Let's Get Naked

Comedy Is The Medicine We’re Starving For with Roberta Lemaich

Anne Karber Season 1 Episode 139

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We’re living in a time when everyone feels exhausted, anxious, and ready to pounce—and almost nobody is laughing. Host Anne Karber sits down with retired humorist Roberta Lemaich to explore why real, risky, human comedy matters more than ever, how laughter reconnects us, and what it takes to step out of outrage culture and back into community. From Roberta’s dare-fueled leap into stand-up to practical ways to reduce overstimulation, this is a timely call to breathe, connect, and laugh again. If you’ve been feeling on edge, consider this your permission slip.

What You'll Learn:

  • Why humor is a pressure valve—and how it helps us see our own ridiculousness without hate
  • The story of how a dare led to an amateur night win and a comedy career
  • How online pile-ons fuel fear, fragility, and silence—and how to simply change the channel
  • Practical ways to regulate your nervous system: phone-free days, getting outside, and human connection
  • Why fixing your own stuff, setting boundaries, and finding your tribe matters
  • Small acts that ripple: sincere compliments, buying coffee, volunteering, reading to kids
  • A powerful reminder about gratitude, second chances, and using the day you have

Laugh with us, then go do one small thing in your real community today. #LetsGetNaked #Comedy #LaughterHeals #Community #PersonalGrowth

 

Roberta Lemaich is a longtime Chicago transplant of over 46 years with a deep love for baseball, good food, and time spent near the water. Known for her passion for cooking as a form of therapy, she brings a grounded, lifestyle-driven perspective centered around relaxation, connection, and enjoying life’s simple moments.

This podcast dives deep into real, raw topics—think vulnerability, triggers, and childhood trauma. But just so we're super clear: I’m not a licensed therapist, mental health professional, or anything close. I’m just a human sharing stories, lessons, and life hacks based on personal experience and a whole lot of curiosity.

So, while you might find some golden nuggets here, this is not therapy and should never replace professional mental health care. If you or someone you love is going through it, please—seriously—reach out to a licensed therapist or healthcare provider. You deserve the real deal.


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SPEAKER_00

Hey everyone, I'm Anne. Welcome to the Let's Get Naked podcast, where we dive deep into vulnerability. In this space, we'll explore what triggers us, uncover the patterns holding us back, and discover how to take charge of our own growth. If you're ready to dig in, be vulnerable, and face the tough stuff, then buckle up. It's time to get naked. There's something deeply messed up happening right now. We've built a society where everybody's exhausted, everybody's anxious, everybody's offended, and almost nobody's laughing anymore. Not really. And honestly, I think comedians might be the ones that save us. No, seriously. Because comedians have always been the pressure valve for society. They walk directly into the uncomfortable stuff, the weird stuff, the painful stuff. The stuff everybody's thinking, but nobody wants to say out loud. And they make us laugh at it instead of kill each other over it. That matters. Somewhere along the line, we stopped understanding the difference between a joke and an attack. We stopped allowing people to be human. We stopped letting humor be messy. And now everybody's walking around like they're carrying gasoline, and one wrong sentence might light the whole damn thing on fire. People are terrified to speak, terrified to joke, terrified to ask questions, terrified to accidentally offend somebody they don't even know. And that's not healthy. You know what's savage scary? We now have entire groups of people so emotionally overloaded, so disconnected, so chronically angry and fragile that one comment online can send them into a complete psychological spiral that blows up their relationships, careers, families, identity. Everything around them, that's not strength, that's emotional malnourishment. And comedians, comedians expose that. That's why they matter so much right now. The best comedians hold up a mirror and go, hey, this thing we're all doing, it's insane. And instead of fighting each other, everybody in the room laughs. Because deep down, they know it's true. Laughter reconnects people, it cuts tension, it humanizes us. It reminds us we're all ridiculous. And honestly, we are ridiculous. Every single group of humans on this planet does weird shit. Every culture, every generation, every political side, every gender, every family. That's the point. Nobody gets through life without becoming material eventually. And maybe, just maybe, if we learned how to laugh at ourselves again instead of treating every uncomfortable moment like a federal offense, we'd all breathe a little easier. Now let me be clear, not every comedian is for everybody. But that's fine. That's how art works. You don't walk into a buffet, hate the meatloaf, and demand the restaurant shut down forever. You move along and eat something else. Find your brand of comedy with dark humor, excuse me, dark humor, observational, clean, savage, political, absurd, old school, whatever. But laugh often, hard with people. Because I genuinely think humor is medicine we are dangerously low on right now. So here's my call to action to the networks, to the streamers, the clubs, the producers, the platforms, the people funding content. Put more comedy into the world. Real comedy, risky comedy, smart comedy, human comedy. Not sterilized corporate nonsense where everybody's terrified of saying the wrong thing. Give people room to breathe again. Give people room to laugh again. Because this culture of constant outrage is emotionally suffocating people. And comedians, those beautiful little chaos goblins, have been trying to warn us the entire damn time. Let's get into it. Today I'm stripping it all off with Roberta Lomayic. Excuse me, Roberta. Roberta is a retired humorist and someone that I have known for 25 years. We have a fun history together, and I am so looking forward to having her come on and share a little laughter and humor and uh to all of this craziness that is happening in the world. So thank you, Roberta, for joining me today.

