The Naked Truth: Vulnerability, Criticism, and Calling Out BS with Jason Lamar

A raw, no-prep hot seat with Jason Lamar that trades PR polish for real-time truth. Host Anne Karber pushes past performance culture to explore objective observation, listening to understand, and the discipline that transforms a life. From intent vs offense and the trap of labels to garage-gym grit and daily reading, this episode examines how perspective shapes reality—and why you should let the world outside your door outrank the one on your screen. It’s blunt, honest, and designed to make you go “hmm.”

What You'll Learn:

• Why unfiltered Q&A reveals courage over curation
• How “read the room” and a chess mindset improve thinking
• Intent vs offense in race talk and why curiosity matters
• The mental payoff of garage-gym discipline and consistency
• The small pivots that stacked Jason’s transformation
• A simple frame for handling online hate and criticism
• Books and ideas that sharpen perspective and agency
• Why turning down narratives and going outside matters
• Thoughts on public schools and parental responsibility

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Jason Lamar is a bold and unapologetic motivational content creator and mindset coach, known for his “Motivational Shit Talker” persona on Instagram where he pushes audiences to dig deeper and level up. As co‑host of the podcast Game Within a Game, he and Ransom confront tough truths, tackling topics like personal accountability, societal narratives, and the uncomfortable realities of growth. Across YouTube, he delivers life‑changing advice on self‑reflection, discipline, and transformation, encouraging listeners to take ownership and break free from limiting mindsets

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hey everyone, I'm Anne. Welcome to a very special episode of Let's Get Naked. No bullshit. This one could go sideways real fast because today we're doing something different. We brought somebody into the hot seat with no prep, no polished PR answers, no carefully crafted image control, no send me the questions ahead of time so my team can sanitize my humanity. Just real-time truth. And here's why I think this matters. We're living in a world where everybody wants attention, but almost nobody wants exposure. People want followers, people want influence, people want the blue check mark. People want millions of eyeballs watching them speak. But the second those eyeballs ask hard questions, everybody suddenly wants a lawyer, a publicist, a crisis manager, and a fucking escape hatch. That's not this. This edition is called the Naked Truth for a reason. Because if you're gonna build a platform, if you're gonna stand on a stage, if you're gonna speak loudly about what you believe, then you should also be willing to sit in the discomfort of being questioned about it, live, unfiltered, human to human. No armor, no script, no edits, no hiding. And honestly, that level of vulnerability is rare as hell now, especially online. Social media has turned people into brands before they've even figured out who they actually are. Everybody's performing, everybody's posturing, everybody's trying to look untouchable. But the people I'm interested in, the people I respect, are the ones willing to say, yeah, ask me. Even when it's uncomfortable, even when it's messy, even when they know they won't make everybody happy, especially them. That is courage. Not perfection, not popularity, not having a million followers screaming your name in your comment section. Courage is being willing to be fully seen. So today, Jason Lamar is stepping into that fire. Your questions, your curiosity, your pushback, your chaos, no net. And going forward, when the conditions are right, we're gonna keep doing this with other guests who are making noise, stirring conversations, challenging norms, building massive audiences, or flat out pissing people off. Because whether you agree with somebody or not, there's something powerful about watching what happens when people stop hiding behind edited versions of themselves. That's where the truth lives. So buckle up. Things are about to get naked. And if there's somebody you want to see in the hot seat next, drop their name. Big following, controversial, interesting, unfiltered, we're not here for safe and polished. Let's get into it. Jason, welcome to the show. Appreciate you coming and being willing to answer all of the questions that the folks in your comment section and the folks that were willing to DM the show have sent. Uh so for anyone who has not seen an episode, a previous episode with Jason, Jason is a motivational shit talker. And I will say that I personally love his brand of um what you maybe you give a few words about what your brand is so that you can kind of describe that for people that maybe aren't familiar with who you are.

SPEAKER_05 3:36

You know, I'm not really big on defining and putting labels on things, but if I had to, I would say I make objective observations about the world.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:49

What I do.

SPEAKER_00 3:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:51

Resonates with some people, some people get upset about it, but Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:54

I think the people that maybe get as upset about it are the folks that are really um tied down to their version of reality, and they have a hard time listening to an objective person kind of spew truth.

SPEAKER_05 4:07

Yeah, and see, this is one of the one of the reasons I have a problem with the with the labels, because labels kind of serve as a box to things. And some people get so comfortable inside of their box, and it comes to a point where they would rather remain lost than receive directions because they don't want to admit that they don't know their way.

SPEAKER_00 4:24

Yeah. That's that's excellent. Um, have you always been a place person that listens? This is not even on the question list, this is just now I'm curious. Have you always been the person that listens to understand rather than listens to defend? Because I was talking with someone recently and it was like, I think that's the biggest part of where we are in society is that as soon as someone else starts uh speaking, other people that are listening start defending. They're not actually listening to understand, they're just listening to come up with whatever their defense is. Have you always been the person that listens, or like what would you say about that for yourself?

SPEAKER_05 4:55

I would say as a whole, yeah. I I've I always consider myself to be, as I said before, an observer. I watch, I'm a read the room kind of guy before I just dive into things and I like to see what's going on. I think last episode we spoke about this, but I played, I've been playing chess since I was a child. And one thing that you learn in chess is what's most important is to figure out not only what's going on, but why it's going on. So if you're sitting there looking for what uh uh move someone else is going to make just because you want to make your own move, you're gonna wind up losing. So you you kind of learn to figure out what is what is taking place around me. What is your perspective? Why do you think this? What what are you saying? What are you trying to do? And again, I do agree that uh most people do not do that, and that is a big part of why the world is what it is today, is everyone wants to defend what it is that they are doing or prove themselves to be right rather than figure out what is right.

SPEAKER_00 5:49

Yeah, yeah. The the test thing is really excellent. I think that that's um something that I can read from just the content that you put out as well, that that's where you're coming from, also during our conversations, just being able to understand that because it is, you should everyone should be curious about why is it that they want you to see this now? Or why is it that um, you know, whatever it is that's going out in the world right now that they're putting out there, it's all bullshit. Just so everyone knows it's all bullshit, but start asking the questions because once you can kind of remove yourself, you know, our last episode was all about the circus and what's in the circus tent, you know, it's the politics and the media and like all of this bullshit that gets everybody divided and twisted up. And everyone's, you know, all of these people are profiting on that, the big pharmaceuts and all of the things. But when you're able to step outside of that to look at things objectively, whatever it is, whether it's something that you agree with or something you don't agree with, I just think there's power in that. Um and I and I enjoy watching you as you navigate that. So huge fan, huge fan. Um, okay. So here's we're just gonna start getting into the questions now. Uh, first one from various people. How old are you?

SPEAKER_05 6:53

I am 38.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 6:56

Right? Yes, 38.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

I'm the exact I'm I have a problem with that as well. Um, may I may I ask a question that uh is just on my mind as an eight-year-old child. Uh as a white person, am I able to say black don't crack?

SPEAKER_05 7:11

I don't I don't care. I don't see it.

SPEAKER_00 7:15

Do most people care? Because do most black people care? Because I come from a perspective of that's a fucking compliment to me. That I can't tell whether a black dude is 40 or 90. Same thing with black women. Like I have friends that I'll learn how old they are. And you know, I have a girlfriend who told me she recently she was 55. I was like, shut the front door. You're no more than like 36, maybe, right? So, but I don't want that to be offensive.

SPEAKER_05 7:34

That should be a compliment, but I don't know what I'm dealing with out in in the There are some people who have made any degree of commentary on a race that isn't your own into something offensive.

