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Terry Hejny - Teacher, Mentor, LEADer
In this episode we are joined by Terry Hejny, who retired in 2024 after leading the Nebraska LEAD Program for 16 years. As a former educator, coach, FFA advisor and extension agent, Hejny has positively impacted countless Nebraskans, Nebraska communities and agriculture. Listen as he shares his personal journey from a Seward County farm to Nebraska LEAD as well as a few stories he collected along the way.
Welcome to 93, the podcast, where we talk about Nebraska, its communities, its number one industry agriculture, and the people who make it happen. I'm Mark Falton, your host for today's episode brought to you by Nebraska's law firm, Rembrandt Lucky. The name of today's guest has come up in some of our other episodes, even though he wasn't a guest. Guests have identified him as someone who positively impacted them, both personally and professionally, and has impacted the state of Nebraska tremendously. Now we get a chance to visit with him in person. His name? Terry, welcome to 93 the podcast.
SPEAKER_00:Well, thanks for having me, Mark. It's a pleasure to be here on a great day. I if I wasn't here with you, I'd probably be teeing it up someplace. It's uh it is a beautiful day. I you do like golf, correct? I do. I'm very passionate about it. I was a um a late golfer in life. Um, you know, in high school it was football, basketball, track. The summers were spent throwing hay bales and working in the fields and didn't have time for anything like golf. So not until I got out of college and headed to Geneva, Nebraska was I introduced to the game.
SPEAKER_02:So you have an interesting history, at least interesting to me, and I know others. Walk us through starting that the the graduating uh grow where you grew up. What what county did you grow up in?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I'm a 16 county person. Okay, that's Seward County, not too far from here. Our our farm from actually where I live at Wilderness Ridge is only about 16, 17 miles away if it's if that. So I started out um, you know, a very diversified road crop, livestock farm, southeast Seward County, rolling hills. Um we didn't know what I didn't know what farming level ground was like until, you know, I I never have, I guess, until uh I moved to Geneva, and then there was a lot of level ground out there. So what did you do in Geneva? I was the high school ag teacher for about 17, almost 18 years. I I jumped ship in the middle of the semester. I started in July of 1980, and uh I was the high school ag teacher, uh FFA advisor, and also young farmers advisor. That was when um, you know, our young farmer chapters of adults, young adults, farmers and ranchers were connected to the high school ag program and and just had a lot of fun. I also did a little coaching, a little football, uh, a lot of track and field, and and I even did a uh one stint as the freshman volleyball coach before I I moved into extension.
SPEAKER_02:So I've heard stories about your coaching days. You were fairly successful, if I'm not mistaken.
SPEAKER_00:You know, we did good. We we had good kids. Um, you know, they were team players, they they knew their role. Um you can learn a lot about kids when they participate in track and field. Um, which kid's not gonna quit on you in the fourth quarter or or that type of thing. But we had good kids, um, good football teams, good track and field teams, um, you know, coaching young men and women in track and field seven through twelve, had four assistant coaches. Um, I felt like an event planner, organizer, uh, that type of thing.
SPEAKER_02:So, uh FFA advisor, what uh do you have any special moments from your days with the Geneva FFA?
SPEAKER_00:You know, there's so many. Um I had a lot of good kids, good support from the uh the the community, the the parents, the school system, the teachers that I taught with. You know, I had some great, great FFA officers, officer teams through the years. You know, I I I always felt like I I you know tried to give it a my all to them. Uh probably gave them more time than I did my own my own kids, but you know, you you always wonder about education. Did do your students make it because of you or do they make it in spite of you? And I'm hoping they made it because of me.
