, nobody's ever said that to me.

SPEAKER_02 8:22

I think that I've just always been this me to person that I am right now.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

I've actually gotten better as I've gotten older. I've reined it in a little bit more, believe it or not. I know there's a lot of people who think that is hard to believe, but I really have. Um, so no, I don't think that that's ever happened to me where somebody's said that. Have I ever done that to somebody else? I'm not passive aggressive like that.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

Here's an interesting thing. This is what I learned in one of my books is that when you make a change, let's just say you you were passive aggressive at one time or hot-headed at one time, whatever the case may be. And let's just say I told you this before in a personal conversation, and let's just say that you've changed and you change for years. Nobody's gonna notice that are close to you until you tell them that you're not gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00 9:16

Oh, you have to like you have to tell them to actually name the change, yeah. So identify the change.

SPEAKER_02 9:23

Right. So so I used to always have have to be right about everything, about things I didn't care. And even like one time Gina said, she said something to me, I was like, No, I'm no longer like that. And then she goes, You're right.

SPEAKER_00 9:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

Right. I said, I haven't been like that in five years.

SPEAKER_00 9:40

I have had to say to people, I'm really trying not to be that way. I have made a concern, actually, in recent with my mom, you know, it's with my mom's 84. I'm in the sandwich, I have my kids and my mom. We all live together, and um, there are times that it gets a little bit, you know, trying, right? Yeah. And so I have to try to not be so right away. So I have had to say, I don't know if you've noticed, however, I have done, I have really tried to A, B insist.

SPEAKER_02 10:12

It's actually a good strategy where it really helps us if you work for a corporation right out of college and you're there for the next 20 years, which doesn't happen that often, but it could happen in teaching.

SPEAKER_00 10:23

It definitely oh my god, realistically, it happens all the time in teaching.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

So what happens is your superiors will treat you like you were 21. Like whatever bad habits you had 21, they'll in their head you still have them at 41. And so that's when it's a really important it's really important to tell them like no, I say I'm not like that anymore. No, I don't pro procrastinate anymore, I don't do this anymore. Yeah, so that's uh a good little self-help.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

All right, there you go. Self-help 101 from Ryan.

SPEAKER_02 10:54

I think that's all I had. Really? Yeah, you want some more?

SPEAKER_00 10:58

Give me one more.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

Oh, this is this is great.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

This happened. Oh my god, this happened to me last year.

SPEAKER_00 11:04

And he was gonna stop it.

SPEAKER_02 11:06

Because I didn't see this one before. This happened to me last year at Seaside Height. Acting like you remember someone and getting caught.

SPEAKER_00 11:16

By the way, I full disclosure, I do this very often. I'm trying to think if I've ever gotten caught. I do that a lot.

SPEAKER_01 11:25

I do prove.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

Especially with, I mean, students. So what happened? Tell me what happened in Seaside Park. So we're at the time.

SPEAKER_02 11:33

We're at Seaside watching a band, like on the beach, a band, having a great time. I'm I'm the sober guy. Everybody was drunk, but it was fun. It was just like a lot of drunk people, and they were dancing, like all sex, like the women, like it was just a mess, you know what I mean? Like a fun mess. Yeah, really fun mess.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

Summer night mess.

SPEAKER_02 11:50

And this guy comes up to me, Rob, how you doing? And he's like hugging me.

SPEAKER_00 11:54

And every oh my god, and you got a hug?

SPEAKER_02 11:56

Yeah, yeah. I got a hug, and like it was like I was the best person in the world that he has ever seen, right? Like, like, like, like I felt like a rock star, right? I had no idea who he was. And uh my friend Michael just trying to like envision. My friend Michael whispers in my ear, like, like when I had a sec, he goes, You don't know who the fuck he is. It's like, uh I was like, I have no idea. So I I was taking pictures of um and trying to do like a good you can do Google search with the pictures. How long ago was this? It was last year.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

It was just Oh my god, I thought you meant like a while ago.

SPEAKER_02 12:31

Oh yeah, so and then we're talking we're talking about work? No, we're we're talking about uh the same like people that we both knew really well. From from childhood. So it was from childhood.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

Okay, okay, so you knew he was a you knew the No, I didn't. I didn't know But he was talking about people you knew, so you had to have known it was a grew up in the same town.

SPEAKER_02 12:52

So you knew where you knew him from. Right, right. I knew where some context. I don't know. And he looked older than me, like like uh he was like two years older, but he probably looked a little older than that. Um because he grayed early and all that stuff. And uh I had no idea who the fuck he was. And then it took like two hours. Two hours because I got his I caught his first name, and I went to Facebook and I just typed in Michael because his name was Michael. Okay, and then names came up. Okay, that's him. And you matched it. I lived right behind in front, like we lived like behind each, like I knew him really well. I was friends with his brothers, okay. Younger brothers. No, I didn't get busted. All right, all right. But but he had a no because I was lost. Yeah, I was lost.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

Like were you able to keep up with Khan? Like, did he did he say remember when? Or were you able to remember when with him?