SPEAKER_00 7:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 7:45

And I don't agree with it as a whole. I know a lot of people who don't agree with it as a whole. This is a mild side thing. But I was a kid, I would watch uh kung fu movies and all of that. And for the very the longest time in my life, I just assumed all Asian people knew kung fu. Now, is that racist in some capacity stereotypey? Probably. Is it offensive though? I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00 8:05

Right. That's that I think that that's a big piece of where we are in society right now is is there malice and is there intent in the things that people say? Because I come from this curious perspective where if as a white person I don't ask the questions, then I don't fucking know. And that's not really an appropriate, like Google, hey, can I say this to black people? Also, you're not the authority, but being able to just get your, you know, your POV as a black man in America, that's excellent as well. And I think it does come down to what is the intent for something. Because yeah, because I think, you know, in I've never said that, I guess. I've never said that to a black person because I just never knew if that's acceptable to say or not. But I just I feel that to my core because you guys age so beautifully.

SPEAKER_05 8:47

A, thank you. Yes. And B, I think I I fully agree with what you're saying about intent. And I think I think several years ago they came up with this whole little microaggression thing where everything that can possibly be interpreted as offensive should be taken as offensive. But I believe that people's intent in things is very, very relevant. It's like maybe someone says something about the texture of your hair. It's like, I don't mean it's offensively. I'm curious, why can't I ask? Right. And not only that, but when you make certain things taboo, then you leave it up to other people to draw their own conclusions. And this is where people come up with all of this wrong stuff because it's you're not allowed to talk about it because you're not the appropriate person to do so.

SPEAKER_00 9:25

It puts people into this like afraid to say anything. I think that's really dangerous, regardless of whether it's race or something else entirely. Again, as long as the intent isn't there to be an asshole, then I just I just I don't agree with all of that. Absolutely. Uh, next one from various people as well was what kind of music do you listen to?

SPEAKER_05 9:43

Oh, so as of late, I have not been listening to as much music as I used to, but by and large, I listen to rap, hip-hop music uh at this moment in life, specifically ransom, Larry June, Kevin Gates. Really it does who I live to right now.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Okay, okay. All right. Um, Beth N61 wants to know what do you do in your spare time? And just so you know, we're serving up softballs right down the middle to get you warmed up.

SPEAKER_05 10:12

So I understand the premise behind this question, but I disagree with the world view that came up with it in the sense that it kind of comes from the position of I have certain things that I have to do and then certain things that I want to do. But I I built my life in such a way that I want to do all of the things that I do. So I don't have spare time per se. I don't really classify things as work and fun. I enjoy and don't enjoy everything I do to a very, very similar degree. Like we're doing this right now. Technically, this is work, but I also very much enjoy that I'm sitting here doing this. There's my book right there. I wrote the book. That was work, but I very much enjoyed doing it. I make videos, I enjoy doing that. I work out to some degree, I enjoy doing that. Like whatever it is that I do, I do it because I enjoy doing it and it furthers my life.

SPEAKER_00 10:59

It's funny that you say that because I have this thing where I got to this place a couple of years ago where every day had the same value. Because I agree with you. I don't think there is spare something. It's like things are either a priority or they're not. I don't treat things like it's work or it's not. It doesn't mean that I'm not working. I work probably more than I do what people will call recreational stuff, but I enjoy the hell out of it. And so it doesn't really feel like work. And I think that that's really kind of like pro-level shit in this life is you if you can get to where a Sunday has the same value as a Tuesday, if you can get to where 10 o'clock on a Wednesday is also the same value as eight o'clock, you know, in the evening on a on a Thursday or whatever that looks like. And I believe that I'm living my life that same way. And I love that you said that because I think that that's really savagely important.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

Yeah, I mean that's that's the goal, figure out how to make that happen. Uh, Tom Page wants to know what do you do with your belly button lint? I know.

SPEAKER_05 11:55

I don't really know how to respond to that.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

I don't even think, yeah, I don't think that needs a response. I just didn't know.

SPEAKER_05 12:00

I don't know that I have belly button lint, quite honestly.

SPEAKER_00 12:03

I love it. Okay, uh, Gray T Ph D wants to know, Jason, what's up with the nose ring? You might know that Jason may know who these guys are.

SPEAKER_05 12:13

Um so one time I wanted to get my nose pierced, then I went and got my nose pierced. Now it's a ring in it. I don't have a deep answer.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

Okay, what what age were you? You said you're 38 now. How old were you when you got it?

SPEAKER_05 12:25

Uh goodness. Uh 30 something. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I just wanted to do it, so I did it. Well, I could do it while I was younger, but I was like, maybe I can't do this because of work-related stuff and all of that, whatnot. Then I got to a point where I'm like, you know what? I don't care. I'm gonna do it and I'm gonna make things work as I make them work.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Yeah, I like that. So I'm gonna I'm gonna jump in on that one too and throw out my tattoo question because I have I have several tattoos as well. And I uh I people don't see me coming, right? Obviously, they see you coming because you're you can see yours. Mine, you don't see me coming, but I have down both sides, you know, I have a lot of tattoos. You just painful spots of the painful spots, you know? So um, so I'm that girl, you know, who's like can present a certain way, and then you know, people see the other side of it.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

It's like, oh love that.

SPEAKER_00 13:14

Um, and so that's fun. But like, where when did your tattoos adventure start? Like, how old were you when you got your first one? How many do you have? Just tell me more about your tattoos because I love tats.

SPEAKER_05 13:23

15 when I got my first tattoo.

SPEAKER_00 13:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 13:27

I don't know how many that I have, and honestly, they're set up in such a way that I couldn't really count it as because like from this hand all the way over to this side and my my back and this side all connect. So I don't know, technically that's one tattoo. So if I was to say that I have like 12, it sounds crazy. Um, so I don't know how many that I have. I started getting tattoos when I was 15, and that's just because people that I was around at the time had tattoos, and I was like, oh, that's cool that I want to be cool too. So I started getting tattoos and went from there. So a lot of my arms is cover-ups that I got from when I was living my life in a very different way. Yeah. And yeah, so I have I have a range of stuff. The most meaningful ones to me are probably on my legs, which are covered most of the time, but it's just past family childhood stuff, whatever the case may be.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

Yeah. Do you what do you associate? Like, is there a pain component of that for you? Where I know a lot of people like look at that from the pain of a tattoo and having that be a whole release and and whatever. Just do you tie anything in or not?

SPEAKER_05 14:30

No, I don't, I don't like getting tattoos, they hurt.

SPEAKER_00 14:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 14:32

Like some people are like, yeah, I earned this. I'm like, nah, it hurts. It's such a bullshit.

SPEAKER_00 14:39

Okay, I like that. Okay. Uh Dana Ippolito wants to know, do you have a girlfriend?

SPEAKER_05 14:46

I had a feeling that was gonna be a question. No, I do not.

SPEAKER_00 14:48

Okay. Uh her follow-up question.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

Uh, what this is so much fun.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

Uh you don't have to answer this one either, but I do just want to say it. Uh, what do you look like completely naked? I'm gonna say tat it up.

unknown 15:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

Fair enough, right?

SPEAKER_05 15:03

I have tattoos and muscles.

SPEAKER_00 15:04

I love it. Well, and we see that on your on your post too, right? You can't sit there and holler to everybody to get in the gym, get in the gym, get in the gym, and then do the gym as well. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 15:13

Gotta get them in the garage, first thing I do every day.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

Do you work out only at the house or do you go out other places to work out too?