SPEAKER_02:Well, there are many who sing your praises. So you uh after uh you were an ag teacher, FFA advisor, you then went to go into extension, correct?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I did. It was it was an interesting thing. The county agent at the time, or I, you know, extension educator uh was a gentleman named Tom Dorn. Tom passed away a few years ago, but Tom was the educator there in Fillmore County. And you know, I was kind of, I don't know, I'd gotten my master's degree a few years before that, back in 1994. And I don't I don't say I was looking, but you know, I've I always like new challenges. I like to learn new things. And um, you know, Tom and I were visiting during the county fair one time, and and it was a stressful county fair. And for those county extension people out there, they know what I'm talking about. There's times when, you know, maybe you got chewed on a little bit and you're thinking maybe I need to do something else, or maybe I need to go to another county or something. And I just said that, you know, I might be interested. There was an extension job opening up on very far eastern Nebraska, and I'm not going to mention the county or anything, but he said, Well, just wait. You know, the extension job might may be opening up here. And I said, Tom, don't talk like that, you know, because he was it was one of those stressful county fairs, you know. It was 110 degrees out, and everybody was unhappy, and there was a few parents that were probably more unhappy than others. But, you know, fast forward a little bit, a couple three months later, Tom ended up taking uh a job here with Lancaster County Extension. Dave Varner, who was the educator, one of the educators here, took a job with the Dodge County, transferred to Dodge County. Tom transferred here. That opened up Fillmore. And so for 34 cents, the the cost of a postage stamp, um, the university was interested in me. And what was kind of cool about it, and I know, you know, families move children in school all the time, but my wife and I both went through kindergarten to high school senior at the different schools, of course, but you know, we didn't have that move, the stress of a move, making new friends, let you know, leaving a community. So it worked out really good. I mean, I took the job in Fillmore County. My oldest daughter was a seventh grader. Uh, she was in the building that I was teaching in at the time, so I think she was pretty glad that you know I was going to be gone. And I ended up starting my extension career in January of 1998.
SPEAKER_02:And after that, where did you go?
SPEAKER_00:Well, it was kind of an interesting time. Um, you know, I had been when I got into extension, I already had several people ask me or start recruiting me to be a participant participant in the Nebraska LEED program. And, you know, that was a program I'd always looked at. I wanted to do it as an ag teacher. And uh the school board that was made up of, you know, probably 80% farmers.
SPEAKER_02:Farmers, they're they're they're tight on the property taxes, I get it.
SPEAKER_00:Well, they were more concerned with an active FFA chapter, a very active FFA chapter, a young farmers chapter. You know, when I was going to be gone for the lead program, who was going to be the teacher in school and who was going to take them through all the practices for parliamentary procedure and record keeping for state farmer, all those kind of things. And so, you know, we had a lot of Fillmore County people that had gone through the program, one of them being Don Hutchins, who was in lead class one. Don Don's wife, Don, and I taught together when they were there. She was a home act teacher for my first five years. But anyway, that dream kind of just went away until I became an extension educator. And then, you know, I started getting recruited. Of course, one of my the person probably the most responsible for it would be Dr. Alan Bleasick, Dr. the late Dr. Alan Bleasick. He was my college professor. Um, you know, he taught me how to be a teacher, he taught me how to work with people, the relationship building, that type of thing. But, you know, the very first lead director, Dr. Jim Horner, was my advisor. And so, you know, I I think it's kind of cool that before lead even started in the late 70s, a long time ago, uh, the three of us were connected in the ag education department. One being, you know, Dr. Horner, my advisor, Dr. Blizik, my methods of instruction professor. Uh Dr. Blizick also came out to Sgt. Nebraska to watch me student teach, you know. So always had that connection. And and so getting recruited, but I said, hey, folks, I got to have a couple years as an extension educator. I got to get my programming going. I don't want, you know, I basically had to tell some people, hey, I don't want to be doing it right now as soon as I become an extension educator, because people are going to say, well, that's the only reason he got into extension, so that he could go through lead. And I don't, I didn't want that. And so a couple years later, in in the um spring of of uh 2000, I applied for the program, and then my wife and I um went through the interview process in in uh July of 2000 and was selected, and then I was a member of Lead Class 20 from 2000 to 2002, and so you know, um kind of an interesting time. Dr. Blizek had also been talking to me about uh when I graduated from the program about the possibilities of becoming the next lead director. If that was something I'd be interested in, because he he saw something in me that maybe I didn't see in myself. And my first question to him, do I need to have a PhD? And he said, you probably don't need one, but I think it really brings credibility to the program. And so I started a journey of taking a class each semester. And you know, being a teacher, Mark, I like face-to-face teaching. I mean, online there are some advantages, don't get me wrong. But you know, we were in the infancy of online education, and I wanted more than just some busy work online because that's what I saw some of it kind of being. Uh whereas, you know, I understand when you're taking a face-to-face and you're driving an hour and you're there for 15, 20 minutes, this is the course syllabus, here's the book you need, see you next week. You know, so there's advantages both way. But my wife and I