SPEAKER_02

You're welcome. I'm honored to be here.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you. Thank you. So Roberta was uh, we were talking a couple of nights ago when she came over to the house, and uh uh the way that I met Roberta is Cameron and I, when we first moved into our very first place, Roberta was the realtor that uh leased us the townhouse that we moved into, and we had more fun over those years because we had two little kids and we would put them to bed and we would come sit outside and we would smoke and we would drink and we would just tell stories, you know, into the wee hours of the night because we lived in the same complex and it was so much fun. So over the years, Roberta has had a special place in our hearts because she just she makes us laugh. She's you know, she's funny, she doesn't take herself too seriously, she doesn't get worked up about much. Um, and we just we just love that, you know, she just takes life with exactly how I think more of us need to do. And so we thought it would be fun to have her come on today and just kind of share from a comedian standpoint, from a making light standpoint, from uh, you know, all of the all of the things that help everybody just put things in perspective and breathe a little bit because I think everybody is so wound tight that one little bump and people are just losing their minds. And and we see that all over the place, you know. So every day. Every day. So tell me a little bit about what got you into uh comedy, maybe, or you know, what that looked like for you growing up, or why you were even had a desire to get into stand up.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you know what's interesting. Um, I didn't consciously go into comedy. I was like everything in my life was a dare. So we were out clubbing, and they had an amateur night, and uh a friend of mine said, You don't have a hair on your ass if you don't get up there and do it. And she, and I'm from Chicago, so there was money involved in the bet. Yeah, so it was like a hundred dollar bet. And I said, I'm in. Yeah, I went up. I had no material whatsoever, and um I won, I think first prize was 500 bucks and a bottle of cavassier south side Chicago, so it was cavassier. I love it, not Remy Martin, you know what I mean? Sure, so um, so I won the bet, and then I thought, hey, I like doing this. Yeah, this was fun, and not for me, it was fun to see other people happy. Yeah, that was the rush, that was that's the hook. And then I thought, I think I could do this. So I started writing and I started going places and doing comedy, and it took me to places I never imagined.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And you know, back then, I'm old, I know I look good on camera, but I'm old. But you know, it was like I didn't know what that world was about. And here I was, and I go, they laugh just like we do. They're people, so it kind of teaches you, it dispels everything you think, and you're taught, you know, because you're taught hate, you're taught those are things you're taught how to be mean, how to be cruel. That no one's born that way. Yeah, it's it's not inherited, it's something you develop by your environment. Um, and I thought, I can have an impact on the environment from that standpoint, so that's what got me interested.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

In the human condition. You know, some people go to Starbucks and people watch. I I go everywhere and people watch. Yeah, you know, and I interact. Sure. Nobody interacts, yeah. Nobody interacts anymore.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So well, and that's part of the, I think that's part of what has us in in the the predicament that we find ourselves is people don't interact, people don't find common ground, people don't understand that we're humans first, people don't understand that there is humor in all of the things, you know. You can make fun of anything that I am as far as a group is concerned, and I think it's great. I think that's excellent. I don't get offended, I don't clutch my pearls, right? Don't have hate behind it because I think that that's the big the big component of it is comedians aren't doing that. They they are trying to um, for the most part, I guess there are some comedians that have hate behind it, but for the most part, I think they are trying to do their part in kind of pointing out things that are this is real, and that's what makes it funny, you know. It's like the the different stereotypes or the different um, you know, things that that they get in on. As long as they're making fun of everybody, perfect, right? That's what it should be.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and I think that's what they do. Of course, there's people that lean a certain way just because that's what they know. And that's what they know, and that's how they and that's what drives their humor. So don't think it's an intentional um, we don't like the right, so we make jokes about the right only. I think it's just the stuff they find funny. Yeah. And if you're on the right, I think you find stuff that's funny about the left. Yeah. And to be honest, there's some funny shit going on on both sides.

SPEAKER_00

There's some there's some content for days. Like we would never run out of content. And also, it's funny. You know, I think I think a lot of people who get offended by comedy, it's like, if that's not your brand, then change the channel and find somebody that is. But when you when you have a really lovely laugh session, right, when you came over a couple of nights ago and we just sat up there and laughed and laughed and laughed, that just relieves so much pressure in life. Just all of the things, it puts everything in perspective. And it doesn't have to be geared at any one thing. It doesn't have nobody has to be sensitive about it. Is some of the things that I do, you know, funny? Sure. Or some of the things that you do funny, sure. Great. Then let's have a laugh about it and hug and send each other on our way and and be fine instead of like we're gonna blow our lives up because you know, somebody said I was an asshole if I blocked traffic a certain way. I mean, Jesus Christ. Think people out there, it's it's it's scary. I didn't realize how bad it was out there. Like I knew it was bad, I didn't realize how bad it is out there.

SPEAKER_02

Um I try not to go anywhere around people. Yeah, I mean, unless it's something fun.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So like if it's if it doesn't include laughter, I'm not going.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Like I go to my pool where I swim. Yeah. They're all young kids, they're great, you know. So this generation kind of gets a bad rap. Um, I could probably drown in that pool, and that guy would be scrolling on his phone. But he is funny as shit. So you kind of gotta like take the good with the bad. But um, and and he's a great guy. But I we laugh and we put on music, and it's like, it's kind of like going to the bars in the 70s, only there's no alcohol, and you realize you really don't need that stuff. Yeah. You know, you don't, everybody's self-medicated, everybody is uptight, like you said. Um, every and everybody's so rigid about the rules. The rules. When somebody gives me a rule, I go, oh, opportunity to break something.

SPEAKER_00

100%. Because that's happening. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Like, okay, rules are good, they prevent chaos. You got to have systems in place to do that. But you know, whatever happened to getting together like we do, like the other night, yeah, sitting and watching a sunset. I sit out every morning where I live, I drink my coffee, and the surrounding area is not that great. But right in front of me are yellow lantana and a bush, I say with a penis growing out of it. It's another leaf, but it looks like a penis. But you know, everybody goes, Oh, you shouldn't say that, you know. Like a penis is part of the body. Like, what's the everything's dirty? It's what you make it here. 100% words are words.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you know, don't get so worked up.

SPEAKER_02

Well, just people are just wound really tight.

SPEAKER_00

But I think part of that though is because we've we've been where anybody says something and you have this other group of people that just annihilates them, right? Especially online. It's like if you have an unpopular opinion about something, there's almost this mob mentality. They pile on. They do, they pile on for whatever your opinion is, which is excellent. And also no one cares, right? So great, thanks for your opinion from the cheap seats, but no one gives a fuck. And and I don't think people, I'm not saying that to be offensive because people that are in my cheap seats, I'm in their cheap seats, right? Like if I don't have a close-up view of whatever you're doing with your life, my opinion should matter not at all, right? Because I'm in your cheap seats. So same thing. So when people comment where they think they have some sort of, you know, moral code that they're going by because they didn't like whatever, just keep it moving, right? If this isn't your vibe, change the fucking channel. Like, I just don't understand that. But comment what?

SPEAKER_02

What are you doing?

SPEAKER_00

Right. What why are you wasting?

SPEAKER_02

What change are you bringing? What actual action are you performing to change what you don't like on your TV in front of you? What are you doing? What actually are and everybody can do something 100%. Everybody can do something, like even one little thing. Because if one person does one little thing and you multiply it by a hundred million people or whatever, yeah, I'm being outrageous here. Um that makes change.

