Ashley Janae Case Update Plus Michael Jackson Netflix Backlash

The news feels like it’s on a treadmill lately and it won’t slow down, so we hit the biggest stories head-on and say what a lot of people are thinking. We start with the Ashley Janae case and the “final update” out of Tanzania: authorities rule her death a suicide after a reported domestic dispute with fiancé Joe McCann, and they close the case. We walk through what’s been reported, what’s been contradictory from the start, and why the outcome leaves listeners frustrated rather than relieved. 

Then we shift into the bigger question behind so many international tragedy stories: what happens when time passes and the people who care most are thousands of miles away. We talk through the red flags the internet keeps circling, including the lack of publicly seen resort camera footage and how quickly a narrative can get locked in when accountability is hard to reach. The takeaway is practical and uncomfortable: if your loved one is in a hospital overseas, you have to move fast, show up, and push for answers before evidence and attention disappear. 

From there, we touch a wild but revealing rumor about Drake, Jay-Z, and Beyoncé, and why “dirty pool” in rap beef can push things into a zone where people get hurt. We also get into the backlash around Netflix’s Michael Jackson documentary The Verdict, breaking down why so many fans call it a hit piece, from selective clips to claims that don’t hold up under basic scrutiny. We end with some lighter culture talk, including NBA energy and why fans respond when players actually care. 

If you value sharp celebrity commentary, true crime skepticism, and media literacy without the fluff, tap in. Subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review with the biggest question you still have after listening.

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SPEAKER_13 2:13

Tan tap in What's going on, everybody in this beach. Who we got? What's up? We got Enoch. What's going on, Enoch? Tinkle in the building. What's going on? Tinko, Sharon, Denise. I see you. I see you. I see you. Come on in. Come on in. Got a lot to talk about today. This is a news cycle that won't fucking stop. Everybody heading for the hills. We got supposed tapes coming out. What's up, Suzanne? Susan? What is up with everybody today? I put the donation link in the chat. Let me put it up on the big board. Today is Friday. Thank God it's T G I F thank God it's close. Hey, they was at T G I F P D. Like the live, y'all. Like the live as you come in. Who else we see in here? Y'all coming in here. We got how many? We got a couple Sharons, a couple Susan's. If they don't leave my my damn Michael Jackson, uh they'll leave my boy alone. I'm gonna go nuclear on motherfuckers. This is getting on my nerves. How many of y'all have seen all the fuss about that new Michael Jackson? That new Michael Jackson documentary is a hit piece that Netflix that's put out by being put out on Netflix called The Verdict. I don't even like plugging it. But I've been seeing the clips all over social media, and they are they will they just will not stop fucking with Michael. Plus, we're gonna definitely update on Diddy, his ass going down. It appears. Uh an update. We got an update in the Ashley, uh, Ashley Janae case. Uh well, and it sounds like this is a final update. What I feared from the beginning and what I told y'all appears to be true. Um boy, look like he, if he did it, which a lot of us think he did, has something to do with it. It appears he's getting away with it. Yeah, we're gonna go over it. I see a lot of people in the comments pissed like me. We're gonna go over it, you know. Um, and I'm not supporting it, but I'm definitely still gonna put Netflix on blast because the more it's people who don't understand, uh it's some people who don't understand how bad and how much we've had enough of this Michael Jackson slander. So although I don't want to promote it, I do want to expose it. And in order to expose it, I gotta keep it real and tell the truth about what's going on, and we're gonna have to go over a clip or two, but this is bullshit. Also, there's also rumors going around that Drake may leak. Dre may leak a sex tape because of his beef with Jay-Z, and it might have something to do with Beyonce. We're gonna talk about that too. This is this is this is this is a crazy one, y'all. Lot going on, lot going on. Yeah, grandma Kathy. Cassie left the country. We talked about that, I think what yesterday or a couple days ago. We talked about Cassie leaving the country. Definitely, definitely, definitely. She got her 30 million enrolled. Uh, so let's see where we're gonna start at first. Go ahead. If you want to support the show, you can either do so by getting a super chat or super sticker, or you can go to this link right here, just use a card and donate anywhere from a dollar to five dollars to $30 to $50, whatever y'all, whatever your heart, whatever's on your heart.

