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Bill Rishel - Legendary Cattleman, Innovative Leader
In this episode we joined by one of the true pioneers in the cattle industry--Bill Rishel. After graduating with a degree in animal husbandry from Penn State, Bill and his wife Barb became Nebraskans by choice when they moved to North Platte, Nebraska and started Rishel Angus. Bill has been heavily involved in the American Angus Association, Certified Angus Beef, National Cattlemen's Beef Association, Nebraska Cattlemen and countless other industry organizations, devoting thousands of hours supporting the industry he loves and mentoring the next generation of cattle producers. In 2024 Bill was recognized for his lifetime of servant leadership in the beef industry when he was named the 2024 Honoree by the Nebraska Hall of Agricultural Achievement.
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SPEAKER_03:Welcome to 93, the podcast, where we talk about Nebraska, its communities, its number one industry, agriculture, and the people who make it happen. I'm Mark Falson, your host for today's episode, brought to you by the Rembolt Latte Law Firm. Today I'm joined by my Rembolt Latte colleague Weston Swoboda, as well as legendary cattleman Bill Richel. Weston, Bill, welcome to today's episode. Thank you, Mark. Pleasure to be here. So, Bill, give a little background on yourself. As much as I think of you as a Nebraskan, you're not a native Nebraskan, correct?
SPEAKER_02:That is absolutely correct. I was born and raised on a very small farm, general livestock, and farming in York, Pennsylvania. The Keystone State. So are you a Penn State fan? Well, I I I am because I attended Penn State. That's where I did my undergraduate work. And in those days it was called animal husbandry. But uh it's funny, you know, uh when you talk about the way things are today and what's right and what's wrong, somewhere along the line the industry and the people at Penn State thought that they needed to create uh, I think a little more modern, up-to-date type image, if you will, and decided that, and a lot of schools did this, all trying to be more um appropriate, maybe is the word, but also more meaningful, and all went the what they called the direction of calling their institution animal science. And I get that, I totally understand it, but I can't help but think that here we are all these years later, and when you're getting as long in the tooth as I'm getting these days, it's it's a deal where now in our in our long-range plans for the industry that we do through the National Cattlemen's Beef Association, the data and information that is most recent to us, most current, is that the biggest concern to our customers and our clients that buy the product beef as we know it, the biggest concern they have is animal welfare. How do we treat our livestock? Which goes back to husbandry. Which goes back to husbandry. I mean, it's just a big, big circle that somehow made a few turns along the way, you know. And that's just what I see all the time in a lot of the ag industry is uh this repeat or change that we think is for the better. And and I think certainly there was good came out of that change as well. And that's the important part is that we just didn't deteriorate and go totally the wrong direction, but here we are, looking back in a direction as to what we were 60 years ago.
SPEAKER_03:So you went to Penn State, but you ended up in Nebraska. Get us how did you get to Nebraska?
SPEAKER_02:My favorite saying to that, and I use it a lot, is covered wagon.
SPEAKER_03:So, Bill, one of the things we ask our guests, what county is North Platte in? Lincoln County. What's the license plate prefix for Lincoln County? 15. All right, check another uh county off our box then.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely. And you know, for all of our listeners out there, while it might have been a long and winding road, I do want to note that Bill does have a husker shirt on the other day.
SPEAKER_03:So he is a full convert, full supporter of all everything Nebraska and Nebraska corn huskers.
SPEAKER_02:So and Nebraska agriculture and um support and uh Nebraska cattlemen in every way possible, and the National Cattlemen's Beef Association, and an absolute believer in the value of research and land-grant institutions.
SPEAKER_03:So I had an interesting idea the other day, uh talking with some friends who were all just kind of tired of all the new alignments in college football. Wouldn't it be great if we had a conference of just land grant schools that would play each other? So that'd be Nebraska, that'd be Iowa State, that'd be K State, that would be Michigan State, that would be even uh uh uh Penn State. Penn State, Penn State, Ohio State, even Clemson. In Cornell, I believe. In Cornell, right?
SPEAKER_02:I think you're right. I think Cornell is, and Cornell's a great vet school.
SPEAKER_03:So what year did Risha Angus start? When did you start raising Angus cattle in or around North Platte, Nebraska?