SPEAKER_05 15:19

So I have, I think I have two gym memberships. And I have my garage. The garage is where I mostly work out. It's what I prefer. Honestly, I like my solitude and just doing whatever I want and not having to wait for anything or anything like that. I'm also very simple. So I'm not like super complex, you know, drop set mechanical, whatever bodybuilder guy. I just like to go in straightforward, get it done. Yeah. And I like that it's right there. Yeah. And it's very close. It makes it very hard for me to. So I have a uh, so I have half of my garage is set up over here, and then the other half is like a corner thing. But if I was to get in my car and not go to the gym, I have to get in my car and look at that gym every single time I leave the house. Like, oh, you bitch. So I like that as well.

SPEAKER_00 16:05

I love it. You've um again, you you're you have a presence in our house because you my husband appreciates your level of bitch slap. And uh, so I asked him today, I was like, so you know, what what's our plan for after work? Whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah. We're supposed to be, you know, getting together with somebody. And he goes, Well, I'm gonna go get off of work and I'm gonna go to the gyms because I don't want to be a bitch, uh, and then I'll be ready. So I just yeah, I I think that that's excellent. And I think it's also really excellent because that's the example that we've set for our kids. So all three of our kids understand how important that is to get into the gym.

SPEAKER_02 16:37

So important.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

Um more for your mental than anything else, right? Yes, it's great that you look a certain type of way, but I think people don't understand that the biggest benefits that you get from going to the gym happen, you know, in between your ears, not necessarily anywhere else.

SPEAKER_05 16:50

That for me was the first thing in my life that showed me that I can take something that I had in my mind and bring it into reality if I showed up and did it consistently.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

Yeah. Have you always been big into you know, fitness and gym stuff? Okay, tell so tell me about that. That's a that's a good follow-up question.

SPEAKER_05 17:07

So I didn't play any real sports when I was a kid. I did, I did do karate. I got like a brown belt, I think. So that was pretty cool. But other than that, I didn't do any real sports. I was not like super active. I didn't run around in PE or anything like that. I started working out when I was 21 years old. I wanna say, yeah, I was working out when I was 21 years old.

SPEAKER_02 17:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 17:31

And I would always like B E T, MTV Jams and all that stuff was big when I was young. So you see the music videos and all that, whatnot. So I watched like 50 Cent and Lil Wayne and everything like that. And I'll watch the the Kung Fu movies, like I was saying, Bruce Lee. I watched, I like Fight Club, uh, Tyler Durton and everything. I see all these people, it's like, man, I always really wanted to look like that. And I would be so mad, I was like, why do these people get to look like this and I don't get to look like this? And at some point in life, I learned, oh, they look like this because they work out. So I started working out. And then it took me a very, very long time to figure out what I was doing. I worked out for a solid two, three years before I even looked like I lifted a weight.

SPEAKER_02 18:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 18:06

But I was just determined that if I keep doing this, they did this, they look like this. If I keep doing it, eventually I'll look like that too. And it paid off. And that's what I was saying, kind of showed me that, oh, there's other things that I could do this with.

SPEAKER_00 18:18

Yeah. I I think folks that maybe don't work out or don't have a fitness program and they kind of make rules up for themselves where if they can't do XYZ, then they just kind of fall off the wagon a little bit. And it's like there's no rules associated with that. You said two or three years it kind of took, you have to have traction. You know, for me, it's like, okay, I have certain tips and tricks and stuff that I do to stay consistent with what it is that I'm doing. And if I feel like that's not working, then I change that. You know, it's like no one said you have to pick a way and then go that route. It's like you should always be looking to have 1% better, 1% smoother, 1%. How can I be doing this with, you know, better efficiency?

SPEAKER_05 18:51

Yeah, and I think this is this is a bit unrelated to the rest of the state.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

No, no, one all over the place.

SPEAKER_05 18:56

I think that one of the biggest problems that we have today is that, especially in relation to fitness and everything, you'll have you'll see a lot of people talking like their way is the way to do it. Like veganism is the answer, or carnivore is the answer, or bodybuilding or powerlifting, or this specific type of workout. Or at the end of the day, that's why you have to figure out what do you want and what is important to you. And there's a way that you could absolutely make it work. Because what the the real takeaway from this should be there are some people who do who work out every day and in great shape. There are some people who work out two times a week and are in great shape. There are some people who eat nothing but broccoli. Well, probably not that, but and there are some people who eat nothing but meat, and they both look great. So it that the takeaway from that should be you could find something that works for you. So stop listening to what everyone else is talking about with all this shit. Don't let other people define your goals.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

I think people listen to other people in general just too much. Absolutely. Like, like get in, you know, go in perspective. Are you are you um are are you a person that um is more you know, extroverted or introverted? Do you like your alone time more or go out more?

SPEAKER_05 19:54

Again, just to raise it I don't I don't really identify as either of the two, but I do I stick to myself more. I spend a lot of time in my thoughts. But when necessary, I can go outside and talk to people. But this that's not my that's not my that's not your damn. That's not my thing. No, I prefer to be to my own and to focus be able to focus on stuff myself.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

Yeah. I used to be very much like out and about and always felt like I needed to be around people, and I think that was because I was avoiding myself.

SPEAKER_05 20:23

I asked why most people wind up doing that. I think so too.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

It's like the distraction, right? And I always just felt like, oh no, I like to be, you know, and I always told myself that. And I think it's I I I believed that, I really did. Uh, and then I figured out um who I was, and I prefer my own company over anyone else's every day of the week. And I will go out because I understand that that's you know important as well. Um, but yeah, I enjoy my own company way more than anyone else's.

SPEAKER_05 20:48

That's it, that's how it should be. Yeah, you should you should be happiest with yourself. And other people just add to that.

SPEAKER_00 20:53

Agreed, agreed. That's a great way to say that. Um, one of the things I saw, I'm gonna jump around a little bit. One of the things that I saw recently is that you're at an event somewhere locally where people can come out and meet you. Will you say more about that? Do you mind?

SPEAKER_05 21:08

Yeah, so it's uh Fort Worth, Dallas, Fort Worth. It is the 22nd of May. So it's uh in all honesty, I agreed to go to the event because I was invited. I don't have a great deal of details, but I'm gonna go there. I'm gonna see what it is. There's some cool piece of people that I know they're gonna be there as well. We're gonna we're gonna see how it goes is uh as it as it unfolds.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

Okay. Is that that's not your normal vibe to go do that or what you've done traditionally?

SPEAKER_05 21:34

Or it's my first time I've been invited to a thing like that. So I was like, yeah, let's let's do it.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

Love it. I same, like I think leaning into things that are like, okay, maybe that's not my norm. Let's go fucking check it out. Why not? Okay. Uh okay, Gecko 256078 wants to know. I know. You want to know some of these handles? Like, was the Gecko 256077 taken? Or uh okay, where did you grow up and what did your parents do for a living? And some of this stuff maybe.

SPEAKER_05 22:00

We've covered in other episodes, but uh I grew I'm from Altadina, California. I moved to Charlotte when I was 18. My dad was always in sales, and my mother she did a couple part-time jobs, but she never had anything that could be like this is what my mother did for the stayed at home a lot.

SPEAKER_00 22:17

Okay. And siblings, you said you have a sister.

SPEAKER_05 22:19

I have a sister, yeah. Older, younger?

SPEAKER_00 22:21

Okay, excellent. All right. Lisa versus gravity wants to know. Did you have I love it? Fucking shout out to Lisa.

SPEAKER_05 22:30

Oh, I know how you came up with that name. Is this like a conspiracy theory type thing? Or like, are you plumsy?