Headlines On Deck For Today

SPEAKER_13 7:09

But uh let's let's let's let's let's update y'all on the Ashy Janae case. Now, y'all know Ashy Janae was the case of the influencer who uh was dating uh a white man named McCann uh for about a year. They took, from what I understand,

Ashley Janae Case Final Ruling

SPEAKER_13 7:33

they took several trips. Uh the last and final trip was to Africa, where Mc Mr. McCann and I use the term Mr. very loosely, Mr. McCann uh proposed to Ashley. Uh and then not too long after the proposal, and she said I do, or so she said yes, uh they got into an argument, an argument so bad that they had to be separated, uh put in separate rooms, and then Ashley is found unresponsive, unresponsive, and shortly after that pronounced dead at a hospital. We got conflicting reports from the beginning, even even in the the update of them closing the case, we got conflicting reports. One report is saying the hotel staff founder, but other reports are saying Mr. McCann found her, and there's still it's still conflicting reports, but despite all the conflicting reports, everybody looking at McCann is the only possibility. Nobody believes suicide, and now we have the news that Tanzanian authorities have ruled that the 31-year-old influencer died by suicide. Talking about Ashley Janae, following a domestic dispute with her fiancé, Joe McCann. If you recall, Ashley was found unconscious inside her villa at Luxury Resort in April during what was supposed to be a birthday getaway. The Tanzania police say a hotel employee entered Ashley's villa during a wellness check after getting no response at the door and discovered her hanging inside a wardrobe closet. Authorities also said the incident stemmed from a fight between a couple days before her death, with hotel staff allegedly separating the pair into different rooms after the dispute. The tragedy came days after Ashy posted a video of Joe proposing during a safari they took while on vacation. Joe was questioned by local authorities during the investigation and had his test his passport temporarily seized, though he was never arrested, never charged. Almost immediately after her passing, Ashy's family publicly questioned the circumstances surrounding her death, saying they did not believe she would take her own life.

Why The Suicide Call Feels Off

SPEAKER_13 10:24

And if you remember, so much time went past, and it was way more than enough time for Joe McCann to uh cover up his tracks, pay off people. I mean, he was cool, he's cool with the owner of the villa or the resort. And I told y'all, with the family not being able to get over there, like I said, if I if it was my daughter, I would have been there. The minute she was probably I'm the minute she was in the hospital, the minute I found out anything like that, I'm on the next thing smoking. Um, your daughter goes over to overseas and ends up in the hospital. I think you need to get your ass out there. Anyway, I told y'all that I didn't feel good about the case because it was too much time for whoever did this. We believe Joe McCain has something to do with it. It was just too much time for whoever did whatever, had too much time to cover their tracks. And how we and this leads us to now where the Tanzanian government over in Africa has clo closed the case and said it's over with. I think that's a tragic story that ended the way a lot of us thought.

SPEAKER_04 11:58

Yeah. What's going on with Tracy?

SPEAKER_13 12:58

What you had going on, Tracy? What's going on, Tracy?

SPEAKER_03 13:12

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out.

SPEAKER_13 13:14

Oh, she said mental and job. Yeah, I understand.

SPEAKER_03 13:18

Yeah, I I feel you on that, Tracy. Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_13 13:24

It's it's it's one of those times. It's one of those times, it's a time right now.

SPEAKER_03 13:29

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_13 13:30

It's a time. What is going on with everybody? Yeah, so man, I told you.

SPEAKER_03 13:38

Man, we said that we said that, bro.

SPEAKER_13 13:42

Yeah, I ain't even surprised. Are you?

SPEAKER_03 13:45

No. It's sad though. It's sad. And I and I wish the family would have got over there sooner. Yep. Just like you were saying. Like, I would have been on the midnight train to Georgia just to get the connect and flight. Yep.

SPEAKER_13 13:59

Immediately. Once she went, once she once your baby in the hospital, come on, bro. It's time to get up and go.

SPEAKER_03 14:11

Call me about my uh I'm like, and that's how it goes.

SPEAKER_13 14:17

Yeah. Like to just be over here complaining and saying this and saying that, and days and weeks is going by, and you ain't going. I ain't get that, man.

SPEAKER_03 14:28

Nope, not at all.

SPEAKER_13 14:29

I don't give you got to figure out and find a way, man. Because you gotta think he already cool with the owner. We all know African police and government and all that is easy to pay off.

SPEAKER_03 14:42

Come on, money long already.

SPEAKER_13 14:44

Already. So he over there. I mean, it's almost common sense. He over there all by himself.

SPEAKER_03 14:50

She all secluded from her family.

SPEAKER_13 14:52

Yeah, and he knows everybody. She don't know nobody.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

He's going on a getaway. Yeah, he wanted to get you away from your family. Fuck shit.

SPEAKER_13 15:00

Some people over there don't care nothing about Ashley.

SPEAKER_03 15:02

No.

SPEAKER_13 15:03

He he passed somebody uh a a hundred dollars, hundred American dollars, five hundred American dollars is damn near like five thousand dollars. And and everybody shutting the fuck up, you know what I'm saying? They they deleting record. What we ain't seen. Now let me tell you this. This is a villa hotel resort.

SPEAKER_03 15:26

The resort in the foreign in the foreign country. So, but it's in them resorts. They put a lot of effort into putting them together. Exactly. With that being said, the motherfuckers got cameras.