SPEAKER_02 13:43

He probably took me as like a little bit like I didn't want to be bothered because I was trying to figure it out. Like I couldn't figure it out. And you were focused on that. Well, I was glad I didn't ask like who he was, because that would have been a war that would have been kind of bad because I I I know him really, really well. I just haven't seen him. Okay. I haven't seen him. It would have been a little insulting.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

Well, right. So I mean, why do you think that would have been a big thing?

SPEAKER_02 14:05

When I see him on Facebook, I communicate. We banter on Facebook. I guess I never now or before that. Like yeah, like I just didn't know who the hell he was. It was it was rude.

SPEAKER_00 14:14

If you banter on Facebook, you never saw his picture?

SPEAKER_02 14:16

Yeah, I did, but I I don't know, you just look different in person.

SPEAKER_00 14:19

Okay. He had That's what you could have said. Oh my god, he looks so different in person.

SPEAKER_02 14:23

You always had these in in his profile picture on Facebook, he had these like Jeffy Dahmer glasses. Like, like, like so you always kind of like freaked me out a little bit. So like it was like one of those people that if they went off if they went off the edge, you know, you wouldn't uh if he had a falling down moment.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

Yeah, you would do you remember that movie?

SPEAKER_02 14:43

No.

SPEAKER_00 14:43

Oh, we'll talk about that in a minute.

SPEAKER_02 14:44

So anyway, so that was uh I didn't I I think I got caught. I think he was being kind.

SPEAKER_00 14:50

It took and very nice of you, Michael. Michael.

SPEAKER_02 14:54

What was weird though? His wife knew me too. I had no idea who the hell she was.

SPEAKER_00 14:57

Did you go back and search her too?

SPEAKER_02 14:59

No, I didn't get there. Yeah, I could though, but I think she's probably gotta be in some picture, right? You marry somebody from her high school or something, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:06

And I'm sure mutual married to or you know, one of those.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

It was very frustrating.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

I have said I'm so bad with names.

SPEAKER_02 15:13

Yeah, me too. I really have to forget them right away.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

I've I'll and I'll God forgive me, but I'll say chemo brain.

SPEAKER_02 15:20

Yeah. Which is a real thing though.

SPEAKER_00 15:23

It is, and ADHD. So I mean for me it's like who the hell knows what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 15:29

And COVID fog, you can blame it on the code.

SPEAKER_00 15:31

Uh I don't even go there. You might have. I mean, I I yeah, I I just for me, I go right, you know, co uh uh chemo brain, because it is a true thing. Definitely. Yeah, I didn't know which end was up with chemo. I forgot so many things that while I was going through treatment. Yeah, I bet.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

Yeah, that's uh that's a little bit of a wear and tear in your body.

SPEAKER_00 15:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's it doesn't always it doesn't go away. Definitely doesn't go away. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02 15:55

Is that known?

SPEAKER_00 15:55

Yeah, that's enough with the yeah, it's known. Yeah, it is known. It's it's there's some residuals, yeah, with a little bit of like the spaciness.

SPEAKER_02 16:02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:03

Um, yeah. You know what I've noticed though, I have to tell you, and it's funny, I before I even go over my list, um, an ADHDHD related thing. I have freaking black and blue marks all over my body because I legitimately walk into shit. Yeah, I don't clear doorknobs. I the other day I looked, I have the most gigantic black and blue mark on my shoulder that I've had for like two weeks. And yesterday I ran into another door. Uh no, the um the the the like the knob was in the worst place at the hotel, and I went like that and it nailed me. Does that happen to like I mean I I'm is it just like I'm running and I'm doing so many things at once that I just don't pay attention?

SPEAKER_02 16:52

No, I used to be a klutz. I I overcame it. I I focused on it. I I was on uh I had to be on blood thinners for a year. Oh holy shit, man. Well, so then my friends are like you just bruise. Like blood thinners, you bruise these. That's why old people have to do it. I know.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

So I mean, is my skin Are you on blood thinners? No, I'm not on it, thank God. I'm not on anything except for my chemo. My cancer stuff.

SPEAKER_02 17:16

This is uh where I east have psoriasis.

SPEAKER_00 17:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

So these aren't bruises.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

No, I have bruises. I I got bruises. I got that. I'm telling you, I got at least five right now.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

Like dark people call me out and I'll bruises what's all these bruises on?