SPEAKER_02:Moved to North Platte in 1975 and spent some time working for a uh sales, a livestock sales outfit, primarily cattle, in North Platte by the name of National Livestock Brokers. And uh I had done a little business with them when I was managing Top Hill, started a bull sale in uh at uh Kearney, Nebraska, on the east side of Kearney, Nebraska, how long ago this was, that sale barn's gone. That auction market doesn't exist anymore. But we we shipped all of our bulls from the Western deal that we had and the eastern deal that we had, and we shipped them to uh I think it was Fort Kearney Beef Producers, they call it the feedlot that's just south of 80 down Highway 10 in central Nebraska out here, which is a little more east for those that live way west. I've got to quit, you know, getting out of that good habit of realizing, like a lot of people, that everything starts and ends in in Lincoln and Omaha. But uh we ended up coming out, and the biggest decision that my wife and I had to make on coming to Nebraska was a handful of cattle that Harold let me run and develop a little bit on my own uh while I was managing Top Hill for him, and he was that's he was just exceptional at that. He brought up the idea about it because he said, I kind of understand that some of you guys in this business like to own a few cattle. And I said, Yeah, there's no doubt about that. We all do. It's in the blood. And uh he understood it as a guy who really never had any prior experience to that, you know. But uh it worked out, and the biggest decision we had to make was whether we could afford to truck them to North Platte, Nebraska, even in those days, and trucking didn't cost or fuel didn't begin to cost what it does today. But that was a major, major decision for us, and I was so glad we did because probably 15 years later, roughly, the top-selling bull in our sale at$15,000 went back to one of those females that I brought along out here. Breeding cattle, breeding livestock is not if if if you're really, really interested in a job that's just rapid fire, get a job on the stock exchange at New York City because you'll probably be more to your liking than agriculture and raising cattle because it's not going to happen overnight.
SPEAKER_03:So you are the father of three daughters, correct? Yes. So as am I. Uh any uh special stories you want to share? I mean, we you and I maybe could have gone through therapy together to try and have someone uh teach us how to raise three daughters, but it is an interesting experience.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I it's I I will there's a few that come to my mind. Um our oldest daughter is Jill. One day we were working 4-H calves together, and all of a sudden out of nowhere, she says, Dad, she says, You're kind of lucky, aren't you? And she stopped me in my tracks and I thought, Where's this going? She was probably nine or ten, you know, at the time. And I said, I said, Jill, I have been lucky in my life, but I said, What brought this up? Where are you going with? Oh, she said, it just seems like whatever you decide you're gonna try and do, you usually find a way to get it done. And I said, Well, I have to share an important part of that being lucky thing. I said, The harder you work, the luckier you will be. And don't ever forget it. So when she gets old enough and she marries, and by the way, both Jill and Joy are two oldest, played softball at the University of Nebraska here, too. And so um we were in Texas where they ended up because she and her husband Ron, their last name is Woolforth. Their business, believe it or not, is a baseball pitching business. And Jill told me one day, she said, I know you were probably disappointed that I didn't come back to the ranch, but she said, We did do our thing and figured out what was kind of best for us. And it's called the Texas Baseball Ranch, and that's the closest we've ever gotten any of them to ranching.
SPEAKER_03:So that that that herd that you moved back from, so you trucked some cattle from back east, you started a ranch in North Platte, Nebraska. How large did you grow that herd to be?
SPEAKER_02:Eventually, we got to where we were running 200, 250 mother cows in that range.
SPEAKER_03:And when did you have your first annual bull sale?