SPEAKER_13 15:38

There you go. That was where I was going with it. And they got they got in a damn near every angle. We haven't seen shit.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

Like let's make it like where is just regular footage of her just walking through that motherfucker. Right. Show us nothing. Show us, show us the footage of them checking into the the damn villa. We ain't seen nothing.

SPEAKER_13 16:01

That's why you that if that don't show you that somebody getting paid off and it's a cover-up going on, it ain't gonna never, you'll never get it. We haven't seen shit. We haven't even heard from anybody besides internet sluice and YouTube people who you know, like independent sideline shit, but I'm saying major news, media new, you know, the major outlets. We ain't even seen no interviews from nobody. Nobody to say what happened when they got into an argument. You know, we ain't hearing no firsthand account of they had to separate them, man. This is just shitty, man. This is shitty, man. Like you said, it's it's sad more than anything.

SPEAKER_03 16:50

No, for sure.

SPEAKER_13 16:53

It's sad, man.

SPEAKER_03 16:55

No, D Washington. I ain't it ain't ca and I ain't rooting for the Spurs because they uh because the Knicks beat the Cavs.

SPEAKER_13 17:03

No, like we've been rooting for the Spurs.

SPEAKER_03 17:05

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_13 17:06

We've been rooting for the Spurs since the Knicks playing the Thunder. And they and before that, I've been rooting for the Spurs too. I ain't rooting for them just because a matter of fact, if we talking.

SPEAKER_03 17:17

And then I'll and then I'm rooting for the underdog. I'm I'm considering for real. Right. Because a lot of people really is expecting the Knicks to win for real.

SPEAKER_13 17:25

Right. And another thing, I have to admit, um, we don't even have enough hatred against the Knicks because not a lot of y'all didn't even root for the Knicks.

SPEAKER_03 17:37

Man, for sure.

SPEAKER_13 17:38

It's the most Knicks fans I ever seen since I've been watching back. I didn't know Knicks had so many fans.

The Missing Footage And Cover-Up Talk

SPEAKER_13 17:44

So while D talking, it's a lot of Knicks fans coming out the woodwork.

SPEAKER_03 17:48

Coming out them fucking sewers and shit.

SPEAKER_13 17:50

One boy John, he from New York. He's been rooting for wherever LeBron been at. He been rooting for the Warriors. I didn't even know he rooted for the Knicks. Now he's posting on social media. He got his son all in the Knicks jersey.

SPEAKER_03 18:04

Looking like Spike Lee and something. Yeah, they're looking like Corsai Spike.

SPEAKER_13 18:10

I've been rooting for wherever LeBron been at. He rooting for Miami, rooted for the Lakers, he rooted for the Warriors. I never heard him root for the Knicks.

SPEAKER_03 18:18

Man, this dude Knicks out there. I have like just but for real, for real, though. Like, like not even like like just not even like all shit talking aside. Jalen Brunson, a dog. Oh, he is. He's a dog. And then it's like that's what I was telling people. I'm like, the only way the Spurs is gonna beat them, they got to run them out the gym. Yeah. Because they chemistry, that's a different type of chemistry. They got that, they got they got them three dudes that they didn't went to college together and met before that. So they chemistry is different with Mikhail Bridges and uh what's the name? Jalen Brunson. Oh, and Josh Hart. So they that's a different type of dynamic. It's like they know where they're gonna be at, like the back of their hand. So they game play is different. Then you got Mitch. Mitch ain't no slouch.

SPEAKER_12 19:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:14

And he's seven foot. You seen he was able to keep Wimby at bay and keep his pinky intact. Because he had to have surgery on his pinky. Like Mitch a dog. Then they got OG from Toronto. OG Anubi. He ain't he ain't shit to play with. So no, the Knicks got a squad.

SPEAKER_05 19:35

But yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:36

They've been sweeping shit. Like, no, I we I respect the Knicks for sure.

SPEAKER_13 19:43

Yeah, yeah. They got they like a team that you can't hate on. I mean, they are real old school, like just a chemistry basketball team.

SPEAKER_03 19:51

Yeah, so when it when I'm rooting for the Spurs, I'm I'm considering just rooting for the underdog. Because I know it's a good chance that the Knicks probably gonna win.

SPEAKER_13 20:02

So yeah, y'all, but it's definitely a sad story.

SPEAKER_03 20:06

Yeah, that's that's yeah, it if her I I really think if her family could have got there sooner, it's it's a it's something could have been interjected, yeah, and something would have been able to happen for real.

SPEAKER_13 20:18

Yeah, they didn't put they didn't give no real pushback. Yeah, they didn't. They took they took too long to even, I mean, I ain't gonna say that well, they just took they didn't even take too long, they just never did it. They didn't go overseas like they sub, like they should have. They was over here, you know, doing a lot of complaining, and I was we were saying it then, like, man, I ain't trying to, you know, take a dump on the family, they already going through it, but damn, y'all gotta go.