SPEAKER_00

It it does, and I think people don't realize that. It's like they sit from the comment section and make comments about things that they have no involvement in, they don't have the full story, all of the things. Why don't you spend that time and go make connections with people in your community? Or go or go service community, you know, go service things in your community that speak to you, whether that's dogs that are, you know, uh not taken care of well, or sexual trauma in children, or there's all of these different things, prison systems and and and reform. Like there's all of these different things where what sparks you, go get involved in your local community in that area and spend whatever time that you thought you were being helpful screaming into the void online. Go ahead and just save that time and go get plugged in somewhere in your community where you can actually see results. That's how we do change, or work on yourself, go inwards and fix your own shit, right? That's how I mean again, I realize that's a really unpopular uh thing to say is people wants to fix their shit. Nobody wants to, but the problem is that's where it starts. You know, like when when Aunt Jeannie had that little, what are they, the the cross cross-stitch picture on her wall that said, like, be the change you want to see in the world. She's not wrong, right? There's a reason why someone went at all. Yeah, there's a reason why someone took the time to stitch that into a you know, into a fabric. It is actually true. Be the change that you want to see because when we do that, it ripples out and other people see that instead of just being that hateful person behind a keyboard. And also, we should still be able to have debates and you know, back and forth with being respectful. You know, I had this whole thing recently where lots of people were saying lots of amazing, interesting things. I can still call you, sir. I can still say agree to disagree. I love your opinion. Also, there's lots of different scenarios out there. It doesn't have to just be black or white. You know, I try to say to people like it can be a six and a nine, depending on what your perspective is. And I think that's really uh savagely important for other people to understand.

SPEAKER_02

Just like that dress, red or blue, red or blue green or whatever. Exactly. I never got that right anyway.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

But I agree, and I think people just don't. Um, I think people are lazy. I think people are lazy and I think they're overworked and they're um over stimulated. Overstimulated is a is a perfect I mean 15 cups of coffee just to get through the job, then they come home and they expect to crash. Well, they're not gonna crash because they got this family that's crazy. Yeah, and it's just a constant, they're on this little wheel, this little like a little hamster just going round and round and round. And I like got off that merry-go-round so long ago, I can't even tell you. Like, I can relax to the point of just falling asleep. Yeah, me too. I could put myself to sleep.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, if you can raw dog going to bed at night, kudos to you. I can, and it's and it's a it's a flex in the best possible way.

SPEAKER_02

I don't need a Gregorian chant.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. I don't I don't need anything. I don't need to have, you know, whatever. I can just lay down at night and allow my brain to just go to sleep.

SPEAKER_02

But I think it's how you go through, yeah, but I think it's how you carry yourself through life. And and um I wish I could take notes during your introduction because you you touched on a lot of great things there. And one of the things I'm gonna recall is you know, I think people don't laugh anymore like they used to, because people don't get together like they used to. So they have these great big houses. I sold real estate for 25 years. They buy these great big houses and they don't have anybody over because you know why? They don't want to get the kitchen fucking dirty. I know, is that crazy? Like, why are you? I had the smallest apartments with the biggest kitchens, and we packed everybody in there, and that's where it took place. Yeah, that's where it happened. Food, drink, good laughter, good fun, good poking at each other. Yeah, well, so comedy is contagious, correct? It is, and the reason when you go into a nightclub, a comedy, a comedy place, the tables are close together. You know why that is? That's by design because people are afraid to laugh at something that makes them uncomfortable. But when you put people close together and they see somebody else laughing, they go, Oh, it's okay. It allows them to laugh, it gives them permission to laugh. People feel like now more than ever, they don't have permission to laugh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, they're tired of getting beat up by people from the outside that say that's not funny or I'm offended, or those are the people who don't have a sense of humor.

SPEAKER_02

And I say, drop those zeros, yeah, find yourself a hero. Find somebody in life you can enjoy and laugh with. Because when the newspaper comes down in the morning and it's been 20, 30, 40 years you've been together, everybody gets ugly.

SPEAKER_01

That's true.

SPEAKER_02

And you know what? That should be funny enough. I should. But find somebody you can laugh with.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Because if you can't laugh with that person, they're probably not paying attention.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and I think everybody has gotten to this place where it's like if they don't agree, that person, the other person that doesn't agree with them becomes public enemy number one. And it's like, we don't have to agree on everything. Like, that's outrageous to me. Like, we you and I agree on probably half of the stuff. Half of the stuff, totally different. Doesn't matter, we don't have to lead with that. We can we can have the the humanity in common.

SPEAKER_02

In the common ground.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly, in the common ground. And we don't have to go like, oh, well, we don't agree on fill in the blanks, whatever it is. Who cares? I can respect you as a human being and say, that's interesting. Share with me why you believe that, and I can listen to you with the intention of understanding instead of while I'm listening, creating my defense or interrupting you and not even allowing you to. We've gotten to where that's so commonplace now. No one even lets the other person finish. And it's like, how can you possibly understand someone where you won't even let them finish their sentence and/or you're making your defense the whole time that they're talking? It's like we got to get back to the basics, you guys. I mean, really, we've got to get back to the basics.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's listening skills.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Those kind of basic skills, nothing's changed in the world. You know what I'm saying? Nothing's really changed in the world. We've been fighting religious wars since the beginning of time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

We've been having this debate for a million years. Um, Congress does nothing. I'm still voting on shit. I voted in March 4 when I was 20 and 17.

SPEAKER_00

Why are we doing that?

SPEAKER_02

Like it's just a big farce. So you know what? Leave that noise out of your life. Go make your life your life because it is your life. It's nobody else's. Agreed. And Jesus, if you can't have fun during it, it's so it goes by quick. I've got some years on you. Yeah. Let me tell you, I can't believe it's Wednesday.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Because to me, Sunday was a week ago, not three days ago.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it goes fast.

SPEAKER_02

Goes fast.

