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7 Ways to Tell If Your Sales Energy Is Off

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This podcast episode identifies that sales performance is driven by an intangible "sales energy" that influences how potential buyers perceive a professional. When this internal alignment is missing, representatives often experience forced interactions, a tendency to pitch too early, and an increase in difficult objections. Furthermore, a lack of genuine curiosity or fluctuating confidence can lead to a stagnant pipeline and the avoidance of necessary challenging discussions. To rectify these issues, the author suggests a return to basics by prioritising active listening and procedural structure over high-pressure closing tactics. Ultimately, the text argues that long-term success in B2B environments relies on the quality of the process rather than just the final outcome.

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SPEAKER_00

What if I told you that um doubling your team's call volume today might actually be the exact reason your pipeline is bleeding revenue?

SPEAKER_01

I mean it sounds completely backwards, right?

SPEAKER_00

Trevor Burrus It totally does. But uh if you are a sales leader, a hiring manager, or an executive who's just staring down a really frustrating quarter, you know this scenario all too well.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, absolutely. You log into the CRM dashboard and the metrics, they look fantastic.

SPEAKER_00

Right. The activity dials are just completely green.

SPEAKER_01

Aaron Powell Exactly. Your reps are making the calls, they're sending the follow-up emails, the LinkedIn messages are just firing on all cylinders.

SPEAKER_00

But then you look at the closed one column, and it is just stagnant. The raw effort is there, clearly, but the revenue isn't following.

SPEAKER_01

And it is arguably the most perplexing, sleep-depriving situation for anyone responsible for a revenue engine. You have the output, you have the hustle, but that translation into actual business value is mysteriously broken.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And the instinct in that moment, almost universally, is to just push the machine harder. You know, you tell the team to make more calls, uh tweak the cadence, maybe run a new promotion.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Just hit the phones harder, which is usually the worst thing you can do.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. So today we're taking a deep dive into a completely different explanation for why that revenue engine stalls out. We're looking at a really foundational article by Wynn Nathan Davis published by the sales experts.

SPEAKER_01

It's a great piece.

SPEAKER_00

It really is. The piece explores why true sales success isn't just about rigid strategies or, you know, perfectly optimized playbooks or raw numbers. It's heavily dependent on this intangible, almost invisible factor that Davis calls sales energy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, sales energy.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, let's unpack this because I mean, energy can sound a little bit uh a bit woo-woo for a B2B sales floor. We aren't talking about drinking five espresso and hyping yourself up in the mirror, right?

SPEAKER_01

No, not at all. Yeah. And I am so glad you brought that up because the term is frequently misinterpreted as just like mere enthusiasm or aggressive charisma.

SPEAKER_00

Right. The typical finance bro stereotype.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. What when Nathan Davis is really talking about when he says sales energy is alignment. It is about your presence, your intent, and your consistency when interacting with a buyer.

SPEAKER_00

Making sure you're actually present.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It is about how you position value and crucially, how buyers perceive you on a subconscious level.

SPEAKER_00

That subconscious level is huge.

SPEAKER_01

It is. When results start to slip despite high activity, the sales experts frequently see that the root issue isn't a lack of technical skill. It's not a broken market. It's a fundamental misalignment in this energy.

SPEAKER_00

And, you know, before a deal ever hits a spreadsheet, before it ever becomes a glowing green line on a forecast report, it starts as just a simple conversation between two people.

SPEAKER_01

Literally just two people talking.

SPEAKER_00

Right. So let's look at how this misalignment actually sounds in the real world. According to the source material, the very first indicator that a rep's energy is off is that their conversations start to feel incredibly forced and mechanical.

SPEAKER_01

Right. When a salesperson's intent is misaligned, usually because uh they are feeling massive internal pressure to hit a quota, you immediately hear it in the interaction.

SPEAKER_00

The vibe just shifts.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. The fluidity of a natural business conversation completely vanishes. The rep finds themselves clinging to their discovery scripts like a life raft in a storm.

SPEAKER_00

It's like they are trapped in their own heads. You can almost hear the gears turning as they try to remember the exact phrasing of the next qualification question.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they're not even in the room anymore.

SPEAKER_00

Totally. And because of that cognitive overload, they completely stop actively listening to the person sitting right in front of them.