SPEAKER_03 20:46

Y'all gotta go hard, man. You gotta go hard for yours.

SPEAKER_13 20:49

You gotta go hard, you got to go. I would have been every minute and every day that went past, I would have been knowing. Oh, they they over there cleaning up everything, paying up. Man, the man, you all this ain't even in the merit. You all the way, he was comfortably covering this man. You thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of miles away from anybody who would care about Ashley. He didn't even have to sneak and do it. Pay cut call his boy who owned the hotel, his boy who owned the hotel, know everybody. You know, the hotel owner know and got a relationship with everybody. He paid him X amount of dollars. And I'm I'm telling you, if I was to guess his friend who owned the hotel, man, wiped all that shit clean. Because he had something in the game too. He didn't want his uh, he didn't want his his uh what you call it, his um his hotel to have bad press and you know, and affect tourism by saying that, you know, we done had a murder here. So not only did, of course, McCann have uh motivation to to cover some shit up, but the hotel owner did too. you know they don't want to they don't want to have violence and and and and all that that's i'm telling you that's tied to the footage that's gonna mess that's gonna mess up they you know their tourism yep and see and see that's why you ain't even seen no you know in the mainstream you ain't seen no real footage yeah they they held all that down they didn't want no bad press coming to the thing and by being over there see if over here for the most part they would have got pressed for that footage you know by then like even because you know like you know how them news articles go when they be like for the missing people then she was last seen walking through this corridor and then the video stops right like you don't got nothing like you ain't got no video of her going that's a whole you ain't got no video of her going to the pool right let's see yeah so that that that's all the way sketchy all the way sketchy bruh so yeah y'all that's the update um it's a rap they they not they're not uh going with pursue no charges old boy McCann is getting away with it and that's that so sad news to report but that's what's going on so the Ashley Janay just to be clear the Ashley Janae case is over with closed the Tanzanian authorities say it's a rap so it is what it is and maybe it should be a lesson learned just going forward anybody watching this or watch that case if anything happened to anything anybody your loved ones take your ass onto the scene spring into action you got to spring you got to spring into action like the way just like the way Damon dash teeth flew out the sprung teeth is tumbling yeah they were tumbling the way they just tumbled out you got to tumble onto the scene man like Damon dash's teeth you have to you can't sit in there and just be chilling you know damage dash he had he had drank that slippery ass orange juice and then didn't know you can't that orange juice ain't good for dentures no man it fuck up the it fuck up the grip of the pot yeah the grip the grip that's like oil and water man man so yeah sad sad sad but it is what it is another thing before we get into Michael Jackson because I'm gonna get all worked up the way they with my boy Mike we ain't gonna go there we're gonna give it a two seconds because I do want to talk about or just mention that they saying Drake might have a big joker up his sleeve on on on Jay Z.

Lesson For Families In A Crisis

SPEAKER_13 24:32

And man Drake beefing with everybody man first he fucking with sauce and then he managed they say Drake Drake Drake they say Drake thinking about dropping that that alleged sex take that Beyonce had back in the day with Pimp C that that that everybody been talking about for yeah man I remember hearing about that

Drake Rumor About Jay-Z And Beyonce

SPEAKER_13 24:54

yeah so if y'all don't know pimp c uh uh was um what is it uh what's his group uh yeah the Underground Kings UGK Pimp C and Bum B and uh Pimp C was one of the biggest artists in in Houston back in the day he you could say as far as Houston he was the Jay Z of Houston back in the day he was that big to Houston so back then they say Beyonce him and Beyonce used to be messing around and and it was well known that that that they had a tape together and uh they all from Houston and then when Jay Z hooked up with Beyonce uh uh Pim C ended up mysteriously dying and and the story kind of went away and he actually died on Jay-Z's birthday so all this stuff is coincidence or what but it is kind of creepy and so that tape had been buried and people hadn't talked about it in a while but C Tuck said he heard people talking about it it was big it was a big story well with the recent developments of Drake and Jay Z beefing and Drake needing a victory he needed victory like coming off of the Kendrick Lamar uh he uh Kendrick Lamar uh handed Drake's ass to him on a platter and and destroyed him and so now with the streets are saying Drake is desperate for a victory but he needs a victory over a heavyweight and Jay-Z is definitely a heavyweight so they're saying that Drake is has plenty of motivation and is pondering dabbling with this Beyonce sex say that would be crazy what you think about that Z Dug I I wonder well like what what would have like really provoked it though what what for Drake to do that yeah well what they saying is the beef and he trying to have a guaranteed victory but I mean but is it I don't know I don't know I mean I can't I ain't but I I ain't about to undermine nobody outlook on other man hey if he if he feels the need to go go there yeah I wouldn't go there yeah I wouldn't go there that because I mean just out wrap him and do this and do that that's kind of but you know to me that's like low yeah like if you're gonna keep it like rapping just keep it rapping you ain't gotta be doing all that extra shit because then that that's what situations can people start getting killed.