SPEAKER_00

And nobody looks back at the end of their life, right? Like do some research and see, you know, just Google what people's number one regrets are on their deathbed, right? We've been given a roadmap. We have knowledge right in front of us. Take that for what it is and do something different about it because we're meant to laugh. We're meant to not take ourselves so seriously. We're meant to have fun. We're not supposed to be in this thing where if you don't agree with me, I'm gonna take the hammer and hit it over your head and just go around life at an eight where you're just so close to blowing up your entire life because you can't handle anything and you haven't, you know, processed or fixed any of your shit, and you're just pissed off and angry all the time for no reason. Like I have so many people in my life that are so angry all the time, and it's like you realize you have control over that, right? And you realize there's a way better way, right? I mean, do whatever you want, but fuck.

SPEAKER_02

But I think there's always gonna be that population that you'll never get through. And you just have to know when to say, I've had enough.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, sometimes walking away is the best thing for you. It is. Um, and the best thing for that person because eventually they'll find somebody who will make them have a come to Jesus moment, so to speak.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And maybe it's just not you. Yeah. And maybe that's just not where you belong in that life. And get outdoors and enjoy nature. This consumption society we live in. I like nice things, don't get me wrong. I like my modern conveniences. But we've become a consumption society for for a long time now. I mean, just look at billionaire Bezos if we're not a consumption society. And I'm guilty of Amazon too. Of course. Love Amazon. I think I said to you the other day, we were on the deck, and I said, Boy, I wish I came up with that idea. You know, I mean, I'm great. I don't deny anybody making millions and billions, but you know what? Give back.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Give back.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You're not paying taxes. Give back. Give back. Yeah. Somebody paved those roads for you to deliver that shit off of that truck. Give it back. Give back to society.

SPEAKER_00

I think if people looked at things from more of a, you know, human level instead of all of these differences, right? We find all of these reasons why we're different instead of starting at the base of connection, you know, connecting with another person on we're humans. Let's start there, right? We don't have to say, I'm this very specific all the way down this path, and you're this very specific all the way down this other path. And so there's no way that we're gonna have common ground there. Start lower on that. We're humans, right? Like you and I can connect as humans, you you and I can connect as women, you and I can connect as, you know, all of these different things. We don't have to say, well, I believe this thing and you believe that thing, and so you're out of your mind and screw you, screw you. Everybody's offended, and it just uh And you don't have to get it right the first time.

SPEAKER_02

Of course, like it's okay to screw up, yeah, and it's okay to screw up again and again and again. But what is important is to come back and validate that other person's feelings by sincerely apologizing, not just say the words I'm sorry, say the words I'm sorry, and then prove it through action. Don't say I'm sorry and repeat that pattern time after time after time. People will distrust you and rightfully so, because I don't like to get burned all the time, do you? No we're human, like you said. We get hit, we get pricked, right? We all bleed. Yeah, I don't want to bleed. I don't want to bleed for somebody that doesn't want to bleed for me. No, I'll bleed with you, but I won't be the only one bleeding.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I I think too, like when you're when you're talking about, you know, people that are around you and not having people that, you know, getting people out of your life if maybe they're not the the right fit or if they're negative, whatever. Find your tribe and then just double down on that right now. Be a good person in that. We're not meant to know every tragedy that is happening in the world right now. We're not meant to do that. And so when you talk about overstimulation earlier, I think that you hit the the nail on the head with that because I think when you wake up in the morning and the first thing that you go for is you know your device and it's what messed up thing happened in the world right now, right? And it's like children are being separated from their their mothers and and you know, people are being bombed over here, and people are like you said, that stuff has been happening forever. We just didn't know about it because we didn't have the technology that brings it to your front door all the time.

SPEAKER_02

And also I mean, I think it should stop.

SPEAKER_00

I don't disagree with you. I don't disagree with that. I think it should stop.

SPEAKER_02

I think it's like totally ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00

I don't disagree with you, but here's here's the here's where I was going with that. If if I look at that, if I open my device and I look at that, what value is that bringing to me other than just depleting me and my energy and my resources and my attention, right? I can't do anything about that right this second. Right. So you're just you started your day with that. You're literally making yourself sick. We're making ourselves sick with our devices. And they're there are billion-dollar algorithms that that you don't, your poor mind doesn't stand a chance against, right? It doesn't. It's like these dopamine hits with the likes and with the notifications and with the all of the things. And it's like people don't even know how to set their phones down anymore. I met a gal and and her husband uh a couple weeks ago, so loved this idea. We were at a coffee shop, my couple of girlfriends and I at a coffee shop, these folks are sitting next to us at like this community table. We start talking with them, and we were gonna exchange phone numbers at the end and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And the one gal says, Oh, we don't have our phones because we we don't carry phones with us on Saturdays. And I'm like, What? And she goes, No, we just leave the house on Saturday mornings and we just go live our lives and we go. Great idea. That's exactly what I said. So here's what I would encourage. This is my challenge, right? Pick a day of the week, maybe just one day a month or whatever it looks like. Leave your phone on the charger at home and just go live your day, right? Are you gonna get lost trying to figure out where you're going? Maybe. Wouldn't that be?

SPEAKER_02

I know, but then just forget.

SPEAKER_00

I know, but you but young people, younger people don't do that, right? Or you know, and so it's like, you know, I was talking to, we were talking to our son a couple of days ago about um what did you guys do before maps and GPS? And we were laughing about sometimes you got lost, you know, a lot of times you got lost. You had to ask for directions.

SPEAKER_02

And you found something you didn't even know you would find.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly, right? It was like this fun adventure all the time. Now we don't do that. Now we've crammed so much and we're so overstimulated, and nobody knows how to regulate their nervous system. Nobody knows how to even get outside and get your feet into some grass or some sunshine on your face. And it's like, no wonder everybody's ready to snap at any given moment, right? I mean, ready to snap at any given moment. It's not getting better. We have to do something in a bigger way than just keep screaming into the void, you know.