started thinking, you know, maybe we need to get a little closer to Lankin. And it so happened that Jim Carson was the extension educator in Cass County. And Jim had found out a few years before that that I that I married a Cass County girl. And one year he said, I'm gonna be retiring in three years. And I said, So. The next year at State Fair he said, I'm gonna be retiring in two years. And I said, so. And the next year at State Ferry he said, I'm gonna be retiring next year. And I said, and so when that position opened up, um, I did apply for a transfer basically. I had to go through the whole process, but um, it was an opportunity for us, and at the same time, both daughters were out of high school. The youngest one was graduating in this in May of 2005. This position was gonna start basically in January of 2005. We could make this work, and it did work. And uh you know what an opportunity. It gave me a uh a chance to take maybe more than one class a semester. We're living in Eagle, Nebraska. Mark, I'm one of those that think you should live in the community you're serving. And now we could have lived in Weeping Water or Plattsmouth or something. It would have been a tough for my wife, who's in the medical profession at the time. You know, we could have lived in Lincoln and I could have drove, but we're not lit, that's not Cass County. So Eagle was a great place for us to relocate. And we lived there for several years. Um couple years later, I ended up being direct named director of the Nebraska Lead Program about two years later, but it took us five more years before we actually moved to Lincoln. I talk a lot, Mark.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, that's great. So for some the pretend uh those folks listening know nothing about the Nebraska Lead program. Can you describe what it is and the impact it's had on the state?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I'm a little biased. I it it is the premier adult agricultural leadership development program in the state of Nebraska, um, in the country and in the world. I, you know, I I think about the people, you know, going through the history of the program and how this thing came about and how it got started. And while we are the third longest running program behind California and Washington State, we do some things that those other states don't do. But anyway, what what it consists of, uh we bring a new class in every year, so two concurrent classes. So we're you know, when you're director of the program with your staff, you are you find yourself coming and going because we're we're doing 12 three-day seminars a year, a study travel seminar for the first year class, which is to Kansas City, Washington, D.C., and Chicago. And then the second year group does a uh international study travel seminar for anywhere from 16 to 18 days, you know, somewhere in there, to typically three countries, sometimes four. And so it's pretty intense. Um our tuition is is pretty nominal compared uh to a lot of states, um, you know, which means that we do a lot of fundraising. Uh we are a public-private partnership. I say we, I still feel like I have some little bit of ownership, even though the you do. Your name will always be attached to it. Well, I I it's I'm just a small part of it. Um, you know, I'm thankful for Dr. Horner getting the program started and then Dr. Blizick taking it to the top. And I was just fortunate to have the keys to the car. And you know, I passed them off about almost a year ago to Curtis Harms, and he's doing a great job. And I just hope he does it as long as I did or even longer. Uh, but anyway, yeah, you know, it you know, it's experiential leadership, and that's what what we do is we we put our folks in front of people. Uh, we present all sides of issues, so these experts are gonna help really stimulate their thinking, uh kind of get them out of the box. I know a lot of people sometimes use that term a lot, but we just stretch them, really stretch their thinking that, you know, um, you know, of what maybe they know from their local community, from the local cafe and the talk there, that there's there's other information out there. And so we put that credible experts in front of them. They're not always gonna agree or like what the people that say, but it helps stretch them into thinking about leadership and how these issues affect them and affects everybody. And so that's what we're all about. Um, you know, I know Curtis is recruiting right now, so I got to put a uh plug-in for lead class 44. Uh wow. Yeah, it's amazing. And so, you know, if I'll I'll just say this real quick: if you're someone that's that age between 25 and 55, uh involved in agriculture, whether production or agribusiness, um contact Curtis Harms at 402-472-6810. Give them a call, look them up on the website. I know they're recruiting right now, and uh they'll be selecting the next next lead class. Application deadline is always June 15th.
SPEAKER_02:So how many, how many individuals in a class typically?
SPEAKER_00:Well, typically pick up to 30. Now, there's a few years if you look at the roster that maybe they were short a couple three, or um, you know, during the COVID issues, we were a little over 20 each year there just because we did require the vaccine to to keep them safe, you know, not travel around and bring something back home. So, you know, we were a little less then, uh, you know, plus people are a little nervous about well, if I get in the program, am I gonna be able to go anywhere? Are we gonna be able to go anywhere besides Nebraska? Um, you know, we did have, when I talk about international seminars, our my lead class 39 that it took them like instead of a two-year program, it was almost a four-year program because we had to take about a year and a half off. And so they did not travel internationally because we could not go internationally. So we we did the best international travel we could do, Mark. We traveled the West Coast. We started in Washington State and worked our way all the way down to the border on Arizona of Arizona. And I I think it, you know, I you know, I'm not maybe a little bit biased. I've been to 50 countries with the LEED program, but you know, that experience was amazing. And the things that that class got to see and experience and do was amazing. So anyway, I talked a lot about lead here.