SPEAKER_01 22:35

Or just getting old. Yeah, literally, as women, that stuff just I feel like my face is melting off of my face. That's also okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

I don't give a fuck. Uh okay, so she says, Did you have a strong father presence in your home growing up?

SPEAKER_05 22:49

Oh, that's a good question. So my dad actually, I did not have a very good relationship with my dad until I was maybe 24, 25 years old. And it's because so when I say he wasn't around, it sounds away. Not he, so he wasn't around very much. Like for the until I was like 15, 16 years old, I saw my dad like once every three weeks, but that's because he was off working. So like he worked in Anaheim and he would leave the house at like 5 a.m. or something like that to get to work on time because it's in California traffic crazy and everything like that. And then he would be, so he'd be gone before I wake up, and then he would be back after I went to bed. And he traveled a lot for work and different work trips and whatnot. So like every every three weeks or something like that, I would see him. But he was also, but then when he was around, he was like very disciplinarian. So I took issue with how dare you tell me what to do, and I don't even see you. And then we had obviously we had a big, bigger issue with that as I was a teenager and I was running around with stupid people doing stupid stuff, and he didn't like it. But I learned a lot of very good life lessons from my dad that I did not appreciate in my youth.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Yeah. That's a that's a great way to say that too, because I think I had very similar where it was like, you don't listen to them so much. It's like, oh, get get the fuck out of here, old man, right? You don't know what you're talking about. And then you look back and it's like, ah, yes, that was a good one. Oh, yes, that was a good one, you know. Did you have, um, did you have a strong male presence in your life when he wasn't there, whether it be an uncle or a friend or somebody else that kind of had a big influence on you?

SPEAKER_05 24:27

So I hung around the older kids in the neighborhood, which was a big influence, yes, a good influence, no. Yeah, fair, fair enough.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

Okay. Uh okay, MAGA Mama 2.0 wants to know have you always been the way you are now? Or at one time did you have some of the habits that you condemn, like overeating, not exercising, drinking, or using drugs? Great question.

SPEAKER_05 24:52

Oh, yes, I did have a lot of the habits that I am opposed to. I used to, I used to not work out, I used to not actually, we talked about that. Um, I used to eat a lot of garbage foods. I used to smoke heavily weed and black and mild. I've I've never been too much of a drinker, but on the occasions that I drank, I drank to get drunk. Um, I used to be a big procrastinator. I used to be very lazy, I used to make a lot of excuses. I used to do a lot of the things that I talk about, which is how I came to the point of being able to point such things out.

SPEAKER_00 25:29

Yeah. I think that that's the biggest part of it, right? When you're the one that's been, you know, in the trenches and has have touched all the burners on the stove. I think it makes you relatable and I think it gives you the credit to be able to say that shit. And and either people are for it or not. And if they're, you know, you're not for them, change the fucking channel. Again, I don't understand why people get so worked up about it. If Jason's not for you, then just go ahead and find something that is. It's like you guys realize you don't have to step in dog shit, right? Like people that get offended on social media, I don't fucking get it.

SPEAKER_05 25:55

It's don't watch this. Like I see videos or something that I don't like and I just don't watch it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 26:01

I don't stop what I'm doing and make a fucking comment about how I don't agree with it.

SPEAKER_05 26:04

You guys know we're not all supposed to agree on everything, right? Like everyone doesn't need to like everything. That's life.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

I feel like for the most part, everyone's still living in high school, and it's like, what are we doing? You guys, you know we're supposed to grow and go on to do amazing things, whatever that looks like for you, do the shit that sparks you. Um back to MAGA Mama's question. So what what was the was there something that happened that kind of made you um pivot? You know, you talk about okay, I started working out at 21. Was there something that happened, or an epiphany, or a wake-up call, or what was it that made you say, like, I'm tired of procrastinating and and not doing the things or getting high all day, or like whatever that looks like, what happened?

SPEAKER_05 26:43

So this was, I know I I see a lot of things when people talk about I had this moment, this big thing took place and everything changed. That has never been the case for me. I had several small little moments along the way that I'm like, oh, I need to stop doing this, I need to stop doing this. Like I had, I was 22 years old, and this was I was in Charlotte at the time, and I had uh his friends, I'm not gonna say nobody's names, but and he had two brothers. And his oldest brother was always we we respected him because of worldviews at the time, but he was always up to no good. He was in and out of jail and all of this whatnot. I remember one time he and I were having a conversation, and he said, he told me that he him, me and him were the same. And that was the first time I ever sat there and took a look at it. I was like, Well, I don't want to be like that. This is not what it is that I want to do. Maybe I need to make some changes. And that's when I started getting away from certain people in my life. That's also when I around the time that I stopped smoking. And then I just I started focusing on, you know, advancing and things. So it's several small little moments like that that kind of just got pieced together to the point of where it is that I am now. And I'm still, I still learn things every single day. I still pivot things all over the time.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

Yeah. I think that that's if if you're in the right mindset, that that's a lifelong thing. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 28:03

You should be growing for the entirety of your life.

SPEAKER_00 28:05

Every time, like people that just like get to a place and go, okay, here's where I am now. And then they just run that day on repeat. I think you guys realize that's not how it's supposed to be. I don't know who who prescribed that or who you know said that that was what it's supposed to be. That's not it at all.

SPEAKER_05 28:18

Yeah, there's a lot of things. Like if you when you start growing, like people will sit there and tell you that like you've changed and everything, like this is an instant. But the real thing is you have it. Yeah, and that's what the problem is. Absolutely, I've changed. That was the goal, my friend. Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

Right. We're all supposed to. And and maybe we change out of each other's orbits, and that's okay. It is what it is. But yeah, I mean, you lose people when you change. And also, I think we're supposed to.

SPEAKER_05 28:40

Yeah. Every everyone's not supposed to be in your life for all periods of time. Like some people serve certain purposes. I'm sure that will sound away to people, but it is what it is. You take what you can from everybody, you give what you can to everybody, and at a certain point that will end. Then you move on.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

And just keep it, keep it moving, right? Keep it moving. Uh Bubba Bang Timmy says, ask him about throwing water balloons in El Monte before he got his life together. So thank you, Bubba Bang Tim. Did I say Timmy right? I know this is so great. Okay. Obviously, Jason knows what this question is. I know who that is.

SPEAKER_05 29:13

Yeah, we grew up together.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

Um this is great. Thank you for sending this question in.

SPEAKER_05 29:20

We would do, okay. This was when I was in high school. We would be driving around late at night in vehicles that we may or may not supposedly supposed to have been driving. And we would be up to no good. Some of them, some of it's ill-advised, some of it's I will not speak about here. Some of it is funnier, such as this one. And it was up in El Monte. There was a street where it was a bunch, it was several prostitutes, it was a bunch of prostitutes everywhere that were dudes, that were women, whatever trans, whatever prostitutes. At one point in time, it was me and him, it was a dude named Chop. And one of us had thought, you know what, we we had, I don't know how we happened to get water balloons, but we were like, let's go throw them at the at the at the dude prostitutes up at El Monte in the middle of the night. So that's what we did.

SPEAKER_00 30:10

I love it. I love it. I respect the honesty. Let's be real. Life doesn't come with a manual, but it does come with chaos. I wrote this book because I got tired of drowning and everyone else's noise and needed a way to fix my own shit. This isn't some sugar-coated self-help nonsense. It's honest. If you're ready to stop, take back your energy and get unapologetically. This book is your playbook. You can pick up your copy of the Life Hack Playbook on Amazon or on our podcast website, let's get nakedpodcast.com. Um, speaking of dudes that are prostitutes, um, I know in your clips you use the word transformers, and I personally um that is lovely to me as well. Fucking, you know, I everybody's not gonna be happy. I don't fucking sell ice cream. That's all right. Uh are we okay to say that?