SPEAKER_00 17:30

Well, that's what I mean. I look like I got batteries.

SPEAKER_02 17:32

I just say I have an autoimmune disease. I make them feel bad.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

It's like the guy who with this vague booking with his wife's picture and then says, Oh, no, no, no, it wasn't her. Sorry. Remember you said that about the guy? All right. My um, let's move on from my um my bruises to uh my trip. Okay, so I did have a fantastic time. I I highly recommend it. Ocean Eden Bay, great resort, amazing people. Jamaica is at least uh for us, we had a fantastic, fantastic time. But I have to go through some things that like I experienced firsthand and just I'm a people watcher, I love people watching. So I I just I I I observed some.

SPEAKER_02 18:20

And you went off the did you go off the resort at all?

SPEAKER_00 18:22

We did. Okay, we went off the resort only for one night.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

It was a little sketchy, right?

SPEAKER_00 18:26

No, we didn't actually it wasn't sketchy at all. No, ours was that's what I mean. Like I have to tell you, the resort, we did everything through the resort, so we didn't um go out with a third party at all. Like we didn't book our our excursion until we were there in the hotel lobby and we booked.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

Okay, we had a downtown rate outside our thing. So we went by ourselves.

SPEAKER_00 18:47

So our resort was literally in a gated community.

SPEAKER_02 18:52

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

And you you come down a long road before you even get to the resort. So we couldn't have walked if we wanted to.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

Sketchy was the wrong word.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

I know where you're talking about. Where were you, Montigo Bay?

SPEAKER_02 19:03

Yeah, I think so. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 19:04

There is that shopping center that's right in the back.

SPEAKER_02 19:06

People are just trying to sell you stuff all the time. I know where you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

That is right across from a resort. Um, we were not over there, but it was really nice. The entertainment was great, the setup was fantastic. But we have to talk about some airplane etiquette.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_00 19:22

Okay. The first thing is I have to say there should be a rule that you're not allowed to bring stinky food onto an airplane.

SPEAKER_02 19:32

Oh my god, yeah, that's like heating the fish at work. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

Like last night our flight was connecting and it was later. So by the time we got to the second flight from so we took Jamaica to Washington, D.C., Washington, D.C. up here. Uh, we had no choice because after we switched it from Mexico, we were just, we got what we got. Um and the flights were fine. Like it wasn't, it was great. It was very easy, seamless. We get on to the second one and it's like late already, right? Yeah. And uh we're seated and these people walk by us, and the Oh, they brought like sandwiches or something.

SPEAKER_02 20:08

I guess.

SPEAKER_00 20:09

I mean, that probably was just made in the airport, and they brought it right on to eat it on the plane.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

It was like a two-hour flight.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

It was an hour flight.

SPEAKER_02 20:18

Why you gotta eat?

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Right? Like draw leave it. Like, oh my, it was so and at that time, who wants to smell your food? And like so, then I started thinking the whole concept of the airplane is mind-boggling.

SPEAKER_02 20:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

Okay, can we just sure like talk about that for a second? That you're in this enclosed thing. So I started thinking, and you're in this tube, which I get, and it's remarkable. And like the whole concept that now you can fly in the middle of the air, like Jetson style from you know, wherever you want to go. And but you're in a capsule with strangers, and like I mean, now that I'm home, I can say it out loud. Like, it does cross your mind that like really potentially like you could go down with these people in this plane.

SPEAKER_02 21:10

Yeah, and like I'm surprised it doesn't happen more right.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Like, I I mean because and I'll tell you why. I so he the pilot gets on the plane. This was our Washington to Newark.

SPEAKER_01 21:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:22

He gets on the plane and he's like, Oh, we want to, you know, oh, this is a brand new airplane. Literally, like, literally, I think like September. And I'm like, I don't like that. Oh, that's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 21:35

Oh, like five. No, what?

SPEAKER_00 21:37

That's like a virgin flight. Like, I don't want to be part of the virgin flight. He was trying to say, let's keep it clean because it's been, you know, it's so new, and like, you know, we want to keep it that way. And I'm thinking, dude, why would you say that? Like, do we know everything's okay? Like, I was in my head, I went there. So that's what made me start. And my friend is a nervous flyer. So I can't even like I couldn't even turn and be like, like did did did did that bother you? Cause then I w she would have been like, Oh my god, now you're now now I'm going through it. But that's what started me th thinking about in this tube three and three.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

The uh Yeah. Yeah, that's it. You'll be uh what would you do?

SPEAKER_00 22:20

The demise. I mean, I don't know. Like in the people in the exit aisle, are they truly capable of helping us out if they need to? Like did they lie and say that they would help out just so they have extra leg room?