SPEAKER_03 27:37

You feel me and the shit starts getting real sticky people start catching pneumonia yeah that's what I said that's a hell of a that's why I'm only bringing it up because that's a hell of a rumor story shit and I know she probably like damn I catch astray from this shit yeah just if it being talked about but it's so many people who would you know the the the Beyonce label Jay-Z it's so many people that would go hard if something like that happened I don't even know if Drake would want to even open that door yeah you know what I'm saying like that's that's I I I wonder like if if he if he doing like pulling out footage and stuff like that I wonder like what what would somebody try to use to get the ups on him on Drake yeah right yeah because that's if at this point we both we playing dirty pool uh I would wonder like then like what like well I mean but why even I don't even know like why even stoop to that right right now we talk we talking about like man why you you ain't got to stoop stoop like handle y'all business whatever y'all likes and dislikes is man iron them out if it ain't if when you come to the table if you ain't able to man just part ways cordially right right right right right I mean you know you mean I mean if it get disrespectful you know you you catch a fade or something but other than that it come on now all that extra shit and trying to get dig up dirt on people and all that like it it you you can be you can be using your time way more productively definitely and I ain't even telling you what to do with your time if it was me I would yeah I would I would try to figure out a way to use my time more productively for sure for sure for sure for sure for sure what they what they in there let's see what the comments is saying he punked himself when he filed the lawsuit sure did Denise he sure did gerald said hey let me you know what hey look I gotta put I gotta put Gerald Gerald seen the safe that J Prince put it in yeah he know the combination copy of the take look like Gerald I tell y'all Gerald don't miss shit Tinko said drop that video uh what else what else D said Drake needs therapy he's going down anyway Pearl what's up Pearl Pearl the Pearl Pearl come in and say good morning you guys good morning Pearl it's crazy motherfuckers been talking about them damn uh diddy tapes I'm like man I'm like oh yeah I'm like y'all seen that he's like yeah you like y'all you seen I'm like no I ain't watched I'm like oh y'all some nasty motherfuckers yeah y'all been tuning in y'all been tuning in the micro diddy micro diddy say man so let me see uh go ahead hit the hit the donation link y'all what's going on joining join joining your oh okay I got the I see the puff passers is puffing and and passing I see the puff passers are puffing and passing go ahead and puff and pass it's Friday you ain't got nothing to do what what's smoke what's

When Rap Beef Turns Dangerous

SPEAKER_03 31:43

Mokey say you ain't got no job to do you ain't got shit to do puff puff pass with the flow show no filter I see uh elise and tracy have already got started go ahead and tap that tap that donation so I can give me some puff puff pass buy me a coffee or you could just do the YouTube uh super chat support the show ASAP ASAP ASAP who gonna be the first one to donate today who gonna be the first one to donate today or at least got some uh shirts too I heard at least said it was some some problem with the shirts but she got some shirts so y'all check out at least see if she got a shirt for you check it out yeah so let's go ahead and slide over to my mother my dog thank you tracy for the 499 super chat five dollar holla everybody show tracy some love for showing me some love right now in the comments I ain't had I ain't I ain't had that combo Tracy the the the the the reefer in the coffee I ain't had I ain't had that kind of reefer and the coffee I ain't I ain't like I ain't no coffee person I'm not no coffee like no coffee related drinks like iced coffee nothing none of that shit right right right I ain't I just ain't it ain't that I ain't never really fucked with I don't even drink Red Bulls or no shit like that yeah I drunk Red Bull one time and I crashed like I I was asleep for like that was the that was good ass sleep but I was asleep for like it felt like 11 12 hours I'm like what the fuck and I I don't even fuck with that shit no more well I only had it once but I'm like yeah I don't I don't I ain't never been no coffee type motherfucker and they say it's like coffee good for you yeah like just regular coffee not all that other triple time mocha lock it like and all that other shit regular she knows yeah so uh they messing with our boy y'all and it's getting on my fucking nerves Michael Jackson remember we was talking about the whatever the fuck man that documentary got the internet pissed the hell off I ain't watching that shit nah I ain't watching the clips I know some people that did and they was just talking about like how the like the different interviews I'm like I'm like man no I I I ain't watching that shit nah nah the clips is all over juice says try the juice with the smoke try to try try the juice with the smoke huh coffee is actually good for your liver Tinko says she tried she