SPEAKER_02:So that's what that so I know you went on a ton of trips internationally as part of LEED. Can you give us one or two of what you call more memorable? It doesn't have to be a positive, the f favorable s favorite stories uh from some of the international trips.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, the international seminar that probably caused me the biggest headache was LEED 33. We took them to the United Arab Emirates, Nepal, and India. And so for any of the the class members listening to this or anyone that's on the was on the board at the time or as a as a relative or a friend that went in that program, in a nutshell, what happened on our way back, uh we were flying out of New Delhi. We're supposed to fly to Amsterdam and no to Dubai and then to Amsterdam and then back to Chicago. And um wow. What happened was we had a suspected terrorist on the plane. Oh my gosh. And he was the issue was that he was about 85 years old and he had a couple um different passports and information wasn't jiving, and the air marshal um was on board, and you know, all of a sudden, you know, we're not landing in Debah in uh Abu Dhabi. We're going from we're going from New Delhi to um Abu Dhabi and we're not landing, we're just circling. And all of a sudden they said, you know, okay, we're gonna be landing, and everybody needs to have their passport available. If you're married, make sure you're with your spouse. And they took us off the plane and we were all outside on the tarmac, and they were gonna start hauling us around. And what happened was this suspected terrorist said, I am gonna hide I was going to hijack this plane, and he pointed it at random people and said, These are the people that are helping me. Well, three of them were my lead fellows. Well, airport security takes a statement like that very seriously, and so they shuffled all these people. One was a a cup a couple from Germany were celebrating their 50th anniversary. Uh, there was a couple other elderly people. Uh one one couple was um on their honeymoon, and then my three farm kids. And so they whisk them away. We've then they haul us to the airport. Well, we'd already missed our connecting flight. So I my wife was with me, so I put her in charge of the group to get them over to where we're supposed to go out, and I've got to go find out where these three are at. And so we ended up spending the night in Abu Dhabi, and uh for that 72 hours I got six hours of sleep. But we got home, made the connection, I got those people were released. It was interesting. I got a call from the embassy. We had been at the embassy in Abu Dhabi like 10, 12 days before, so I knew the people. I get a call and they said, Okay, you know, they're not gonna hold them for more than 24 hours. We don't think so. They can't. Then, you know, if they do, then they're gonna have to charge them and they have nothing to charge them on. But you better have a contingency plan on how you're gonna get the rest of the group home. And so we walked through all that, and uh yeah, it was an interesting time, Mark.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I know it's we I mean, I'm I'm laughing about it in hindsight, but at the time I have no doubt how that would have been a very serious moment.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it was. Um, you know, here's the thing we couldn't do a lot of communication back home because everything was being monitored. And so I know I had I had some spouses that were a little upset with me going, what's going on? You know, well, I can't say anything because I don't need the whole group to get impounded. Um, but in an in a nutshell, we made the connecting flight in Chicago and got them back here. Uh, but those three guys, um, I don't know if they'll travel internationally too much. So, you know, they they didn't have a desire to, but what was interesting, it I felt like a dad on prom night because I get the message that they're gonna let them out, but they don't show up for about two hours, and I'm waiting in the lobby. Well, they're they've got limousine service, and they ended up going to a bar and have a cocktail. And I'm like the dad at home, like, where in the heck are you? But you know, uh, you know, that was memorable. I look back on it. Yeah, it was stressful, but you know, it was part of the lead experience. And they're gonna have some stories about, you know, the amazing things they saw in those three countries. But some of them are gonna say, Yeah, we're the group that had to spend the extra night. Abu Dhabi because you know, blah, blah, blah. So oh my goodness. Do the classes still get together? Do they have reunions? They do. They do. And I think it's really cool. Pam and I will go to them. But you know, I think that's their time to get together and laugh and talk and make fun of me. Or you remember how Terry got mad this time, or you know, whatever it was and stuff. But uh yeah, they do. And you know, I kind of it's it's not a real great comparison, but I I think going through the lead program is like going through the service. You know, you're with these people for a year and a half. I mean, you know, you're a bunk mate, whatever, roommates, what you know, type of thing. You you're up early in the morning, you're late at night. Some of these types of experiences, you know, it's kind of like going through war. Um, you have a close-knit type of thing, you experience the same things, even though you take different information or different things from those experiences because you see it through different lenses. But it it's a real bond. And then you and I think what's cool is with our 1200 plus alums, you know, there's several classes now that, you know, we repeated destinations. So when they do get together and meet someone from another class that may have also gone to China, you know, the Don Hutchins and Gerald Clausens that were there in lead one, you know, they talked to someone in lead 28 that went there in 2009, the changes, you know. So you've got these bonds that's really strong. And then working on projects and and getting together to move the state forward is pretty important.