SPEAKER_01

What's fascinating here is the psychological mechanism at play. Buyers have an incredibly highly tuned sixth sense for this exact lack of authenticity.

SPEAKER_00

They can smell it a mile away.

SPEAKER_01

They really can. They might not use the terminology of sales energy, but they feel the biological response to it. When a conversation lacks responsiveness, the connection instantly weakens.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_01

The buyer realizes they aren't a partner in a mutual dialogue. They're just a prop in the salesperson's rehearsed monologue.

SPEAKER_00

It reminds me of the absolute worst networking events. You know the ones. You're standing there trying to have a genuine chat about your industry, and the person across from you is clearly just waiting for their turn to speak.

SPEAKER_01

Aaron Powell Oh, the worst. They're just scanning the room or staring blankly.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. They aren't genuinely trying to understand your business. They are just looking for a microscopic pause in your sentence so they can launch into their elevator pitch.

SPEAKER_01

And that leads directly to how the rep actually behaves on the call. Because they aren't listening, genuine curiosity is completely replaced by a sense of urgency.

SPEAKER_00

Right. They just want to get to the finish line.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. The rep stops trying to diagnose the underlying issues the buyer is facing and instead starts moving way too quickly into pitching the product.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, the article highlights this as a major symptom. Instead of taking the time to genuinely explore the customer's specific situation, the rep replaces deep discovery with these incredibly shallow solution lead questions.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the solution lead approach is the classic hallmark of bad sales energy.

SPEAKER_00

What does that actually sound like though? Like contrast that for us.

SPEAKER_01

Sure. So a genuine discovery question sounds like walk me through how your team is managing this specific workflow today. It's open, it's curious, and it invites the buyer to share their reality.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01

But a solution lead question sounds like are you struggling with X so that you can buy our software that does Y.

SPEAKER_00

Oh wow. Yeah, that's entirely transparent.

SPEAKER_01

It is. The entire conversation rapidly centers on the seller's quota rather than the buyer's problem.

SPEAKER_00

And you can feel that panic from the rep. They have a manager asking for pipeline updates, so they try to force a square peg into a round hole just to get to the demo phase faster. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_01

And the buyer immediately puts their guard up.

SPEAKER_00

It's like a doctor prescribing a heavy medication before even looking at the patient's chart or asking where it hurts. You know, the patient is going to reject the treatment, not because the medicine is inherently bad, but because the diagnosis never happened.

SPEAKER_01

Precisely. The buyer feels targeted, not supported. And that sets a fundamentally adversarial tone for the rest of the relationship.

SPEAKER_00

Which introduces the recall effect.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. That internal misalignment from the rep suddenly manifests externally as real, tangible friction in the deal.

SPEAKER_00

So because the buyer feels like a target, their natural defense mechanisms kick in. Suddenly the rep is facing a massive spike in objections, and those objections become incredibly difficult to handle.

SPEAKER_01

This is a critical diagnostic moment for any sales leader listening right now. When the initial energy is misaligned, the natural friction of a complex B2B transaction is severely magnified.

SPEAKER_00

Just blows up.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. The buyer hasn't felt heard, the unique business value hasn't been adequately established, and as a direct result, resistance builds significantly earlier in the process.

SPEAKER_00

But hold on, let me push back a little here. If I'm a sales manager looking at a dashboard, I expect my team to face objection.

SPEAKER_01

Sure, of course.

SPEAKER_00

A buyer pushing back on price or implementation timelines or asking about a competitor. I mean, that is just Tuesday and B2B sales. So how do I differentiate between a normal, healthy objection and this toxic, bad energy objection you're talking about?

SPEAKER_01

Aaron Powell That's a great point. If we connect this to the bigger picture, you are absolutely right that objections are the lifeblood of a sales cycle. You want engagement.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Apathy is worse than an objection.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. But there is a massive structural difference between a logistical objection and a foundational objection.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, break that down.

SPEAKER_01

Aaron Powell When your energy is aligned and you've prioritized understanding the buyer's world, an objection is usually just a request for more information.

SPEAKER_00

Like they're trying to figure it out with you.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. It's the buyer saying, I want to do this, but help me figure out how to justify the cost to my CFO.

SPEAKER_00

They are asking you to help them solve a mutual problem.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. But when your energy is misaligned, when you've been forcing the conversation, rushing the pitch, and pushing those shallow solution lead questions, the buyer fundamentally does not feel understood.