SPEAKER_02 22:32

I mean you have ADHD, you're not paying attention to D.

SPEAKER_00 22:35

Oh, I'm not paying attention to it. Are you crazy? I'm pissed that it in that it interrupted my my because I already started the movie.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

In the old days, because I was tall, they would always give me the exit. Oh you know what I mean? Like the emotional.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

So did you say you were okay with you were okay with that? Yeah, yeah, they would ask me I'm not gonna do it. They would upgrade no matter what it was.

SPEAKER_01 22:56

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:56

I mean, I get it for you because it's leg room totally. For me, it's too much stress. What so you we both spoke you're in you're an aisle seat also because it's more comfortable, me too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

Um I don't have to bother anybody.

SPEAKER_00 23:08

Do you recline?

SPEAKER_02 23:09

I don't really.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

I don't really recline.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

I find it rude. Yeah, I do. I do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

I often reclining.

SPEAKER_02 23:15

I only fly a couple times a year, so but I often forget that that's the same. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

Yeah, I I'm not a recliner. Um, I do wipe the shite out of that thing when I get on there. I take like three of those very, very potent strong. I I don't bring headphones. I when they give them to me, I keep them in my I have a carry-on bag that just comes with me wherever, and the blue, you know, I always fly United, so I'll just keep them till they die, and then I'll ask them for another one, and then you know, I'll just roll with the same pair. I don't ask for a new, I don't like that. It's like a waste.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 23:51

I mean, I use theirs, but I don't I don't keep them. Um have you ever been in a seat where you've been kicked the entire way? I have.

SPEAKER_02 24:00

In the back. You mean from the back? Yeah, yeah, like a kid.

SPEAKER_00 24:03

Yes, where the kid goes with the seat and the feet up like that, and he's just like having a time of his life.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

Sometimes it's just a pressure. It's not even like uh Yeah, no, I've I've been fully on full on kicked.

SPEAKER_00 24:13

Like literally, like head moving. Annoyance.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

I think this just do they still call him stewardess?

SPEAKER_00 24:19

Flight attendants.

SPEAKER_02 24:20

Flight attendants. I think the flight attendants do a good job now.

SPEAKER_00 24:23

Listen, I I okay, so I gotta that speaking of, we're waiting again, Washington to Newark, and there's a girl sitting in a seat, and we're getting ready to board, and the the not the flight attendant, the people that were the airline person at the gate, um, getting ready to check everybody, uh, says to this girl because she had like a a crate. I mean, you can't, you know, like the the the plastic wire basket with the little handle, you know? That's what she had with her stuff in it. Like there was a box of tampons in there, like all of her stuff.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

Everything.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

It was a pink basket with the strips open and everything, and it was like like a good like height.

SPEAKER_02 25:09

So going away for a while.

SPEAKER_00 25:11

Well, the lady says to her, Miss, are you gonna be able to fit that under Yeah?

SPEAKER_02 25:17

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_00 25:18

Yes, oh in she was young, she was young, she was in her early twenties, she was young, she got a visual. I got a visual. She was ready, yeah. She was ready, fight, she was ready to have it. And the woman was like, but I don't know if and she really didn't like she was genuinely because then later on she said something to another family about a little girl's role on thing. So it wasn't she wasn't like calling her out, she was legitimately on her job. Exactly. And and um then she sort of tried to diffuse it by saying, Oh, well, I I mean, I as long as you know, I just imagine it's gotta be hard to know if that's what I like.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Uh okay. That's what I like. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:56

She was like, Okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:59

I I I She was Jamaican her crazy.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

Well, get it. I get it. I get it. But she was not from there. She was from Washington, D.C., so that doesn't work there.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

But my second guess.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

Um she had to hold her shit together.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:15

And I don't know that I would be able to do that in a situation like that.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

That's a hard one. I mean, you know, in that case, you could trust it.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

And she was on the thing, right? Like, so she's on the thing saying it. So everybody's hearing it. She's not even Yeah. Like she it's everybody's attention is like on she's like, ma'am, you know, she was on the microphone. Oh, right, right. Yeah, and she was like, so she couldn't hold, she couldn't be mean, is what I'm saying. Oh, I got you, I got you, I got you. She had to hold her shit together.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

No.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

And she just sort of said, Okay, and she turned around and she kept on going because you couldn't.