SPEAKER_02:So, what impact do you think lead has had on agriculture in Nebraska?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, it's hard to measure that. I I can't every day a decision is being made by someone over at that place, and I'm pointing to the Nebraska State Capitol, or a county building, where there's commissioners or a school board or a hospital board in the state of Nebraska that's affecting all Nebraskans, and that those decisions are being made by lead alums and influenced by lead alums. I think I think it's amazing, Mark. A program like ours and and and the ones, the other 37 plus across the country, what they've done, thanks to the Kellogg Foundation, getting the thing started to get people to think globally and act locally, but to get involved in your community, make them a make your community a better place to live, work, and play. You know, and that's what we do. Um, you know, not everybody's gonna grow up to be the governor or the United States Senator or the president or whatever, but you know, they're gonna be in their community, rural or urban, large, small, and they're gonna get involved. They're servant leaders, they're transformational leaders. I big impact. Um it'd be it'd be cool to I don't know if a person could ever put a dollar figure on it, but you know, I've had some some of the follow-ups we've done, and I've had I've had some alums say that the program was worth over$500,000 to them because of what they've learned and how they've implemented those things into their business. I think that's amazing. If you want to, if you're into dollars, I'm more of you know the anecdotal things of what it does for my life. You know, yeah, we can do a lot of quantitative measurements and we have, but I think the the qualitative things, the skills that they learn, um, how to organize people, how to get people to do things they may not want to do, that's a key thing.
SPEAKER_02:So as a Vocag teacher, as a coach, as an extension agent, as the director of LEED, have you tried to quantify how many individuals you have taught or mentored over the years?
SPEAKER_00:I haven't, you know, and I thought about that. Um I was very fortunate a few weeks ago at the Lead Bank with the Nebraska Lead Alumni Association picked me to be the 2025 um Alan G. Bliesick friend of LEED. And that is quite an honor. And I I was in my comments, I made the you know, I I referenced Dr. Blizick, of course, but I think about uh not only the students that he influenced when he was a high school ag teacher in Hamburg, Iowa, but I think all the student teachers that he influenced when he was in the ag ed department who went out and influenced all those students. And then when he took over as the lead director, those uh lead fellows that he influenced who in turn influenced you know, I don't know. I I if I I think that would kind of be scary for me to sit down and say, okay, I had this many high school students and you know, wow. Um I think it's kind of like at at his at his Dr. Blizick's funeral, the pastor said I picked up had a a kernel of corn and he had an ear of corn. And he said that one kernel produces this ear. And you think about that, people in education, that's what we do. You know, we plant a lot of seeds and we harvest. You know, we don't know what the harvest is going to be, but it's bountiful.
SPEAKER_02:So now that you have handed off uh lead to new leadership and have transitioned to the next phase in your life, what's keeping you busy?
