On Theme: Design Systems in Depth
Exploring how successful design systems get built, maintained, and deliver impact for their product teams. Go deeper than tokens and get more detailed than "it depends". Expect aha moments, actionable insights, thoughtful discussions, and spicy takes from accomplished design system practitioners. Hosted by Elyse Holladay.
Podcasting since 2024 • 22 episodes
On Theme: Design Systems in Depth
Latest Episodes
On Theme S1 Minisode 4: Converge conference 2025 Recap
I'm back from Zeroheight's Converge conference in Bristol, UK, with my recap and thoughts. In this minisode, find out my three major themes from the event: reducing complexity, shifting towards code to design, and the narratives "framing our fu...
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On Theme S1 Minisode 3: This summer's AI vibe shift and conference news!
Surprise minisode! In this quick episode, hear a few ways AI tools are useful for design systems now, my new favorite design-eng handoff tool, and three can't-miss industry events this fall.
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Creativity and design system leadership in the age of AI, with Natalya Shelburne — #17
Chat, this is the last episode of season one! Thank you for listening and supporting the show! There's no better way to wrap up, IMO, than an optimistic and curious exploration of what it means to be a creative human in an increasingly technolo...
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Episode 17
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But "design systems as infrastructure" is boring, with Sam Anderson — #16
Y’all, I’ll be honest. Some days, I’m scared and nervous and uncomfortable with AI’s emergence, and implications, too. But I am also curiously optimistic, and more importantly — I don’t want to use any platform I have to spread even more fear a...
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Episode 16
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Naming is hard, but have you tried working with people? with Guy Segal — #15
Guy Segal joins Elyse to unpack the messy, complicated world of… people. Guy shares practical strategies from his experience at Thomson Reuters, including the powerful "pre-mortem" exercise he used to rebuild trust and alignment for the design ...
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Episode 15
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