SPEAKER_00

So the objection changes.

SPEAKER_01

Completely. Because of that bad energy, their objections aren't about the logistics anymore. They are a manifestation of a lack of trust.

SPEAKER_00

Ah, I see.

SPEAKER_01

The value hasn't been established. So a standard logistical question about budget suddenly morphs into this insurmountable deal-killing roadblock. They aren't asking for help, they're looking for an exit.

SPEAKER_00

That reframes the issue entirely. It's not that the objections are new or unusually tough. It's that the foundation of trust just isn't there to support resolving them.

SPEAKER_01

Precisely.

SPEAKER_00

And because reps are suddenly encountering this heightened adversarial resistance on every single call, they start to alter their behavior to protect themselves. They begin actively avoiding challenging conversations altogether.

SPEAKER_01

It is basic human psychology to avoid pain. Strong performance, particularly in enterprise environments, absolutely requires the ability to lean into discomfort.

SPEAKER_00

You have to ask the hard question.

SPEAKER_01

You really do. A great salesperson has to be able to challenge a buyer's assumptions. They have to discuss budgets clearly and unapologetically. They have to address difficult, complex topics head on. Right. But when a rep's energy is off and they are already feeling a massive wall of resistance from the buyer, there is this huge tendency to just avoid these crucial moments of friction.

SPEAKER_00

They just want to keep everything pleasant. They want to be liked. So they keep the conversations at a totally surface level. Yep. They leave the discovery meeting, they update the CRM to a 50% probability, and they think, hey, that went great. The vibe was awesome. No one yelled at me.

SPEAKER_01

But in reality, all they've done is kick the can down the road.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. They never actually ask the hard questions about procurement, so they are just delaying inevitable decisions and ultimately reducing the quality of the deal.

SPEAKER_01

Which is incredibly damaging to the forecast. A surface-level conversation might feel emotionally safe for the rep in the moment, but it actively sabotages the deal's momentum.

SPEAKER_00

It creates a vacuum of information.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. A vacuum where both parties are operating on assumptions rather than verified facts.

SPEAKER_00

So we've seen how this energy creates friction with the buyer, but let's pivot and look inward for a second. Let's talk about the internal toll this takes on the rep's psychology, their workflow, and the hard metrics that executives actually care about most.

SPEAKER_01

It's a vicious cycle.

SPEAKER_00

It really is, because this cycle of forced conversations and avoided reality takes a massive toll on a rep's confidence.

SPEAKER_01

However, it should be relatively resilient. Sure. But when sales energy is misaligned and the rep is constantly hitting these walls of resistance, you see them start aggressively second-guessing themselves.

SPEAKER_00

Overthinking everything.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, absolutely. They overthink every minor interaction. They draft a simple follow-up email 10 times before sending it. And most tellingly, for a sales leader, they begin relying heavily on external validation.

SPEAKER_00

What does that look like on the floor, practically speaking?

SPEAKER_01

It looks like a highly experienced rep suddenly needing their manager to constantly tell them they are doing a good job.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_01

Or asking a manager to join every routine call because they no longer trust their own instincts. They just completely lose their autonomy.

SPEAKER_00

And buyers absolutely pick up on that, don't they? Even if it's super subtle, a buyer can sense when a rep doesn't actually believe in their own process.

SPEAKER_01

It smells a bit like desperation.

SPEAKER_00

Which ties directly into another major symptom. When confidence drops, reps start focusing way too heavily on the outcome, you know, the close rather than the process of getting there.

SPEAKER_01

When you are lacking confidence and feeling the pressure of a stagnant pipeline, you start desperately looking for the finish line.

SPEAKER_00

You just want the win.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Focusing too heavily on the outcome creates an immense amount of internal pressure, and that pressure entirely changes how you engage with buyers.

SPEAKER_00

How so?

SPEAKER_01

Instead of confidently guiding the buyer through a structured step-by-step evaluation, the rep tries to skip steps. They push for decisions too maturely. They become highly reactive to every little email the buyer sends rather than proactively managing the relationship.

SPEAKER_00

Here's where it gets really interesting based on the article from Wynn Nathan Davis. Yeah. You would logically think that if a rep is desperately trying to close and they are making a hundred dials a day, they might stumble into a few deals just by sheer law of averages. But the source explicitly states that the pipeline actually slows down.