SPEAKER_02:First sale was a combined sale with the Grosseth family in North Platte, who were like us, just trying to build their own outfit. And so when we got to the point to where the two outfits, the Richelangus and the Grosseth herds, we we got to the point to where we had a hundred saleable bulls that we thought were good enough to represent the the herds, is when we started having a sale. And as the industry grew and as our herds grew, we got we got bigger and and uh the Grosseth herd got bigger, and it was getting to the point to where it was just time to split the deal and go our own ways, and we finally did that. And then down the road from that, uh, we got to the point to where we increased each year as we got them what we thought were good enough cattle to represent us. My wife had given me pretty strict instructions when she said one day, she said, What are we gonna do with this operation? We spent most of her life building this thing up to where it is. And she said, if we don't figure out something to do with this, and something happened to either one of us or both of us, she said, those three girls of ours will come back and dig us up and make us fix it. And I'll never forget her telling me that because I thought about it a little while and I thought, that's pretty wise advice. And so I did contact a guy in North Platte at the bank, and I told him that we would like to not go through a dispersal. I said, I don't know if I can take dispersing this herd of cattle. Well, they're so good right now, they're really they're one of the best herds of cattle that was in the United States at the time. And uh I said, if you find a young couple that you think might take this on, give us a call. Well, a couple more years went by. And one day the telephone rang and he said, uh, I remember the conversation we had, and and he said, I have a phone number I'm gonna give you. And he said, This guy's pretty energetic and pretty enthusiastic. And there he said, they're a good couple, good background. And he said, I just don't know if it'll really work or not. But he said, I'm gonna give you the number and you can decide if you want to call it. And I did, and it so happened it was a guy by the name of Trey Wasserberger, and Trey was from a family in Wyoming, very, very successful ranchers, commercial ranchers, and he had met and married a girl when he went to the University of Wyoming. The girl was Dana Olson. Her dad and mom, Kirk and Tracy Olson, and uh and and of course uh Kirk's mother and dad were all involved in this Olsen operation, and they have about a 40,000-head feedlot there south of Hershey, Nebraska. And so it's really funny how people think about things. I was excited because of their background. And I didn't know anything about them. I had I had met all the Olsons through 4-H and County and what have you, but I didn't know any of the Washerburgers, and I was embarrassed that I hadn't even learned to know Trey, who had been living in the North Platte Hershey area for quite some time, and I had never met him. That's just because he's he's got so many things going on most of the time and just keeps busy enough that he's taking care of business and not just, you know, hanging out doing other things.
SPEAKER_03:So uh so one of those businesses is sustainable beef, correct? He's part of that. Yeah, what is sustainable beef?
SPEAKER_02:Sustainable beef is the brand new, never-before used packing plant, beef packing plant that is nearly built, nearly completed on the eastern edge of North Platte, Nebraska.
SPEAKER_03:And when do they expect to begin operations?
SPEAKER_02:You know, the latest I've heard is mid-April, perhaps, that they'll have that thing running.
SPEAKER_03:2025?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but originally it was supposed to be about mid-late summer. How many things do you hear about these days being built that they actually beat the original date? And I have had the opportunity to tour that plant and to see it. It is the most modern plant. Uh it's built by a firm out of Omaha, Nebraska, that I can't say right now, but um they're very, very highly regarded and respected for building packing plants in particular. That's their specialty. And they've done them all over the United States. And when we toured that thing, the young man taking us around said, In so many ways, this will be the most modern packing plant you've ever been in. And the fact is, he said it should be, because every time we make improvements, we're applying all those improvements to the newest, latest plant. And he said, This is the latest plant, and it will work here until this one's done, and then we'll see what else is available. But um, it's very, very interesting to take that tour and see what's going on. And they've been very gracious about taking some time and doing that for the people that have that put money into this and are behind it. And so I'm this is is so important to me, and I'm not even involved in it. That's how I see this sustainable beef and the packing plant as one of the key parts of the most recent long-range plan for the entire industry.
SPEAKER_00:Well, Bill, I thought it was interesting you're talking about sustainable beef. Talk a little bit about some of the challenges that you think they could face. I mean, they're obviously coming online at a very interesting time, right? With record high cattle prices. Um, you know, how how do you think they'll navigate some of those challenges?
SPEAKER_02:You know, it's it's it's a great question, Weston, because uh there's no doubt they're gonna, you know, a new business, I don't care who you are, the pack the packing industry is not any different than any other business if we were discussing today. Labor. Labor is going to be an issue because uh number one there's not a there's not a school or an education where you can go get experience at cutting beef in a packing plant. Um how you cut how you cut the sides, how you trim. If you trim too deep, you're trimming edible product away, and that's costing you money. So that's very, very important. I think that there may be, and I could be wrong about this, but my way of thinking is that these other packing plants are struggling a little bit right now. And I think they have trained people who are working long hours and it's hard work in these plants. There's no question about that. But these knowledgeable people are going to look at what other opportunities might be out there, and that would be an ideal workforce if they want to shift gears and go from where they are to a new to a new location. As I joked with you earlier today, maybe it'll be a little like the portal.