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SPEAKER_03 34:51

had to turn that bullshit off so they've been I'm about to just expose the the type of shit they've been doing in this documentary uh which is foul but they gotta be exposed and in order to expose it we got to talk about it um first of all they've been taking stories that didn't mean shit and trying to time the Michael Jackson that's the first thing so let me tell you uh about one of the stories so one of the stories was I believe it was a guy named Frank Tyson I believe his name was Frank Tyson he was supposedly being somebody that Michael befriended as a kid and then he turned into like his an assistant who lived I believe at Neverland Ranch um and so uh uh is this it right here so he he he knew or or his former publicist which his name is uh Vincent uh uh what is his name Vincent Amen uh he said that when all the um the investigation was going on with Michael Jackson now this all a legend but check this out how the type of shit this documentary is doing so Vincent Amen uh who was Michael Jackson's former publisher said that when when when the when the uh investigation was going down when Michael Jackson was being investigated for the child shit which he was found innocent of by the way not guilty not guilty uh vincent says that he record he he

Netflix Michael Jackson Documentary Backlash

SPEAKER_03 36:37

uh frank tyson who was the assistant started emptying out stuff out of his place he had his own little I guess little crib at at uh at a neverland ranch or whatever okay so he was emptying out he he said he he had he had gave the puppesses a Nike bag or his stuff and the puppet said he saw a Nike bag and re and video himself going through the micro bag I mean through the bag he goes through the bag now mind you this is Frank Tyson's bag on his property inside of Neverland ranch I guess he had his own little home or guest house or some shit he says he he was going through it they show him the video thing and then and then he says he found uh a magazine that was like a dirty magazine where they they sold child corn so he said when he found it he said he called Frank Tyson immediately or or or confronted him about it whether he called him or in person I he just said he confronted him about it and said what's up with this child corn stuff or whatever so he says Frank Tyson tells him that that's just a phase that me and Michael Jackson went through now they take that now this is his belongings in his place and and all he got to do is say me and Michael and now you got this public on the document how the hell does that work and now y'all ain't y'all just gonna take that y'all gonna take that shit and run with and run with it and it's his stuff it's Frank Tyson stuff.

SPEAKER_13 38:22

Ain't got shit to do with Mike ain't got shit to do with Mike it's literally you like finding something on somebody else and they just say yeah me and Mike was doing and then now now that go to the whole documentary and how does that this dude was if this dude is a pervert for one of course he's gonna try to say something and bring another big name into it so you don't say nothing. You know me or think nothing like oh this something me and Mike will do I mean you know and then that's not only one but it's plenty of interviews like that where like we even watch and I saw this this is just a clip I saw I saw this clip on Instagram but it just shows you how much of a hit piece this is like how are you gonna tie this to Mike this this is his stuff his belongings he packed away and just because he said and if that's the case why he didn't bring it where why wasn't in the evidence why you holding on to it if it's an investigation going on and you found X Y and Z you mean to tell me you didn't tell the authorities didn't tell the authorities it don't make no damn sense it don't make no sense and they also did things in this documentary okay where they had

Examples Of Editing And Spin

SPEAKER_13 39:45

uh manipulate like took excerpts out of the interview just to make it look look worse on mic instead of just playing the full interview in its entirety or playing the parts like I'm gonna I I know that I knew they were gonna do like that that ain't this ain't nothing but a a they a slander piece. Mm-hmm and then that shit appropriate for a man to check this out man to be doing that so here's a here's an example it's a start for them because it's jerking someone who wants to really help now this one right here I'm gonna start it over this is the the documentary and this is the real interview and they're talking about sharing a bed watch the part they leave out appropriate for a man a ground man to be doing that how do you respond to that to start for them because it's jerking someone who wants to really help people to scare the core this yeah this my this was the uh the document no you think in the reality of the room or a spend house here where you could have stayed but no yes I have we have guests but whenever kids come here they always want to stay with me they never want to stay in the guest and I have never invited them in my room they always just want to stay can I stay with you tonight I go if it's okay with your parents if you can now come on now so how the fuck you leave that whole entire piece out like that's y'all just trying to paint him in a bad light and in a bad light to paint him in right you talking about the sleeping bed and if you want to talk about that part okay cool but talk about leave out the fact that he asked the parents he he he slept on the floor and all of that you completely leave that out which which is right there in the same interview you literally are trying to paint a picture of a man who has been found innocent that's crazy that's a perfect example right there man this this is that is terrible so now you see why people are going crazy online man it's a lot of people boycotting Netflix a lot of people canceling it um it's not doing well only place it's doing well at is overseas and see overseas they don't know no better but but this yeah they feed into it this they say it's number one in the UK even though it ain't doing well like other places but uh go ahead C Tuck what what what what's your thoughts on that man that shit that shit is very distasteful like that that shit is just terrible and I don't know why they just keep trying to try that the demand gone mm-hmm like long gone like why why y'all keep trying to tarnish this man legacy see what they talking about in the comments they probably doing they they mad because you know his music back uh charting again yeah and like like number one like globally and all that all that type shit so they probably mad about that they damn sure mad about the movie and that it's a part two coming yeah yeah exactly I think they I think they probably gonna if if they can't fit everything in part two that might end up being a three part like uh movie right even at least his bedroom is two stories it just like I said they they they doing whatever they can to to shit on Michael Jackson's name and they've been doing it forever and it's really get to the point where I'm just glad that the public is finally tired of the shit. Yeah public is like it's like a few you know you got those few people feeding into it but it's they they very few and for the most part 90% of the world is like leave Mike alone and I can't wait for this fucking uh this to die out this little this little verdict uh verdict whatever the fuck it's called matter of fact let me the guy who was saying that stuff let me just put him on blast too just to show is it this guy hold on let me see the bag and um I'm driving home and I felt something here it is I know Michael this the guy who was supposed to be a publisher publicist and I trusted Frank but they were raiding other Jackson associates houses and properties Frank cleaned out his house of anything that came from the Neverland ranch and he hands me a Nike bag I took the bag and um I'm driving home and I felt something's a little suspicious I said let me take a look in this bag I started taking videos now he's driving home and just got a bag and said something suspicious.