SPEAKER_05 31:15

Yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

Okay, good. Just checking.

SPEAKER_05 31:17

Whatever.

SPEAKER_00 31:18

If Jason says it's good, I'm here for it. I am too. So, okay, uh, trigonometry 101 says, How did you become so articulate in dismantling society's collective mindset?

SPEAKER_05 31:31

Oh, okay. So the articulate thing is when I was I don't know, early 20s. Maybe like 24, 25, 26. I was in my 20s. Yeah. I I at some point realized that I needed to, like, I used to speak very a lot of slang and slurs and all of that, not slurs like racial slurs, like slurry stuff. Like I grew up in California in the South, so I had like a mixture of a West Coast and Southern accent thing going on. It was not very professional, it was not very presentable, it was very whatever it is that you like to call it. So I realized that that was a thing that I was going to need to work on if I want to further myself in life. So I took a, I took a very focused approach to doing that. And for several years, I sounded like an idiot. And people uh point out all the time, like you sound like a robot, or people would ask me stuff. I sit there for like a whole entire minute before I think of anything because of, how do I want to say this? And what words do I want to use? I got a word of the day calendar and I would just plug random big words into sentences. But it was a it was a very long process. And my takeaway lesson from that, because I like to put lessons into things, is that if you're not willing to look stupid, you are never going to grow in life. So I sounded like an idiot before I sound like I sound like now. And now people compliment me on the way that I speak. It took me speaking like an idiot. And then the the societies thing is we were talking, I don't know if we were talking about this off camera in the beginning, but I've I've always kind of just been an observer and I just look at things and I say, hey, this is what I think, this is what this looks like to me.

SPEAKER_00 33:00

Yeah. I I think the um the way that you said that is fucking lovely. You know, the the I think so many people are so scared to look cringe, you know. I I do this show and I the old version of Anne would never do this. You know, I I share all of the things, right? I joke with my people about like I'm showing everyone the inside of my asshole because that's what it feels like when you lead with vulnerability and say, like, let me tell you all the fucked up things that happened in my past. And also um, I feel compelled to do that because I see the reaction and I get feedback on the reaction that people have, other women, specifically about sexual trauma, about other things, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I I do things that um make me cringe. And I think I'm doing it so that when my nieces and my daughters and other women that are looking can say, she can do it, I can do it, right? Because we are meant to be cringy, and I'm not a child anymore. So I, you know.

SPEAKER_05 33:56

See, this is this is the this goes to what you were saying about everyone is stuck in high school. Like when you're teenagers, yeah, you want to run around and look cool and it's it's super embarrassing that you fell down or whatever the case may be. But as a whole, once you grow up, you realize this is life. People fall, people don't know what it is that they're doing. Sometimes your outfit is gonna suck. Sometimes you're gonna get a bad haircut, you make terrible videos, you're gonna do businesses that will fail. That's that's part of the process of everything.

SPEAKER_02 34:21

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 34:21

And also the thing is the only people who will sit there and call you cringy or I don't like that word, cringy, are people who have never done anything themselves because they don't understand that that is a part of the process.

SPEAKER_00 34:32

Yeah. Yeah. I I step up to the plate and swing for the fence every fucking time. I think it's out, it works out.

SPEAKER_05 34:38

If it doesn't, it doesn't.

SPEAKER_00 34:39

Absolutely. And failure is just feedback. And so it's like, you know, I I want to be able to set that example for other people that they realize, hey, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna mess up. I'm I'm trying to level up the show by reading from a teleprompter or if I'm doing this or from doing that. And it's like, is it gonna look perfect every time? Not a chance. And also, who cares? Right? Because again, I'm not in high school. This isn't pure pressure. I I fall down, I do all of the things. So yeah, so I I love that too. Um, okay, local wildlife says, when did you start to see the light? See the light. You can take that however you want to.

SPEAKER_05 35:11

Yeah, I don't know what we're considering that. So I'm just out okay, we'll go with in relation to what it is that we were talking about. So until 2020, I paid zero attention to the outside world, the world outside of myself. Like in politics, I knew who the president was. Beyond that, I did not know anything about that. I would go about life and periodically I knew that there was still a war going on because I would go to Walgreens or something and they would ask me, do you want to donate to the troops? I was like, you know, that still happened. Cool. Who did? So, but beyond that, I had no idea of what was going on in the world at all. And looking back on it, none of it actually affected me whatsoever. I lived my day-to-day life unbothered and unaffected by everything going on outside. So then 2020 happened and they had their whole entire COVID thing. And that was the first time that I watched anything on the news, watched any degree of politics. And at first I was like, oh no, a virus. Oh, that's so terrible. But then I looked and I listened to the things that they were saying, and I'm like, I don't know that this makes a lot of sense to me. And I would see the because it was wrapped in with the politics, and I would listen to what they were saying, I'd be like, I don't know that that makes sense either. And then I kind of just so that that kind of was it then is the beginning of 2020, is the first time I started looking at things. And because I think because I came into it objective with zero biases towards anything, that I was able to just kind of, I don't know, this doesn't really add up to me.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

All right. You know, it's so funny that you say that because I've been very much the same. Like I've been unplugged from stuff for a long, long time. And I prefer it that way, and I don't give a fuck what other people think about that. Like I I intentionally put my head in the sand when it comes to certain things because it's like it doesn't, there's no value associated with it. We're still talking about the same bullshit that we've been talking about for go, go, go, cycle, cycle, cycle, same bullshit, same bullshit, same bullshit. But I had a similar thing in COVID where uh, you know, I had the news on and I'm watching as it's happening, and I'm like, they are fear-mongering the fuck out of everyone. And also, it just makes you feel terrible. So when you talk to people who constantly have the news on or constantly whatever, I'm like, do you not like quality of life? Or like, what why are you doing that? Why would you do that? Because what you consume is like that's important shit, and you just put garbage into your mind, like, of course it's gonna come out good.

SPEAKER_05 37:36

That's why I've stopped listening to a lot of music, quite honestly, because it's a lot of garbage is polluting my brain. Yeah. But I agree exactly with what it is that you said, and then and then a large part of it is like I've been outside. I've been, I've I've been outside. I see what's happening, and it doesn't look like this TV here. So something's not adding up. I mean, I can't be the only one who's in a completely unique area unaffected by what's happening on the TV.

SPEAKER_00 37:58

Right. No, I agree with you, and I encourage people to get outside all the time because I think that that's the biggest piece of what's dividing us. Like show me what that's happening, right? Show me in in real life where some of this shit is that's happening. And it's just that's that's the thing, and then people will do the whole like, oh, and then they have excuses about whatever.

SPEAKER_05 38:14

I don't I don't care about that. Yeah, show me.

SPEAKER_00 38:16

Yeah, go outside in the real world. Go in the wild. Go in the wild and tell me what's going on.

SPEAKER_05 38:20

Go reference an article. Go take your phone and make a video and send it to me. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 38:26

Okay. Uh John Gresco says, How much influence did Napoleon Hill have on you? Do you know who Napoleon Hill was? Yeah, I didn't I didn't know who he was. I had to Google him this morning.

