On Theme: Design Systems in Depth
Exploring how successful design systems get built, maintained, and deliver impact for their product teams. Go deeper than tokens and get more detailed than "it depends". Expect aha moments, actionable insights, thoughtful discussions, and spicy takes from accomplished design system practitioners. Hosted by Elyse Holladay.
Podcasting since 2024 • 20 episodes
On Theme: Design Systems in Depth
Latest Episodes
Creativity and design system leadership in the age of AI, with Natalya Shelburne — #17
Chat, this is the last episode of season one! Thank you for listening and supporting the show! There's no better way to wrap up, IMO, than an optimistic and curious exploration of what it means to be a creative human in an increasingly technolo...
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But "design systems as infrastructure" is boring, with Sam Anderson — #16
Y’all, I’ll be honest. Some days, I’m scared and nervous and uncomfortable with AI’s emergence, and implications, too. But I am also curiously optimistic, and more importantly — I don’t want to use any platform I have to spread even more fear a...
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Episode 16
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Naming is hard, but have you tried working with people? with Guy Segal — #15
Guy Segal joins Elyse to unpack the messy, complicated world of… people. Guy shares practical strategies from his experience at Thomson Reuters, including the powerful "pre-mortem" exercise he used to rebuild trust and alignment for the design ...
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Episode 15
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The Four Quadrants of Design System Impact, with Ben Callahan — #14
Ben Callahan joins Elyse for a fun conversation on creating impact with design systems. Ben shares insights from his consulting experience, discussing common pitfalls like organizations expecting a design system without adequately supporting th...
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Episode 14
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Shipping new ways of working to a classic organization with the One UPS system, with Marcela Rodriguez Joos — #13
Marcela Rodriguez Joos shares the story behind the One UPS project, a massive effort to modernize and unify UPS’ brand and digital experiences through a new design system. Marcela reveals how a “why does everything look different?” moment from ...
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Episode 13
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