SPEAKER_00:Oh my. Um, you know, as we were visiting a little bit before, I'm on the board of directors for Bruining Bank. Uh that's a lot of fun learning about the finance industry. And I'm sure glad I went into education. Hey, I almost became an attorney. I got accepted into law school twice and didn't go. Um, you know, so I enjoy that. Learning about, you know, all the things, the stuff that's out there. Wow, the fraud and the scams and all those things that are going on that, you know, our our hometown community banks that protect us and our and our large banks that protect us from those things going on, that keeps me busy. I I want to learn. I'm a lifelong learner. Um President Kennedy said leadership is learning, and I'm going to continue to learn until I take my last breath. Um, work a little bit at Wilderness Ridge at a golf course. You know, that keeps me hopping there. That's kind of fun. Working with young people. Um, you know, hopefully I can mentor some things, some new ideas to them or some things to help them uh with their career. Uh I'm also got a little gig working for uh Steve Tippery and Brant Berkey with uh Realm 5. Uh doing a little industry consultant, industry relations consulting with them. Plus, um I've got a couple grandsons here in town that are golfers, and I got a six-year-old grandson up in Omaha that's a little golfer, so that kind of keeps me happy there. Uh keeps me hopping, keeps me happy, teaching them the game. Can they can they beat you? Um, you know. Like all three of my daughters can beat me. Well, I'm telling you, I we I have have not taken them on the course. I I I refuse to take them on the course yet. I'm using the excuse that, you know, we got to get them ready to play. But once school's out and we go out, I know they're gonna outdrive me by a lot. Now, I think I've got some experience on how to play the course, so we'll see what happens, but that's cool. Uh I'm looking forward to the first time that they outdrive me. They're gonna be, you know, because they a few years ago they said, Oh, we'll never be able to out you, grandpa, outdrive you. And I'm thinking right now the older ones going, oh yeah, yeah, I've got you by but we'll see how they do around the green, right? Yeah, there you go.
SPEAKER_02:So do you read a lot? Do you have any recent books you said that kind of impacted you?
SPEAKER_00:I'm not sure if the you know the the reading I do, Mark, is different now. Um going through a PhD program when you're in your 50s, late 40s and 50s, you read so much that your eyeballs hurt. And it's all on leadership, it's all on organizational management, it's you know, some really page turners there. And there's some really good ones. My fun reading is historical fiction.
SPEAKER_02:And your favorite authors are?
SPEAKER_00:I like Clive Cussler, I like Steve Berry, um, I like Brad Thor, I like John Grissom, you know. So um, you know, I got kind of hooked on the Longmire series when it was on TV. So I've read all those books. You know, those are the fun reads that I want to have. What I think is cool, if I'm reading a Steve Berry or a Brad Thor, one book, for example, took place at a little cafe in Vienna, Austria. I was in that cafe with Leed. So when you read a historical fiction and travel to 50 countries, you know what when they describe something in the book, you were there and you saw it. And so that's what I think's cool. So that's my fun reading. I will I read oh I'll re I'll I might read a leadership book again, you know. I I like Heather Cox Richardson, and I those there's some pretty good biographers, you know, some biographies that I want to read, uh, you know, uh The Art of Power, you know, those type Thomas Jefferson type stuff, George uh H.W. Bush, those kind of books. I I like those kind of things. Um yeah, that's what I read.
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SPEAKER_00:Fun stuff.
SPEAKER_02:So, Terry, one thing we ask all of our podcast guests, and you just get one word. What is your one word that describes the state in which you were raised in Seward County, were an ag teacher in Geneva, were an extension educator, and then went on to go lead the uh the lead program, the Nebraska lead program. What's your one word for this great state, the state of Nebraska?
SPEAKER_00:Diversity. Explain. Explain. Well, you know, I've traveled this whole state. I can tell you where every where the best hamburgers are in every corner. But if you go from South Sioux to Venango or Rulow to Crawford, Ainsworth down to Blue Hill, you know, the topography changes, the landscape changes, the climate changes, the everything changes. And then you look at the people in Nebraska, the cultures in certain areas of how they well do things, how they farm. It can be agriculture, it can be just, you know, the pockets of communities that are Czechs, that are Swedes, that are German, that are Irish. I mean, we're just a diverse state, and we change more from Omaha to Scotts Bluff than this country does from the Atlantic Ocean to the Missouri River. And Ronnie Green said that, he said that several times. But people in Nebraska, if you live in Lincoln or Omaha, you need to get out to Scotts Bluff and Shadron and Crawford and McCook and Imperial. Um, it's beautiful. This state is great, and it's diversity. And that's we've got the resources for agriculture, but our human resources, the people we have, are amazing. And we just need to make sure that we provide great education, great health care, and continue to build communities that will support us uh and our state and keep moving us upward.
SPEAKER_02:Terry, thank you. Uh again, you're you're you're a cheerleader for Nebraska, and you can't anyone who's met Terry understands if you sit down and talk with him, you just can't uh leave that conversation without being inspired and energized and ready to go season the day. So I'm grateful for your time. Well, you're very kind. Thank you. I appreciate it. Folks, if you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing on Apple, Spotify, or whatever your favorite podcast app is. And please keep on listening as we release additional episodes on Nebraska, its great communities, number one industry agriculture, and the folks who make it happen.
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