SPEAKER_00:That's what he was calling earlier, the beef portal.
SPEAKER_03:I think we'll call it the beef portal. I like that. I like that idea. Hey, let's uh segue a little bit into the future of the beef industry. Uh, let's say 10 years from now, what what looks different? What has changed? What do you think is going to happen?
SPEAKER_02:It reminds me of a weatherman trying to tell you what the weather is, and we know how that works lots of times. I want to talk about the great paradigm shifts that I've seen in my lifetime in this industry, both the purebred side and the beef cattle side in general. One of the very great first paradigm shifts that I think of is artificial insemination. And that's technology that has done amazing things. You both have used it. You know what I'm talking about, and it has made superior genetics available up and down the line. Uh we can argue about what's superior and what isn't, because I'm very particular about what I think is superior genetics. And uh but that's an example of what I'm talking about. So, to your exact question, is that there's going to be more and more technology all the time. That's a given, and that's not going to change.
SPEAKER_00:Well, yeah, I think it's funny uh when you're talking about AI, you know, for the people in my generation, when we start talking about AI ever came. Exactly. So uh I always think that's funny just to get on the the same uh kind of vocabulary. But you know, one thing that I wanted to draw attention to that that you would understand is uh, you know, I was I got to thinking about how the the cattle business actually has a lot of similarities to the kind of things that we do here at the law firm, you know, with some of our core values, you know, being innovation or or client success. Um, you know, and it just goes right along with exactly what you were talking about, that that willingness to change and and be a part of that. Um, one question that I would have for you is you you talked a lot about NCBA or Nebraska Cattlemans, and uh, you know, from a young person's perspective, it's great to have have mentors and to see uh you know leaders like you being continuously involved. I think that sets a good example for my generation to to kind of step into that and be involved. But just talk about uh the importance of those organizations to Nebraska as a whole.
SPEAKER_02:It it's really, really hard to get your mind and your arms around the importance of these entities. We are we, when I say we, I'm talking agriculture, and then the cattle business would be a smaller part of that, even though it's major here in Nebraska. I mean the entire business of Lincoln, Nebraska and Omaha, Nebraska, while a lot of them are corporate buildings for companies that are international, their whole livelihood doesn't depend on it. But sooner or later, just about everybody in business and industry relies on agriculture, one way or the other, if they want to be honest about it and really pay attention. It's so important to their families, their good health, and all the other benefits that we could actually discuss in a cast like this. But that all has to start somewhere. And with land-grant institutions that dedicate so much time to research and development, and particularly in this state in agriculture, it is the fountainhead for a lot of good things that happen downstream from all of what we're talking about. And it is so essential that so many times I would go to those meetings when I was working at home and I was dirty clothes and I'd have to wash up quick and get in the car or jump on a plane to go somewhere. And when I'd get there and sit in the meetings and be a part of them, and my way home, the only thing I could think about was and this this this was all no payment. This was all volunteer service, you know. But I couldn't help but think about the fact that rather than being paid to do what I just did, I should pay them. Because if you go to a meeting like that and you talk to folks who are in the same line of work and as serious about it and dedicated to it, uh you just come home and if you haven't learned something that you can put into your operation to make it better, that's on you. And that's the way I feel about it. And I I have my whole life. I just realized that just meeting people and getting ideas is huge. And let's face it, with the internet and with all the Google and with everything else today, lots of tools, very valuable tools. But the bottom line is I think we've got a very, very large population of young people that really do not have not learned how to visit with somebody to learn something. And we ought to get more serious about that.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely. You know, every time I that I come home from one of those events, I I can't help but feel energized. You know, a lot of times you you'll hear people, and you know, sometimes there's this doom and gloom element out there, you know, go find a career in something else, you know, that's that's maybe not agriculture. And and I just can't think of anything that could be further from the truth. You know, there's so much opportunity for young people who want to come in and be a part of this business.