SPEAKER_02

It's hard to just laugh that off. It is because it's not authentic. Yeah, like some people go, Well, I just laugh that off. And I go, I don't know. Sometimes I find it hard to laugh that off. Yeah, like you know, people need to chill out. Yeah, people need to go outside, and I like I swim three days a week. I I'm not Esther Williams in a pool. Yeah, but I'm out there, I'm in the sunshine, it's like, ah, the world is great. Yeah, this is great. And I think about I live in this little community where everybody's kind of well, I shouldn't say this if they listen. Oh, they won't listen, they're too stuck. But anyway, they they are just so their whole life is about going to fries and what's on sale and who did what to whom. And and I come in, like I'm the new kid on the block, and I come in and I'm laughing and dancing and wearing tight pants and laughing and having fun, and you know, they don't like me, and I don't care. You know what I mean? It's kind of like, Jesus, will you guys relax? And they those people have never learned how to relax. So I don't think you're gonna be able to teach some of the people this stuff, yeah, but boy, we should start instilling this in kids at a very young age. I wish there were more comedy places, you know, there's theater groups, and that's even great. Put your kids in the arts. I think the arts are important. The arts let you develop a sense of creativity or to find out where you're at on that creative level. Yeah, and I think we have lost a lot in this time of these kids growing up. No one knows how to be creative except how to make money. But how about to make people laugh? How about that's a medicine? It is. How about making people feel comfortable? How about making people feel loved and needed and appreciated? What about those things? You can't buy that at Amazon.

SPEAKER_00

Let's be real. Life doesn't come with a manual, but it does come with chaos. I wrote this book because I got tired of drowning and everyone else's noise and needed a way to fix my own shit. This isn't some sugar-coated self-help nonsense. It's trash, it's honest, and it's packed with tools that actually work in the middle of real life. If you're ready to stop playing small, take back your energy, and get unapologetically you again, this book is your playbook. You can pick up your copy of the Life Pack Playbook on Amazon or on our podcast website, let's get nakedpodcast.com. No, you can't, and I think you hit on a really important part of like we've been we've been um programmed that what success looks like is what kind of car you drive and how much money you make and how you dress and all of these things.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I hope they don't judge me. My car's 30 years old. I told her not to not to put it on camera, but I don't care. No, it works.

SPEAKER_00

It doesn't matter, but the thing is we've we've prescribed that to kids that like these, you know, if you have a picture of you're standing in front of a private plane and oh, how great that is, or you have all of these jewels or all this money. And so we have these kids who are glued to their devices because now we issue them as soon as you come out of the womb. That's the standard now, and so that's what kids think. And then they get their dopamine hits from the likes and the other thing is a girl, young girl posts a bikini pick and she gets, you know, 300 likes or whatever. Now she's geared that way to that being what is important to her.

SPEAKER_02

And well, and that is what's gonna get her attention.

SPEAKER_00

100%. But but look at just go outside. Have you gone for like an awe walk where you just go and and check nature out and they're in awe of how amazing stuff is outside? They'll never do that because you're hit with this dopamine stuff where it's like instant gratification, instant. Like it's crazy to me.

SPEAKER_02

Well, yeah, well, that's why kids are like 10 and 8 years old and they're type 2 diabetics already. I don't know about when you were growing up. When I was growing up, you were like, it was like, hey, Rose has diabetes. And I go, how old is fucking Rose? And they go, 80, and I go, well, shit.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_02

That 80, that's but these kids are eight and they they're like the I was like uh, you know, I was like stick art. Yeah, you know, I held my pencil up in school. I don't look like that now, but I earned this shit, but and I make no apologies. Um but you hold your finger up and you I got marked absent, but I was outside all the time. So we came home, we did homework, we got to go out. But everybody, even the three stooges, we watched the three stooges. Now they're considered violent. Like I never went to jail killing somebody because I watched the three stooges, and that was comedy. But see, people, it's like kill the comedians. Why?

SPEAKER_00

I I think I think we're coming back from that. I feel like there was I do. I feel like there was exactly what you're talking about. I think people got so sensitive and so offended that I feel like we didn't have as much comedy. Now, now, mind you, I come from this place where I go to stand-up shows all the time. I go to I I support comedy, I support the arts, I support all the things. I think that that's exactly who needs to help fix our our society where it is right now. Um but I do feel like it's coming back around with people just understanding that everyone's gonna be offended. Like it's fine. If it's not your vibe, change it to the next thing. You don't have to, you know, stay and comment and clutch your pearls and tell us all about it. We don't care, right? Just keep it moving.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and when you say we need more laughter, the and not that you learn from the laughter. What you learned from is when you create levity, you get people calmed down enough. That's what it's about. The comedy is to have you let go, let yourself go. And then you can see just how ridiculous you are being about yourself. I notice it about me. Sometimes I go, what the hell am I thinking? And why am I uptight about that? What is it that's making me uptight about it? Is it something I can change? Is it something it makes you look inward? People don't have time to look inward because there's no levity because they're doing the social media thing first thing and being judging who they are by how other people feel about them.

SPEAKER_00

Terrible.

SPEAKER_02

It's like the worst place you could come from. Yeah, I think.

SPEAKER_00

I highly encourage people to get the hell off of social media. That's just my personal opinion.

SPEAKER_02

You know, I'm like almost done. I have long distance friends on Facebook. I don't have any local people. And I started doing that like a year a few years ago when I moved. Um, somebody said to me, Can I be your friend on Facebook? And I said, I see you every fucking day. Why do I why do you need to be on Facebook with me? And now I read how long I've been on. It used to be like you, Facebook time was four hours, six. Now I go on, it's like uh you haven't been on for like a week. And I'm like, Yes, yes, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, it's it's funny too, because here here's a here's a I'm gonna tell a fun story about social media. So Cameron and I, when we had young kids and when we were starting our businesses, and and I hustled hard, so I had main business side hustles, all of the things we were constantly going. And so I didn't have time for social media. And so up until doing this show and you know, understanding that that needs to be part of promoting it, and I had someone else that took care of it for a while, and now I'm in between people, and so I'm trying to um do my best where I have no idea what I'm doing, just so everyone knows. I have no fucking clue what I'm doing on social media. I don't know how to open things, how to hashtag, how to do we even hashtag anymore? I don't fucking know. It's like a joke with my with my assistant and I like are we hashtagging now? Like, but I don't know any of that shit either. Exactly, just fine. And so so I look at this and I look at how worked up people get on all of the things. Because for me, it's like social media should be like, you know, fun little videos of goats jumping around and you know, inspirational stuff, but that's not what happens. There's lots of different stuff on there, lots of angry people, lots of really angry people on there. And to me, I think you would rather do this than go outside, you would rather do this than fill in the blanks, whatever it is. It doesn't even matter. And then you look at what an average person's time is on social media, and I think, God, we're missing something. Like we're we're missing it and we're missing it hard. It's like that is not what we should be spending our time doing, and it makes you sick. So it's like you go to a restaurant, you get food poisoning, you realize it's bad when you're eating it, and you go, you know what, I'll take a to-go box. And you bring that home and you put it in your refrigerator, and then every day you just take just enough to make you feel like, you know, nauseous, just enough to not really make you have diarrhea, but just enough to like have your stomach feel like shit forever. That's what you guys choose to do on purpose. Like, I don't understand that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and I think those people kind of flock toward each other using a restaurant analogy. It's like going to a restaurant and you're eating soup and there's a cockroach in it, right? Right. And you tell the waiter, there's a cockroach in my soup, and he says, Would you like me to bring another bowl? Yeah, well, no, it's in the same pot. And then I'll pass, they got pass. Well, that's what you got to do with those kind of people. You have to pass. Like you have to just go, you know, uh, there's some people that love being unhappy.