SPEAKER_01 45:01

Come on and then start taking a video while you drive to document this I open the bag I start looking at the uh a magazine start flipping fluid and there was a sharpie circles around the video ordering section someone's wanted these videos circled the ones they want these videos which are children that are naked some with family some just naked children I I I I confronted Frank I said you know Frank what is this this magazine I said because you know there's circles around video with naked children he says that's just a phase that Michael and I went through you know he circled the videos that he wanted I ordered them and it was a phase that we went through watched them together I heard that it was in disbelief I was very upset my inclination was after finding this and and and and and sitting there thinking about it was that Frank is so close to Michael that he's covering up from that was a defining moment for me. That was the moment that hit me so hard where I realized that there's something going on here.

SPEAKER_03 46:26

So it never crossed your mind that Frank was lying that's how you know is that he being the dumbest shit I done as a choice huh that's the dumbest

Public Reaction And Media Motives

SPEAKER_03 46:36

shit I done heard man like come on now y'all really reaching and really going out your way to to really defamate this man's character man that that that shit is trash.

SPEAKER_13 46:47

Yeah you a guy just say you don't have no proof that it's Michael's it's in this dude's belongings and shit he trying to get rid of and and he says that and you immediately just take it as the gospel and say yeah it was at that point when I realized that just because somebody said that like you had no come on man he could have said it was you and him that did it like he if you just throwing names out there and and and that just shows you man people are just say will say anything yep and a lot of times they say anything but the right thing crazy Tracy said I say Pee Wee Herman is full of sparkle colors what we got on there no more money to the Jackson family.

SPEAKER_03 47:47

Diane Damone isn't talented enough to make it as a reporter be real all she has done is inside was inside of this yeah Tracy said oh my god look at that nasty Pete pedo and then somebody she said why is this nasty ass stealing from MJ yeah they they they definitely man need to leave my boy alone people on social media are going crazy give me the indication that he's interested in the moment that accusations are cruel yeah what what else we got on the uh uh been going on T Tuck man I uh just even speaking on that type I think I think they should do a uh Janet Jackson uh movie yeah I think that I think that I think it'll do go crazy I think that'll be dope and call it Jenny yeah people really get to see how dope oh like especially on the art on the artist side how dope of an artist she is for real yeah yeah no then and then just like see more or more of her

Janet Jackson Idea And Side Notes

SPEAKER_03 49:04

right right right right right right right they definitely uh especially with with her not even being in the Michael like I understand that you know she had her own own shit but that shit was weird just not like not having Janet in that motherfucker Yeah to do the Jackson story without Janet is like come on now I guess how the war looking did I did I see something about the war gas.

SPEAKER_13 49:49

Anybody you know people people praying at the gas go down for Father's Day I said the gas can go down for Father's day. Okay