SPEAKER_02:I speak to these young people quite often today, and uh even college level. And I I am I am just constant in my desire to tell them they're the most fortunate generation our country has ever seen. And I believe that with all my heart. They have more things at their fingertips and thumbs, thumbtips and fingertips, than any generation prior. And the information that's available there, it it's whether you're seeking a position, a job, however you want to call it, you can find out so much more information before you even go interview. You can save yourself so much time, be more efficient. And those are the great traits that you can learn along the way that are extremely valuable. Saving time, using it wisely, and being efficient that any of us can ever, you know, create for ourselves. And that is true of many different endeavors and many different things that you might try to tackle in in life. So um, and again, I I still haven't told you what 20 years out looks like, but it's the it's the technology and the knowledge gained and the ability to utilize that knowledge just to make industry better, to make a living better, to make life better. And not just for those of us that are involved in it, for everybody that touches agriculture. And sooner or later, agriculture touches everybody if it's on their lips.
SPEAKER_03:So Bill, one thing we ask all of our guests, what is one word, and just one word, that best describes this great place in which we live and which you've got uh we're obviously heavily involved in the cattle industry and remain so today, the state of Nebraska. What's more one word that describes Nebraska? I the first word that comes to my mouth or my mind is cattle. Perfect. So again, we going back to the future, it reminds me of one question I want to ask. What is the future of petri dish grown fake meat, uh lab grown meat? Where do you see that uh debate headed as far as real beef versus these things grown in a laboratory?
SPEAKER_02:I'm I'm not gonna sit here today and tell you it won't happen because never is a very, very long time. But I can tell you in one of the long-range planning task force that I was on uh the plant beef, plant protein, was just on the verge of really having a bust out. And of course, you had a lot of these uh geniuses like Bill Gates throwing millions at it, you know, thinking this was the next great thing since Santa Claus. And by the way, that season's coming up, so wish everybody a very Merry Christmas. Um but my my point in saying this the way I am and with the background, our task force spent probably too much time studying that concept of this plant-based protein. At the end of the day, I'm gonna put it this way. I thought there was a lot of uh common sense that prevailed, and we said, why should we be worrying about this at this point of time when the actual uh plant protein available was about as big as a millimeter or two, and we know where beef is in terms of demand and the use and in people's diets. And this is what doesn't make sense to me, those folks that want to push the plant protein agenda will tell you, oh, it's just as nutritious, it's just this and that and everything else. And guess what? When they when they finally made them put the ingredients on paper, it wasn't even close. The uh the sodium in that product was more unhealthy than just if I just took a whole bottle of salt and dumped it down my throat, it'd be far worse than what that or no, or the plant protein would be far worse than that bottle of salt for the sodium content. And and I just think people didn't have the knowledge and just thought, yeah, but I I can tell you, I've seen a lot of people that sit down to eat one of them and they didn't finish it. So it's uh there I don't think it's gonna go very far. I just don't, because I I don't I don't know even what you know, they've started trying to take the uh genomic makeup of meats and utilizing that to create a product that would really be truthfully beef-based because it's it's a genomic makeup from what the genome of beef is. And um that would come closer to being an issue for the industry than than just the plant deal and what they're doing. But I I just can't see it happening. I have a good friend. Every time he goes into a fast food place or that's tried this thing, this plant-based protein, he says to the person behind the counter or the guy cooking, he said, How's your new plant-based protein working? Oh, he said, I can't even stand back there when I'm cooking them.