SPEAKER_00

They really a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02

They love being unhappy. There's other people that are stuck and don't know how to get out. And I think that's where the comedians come in and go, maybe we could show them another way. Yeah. Um, but I think there is that population that just, you know, uh, they would bitch if they got hung with a new rope. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So you kind of have to let those people hang themselves. What I mean, really. It's just two. I don't know. It's okay. We are. We got enough assholes to cover them. So we're all right. We're never run out of those people, believe me.

SPEAKER_00

You're not wrong. I just I it it makes me sad for for those people because I just think you're there's no there's no. Yeah, but life's a choice. I know.

SPEAKER_02

Life's a choice. And you know, you you make bad choices, you pay the consequences. You make good choices, you reap the rewards. Um, you learn or you don't learn. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I just don't understand how people can't understand that the lives that they're living right now are based on their choices, right? Because people act like, you know, this is happening to you. And it's like, no, that's actually not how that is.

SPEAKER_02

No, it's it's people that don't, again, don't are not paying attention. They're overstimulated. They don't even and these people don't even brush their own teeth. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

They just I think I've had my head in the sand for too long. The things are things are pretty bad out there, and I just didn't realize this this whole thing with the with the merging traffic post, it really has shown me how how savage things are out there. And also I don't get it. It's like everybody count to 10 and let's just have a have a breath. Have a breath. But that's not where people are. People are ready to burn their lives to the ground. There's comments in there that are like, I'll put you in the wall, you're not getting by. I mean, like, whatever. And I'm thinking, holy. I'm like, I hope your kids aren't in the car. Like, that's what you're willing to do. I guarantee you, these people are parents. It's like you're going to burn your life to the ground.

SPEAKER_02

But where do you think they learned it?

SPEAKER_00

Well, no, I know, but it's just every everybody's just pushing stuff down and numbing on top of it. It will come out. It comes out sideways every fucking time.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and I think a lot of that has to do with people are self-medicating one way or another.

SPEAKER_00

100%.

SPEAKER_02

They're, you know.

SPEAKER_00

We all do. Well, we all do. That's the whole thing. It's like I'm not coming from a place of judgment. I have, I have all sorts of shit that, you know, over the years, it was like workout and alcoholic.

SPEAKER_02

But I admit it, and then I take a little piece each day and work on it. Yeah. You know what I mean? I do. And then if I don't want to work on it, I go, I don't want to work on it today. I'm it's tiring.

SPEAKER_00

You're but you're aware of it, right?

SPEAKER_02

Like that's and I try not to put that on other people. I try to, I, I try, if I like you and you're in my tribe, that's because I like you. If I'm putting up with some of your shit right now, anybody who's in my tribe out there, if I'm putting out with some of your shit right now, it's because I like you. It's because I chose you to be part of my tribe. It's an honor. That's how I feel about me. If that is egotistical, then I'm egotistical.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But it's I know my value, I know what I bring to the table. And I think a lot of people don't know their value or think they don't have any value. Therefore, they don't speak in terms other people will understand and they don't let other people in. A lot of people that are angry also have a lot of walls. Did you ever notice that?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, they do because they've built around their, that's what their triggers are, right? It's like somebody hurt them in whatever way it was. They build walls around that because they don't want to get hurt again.

SPEAKER_02

They don't want to let anybody in.

SPEAKER_00

100%. But then it prevents connection, it prevents all of these things. And then they're they're just this angry, pissed off, whatever. I always think about that. There's that movie with Clint Eastwood, and he's he's sitting out on the lawn yelling at the neighbor kids, you know, and he's this old guy whose wife died years ago, and he's just a miserable prick. And it's like, that's the conveyor belt you're on.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

If you're in that place. So that's what's where you're going. That's what you want to be. It's like, there's a different way. And but you do have to fix your shit. You do have to fix your shit.

SPEAKER_02

You have to fix your shit. That is important. And I don't care how you do it, yeah, just do it. And I don't care how long it takes. Take the time. I did it. And no, does it fix all your shit? Yeah, of course not. No, no, it doesn't fix all your shit. But what it tells you is, hey, I do have shit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And guess what? When I fix this, there'll be more shit to fix. I'm always Fixing shit. And you know what? I'm grateful for that because that's what makes me feel alive.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and you know, it's funny because when we're as we're talking about comedians and what they bring to the table, it's like um they point out the different things that in a funny adding humor to it where you go, oh shit, that's me, right? Yeah, isn't that such a beautiful thing? When they're like, oh, hey, look at these ding-dongs, right? Look at these ding dongs that are doing whatever. And I'm like, oh, that is me. Do I think that's a good thing?

SPEAKER_02

Or even not even so much look at them, look at look at me, and this is how I am. Um, who was good at that? Seinfeld was always good at showing how stupid and ridiculous, you know, how he would yell about look at this guy, the soup Nazis, and all those famous liners and um writing and having coffee with comedians and cars. You know, like comics are a different kind of group of people because we're the the first people as comics. We go, screw it, we don't care what anybody thinks. Like somebody will say, you know, that was kind of cold, Roberta, or that was kind of, and I go, Yeah, but you don't understand, we don't care. Yeah, which is because we think it's we're just pointing out the ridiculous, you're taking it to heart.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, which is beautiful. And I think you have to have thick stick, thick skin to be a comedian, don't you think so? Because people say all sorts of shit about whatever everyone's very opinionated.