SPEAKER_01 26:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:49

She was not winning. No. And she tried, like I said, she tried to diffuse it and make light of it and just say, Oh, I can't imagine that would be comfortable, you know. And yeah, the woman, the girl wasn't happy. She went right back at her again. And I just, again, I pause, you know, customer service like that in an airport. And and then I turned to Nicole and I was like, like that girl could have gotten in a lot of trouble if she upped it a little bit, right? Like you're in an airport. They do not mess around in an airport, right? Like they'll tear you right out of there in five seconds. They will pull you off that flight if you're rooting.

SPEAKER_02 27:23

And not a flight attendant has to deal with her the whole time. Exactly. It's not like they just disappear like you're at like meeting.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

Right, right. And then if she gets on and she's all fired up, then she's all fired up on the plane. Now she's like, you know, from you know, now she's a 10. Yeah, it was I I just I hats off to all flight attendants and airline.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

The stinky food would drive me.

SPEAKER_00 27:44

It did drive me nuts, actually. All right. Um AC in the hotel room. We had a problem with the AC in the hotel room. It just never gets cold.

SPEAKER_02 27:54

That's a tough one. It never gets cold.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

Do you sleep well when you're at hotels? I never do.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

If it's cold or warm, yeah, if it's the right temperature.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

You don't care where you are, you'll sleep anywhere?

SPEAKER_02 28:04

I'll sleep anywhere. So though the only problem is I sleep with a fan, and then when I go on vacation, I get a sleep. We had a fan. Yeah. No, that's a fan. Oh, like you a box fan. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:15

But other Is it for the noise or for the fan? Both. Well, I bring a noise machine. Yeah, yeah. I I have a little white noise machine that we set right up next to my bed so that I can I don't need I can't hear anything at night. Yeah, no, me too. I have a problem.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

Um, that's an ADHD thing. You can't because it shuts your brain off.

SPEAKER_01 28:31

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

Otherwise, I'm thinking of I can't I can't go to sleep. So that's an ADHD thing. That you need like the noise in the background.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

I just learned that.

SPEAKER_00 28:39

Yeah, or your mind is my mind is I mean, I don't sleep well anyway.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

I sleep like shit, but I don't I don't fall asleep easy.

SPEAKER_00 28:45

And I'm the opposite. I can fall asleep with my head up and then I get like three solid hours, and that's it.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

It takes me like two hours.

SPEAKER_00 28:52

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 28:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

That sucks.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

Gina falls asleep in three minutes. Yeah, that's me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

Yeah. Like, but I go to sleep like I I go I get into bed to go to sleep.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

Do you know what I mean? I don't hang out. Like as soon as I get up in the morning, I make my bed. I'm out. My bed is literally, that's what it's for. I don't chill in bed, so when I go to when I lay my head down, it's I go up three hours before GM.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Oh yeah, I go watch YouTube.

SPEAKER_00 29:19

Right. Yeah, I don't do that. I'll do that on the couch, and then once I'm ready, I go upstairs. So I I I want to talk. We had the higher um package, which I I highly recommend at our all-inclusive. Yeah. The highest package, the premium. And you get a point. Well, I mean, listen, here's my thing. We're the same way, by the way. Yeah, I bust my ass.

SPEAKER_02 29:40

I'd rather go away less.

SPEAKER_00 29:42

That's exactly what I do. Like if I'm gonna go away, it's gonna be once a year and I'm not so you have a good view. Oh my god. We had You didn't even send any pictures. I I know I can show you. I had um it was an this was oh, I did time lapse.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

Oh, did you?

SPEAKER_00 30:00

I time lapsed the sunrise. So um did it come out good? It came out amazing, and it was so funny because when I watched it, you can see like the little people running by like ants. It was like the coolest thing. All right, so we're so that was from my balcony. Oh, wow. So it's I know you can't, I mean, we'll zoom in. What was the name of the hotel? Ocean Eden Bay. Right. And the room that we got was um it had a an upstairs, like you walked up onto the there was a jacuzzi on the rooftop and a second bedroom up there. It was very cool. But along with it came this butler service, concierge service, and you get that, yeah. Yeah, and you got the person, like we got assigned two people. It's amazing. But I have to tell you, he was a very nice person. Acted every time when we were texting, like he was on it, on it, on it. Like we were even something so simple as like you were supposed to get your privilege bag.

SPEAKER_01 30:53

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:53

We never got it, and he I'm dropping it off in your room. Um I even like at the airport, he was like, Oh, they're gonna bring it to you. We were like, We're gone.

SPEAKER_02 31:03

Oh, God.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

Like, it's okay. Keep it.

SPEAKER_02 31:07

You're not a drinker. Do you drink on vacation?

SPEAKER_00 31:09

I did, I know. I'm not a drinker. Um, I tried. I did when you first walk in, of course, they give you that like punch.