SPEAKER_05 38:37

Think and Grow Rich, I read, and uh Outwitting the Devil, I read. They're two very different books that I both loved. Uh I don't know how to quantify how much of an influence he had on me. So what I liked about so Outwitting the Devil, it goes, if if you haven't read that, you should absolutely should be outwitting the devil.

SPEAKER_01 38:56

Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 38:56

But he goes and points out about stuff about the church and the school and the medical system and how all of this stuff is designed to keep everybody kind of lost and adrift. And he wrote this in like 1922 or something like that. I can't wait to read it now. It is a lovely book. Okay. And some of it is kind of thoughts that I've always had in general, but then he just put it into words and added on to it. I was like, 'cause a lot of the times it's it's things like that. It's like I've always thought this that you see somebody else say it, it's like I knew I wasn't crazy.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 39:25

And then uh Think and Grow Rich is kind of a manifestation mindset type book, which I which I really enjoyed.

SPEAKER_00 39:30

Yeah. So I I think when people give you words for things that you've thought, it feels like a gift to me, right? Like my husband and I are in the trenches all the time about different things. And when he tells me something where I didn't have words to it, but it's something that I felt, I'm like, oh fuck yeah, I'd rather have that than flowers all day. Yeah, absolutely. Um, okay, this question is from me. Okay. Uh, do you read a lot and what's your favorite book or author?

SPEAKER_05 39:52

Yes, I read a lot. I mean, probably I probably read a lot in relation to people who read a lot, but I read every day.

SPEAKER_02 39:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 39:59

My, I want to be biased and say my favorite book is my book sitting right here. Um this is also a lovely book right here that's the yearbook on the camera. My favorite. I don't know what my favorite book is, but there's this book called The Slight Edge. And that is kind of what got me going more so in the direction that I am currently. So I always like to give a lot of credit to that book.

SPEAKER_02 40:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:25

Um, favorite authors, I don't know. I'm not really, it's probably terrible because I wrote a book. I feel like I should pay attention to who wrote a book. I go with what the book is. Sure. I like a lot of philosophy books. I like, I'm not really big on like specifically self-help type books. I like things, I like books that will give me a new perspective on things, is what I like. What genre that happens to be, it doesn't matter. It could be a fictional story that serves that sort of purpose. It could be straightforward philosophy, it could be an informational book, whatever the whatever the case may be. I think it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 40:55

It could be the DMV pamphlet. I don't give a fuck. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 40:57

If it will expand my mind and improve in my worldview, I'm I'm here for it.

SPEAKER_00 41:02

Yeah, I I feel the exact same way. It's like stretch my stretch my awareness, stretch, stretch my, give me another point of view. I absolutely love that. Absolutely. Uh okay, let's see. He's okay. So Jeff Mitchell says, name three books people should read to better understand how the world works. But I think maybe we've already covered that unless there's something else that you want to add into there.

SPEAKER_05 41:21

Mom, I would uh just like depending on how you're saying how the world works, but I would say the outwitting the devil, and there is a I believe I want to say it's called the power of your subconscious mind is the title of the book. That's a very good one as well.

SPEAKER_00 41:36

Yeah. I think just the fact that you read every day same. I I do the same thing. And I think if you look at people in life that are um solid in who they are and going places, they read. Right? And I and I did a study the other day because I thought, I don't know how many what the percentage of people is that reads, but it was like from 10 years ago, it was 28%, now it's down to like 16 in 10 years. And I thought, oh God, that's dangerous, you guys. That's really dangerous. And it doesn't matter what it is that you read, but it's you know, shutting off the noise and just having your own time with that. What a lovely thing that that is.

SPEAKER_05 42:09

Yeah, and I think even like a lot of people sit there and act like non-fictional books are a terrible waste of time. I don't agree because that also keeps your mind active. Because the entire time you're gener, at least you should be, generating some sort of image of what's going on. Just keep it keeps your brain sharp. Like my mother reads non, no, fiction books. That's what I'm gonna say. She reads fictional books, novels, and all that stuff. She's 70 some odd years old and extremely sharp. And I think that that contributes to that.

SPEAKER_00 42:33

I think it does too. I think people should read as much as you possibly can. I love it. Absolutely. Yeah. Uh Majestic Ollie says, Do you think your content reflects who you are in real life or what performs best?

SPEAKER_05 42:46

A combination of the two. Like everything that I have ever said, I think. Like, is my is my actual legitimate thoughts and beliefs and worldviews and operating. Sometimes I will say certain things in a way that I know will get more tracking. But I don't say things specifically because they will get viewed. I think a lot of people think I'm mean. I'm not. I'm very, I'm very nice, I'm very ish. I'm just blunt.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

I think people don't I think people have a hard time with that. I think there's a difference between kind and nice. And I think I think there's too many people that have played into the whole nice thing. And if you're not nice, like if I don't give this uncomfortable laugh to make you feel more comfortable, then I'm an asshole. And it's like, no, I'm totally comfortable with the silence. I'm I'm fucking comfortable with myself. I'm not going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05 43:53

That's not you. What you want from me.

SPEAKER_00 43:55

And so, but I think people think that you're an asshole when you do that. And it's funny because my husband. And I are both the exact same way where it's like I'm completely comfortable with the silence. I'm not going to we can sit here and be quiet.

SPEAKER_05 44:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 44:06

It's totally fine with me. It doesn't hurt my feelings, but I think it makes people think you're an asshole because I'm not going to go out of my way to make you feel more comfortable, but I also don't think it's my job. So absolutely not.

SPEAKER_05 44:14

If you want me to laugh, maybe laugh. What do you want from me?

SPEAKER_00 44:16

Also, like people that are um hell bent on misunderstanding you. I do not correct mistake. Exactly. Enjoy that.

SPEAKER_05 44:25

I'll say something, and if I if I feel that I have said it clearly enough to be understood, if you want to understand it, I'm not explaining it. Take it however you want.

SPEAKER_00 44:34

Take it however you want. And enjoy your day. Keep it.

SPEAKER_05 44:36

Do what you will.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

Casey M626 says, What's your most unpopular opinion?

SPEAKER_05 44:43

All of them. Oh yeah. My most unpopular opinion. Such a difficult thing. Because I feel like my most unpopular opinion is going to depend specifically upon the audience that receives it. What? I have to circle back to that.

SPEAKER_00 45:15

Okay, no problems. We'll give you some time.

SPEAKER_05 45:17

Yeah. But I do want to I do want to answer that. I'll just go take a minute.

SPEAKER_00 45:20

Okay. Uh she also wanted to know what's something people assume you've mastered that you're still working on.

SPEAKER_05 45:26

These are I'm still working on everything. Okay. Like I'm not like, I'm not sitting here like I'm super perfect, man. Like I still struggle with wanting to, like, I have lazy thoughts pop into my head all of the time. Like, there's all kinds of things I need to do that I don't want to do, that I have to sit there and fight with myself. Be like, no, go do it.

SPEAKER_03 45:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 45:44

Um, I I entertain procrastination very, very much. Um, yeah, I'm not I'm not perfect at anything. I I don't I don't personally believe that I've mastered anything. Like everything that I do is a is a is a work in progress.

SPEAKER_00 46:00

I think that's a great perspective. Uh I don't even know how to say this one. Boutique lose the luna something. Okay, what's your biggest fear? That's a great one. That's a great question. And some of these I realize that it's like, you know, big, big thought-provoking ones, but I don't sit here and be like, I'm not afraid of anything.