SPEAKER_02

And you know, you you get heckled and you get, you know, and you got to think when you're starting out in comedy and you're new, um, you're performing mostly for those kind of people because they're all drunk. So those are those self-medicating people that say, oh, we want to have a good time, but where you also want to screw up your life, and that's where your practice comes in and your and your backbone.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And everything's a learning experience.

SPEAKER_00

Well, there's so many different styles too. I think, I think comedians that are able to develop and use whatever their material is that they have in their upbringing, you know, there's one of the comedians that I really love. Um, his name is Chad Daniels, and he rides the Catholicism train pretty freaking hard. And I love it personally because I ride that train hard myself. Uh-huh. Um, if it's not your jam, change the channel, right? For me, it is my jam. And he loves to like lean into the uncomfortable. So when you're at his show and you know, he says something that's not popular and everybody's like, oh, and they're not sure whether to laugh or not, or whatever, he gets off on that. And to me, I absolutely love that. It's like making people uncomfortable and awkward because it's like, not not from a he's not malicious about it, but it's like it gets people thinking about stuff where it's like we're meant to do that. It's okay to laugh at stuff that that, you know, maybe you think, oh, is someone going to be offended about that? Comedy has a different set of rules than I think everything else, because as long as it's not coming from this hateful, malicious intent place, no, then it's funny, right? We're all meant to to come from this place of having a variety of people in your life. If you, if you're if your friend group looks and acts exactly like you do, you're missing something, right? I want friends that have all different beliefs. I want friends that look all different kinds of ways. I want to know the things, I want to understand, I want to share with you from my perspective. Everybody doesn't understand. You just have one POV. Your PO, you know, your point of view, your perspective, mine, very different. Mine comes from whatever my childhood is, all the filters and shit that came on, the work that I've done, any of that. Same from you. How fascinating that is that we could sit and laugh and tell stories and understand things about one another, about the different, you know, the different things that you've experienced or the ways that you've come up in this world and and what you've done with that, and saying we can learn from one another. It doesn't have to be like, oh, well, you're a Democrat and I'm a Republican, so we can't be friends. It's like, you know, that didn't used to be a thing. You used to be able to just break bread with whoever. Back in the neighborhoods, people would just get together and barbecue. And it wasn't like, oh, Bill's a Democrat, we can't fucking hang out with him. Or don't agree. Susie's a Republican, she's on the right, we can't talk to her. It was like, nah, Susie's a cool cookie lady, that's fun. Like, let's go and hang out with her, whatever.

SPEAKER_02

She's gay, but it's a mean bean cell. What the fuck? You know, what a barbecue, it's not a baptism of exactly.

SPEAKER_00

We don't have to all agree, you know. So it's like everybody stop taking shit so seriously.

SPEAKER_02

Wow, and everybody wants to find everybody that agrees with them too because I think of insecurity because they need that affirmation. Uh, I don't depend on the affirmation from anybody. I do like it. I think that's a human need.

SPEAKER_01

Sure.

SPEAKER_02

Um, but if I have to constantly look for it and search for it with the same person or the same group of people, uh, those aren't your people.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You got to cut those people loose.

SPEAKER_00

You know, here's what here's what I'm gonna suggest, because I I have I run across people all the time who aren't sure how to affect change, right? And I would say take a look at your social media time on your phone for the course of a week and dedicate just a portion of that, whatever portion you feel like you can commit to, 10% of that time, 25% of that time, whatever it is, and just do something in your community or something where you just schedule uh uh, you know, friends to come over after work and and watch a stand-up comedy, or come over and laugh, or go do something that's fun instead of sitting and being outraged by what's happening. Because I don't think the what you see on the social media or whatever is actually um in direct relation to what's happening in the world. Because you see all of these terrible things and it's like, have you guys been outside? Because if you look only at social media, you would be like, oh my God, the state of this world is terrible. But if you get outside and you have human interactions with other real live people in this realm, it's like, okay, it's not so bad. Yeah, there's still gonna be that kook that's on the side of the road that's you know on the megaphone talking about people shouldn't get abortions, piss off, right? Like, we and you know what? Good for him because he's he it's he's at least he's doing what he believes in. Exactly. His convictions put his money where his mouth is, right? And he's out there with his time, you know, doing what he thinks is right. And you know what? That guy doesn't hurt my feelings. Enjoy that. As long as you stay in your own lane, I don't care. I don't either, you know, but it's like spend a fraction of that time doing something real in your community of stuff that's important to you or bringing people together, and help somebody up. Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_02

Don't always look for what's in it for me, or what can I get out of this? What about just uplifting somebody? And I will share this with you. Um, comedians are like crazy, we have our own way of thinking, but we're also very kind-hearted people, and I think there's we get exploited a lot because of that. Um, but I think also I volunteered reading to kids, I don't have kids. I could say, look at teach your own rug rats how to read. I think reading is important, and I think it's great to read. I have this very distinct voice. So I said, what can I do with this? And I went and bred at an elementary school. I picked the poorest district and went and bred to kids. This was before the pandemic, and I was going through a really hard time financially, and I said, I can't sit here and think about all this shit day in, day out, day in, day out. I gotta get out of here. And I went and bred to kids. That was the most uplifting thing I have ever done in my life. And years later, the pandemic hit. Uh, that volunteer went bye-bye because you can't read to kids, and the kids loved it. I think I got more out of it than the kids did. That ended, and I had this huge void. And I thought, what is missing in my life? And one day it popped into my head, I'm not reading to those kids. And I went back to do it, and they don't they no longer have that program. And I thought, now what? Yeah, like do something for somebody. You're having a bad day, go out and see somebody who's has something you don't have, less than you have, and make them smile by saying good morning, or complimenting them, or those are nice shoes, or those are those just little things, you know, they don't cost you a dime. They don't. Just do that shit. Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It makes a huge difference. Think about, you know, when you buy somebody coffee at, you know, behind you at the in the drive-thru line or whatever. You've just put a smile on somebody else's face and then that ripples out, right? Kindness actually really does that. So it does being able to figure out how you can do that in your own, in your own everyday instead of just being consistent.

SPEAKER_02

Do it without expectation. 100%.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_02

Because if you expect it and it doesn't happen the way you want it to, you will be so disappointed. And and I made that mistake, and then I said, No, you're doing it for the wrong reason.

SPEAKER_00

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02

You have to do it and let it go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

No, no.

SPEAKER_02

And hope it goes out in the universe and multiplies. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

No doubt.