SPEAKER_02 31:16

It's not a lot of alcohol in there.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

No, it's not. There were actually a couple of drinks that were really strong. Like, um I but if I drink, I drink an Aperol spritz, yeah, yeah. Which is usually what I so that I that's what I did um after a while. Like, I tried a couple of their things. Rum doesn't really do it for me, and everything is rum there, really. Like, I mean, you can get a vodka drink too. I don't I I don't drink enough to do that.

SPEAKER_02 31:37

I think they order down the alcohol and all the results. It could be, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:40

Well, you know what? It's funny, you know what they do? They well, at least at this one, they have the machines like with the daiquiries already blending, and then they just top it off with the alcohol. So it depends on how much, you know, it's so it's not this way, but that this way they can make you a virgin one or you know, or an alcohol one if they want to. But um, it was really cool, I have to say. It was a great place for families, it was a great place for um single people. And it was a variety. Yeah, it would there was a oh my god. The other side was we didn't see them because you didn't have to. There was so at the top of it was what they called like a boulevard. They call I think they called it the boulevard. That's where all the restaurants were.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

Right.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

So if you were in the adult one, you could go to every restaurant. If you were in the kids' one, you could only go in the kids' ones. Um so we saw, and it was really lively. Like, I mean, I'm telling you, if you have a family, it's a great place to go. They I I spoke to a mom, she was like, my kids are passed out every night because there is so much for them to do every day. So it was really a cool thing. I I never did all inclusive before. Oh, really? This was my first time.

SPEAKER_02 32:43

So it was good. It was I mean, I'm not a big foodie, so sometimes they have like a good like jerk plate, like the jerk pick, like it's not the main restaurant, but it's two-oh, like that off the side.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

Yes, they did.

SPEAKER_02 32:54

Yes, the resort, but yeah, sometimes that's the best.

SPEAKER_00 32:58

Yeah, there was um there was also uh pizza. Well, no, no effing pizza, man. There was no pizza there. But you know what there was? What? The little off-property little huts where you can buy just about anything.

SPEAKER_02 33:13

We uh we when we went to Jamaica we got there, I think there was like nobody there for some reason, like at that at that time. And then uh we go to the beach, some like you know, Jamaican dudes rowing up on the boat, you know, trying to sell like on the boat, like trying to sell three.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

It's so funny.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

I would I would be afraid to do anything from a context.

SPEAKER_00 33:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:36

Because only because you never know. No, I just see myself like you know, just being in like a friggin' Mexican or Jamaican jail.

SPEAKER_00 33:44

You know, yeah, like that would happen to me too. I know. I I know like Murphy's Law. Like if it's gonna be a good thing. Well, why do you think why do you think I changed from Mexico? Because I said, watch me become an international fing incident. I don't want to be, I don't even want to be a target. What are you crazy? No, thank you. Oh my god. Seriously.

SPEAKER_02 34:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

I do have to say though, all shapes and sizes, I love it. I thought it was I I love the all-inclusive vibe. Like just people, you just go there and you just you didn't have to worry about your bag. Like our bags were at our at the pool with myself. Like, you just don't I know everybody's there to just have a really good time. And you met people in the pool, you were talking to everybody, they just like it was really cool.

SPEAKER_02 34:31

How far was the pool from the beach?

SPEAKER_00 34:33

Oh, five seconds. Yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

Like, only thing I don't like about the Dominican is far.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

Is it? Is it really cool?

SPEAKER_02 34:38

I mean, the places we went, it was like, you know, it's a like Turks and Caicos, Jamaica.

SPEAKER_00 34:43

It was like Yeah, well, it's not really a I mean, it's their beach. It's like a horseshoe like almost like a horseshoe. Yeah, yes, yes, yes. So it was five minutes. You don't have to be literally five feet. Five minutes. Ten feet. Yeah, yeah. Like um, the pool ends, there's like a little grass, and then you're on the beach.

SPEAKER_02 34:58

Did you sit at the pool bar the whole time?

SPEAKER_00 35:00

We did. We had actually not we sat like um because we had the privileged, we had like a cabana, like a little cabana, and there was a bar right there, and you got we had like butler service from that too.

SPEAKER_02 35:10

Did you take any naps?

SPEAKER_00 35:11

I really didn't. It was super hot.

SPEAKER_02 35:14

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 35:14

We didn't sit at the beach that much.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

No, I mean the c in the cabana, did you did you cabanas were at the pool? Oh, I got you.

SPEAKER_00 35:20

Yeah. Um the beach, the cabanas at the beach were that's the other thing.

SPEAKER_02 35:24

They go off quick.