SPEAKER_01

It completely stalls.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Even if the sheer volume of activity remains incredibly high, the outcomes undeniably decline.

SPEAKER_01

This raises an important question about how sales organizations evaluate performance. If you are exclusively measuring the quantity of activities, the number of calls made, the number of emails sent, the number of LinkedIn requests, you are entirely missing the qualitative degradation of those activities.

SPEAKER_00

Quality over quantity.

SPEAKER_01

Always. Sales energy dictates the quality of the outreach.

SPEAKER_00

So a hundred bad dials are actually worse than 20 good ones because you are actively burning through your total addressable market with bad energy.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. Pipeline health is almost always an early indicator of this deeper energy issue.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_01

Think about a rep with a high activity volume but a stalling pipeline. If you listen to their call recordings, you don't hear a peer-to-peer business consultation. You hear someone reading a hostage negotiation script.

SPEAKER_00

That is a great way to put it.

SPEAKER_01

When the focus is solely on the outcome, the rep sabotages the quality of the process. Conversely, when energy is properly aligned, the rep's attention is placed entirely on executing the process itself.

SPEAKER_00

They trust the system.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. They know that if they run the discovery with integrity and curiosity, the outcomes will naturally materialize.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so we have deeply diagnosed the symptoms. We have mapped out exactly how misaligned sales energy destroys a deal.

SPEAKER_01

From start to finish.

SPEAKER_00

Right. From the initial force conversations and shallow solution lead questions to the massive spikes in foundational objections, the avoidance of hard budget talks, and finally, the stalling pipelines and shattered confidence.

SPEAKER_01

It's a lot.

SPEAKER_00

It is a lot. Now, the million-dollar question. How do hiring managers and sales leaders actually fix it? And spoiler alert to everyone listening, the answer isn't just hit the phones harder.

SPEAKER_01

Definitely not. The article has a dedicated section on how to reset, and it's remarkably grounded.

SPEAKER_00

Grounded is good?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Resetting sales energy is absolutely not about increasing activity volume, and it isn't about adopting a completely new sales methodology. It is about returning to the absolute fundamentals of human interaction in a business context.

SPEAKER_00

Let's deliver the actionable takeaways here because this is where the rubber meets the road for our listeners. The first major takeaway from the source to fix this energy crisis is this: shift the focus entirely to understanding before selling.

SPEAKER_01

This requires a conscious, deliberate mental shift from the rep before they ever pick up the phone or join a video call.

SPEAKER_00

So what's the goal then?

SPEAKER_01

The primary goal entering the conversation shouldn't be how do I pitch my product features today? It must be how deeply can I understand this person's operational reality?

SPEAKER_00

How does a manager actually coach that though? I mean, it sounds great in theory, but reps have quotas. The clock is ticking.

SPEAKER_01

You coach it by changing how you do pre-call planning and post-call debriefs. Instead of asking your rep, what's the path to close, you ask them, What are the top three systemic issues this buyer is facing and how does it impact their bottom line?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that completely changes the focus.

SPEAKER_01

Right. If the rep can't answer that, they haven't earned the right to sell yet. When you prioritize understanding, the rigid scripts naturally fall away, and fluid responsive conversation returns.

SPEAKER_00

That is highly actionable. Okay, takeaway number two from the reset section. Prioritize clarity over persuasion. I love this one because it takes so much emotional pressure off the salesperson.

SPEAKER_01

It really does.

SPEAKER_00

You don't have to be a smooth-talking, charismatic persuader. You just have to be incredibly clear.

SPEAKER_01

In complex B2B environments, clarity is infinitely more valuable than persuasion. Persuasion often feels manipulative, right? It feels like you are trying to convince someone to do something against their nature. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_00

Right. It feels sales-y.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. Clarity, on the other hand, builds immense trust.

SPEAKER_00

Aaron Powell Can you give me an example of the difference just so we can really picture it?

SPEAKER_01

Certainly. So a persuasive approach sounds like our software is going to revolutionize your workflow and give you a massive return on investment. You have to buy it. Classic pitch. Right. But a clarity-driven approach sounds like based on what you told me earlier, your team spends four hours a week manually entering this data. Our tool automates that specific transfer, effectively returning those four hours to your team. Wow.