SPEAKER_05 46:24

That's absolutely ridiculous. I think people who say they're not afraid of anything are dumb. But I think the thing that I would think is the absolute worst is, and I've always think I've always thought would be the absolute worst, is to wake up one day when I'm 80, 85, 87, whatever the fuck years old, and to look back on my life and be like, fuck. I wish I did that differently. I wish I would have done X, I wish I would have done Y, whatever the case may be. I probably don't have as many I wish I wouldn't have done because that's how you learn. But so that that would be that would be it. Looking back at the end, yeah, looking back at life and being and wishing I did it differently. Yeah, that's a great answer.

SPEAKER_00 47:04

Uh Heifer Korn says, Have you ever been in love? Do you know this person?

SPEAKER_01 47:09

Okay, I'd love these handles, they are fucking great. Just great.

SPEAKER_05 47:14

The answer to that is yes.

SPEAKER_01 47:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 47:17

We're gonna leave it at that unless you care to allow great, unless that's an ex-girlfriend. Okay. Uh B. Westy says, when people call you names like Kuhn, how does that actually make you feel?

SPEAKER_05 47:28

I don't care. Like I have multiple perspectives on all of this. But the way I look at it is this. Imagine you're like, you know, you're like driving up the street and you sit there and you get, or you're driving on the freeway and a bunch of bugs splatter all over your windshield and whatnot, right? I think it's annoying. It's unideal, an ideal world. There wouldn't be bugs on your windshield. But ultimately, does it really affect you that there's bugs on your windshield? Like your car still works the same, you weren't hit in the face. So I'm not, I'm not mad about the bugs on the windshield. I'm not mad that people call me names, such as life. It is what it is.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

Uh is there one comment online that lives rent or has lived rent-free in your head for a while? Regardless of whether it was positive, negative, whatever.

SPEAKER_05 48:17

The only negative comment that I have ever, it wasn't it wasn't specifically a comment, but the only negative interaction that I remember that periodically pops into my head is when I first started making stuff, just making videos. I did a QA on my story. And I think I had maybe like 400 followers or something at the time. And somebody went on there and they they left a question or put a question, whatever the case may be. They said, Why am I on here talking like I have two million people listening to me, or what it is that I'm saying? And I always thought, well, this is a this is very, very interesting, right? Because that kind of shows the problem with people's perspective. Like we were talking about people don't want to see you fall and whatnot. Like you have to, if you want to be a bodybuilder, you have to live like a bodybuilder long before you will ever look like a bodybuilder. So this is that is the problem with people's perspectives. That just that just always entertained me because it's like these are the type of people who are never going to be able to get anywhere because they won't they don't want to do something until they're at the level to do that thing, which is ironically what will prevent them from ever getting to that level. And then the reason I remember it because I responded to the comment with a video, and then at some point, it was a few months later, I had a video, it did like three million views or something like that. And somebody somebody left a comment on the video, hey, remember where that guy said that? And I'm like, oh my God, yes, I do. Yes, I do. That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 49:45

Well, it is lovely to live from that perspective because it's like, who's going to give you permission? You also live in this same world that I do, where it's like, um, who's gonna stop me? Right? I know what I'm doing and I don't give a fuck, right? People make comments about, oh, you only have blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Boss, stay in your own lane. I'll fucking focus on what I'm working on. And I believe the same thing. It's like you have to live up here because then life meets you there instead of asking permission for somebody. I'm not some timid woman who's waiting for permission to be able to do what the fuck I want to in life. That's outrageous. You live in the same world, it sounds like the way to go. Okay, uh, it's it's Ashbreit wants to know are you worried about being targeted like Charlie Kirk?

SPEAKER_05 50:29

I have no, as my answer is gonna be no.

SPEAKER_00 50:35

People have said that too. It's like when you're out here saying outrageous stuff, and it's like, it could be, right? I could get shot in traffic for fucking giving the thumbs up and the thumbs down. Like shit could happen. Like, that's who knows.

SPEAKER_05 50:45

So my my personal perspective on the whole Charlie Kirk thing is he involved himself in an arena where those opinions were of detriment to him and to certain people because certain people looked at certain things. Do I believe some random person was like, you said stuff about trans people? No, that's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 51:04

Right.

SPEAKER_05 51:05

But so no, I I don't I'm not playing in that arena. I expect that.

SPEAKER_00 51:10

Okay, uh, David Aqua 2019 says, What's this guy's mission? What's his product besides talking shit? He complains about sports, but like celebrity posts. His mentor Wes Watson got locked up for beating his girlfriend. This guy makes no sense. The question is, what's your mission?

SPEAKER_05 51:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 51:31

Uh what and then your product besides talking shit is your book talking shit, which I fucking appreciate. I don't know that that even warrants a question, but what is your mission? Like what drive what drives you? Let's start with.

SPEAKER_05 51:45

Let's bounce through all these things. Ultimately, so I'm I say things for a myriad of reasons. There are some people who will sit there, pop up in my comments and be like, you just like hearing yourself talk. You know what? They're absolutely correct. Absolutely, I love hearing myself talk. I like watching myself say things. I like listening to myself. So I do do that. It entertains me and it makes me happy inside.

SPEAKER_01 52:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:08

Do I hope to resonate with certain people? Absolutely. If so, somebody, if you hear something that I say and that changes something in your life, that's beautiful and that's amazing and that makes me happy. If nobody was listening to me, would I keep saying the same things? Yes, because once again, I enjoy saying things and I like watching myself do it and hearing myself say these things. So it's a combination of things, but it puts positivity out into the world, and I just like doing stuff. Yeah. I like making things too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:31

You know, the it's a whole creative outlet in that way. Like your stuff is creative, it's clever, it makes sense. I like sharing things.

SPEAKER_05 52:37

Like I like putting words, I like coming up with metaphors and like I like do, I like these. I enjoy it, it makes me happy.

SPEAKER_00 52:42

When you I think you and I are similar in that way, of just like the analogies of things where it just makes people think in ways that they hadn't heard it before. Whatever that is, right? You resonate with your your people, I resonate with my people. But it is just a different, it just one click or two clicks off of like, hey, let's get curious, or why is this this way, or just just enough to make people go, hmm, why is that? And I fucking love that about you. Absolutely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:04

Uh sports. Something about sports.

SPEAKER_00 53:07

Yeah, yeah. Well, we just said he complains about sports, but likes celebrity posts. Like, I again, I don't know what people what people think. Like, they look at something and they go, well, this is what you said and this was what you thought. And it's like, that was six months ago, number one. And I'm growing every single day. Maybe I still believe that, but also who's fucking keeping score? I just don't understand.

SPEAKER_05 53:24

Not only that, here's the thing. To the best of my knowledge, I've never actually said anything about sports.

SPEAKER_00 53:27

Um I was gonna say, I don't think you have either. That's it's usually the hard-hitting shit about, you know, the things that really piss people off. I don't think I've ever heard you say anything about sports either. But thank you, David Aqua 2000.

SPEAKER_05 53:38

Yeah, so and yes, I worked with Wes Watson several years ago. But I don't I don't know what that has to do with anything. I can't I can't control what people do with their lives.

SPEAKER_00 53:46

Exactly. Like now I'm in control of what he does. Fuck. Uh okay. Berlin Richard Richens says, are public schools damaging kids and should more parents homeschool?

SPEAKER_05 53:56

Oh, now I'm not here to tell anybody whether they should or should not homeschool because it's a whole entire I don't know how that I I don't know. I don't have kids. I don't know the logistics of homeschooling, I don't know all that goes into it. Are public schools damaging kids? Absolutely, 1000%. Oh my goodness. Everything that is a part of the system damages everyone who participates in the system. So what I think is if you can home, I mean, if you can homeschool, yeah, probably, unless you're also one of these people who are gonna do the exact same thing.