SPEAKER_00 35:25

Oh my god. I mean, the I got the lay of the land after the first day, and I'm an early riser. So what I would do is I was I would go up on the balcony and I kind of scoped out like when the time was that people were going and like claiming their seats. And then there was like not a lot of rafts. There were they did have rafts, but it was at a low. And um the woman our uh butler at the pool was like, you gotta really get there early. So that second, I was like, screw this. I went down there, I made sure we set us up. That was the only day we had rafts. Oh, really? Yeah, that was it. The rest of them at that, you know, it was like a fight. Um, and I I just didn't have the I didn't have the interest after a while. I just was like, whatever, I'll flew it myself. Um all right. Well, that's what we were just talking about, chair saving at like 7 a.m. There were people that literally were nuts. Nuts. Nuts. You know what I noticed about Jamaica.

SPEAKER_02 36:19

Oh, they don't come at all, some of them.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

Some of them, the seats were empty the entire time. I mean, legit, they were probably at the at the beach the entire day. And they just bogarded a chair. Right, right. Totally.

SPEAKER_01 36:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:30

Did you so I don't know if this is a difference in post-Hurricane Jamaica, but driving to and from the airport and to and from the the excursion that we went to, first of all, I was fascinated by the homes that are like gorgeous. I mean architecture, like, and then right underneath it is the tin hut.

SPEAKER_02 36:59

Right, yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_00 37:00

There is such a juxtaposition, but like who lives in that and who lives in that?

SPEAKER_02 37:06

And like Yeah, we have that in New Jersey, actually, but not like that. Not to that exactly. No, but you have Franklin Lakes and Patterson next to each other.

SPEAKER_00 37:16

Yeah, but no, these are literally like next to each other. Yeah. Like legit, like here's this big gigantic house, and then right in front of it is a a tin hut. Right. I mean with no roof and I also noticed that nothing's finished. What did you like it? Was that a post-hurricane thing, I wonder? Or is that like, did you remember that also?

SPEAKER_02 37:38

Oh no, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:39

Everything seems like it has the metal root bar the what is that called? Like the those metal things sticking out of the buildings that are literally mid-construction all the time.

SPEAKER_02 37:50

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's no it's corruption.

SPEAKER_00 37:53

I know. I know. Yeah, and they make no money there.

SPEAKER_02 37:58

No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

Like I I looked up the the um the conversion rate, and the US dollar is worth like I mean, it like 600 of whatever they use is one dollar. And tourism there is their main. I mean, we we literally watched they go to school for that.

SPEAKER_02 38:17

I mean, that's what the colleges are, the university still.

SPEAKER_00 38:20

As we were sitting there, there were two separate times an enormous group of people walking through who were being trained to now work there. Like it is a well-oiled machine, I have to say. Every single person knew what their role was. Yeah, there was somebody for this, there was somebody who brought your bags in, there was somebody who tagged them, there was somebody who then took. I mean, it was like you literally, it was an assembly line. Like every single person knew what they needed to do.

SPEAKER_02 38:47

I think I think in a Dominican, hospitality is like the biggest. And a Dominic the Dominican has one of the best hospitalities, I think, but that most of their uh university majors is hospitality. Like, like that's that's their economy. Like some countries.

SPEAKER_00 39:04

No, at least I know most of I looked it up because then I became a little obsessed with figuring out that because that's what we do. And I because you're the same way, then you get in, you have to learn a little bit more about it. So then I started Googling about Jamaica, and um literally that's that's it, it's either that or then it's like big industry, you know, like the lawyer, you know, whoever, like the government, and actually our driver was saying there were these, there was a lot of construction going on, and there were just clear fields that they were working on. And so Nicole said, you know, what's going on? What's what's happening over there? And is it a new resort? And he said, No, it's government housing.

SPEAKER_01 39:38

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 39:39

But government housing for nurses and the military like they provide. So it's complexes that you can apply to live there, and it's it's but more if you are a government employee, right? It's a government employee, not government housing where it's like assistant. It's people who work for the government. That's who it's for.

SPEAKER_02 40:01

That's part of their pay. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 40:03

It's cheaper, I guess. It's you know, more it's like a probably a safer, um, probably a gated community. They all look exactly the same. They're white, like they're all structured, they're one level, that's not a high rise, they're individual houses. Almost like I guess an army barracks kind of. What I I never was on an army base to see what they what the housing looks like, but I would imagine it's probably the same. Like, don't they all look similar? Yeah, so I would imagine it's their version of that.

SPEAKER_02 40:30

When we went to Jamaica, my son was really into basketball, and I went crazy trying to look for a Jamaican basketball jersey. Uh they don't basketball's not right there. I found one. Oh yeah, I found one. I actually have it on my phone. Yeah, I found one for me too. But uh, yeah, you would think they have a basketball team. Like every every country has basketball. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 40:49

Uh yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 40:50

Soccer is big.