SPEAKER_00

The energy difference there is night and day. Yeah, the second one isn't even a pitch. It's just a clear reflection of reality.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. If you can clearly articulate the buyer's problem back to them better than they can articulate it themselves, you have already won their trust. The seal becomes a logical conclusion, not a forced event.

SPEAKER_00

And the final actionable takeaway for a reset: maintain rigid structure in your process while staying wonderfully consistent in how you engage. So what does this all mean for a sales leader? Like, how do they actually implement this without completely ripping up their carefully crafted enablement playbook?

SPEAKER_01

It means you don't need a new playbook. You need a new mindset applied to your existing playbook. The structure of your sales process, the initial discovery phase, the technical demo, the executive proposal that rigid structure provides, the container.

SPEAKER_00

You still need the container.

SPEAKER_01

You absolutely need that container. But how you engage within that container must change. It must be consistent, calm, and deeply curious.

SPEAKER_00

It's about bringing the right intent to the perfectly designed process.

SPEAKER_01

Precisely. Small, highly deliberate adjustments in how a rep engages create a massive ripple effect.

SPEAKER_00

Like what?

SPEAKER_01

Choosing to ask one more clarifying question before eagerly offering a solution. Choosing to directly ask about a budget constraint rather than avoiding it because it feels awkward.

SPEAKER_00

Right, leaning into that discomfort we talked about.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. These micro adjustments lead to massive, measurable improvements, especially in B2B, where consistency and trust are the actual currency of sales success.

SPEAKER_00

And when those small adjustments are made, when a rep stops selling and starts understanding, you watch the pipeline unblock.

SPEAKER_01

The conversion rates naturally improve.

SPEAKER_00

And all those visible metrics that leaders obsess over, they just correct themselves because the underlying human interaction has finally been repaired.

SPEAKER_01

It's a beautiful thing to watch.

SPEAKER_00

To summarize what we've unpacked today from the insights provided by the sales experts, true sales success isn't just about what you do or how many times you repeatedly do it. It is fundamentally about how you do it.

SPEAKER_01

The energy you bring.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. The signs we discussed, whether it's those incredibly forced mechanical conversations, the sudden reliance on shallow solution lead questions, the spike in unmanageable foundational objections, or a pipeline that has ground to a complete halt despite your team making a hundred calls a day.

SPEAKER_01

They're all connected.

SPEAKER_00

Right. These aren't just isolated performance hiccups. They aren't just a run of bad luck. They are glaring, systemic symptoms of a fundamental disconnect in sales energy. It's a shift in presence, a shift in intent, and a breakdown in consistency.

SPEAKER_01

It is a critical reminder for the industry that while data and CRM metrics tell us what is happening on the sales floor, understanding sales energy tells us why it is happening.

SPEAKER_00

You just can't fix it with volume.

SPEAKER_01

No, you simply cannot fix a qualitative problem with a strictly quantitative solution. Increasing the volume of bad conversations only scales the damage.

SPEAKER_00

Which brings us to the final incredibly provocative concluding thought straight from Wynn Nathan Davis's piece. He writes, Performance starts before the numbers.

SPEAKER_01

Such a powerful line.

SPEAKER_00

I want you, the listener, to really mull that over today. Look at your own team. Look at the stalled results. Look at the dashboard that has you stressed out, and ask yourself one final question. Is the strategy really broken? Or is it simply a matter of how you and your team are showing up within it? Yeah. If the x-ray of your sales pipeline is murky, maybe it's time to stop checking the machine and start looking at the energy in the room.

SPEAKER_01

It's a paradigm shifting question for anyone responsible for building and scaling revenue.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. And if you are ready to take action, to rethink your approach and dive deeper into building your ideal sales hiring strategy to secure the top 1% of sales talent, you need the right resources. Definitely. Whether you are looking to define the exact success profile you need before committing to an expensive search, or you want to explore transformative resources like the Rainmaker Sales Mastery Program to help your existing team return to those core fundamentals we discussed today. The path forward is clear.

SPEAKER_01

Aligning your energy and hiring talent that natively understands that alignment is the ultimate competitive advantage in modern B2B sales.

SPEAKER_00

We highly encourage you to visit thesalesexperts.com to learn more about how to navigate these exact challenges and fundamentally transform your sales success. Take that step, evaluate your team's energy, and watch how quickly the metrics begin to follow. Thanks for joining us on this deep dive.