SPEAKER_01 54:24

You're gonna ruin your kids too. Well then maybe you want to send this school.

SPEAKER_05 54:27

But I mean, you should as a see, this is part of the problem. When I was, when I was when I was young, I learned how to read. I learned how to do math because my mother taught me to read and my mother taught me how to do math. School did not teach me these things. My my mother did. So you should be instilling things in your kids. At the end of the day, you should be someone who is able to have a presence in your child's life that what you have instilled them overrides what the public school has instilled in them. If the public school wants them to believe X and you want them to believe Y, they should default to your Y because you are the type of person who they would want to listen to.

SPEAKER_00 55:02

Yeah, you can't just send them off and hope for the best. You can't just send them to them.

SPEAKER_05 55:08

Because why do they have more influence than you do?

SPEAKER_00 55:12

Curious question. Uh Michael Bowler says heteromarriages with kids where someone later comes out as gay, thoughts. Heteromarriages with kids where someone later comes out as gay. Thoughts.

SPEAKER_05 55:30

Like the kids or the married people?

SPEAKER_00 55:32

I'm gonna say the married people. Well, shit, I don't know. Heteromarriages with kids where someone later comes out as gay. I think one of the married, like one of the married people.

SPEAKER_02 55:43

I don't have anything. I don't know what to do with that.

SPEAKER_00 55:46

I don't either.

SPEAKER_01 55:47

Listen, I don't give a fuck who you fuck.

SPEAKER_04 55:49

That's what like I I don't I don't care. Like, what is it what is it, what is it that you want? Live your fucking life.

SPEAKER_01 55:54

Agreed.

SPEAKER_00 55:56

Couldn't be concerned less about that. Okay. Uh Glass Camp TV says, is there anything more important than lifting heavy objects and ignoring society?

SPEAKER_05 56:06

I mean, obviously. I don't whole list. We've got it alphabetical. Yeah, like I don't understand the ignoring society part. I mean, I I I'm a believer in ignoring narratives. And you know what? The the Bubba being on there made me think of a thing. When I was young, grew up in Southern California. I don't know what's like today, but if you know back in the day, there's lots of gang members running around Southern California. So one time we went to the mall. It's me, Bubba, dude named Chop. Now, Chop had a hat, it was a red hat with a white C on it. I don't know what the sports team was. But we went to the mall, he wanted to get embroidered with his name, like they had the little uh kiosk or whatever. So he wanted to get it, it was it had the C, he was gonna put hop. So Bubba made a joke about the hat. Said it looks like the hat says C hop. And he made a joke and said it stood for Crip Hop. And then the lady who was doing the hats, old white lady, was like, Are you guys talking about bloods and crips? And she said, I thought that was only in Ohio. That's what was very interesting to me. This lady is in the middle of places where there's the mall, there's people, there's gang members running around this mall. She probably lives nearby, so she lives near gang members, probably lives near gang violence, and had no idea that any of it was going on because she did not look for it, she did not participate in it, she did not give it any mind. She was surrounded by something that we knew about, but she had zero idea with it because of what she was focused on. What she was focused on was not that. And by and large, this will apply to all of the things in the world.

SPEAKER_00 57:42

Totally true. Totally true. It's it's literally that simple. Yeah. Uh Paisley Chick Farm wants to know your favorite idea. I can't make them up. I mean, I could, but I haven't. Uh favorite quote about perspective shift.

SPEAKER_05 57:58

My favorite quote about perspective shift. I would say your world is a product of your worldview, and I really like that. I'm going to use it because it's mine.

SPEAKER_00 58:09

I like it. I like it. Okay. Chris Lowe7361 wants to know Would you ever go speak to elementary school kids?

SPEAKER_05 58:17

I don't think I'd be allowed to speak to elementary school kids.

SPEAKER_01 58:20

After the last episode that we did, my producer.

SPEAKER_05 58:22

Yeah, 1000. No, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 58:23

My producer comes and he's like 212 times. I said, What's that? He goes, 212 times is how many times you and Jason dropped the F-bomb. I was like, Well, I was like, well, you know, whatever.

SPEAKER_05 58:34

Would I, yes. And you know what? Speaking of the analogy thing, I think that that would actually serve them very well.

SPEAKER_00 58:39

I agree with you. And I think, you know, I was talking about kind of what my next book project is going to be. And I'm going to do one that's catered more towards like middle school age kiddos because I think you can grab them earlier than, you know, men that are already fucked up or women that are already fucked up. So it's like, let them infiltrate. I'll send in the Trojan horse with the kids to their parents. But, you know, we've got to do something where people start opening their eyes a little bit. So yeah. Elementary school kids, middle school kids, high school kids, yes. But we'll work on Jason not saying the F bomb, but yes, reach out. We want we want to get him out there. Uh okay, let's see. What's the actual mission here for you? Uh, what do you ultimately hope people feel after listening to you?

SPEAKER_05 59:18

Ooh, what do I hope people feel? I don't know. Whatever it is that, however it is that they feel is on them. I'm not specifically trying to make anybody feel a certain way. But in an ideal world, after I say things, I would at the very least like it to make you go.

SPEAKER_00 59:34

Same. Curiosity. I think that's that's absolutely perfect.

SPEAKER_05 59:38

You don't have to agree with me. You don't have to think that I'm right, but at the very least, I hope to spark a thought.

SPEAKER_00 59:43

Yeah. Well, that was my last question. I think we did really well on timing. Is there anything else that you wanted to say?

SPEAKER_05 59:49

Yeah, I was supposed to go back to one. Yeah, which one was that? Let's supposed to think about it. Then I got distracted and forgot about it.

SPEAKER_00 59:55

Well, some of these two, it's like it's a lot to think about while you're just sitting here trying to answer questions as well.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:02

It was before the fear one.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:10

Uh what do you look like completely naked? No, that wasn't the one. I'm just kidding. Um, no, I don't know. Well, if we if we remember what it is, maybe we'll have to put your answer in the comment section when we when we put this episode out because I think that that's fascinating. We'll give you time to think about that one. So um Jason's book, everyone, please. This is I can't tell you how happy this book makes me. It's the way, the way that you write it is so easily digestible, but in such a beautiful way, right? You don't have to sit down and go, like, okay, and now I gotta you know read this whole novel. You can just read it's digestible. Read one a day, see what that does for you, see where the curiosity comes up for you. I think it's genius. So definitely check his book out.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:53

I appreciate it. That was actually one of my goals. Like I've read a lot of books where it'll be 500 pages to convey a point that could have been conveyed in three.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:03

So I was like, let me just take as many of these things as I can and put it into one thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:06

No, I I literally I think it's genius. Everyone that I have in my tribe that's read it is like spot on. Like we're again in my tribe, big, big Jason Lamar fans, but well, there's a few of us that are not, but that's because I don't like bitch left. And that's on them. That's okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:19

Everybody can't like me.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:20

Exactly. Listen, some somebody told me one time, um, if you want everybody to like you, sell ice cream. And I don't fucking sell ice cream. Exactly, right, exactly. Maybe they don't like rocky rolls. Um, okay, so we're gonna wrap it up. It for anybody who is listening who has someone that they are interested in coming and getting naked, uh, send us your suggestions and I will I will see what we can do to get those folks on here to kind of be able to ask these questions. I think this is a lot of fun to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:46

Yeah, no, this was this was uh this was great.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:48

Yeah, so this was a great idea. Yeah, so thank you so much for coming and spending time with me. Thank you for having me. Yeah, that's a wrap.