SPEAKER_00 40:51

And Usain Bolt. Bobsled. And no, running Usain Bolt.

SPEAKER_02 40:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:56

Um, they they you know brought him up a lot. They talked about him. Oh, really? Yeah. Uh-huh. Like that was one of one of the days they did like Jamaican trivia.

SPEAKER_02 41:04

He was one of the American favorites. You don't remember why? He was he he was being in wasn't he the one he was gold uh he I remember he had gold sneakers, right? Well, no, he was being interviewed by like an American woman, and then uh the uh national anthem came on and he goes, excuse me. And he turned around and he was like, Yeah, you know like he stopped the interview.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

So I think that's he like Americans fell in love with the Well I do have to say and they and they say it and they I really believe like they're like it's not bullshit. Like we believe like one love, like we believe that everybody is equal. Like we love no matter what you are, no matter what religion you are, no matter where you come from. Like, yeah, I'm sure there's assholes everywhere. There's that's just the bottom line. But they were like, it's not we're not blowing smoke. Like, we're literally, this is who we are.

SPEAKER_02 41:56

We really are happy that you're like, I think a lot of the countries are like, yeah, like they are happy we are there. I remember when we left Dominican, it was like sad because we're leaving our people, you know.

SPEAKER_00 42:07

It was so sad that we're in Jamaica.

SPEAKER_02 42:08

I literally like Like I remember Henry still, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 42:11

Cas Cash with a K. Cash with a K was the in charge of the entertainment. And he had this thing where he would go, woo-hoop. And we were walking out, and Nicole goes, God, I just wish we could hear the woo-woo one more time. And literally, we were walking up to get out to the doors were opening at the lobby. And sure enough, from back at the pool, we heard woo-woo! Yes. See you later, Jamaica. Yeah, it was awesome. And I have the all-inclusive bug, and I can't wait to travel again. I really can't. Um I'm excited. I'm excited. This was a good one. I needed it.

SPEAKER_02 42:42

Gotta hit the cruise next time. You've been on that. Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 42:45

I did do a cruise. I didn't do it. Um, I didn't do it to a tropical place. So I I don't I I did it to Canada, which is a very different experience.

SPEAKER_01 42:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:55

And I did an older cruise, so there wasn't enough of like the hoopla for my kids. Yeah, yeah. So it was a little boring. Um, but I will cruise. I will cruise again. I did enjoy it.

SPEAKER_02 43:05

You don't have to get the drink package, which is like 800 bucks.

SPEAKER_00 43:08

That was the other thing. I did get it. But see, on my cruise, it wasn't separate.

SPEAKER_02 43:14

Oh, right. I guess.

SPEAKER_00 43:15

If if you wanted like the Wi-Fi and the top of the line, everything that came with it. So I was I they definitely made money off of me. It grossed me out, I do have to say.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

It grossed me out the pools. Yeah. Because there's like a thousand people in this little pool.

SPEAKER_00 43:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:33

Our pool was huge, so you didn't feel as grossed out because it wasn't slammed. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_01 43:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:41

So you didn't you weren't rubbing elbows with people I on our cruise, and I wouldn't go into the jacuzzi in our cruise because it was disgusting.

SPEAKER_02 43:48

I went on one vacation, I think it was in the Dominican, we got there, and it was almost too empty. Oh, like I don't like.

SPEAKER_00 43:54

Well, that's scary too, because you gotta wonder why.

SPEAKER_02 43:56

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it was just the time of year we went.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

There a certain hotel group that you use? Or no?

SPEAKER_02 44:03

You just go to like No, it was just we we went there a few times. It was just the one time.

SPEAKER_00 44:07

I think it was the time if you're no, I'm I'm just in general. Like, are there certain ones that you look for, like hotels? Like, have they are there ones that you think are better than others?

SPEAKER_02 44:14

No, I don't really. Hilton owns a lot of them. Yeah. Believe it or not.

SPEAKER_00 44:21

I ours was an H10. Okay. So I'm not sure if that's Hilton Town. I don't know what it is. It was the H10 hotels. Yeah. They have tons of them all over the place. I had never heard of it.

SPEAKER_02 44:30

Yeah, a lot of them are Hilt under the Hilton umbrella. Um, major ones. Good. It was great.

SPEAKER_00 44:35

I'm really but I'm glad to be back. Along with where the heart is, and I'm glad to be back on Out Loud.

SPEAKER_02 44:39

Yep. Awesome.

SPEAKER_00 44:41

Good to see you guys. Thanks everyone. See you next week.

SPEAKER_02 44:43

Bye bye.