SPEAKER_02

That's what you have to do.

SPEAKER_00

No doubt. You know, the other thing that came up for me while you were talking about volunteering and reading for kids is I've found over the years that it has been made so difficult to be able to volunteer places because they don't have easy ways to be able to do that. And so you have all of these people with need and all of these people that don't know what to do. And then there's this huge disconnect. And so potentially, I'm just going to throw this out there to maybe whoever's listening that can do something about this, come up with a way to be able to connect one another, right? We need, we need that. Also, I don't know why this keeps coming into my head, but I have this thing where if people, if you look at a group of people and you're all the same thing, right? Say you have a group of white people that are all the same, group of black people that are all the same, group of gay people that are all the same, group of straight people, whatever. You should have a friend in all of those different demographics so that you can learn from one another. But like, where's the app that says, hey, I have a group of white people, I need a black friend, or I need a white friend, or I need a brown friend. Like, we need to be able to connect with one another in a way where it doesn't seem like it's super weird. I know this is coming from like this eight-year-old brain perspective of me of like, hey, it should just be real simple of like, I'm a white American woman is straight in America. Put me with some other people so that I can learn.

SPEAKER_02

And again, this is social media that has this impact. They they try to push people together that are like-minded.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Um, instead of saying uh branch out, and um, you know, and it's not just race, it it could be um uh a disability. Absolutely. You know, I like I said, I'm using this as a point of reference, but this gym I go to. Um it's it's for disabled people, basically it really is. And I mean I'm disabled in some way, I'm sure. And I said, um, I used to go there and I'd come home and cry. I would cry because I would see people with no limbs, whatever, whether it was drug-related, a car accident, a war, all of it, bad shit. And I used to come home and cry and feel so sorry for those people, but I kept pushing myself. There was a reason I had to go back. So I kept going back, and then I would like hold the door open, and they would like get pissed off and go, you don't have to hold the door open for me. Like they wanted to do their own thing. And then now I see these people, and they have autistic people and non-verbal people. Like these are the people I speak to at when I go when I go to that place, these are the people I speak with and they're caregivers, and the other people that are there complaining about what do you mean I only get an hour and my time's up and they're pissing and moaning? I don't talk to those people because they're worried about their time up, and this kid has no legs. I'm like, what universe are you living in to not know that that's what's important? How can you see what's not in front of you? So I just think people need to get a grip and people need to give more instead of take everything.

SPEAKER_00

You know, I I heard something recently where they were talking about if everybody in the room or whoever put their problems in a hat, would would you would you do that? Would you be willing to risk that of putting your problems in a hat and getting somebody else's problems? And I thought that's a really lovely way to uh visualize that and to also just be grateful for what it is that you have.

SPEAKER_02

Your problems aren't they're not that bad. They're not that bad. Right?

SPEAKER_00

And so it's like you don't have to look very far to realize, like, yeah, your neighbor Bill has it pretty rough, or your Aunt Jeannie, or like whatever that looks like. So so you can sit and compare and and bitch and moan and complain and all the things, or let's just get down to it and then.

SPEAKER_02

And what you just said, sometimes you don't know what other people are carrying. And if you welcome them in your tribe, and they open up to you, respect them, keep their confidentiality. A lot of people don't want to open up because people exploit them. They take information and they use it against that person. Like, that's the lowest form of a human being to me. Yeah, like just do just be kind. Yeah, do the bare minimum. That's all we're asking. Do the bare minimum. Don't do not, you know, like you don't have to not do anything. Do something. You know, I don't care if it's Christmas time and you put a quarter in the kettle at self, do something, make yourself feel better about doing something.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it does. It's so funny because it's like, where do you feel that in your body when you do a kind thing for someone, right? Give someone a compliment, hold the door, buy coffee, make eye contact, and then touch base with yourself and feel where you feel that. Because there's a reason it feels nice and warm in your chest when you do something good. Lean all the way into that. Right. Instead of, you know, Britney was on the show a couple of weeks ago and she brought up something. There was this silly movie that she used to watch when she was little, this cartoon, and it was called Monsters Inc. And they they powered the town with the screams of the children, you know, so the monsters would go scare the kids, and that scream is what they would have energy from. And the moral of the story is at the end of the movie, they figured out that they could also do the same thing with children's laughter. And so then the monsters were all making the kids laugh.

SPEAKER_01

And it's like isn't it fun?

SPEAKER_00

And then it's like the same amount of energy that it takes to do fear, hate, all the things can also feed the other side of that. Same energy that comes out of that. And isn't that such a more lovely thing? And I realize I sound like a kooky old lady when I talk like this. No, and also it's just like that's what makes my heart happy of being able to um, I don't know, try to affect change in this world. I think I'm crazy for trying to do what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_02

The more they stay the same. It's true, right? Yeah. So I think, you know, if there's a lesson to be learned, it's um life is precious. I took a bad fall March 13th, and uh I should not even be sitting here on this podcast because I should be six feet under. Yeah, that's what they told me when I walked out of the air. Yeah, and when I walked out of the air, I took a selfie because it was cloudy and it I love cloudy days, and it was like kind of like the universe came together, like I'm getting another chance. So I took a picture and I said, Thank God I'm alive, you know, and not from a religious standpoint, but boy, am I happy to be here and out of that of here. Yeah, but um, yeah, I should have been dead. So um sometimes you don't get that second chance. Yeah, so you better make good while you got it.

SPEAKER_00

This day is a gift. I'm gonna use mine accordingly.

SPEAKER_02

That's right.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Roberta, thank you so much for coming on this video. Thanks. It's always fun with you. Thank you for coming and sharing and and laughing. So this is our call to action to comedians. We need you guys. We need you guys more.

SPEAKER_02

If you have a talent, get out there and use it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, do. And and and and uh and find your tribe, you know, that will support you in doing that because it is savagely important that we're able to connect and be in community and laugh right now. Yes. And do your part, do your part. Stop, stop thinking that your part is you know, throwing your comments out into the void on the internet. No one gives a shit. Um, that's our time for today. If something hits, stirred, or lit a fire under you and you've got thoughts, questions, or a story you're ready to share, slide into our DMs or email us at ladies at let's get naked podcast.com. And if you believe in these conversations, help us keep them rolling. Follow, share, rate, review, do all the things. We will catch you next time. That's a wrap.