NBA Talk Knicks Spurs And Rivalries

SPEAKER_13 50:38

Miles said you gotta Miles say you gotta move on loving you is easy leaving you is the hard part He said what he said loving you is easy leaving you is the hard part who said that Miles Garrett for real yeah yeah man we we we sad about that one yeah man I see it like I said man he didn't he didn't did enough for us man go ahead and get you a ring my boy you can come back after you get the ring like then you you didn't you done got your you you done got what you was looking for you can come back and finish it out we'll work welcome you all upper arms right right right right right right hey he and the squad they got I can see him going there and getting one quick man I know that's why Jerry Verse probably like man what the fuck I go from about the I go from being a step away from winning one to the to the rebuild situation right who you who you got tonight you got the spurs I got the spurs tonight sorry Denise I got the Spurs tonight Wimby Wimby Wimby you I mean your mama yeah for sure I call him wimby your mama no I'm there I'm there when be where your mama is gonna take on oh I wanna see yeah it'd be it'd be crazy if they did do it if they if they did if they like pulled out the series I I told everybody it was gonna be a good ass series though who y'all got in the comments man y'all got wimby where your mama in the Spurs tonight or y'all got munching brun munchkin Brunson who who who who hey look if Brunson pulled this off and they do win though man Brunson like he gotta be top five in the league yeah he got oh and then no and then like as far as Knicks players man y'all or the fans y'all better shit y'all better put that man a statue in that motherfucker that'll be the first chip since 73 and he might be the coldest 6'2 motherfucker in the in the been around no for sure no he he definitely get it done because he definitely get it done they normally your best player on your team can't be 6'2 or be that short you know for a championship team you know what I'm saying like remember even Iverson couldn't win it you see Dame Lillard couldn't um yeah Steph they don't I think he's a little taller so they don't really consider step like 6'3 six or six three six three six four six two and under that's like Isaiah Thomas yeah like back you know isaiah thomas was that height maybe a little bit even shorter than Brunson but around you know in that height air uh and he won championships this this team almost reminds me of the Detroit Pistons in a way just they don't play as dirty you know they ain't they play cleaner yeah but they they'll put your ass though huh yeah they'll put you on your ass they ain't playing they will put you on your ass especially if you considering what they get away with now like it's you can't do all that shit Detroit was doing so they really the Knicks are really like the new Detroit Pistons the new bad boys because they got the same type of squad they got a nice like squad where everybody got game led by a 6'2 guard who who hell on wheels i mean like I said that's Isaiah Thomas yeah no for sure like yeah man so hey yeah definitely ain't nobody hating on him you know because I really just care about my calves for real yeah I ain't got no dog in the fight yeah I ain't I ain't gonna be heartbroke if the Knicks win I uh whoever win I'm gonna feel the same way I'm just rooting for Wimby because outside of my team I've been kind of rooting for Wimby period like just he the new face I like the way I like the passion Wimby played with that's what I really like I like that he really cares he really go hard you know what I mean we met oh for sure we that's what we've been missing man and it's really changing now because what happened was I think LeBron I love him but I think he made it a little too friendly or something because he was the best player yeah like as far as rivalries yeah because by him yeah I can I can see I can see what he does say there. Yeah because you got to think about it when like Colby or Jordan or whoever was the best they was like I wouldn't say dirty but kind of dirty they ain't fucked with you till the game was over with exactly whereas they really fucked with you LeBron the only person I that I know on that level who just been kind of regular. You know what I'm saying? I ain't saying nothing wrong with it but when you the leader of the league that has that certain type of intensity yeah so they so they're gonna follow your lead you know I'm saying so LeBron wasn't LeBron played hard and LeBron wanted to win every game but he didn't dog you and cut you out and and and and do like them win be like that win be throwing elbows when be talking shit yeah when when when uh when uh Shea got that award winby flat out came out and said that him getting that MVP award motivated me to put 40 on their ass yeah see LeBron would have never said that LeBron would have gave more the politically correct answer like well it was just it was I was it was good to see you know him get his accomplishment or something just cool. Yeah LeBron never fed into that shit so like I said I ain't really down on LeBron for that I'm just saying it's a it's a difference but now with Wimby and Shay um SGA in this new era these people ain't nobody trying to be cool like they used to think about it these they going at it like even even like uh motherfuckers like Dylan Brooks. Yep yep yep yep yep yeah it's a new it's definitely a new era and that's why the ratings is up yeah people care when you care people care about our show because they know me and C Tuck really give a fuck about what we're talking about and who we standing up for that's why people tune in and like it if exactly didn't think we gave a fuck nobody would tune in. You know what I'm saying? So just in general people care when you care and so now that all these teams is really fighting for it and caring and really playing it's giving us a better game to watch and more people are interested so like even right now the Knicks is whooping ass everybody knows Wimby wanted we know both these teams want it we tuning in yeah we tuning in and that's what I'm I'm glad that NBA is back to getting back to that because that's why the ratings was down man that we didn't as fans didn't feel like a lot of players cared a lot and so we didn't tune in.

Final Picks And Weekend Sign-Off

SPEAKER_02 58:16

So put it in the comments y'all before we get out of here who y'all got tonight let's see who they're going with we Spurs or Knicks 53 years is a long time D you know how we felt when we got our championships I already know grandma grandma Kathy said seven foot five should be illegal on that note look swine go ahead grandma Kathy Yes the float of float no filter out eight thirty eight to taste the float off no filter out eight thirty eight to taste yes the float so no filter out eight thirty eight no means the top tape the float off no filter out eight thirty eight no means the top tape wait away giving you these dots in the fingers make it so back cover no city shout out to the wake up and the coffee group from you to almost get about the cross in the comments thank you for putting extra eyes on the contest yes the flow no fill out 830 eight and tap in the float job no fill out 830 eighty and tap in the float job no filth eight thirty a l measter to float no fill no fill eight thirty a l measter time tap in as always we love y'all have a great weekend but we are owl