SPEAKER_00:That's exactly right. There was uh an event um at the university here a while back. They brought in uh some of the folks who are are working on the the lab grown, the cell-based uh meat. And uh, you know, there was a conversation between them and then there were some representatives from Nebraska's beef industry sat down for a couple days to discuss that. Um, and you know, one thing that I thought was really important for for us from the the industry side of the table to voice to them was to voice and and have them grasp the concept that, you know, we're running businesses out here, right? And that was something that I think uh got overlooked because, you know, a lot of them are backed by private equity, some of this, right? It costs like$30,000 or something like that uh at the point in time where we were at that conference to 3D print a ribeye, right? Yeah. Uh and so that was something that I thought was really important for us to voice was they have to know we're running businesses, right? At the end of the day, beef producers are out there day in and day out and they're weighing risk and opportunity, right? And there is certainly uh room to have conversation, but you know, when they were really trying to bring us over to that side of the table, uh their stance was, hey, we want we want you guys to be the A team, but we want to be the B team and be there to support you, and we want you guys to support us. And, you know, I tried to really voice that at the end of the day, we're out here and we're making business decisions, we're weighing risk and opportunity. So what they're asking us to do is to take a huge risk, to come on to their side of the table, and and the opportunity is is nothing on on our side of the table, right? So it was something that I thought was really an interesting perspective where they weren't able to grasp that risk and opportunity uh situation that business owners have to go through.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I could look at it, West, in another way, and I'd bring up the fact that at one time there were typewriters everywhere, and really typewriters all got replaced, and we know how that's working today, computers and and uh keyboards and you name it. But my point in saying this is business is business, and if a business comes along that can beat the business we're in, um there's not a whole lot we're gonna do about it. I think I think what they were telling you was, without saying it, is they were desperate for your help. And that should be the first thing that you get out of that. Right. Yeah, capitalism.
SPEAKER_00:Consumers vote with their dollars, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and and I don't see any of us that really enjoy beef, the flavor and the taste, and then to have the nutrient density that it has. I don't see any of that going away anytime soon.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely. Another question came up, you know, we had had this conversation about where we see the industry going in in 20 years, and I had said, Bill, inquiring minds want to know beef on dairy crosses, that's a big topic of conversation right now. Uh what where do you think we're going with that?
SPEAKER_02:Well, actually, I see it from several different perspectives, and I've never been involved with it, but uh I have seen dairy steer carcasses hanging in packing houses. And I know there's some positive things about it, uh, some negative things about it. One of the things a lot of people do not realize is how well Holstein cattle marble. And they do an exceptional job of marbling with in the Holstein breed. Uh I have no idea kind of where that came from originally or how that all happened, but in one of our beef quality audits at NCBA one year, the national average for prime in our in our entire national harvest, and that was with some wholesteam beef included, there was uh I don't remember the exact numbers of the head of cattle that were in that audit, but it was substantial. It was big numbers that were real that would guarantee you that the data was factual. And the um the entire harvest of prime was in the two to two and a half percent range of all the cattle harvested, and uh the percent of prime in the Holstein portion of that entire national harvest number that was prime was about seven and a half, eight percent. And they were included in that two to two and a half percent of the entire harvest. So that fascinated a lot of people, and and um Dr. Gary Smith at Colorado State, a great meat scientist, was part of that group. Bo Reagan, who was head of that research and knowledge group at NCBA, and uh somebody else was in that meeting, and they invited me to go to dinner that night to discuss how much of this information ought to go to the membership at the membership meeting the next day about the the audit. And after I listened to all this, I hadn't really been a part of the conversation at all. I was just listening to all of it. And um one of the one of the gentlemen said, looked at me, and uh it might have been Bo Reagan. Bo was a guy that I worked under when I chaired a lot of those committees. And Bo was a meat scientist from way back in his days, I think it was Texas AM or Texas Tech, I'm not sure, but uh he said, uh, you haven't said a word. He said, How do you feel about this thing? And I said, Well, I've been listening to you guys telling us how good this data was, how complete, and you thought it was the best that you'd ever put together for a beef quality audit. And I said, Are you convinced that this is as good as you've been saying it is? And they said, without question, then I said, just tell these people in this meeting tomorrow exactly what the numbers are and what you saw. I said, that's we don't we don't do science to try to fool somebody. I said, it's facts are facts, and and we need to know it as an industry. So uh they did. And you know what? Nobody ever had a question or or said anything about it after they repeated it the next day because they were afraid, these guys were afraid, that somehow the beef industry would take opposition to the fact that these Holsteins are having more marbling than beef cattle. But all of these issues I've just talked about do not have anything to do with what we call fake meat. Nothing. Because the quality is still there, and if you still want the quality, I'd rather see people eating straight Holstein beef than plant-based protein.
unknown:Amen.
SPEAKER_03:Bill, thank you for joining us today. Again, it's been an honor and a pleasure to have a legend in our presence. So very grateful for that. Thanks for joining. Please keep on listening to 93 the podcast as we release additional episodes on Nebraska, its great communities, Nebraska's number one industry, agriculture, and the folks who make it happen.
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