Episode 40: Domestic Violence Awareness Month (DVAM): Statistics, Shame, and a Silent Social Epidemic

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This episode is not an easy one — but it’s necessary and needs a trigger warning.

October is Domestic Violence Awareness Month, and this conversation hits deeply personal territory. In this solo episode, I open the month by naming what so many of us have silently carried — the truth about intimate partner violence, the staggering statistics behind it, and the stories that refuse to stay hidden any longer.

You’ll hear me speak not just as a coach and advocate, but as a survivor, a mother, and a woman who has decided that silence is no longer protection — it’s participation.

What’s Inside This Episode

The real numbers behind domestic and intimate partner violence — and why they demand a systemic, not individual, solution.

How violence and abuse ripple across generations, workplaces, and communities.

The unspoken question we must stop asking (“Why didn’t she leave?”) — and the one we must start asking instead (“What can I do to help?”).

My personal story — raw, unfiltered, and shared for the first time.

An invitation to join a revolution of awareness, empathy, and action.

This month, Girls Who Recover is dedicating every episode to raising awareness, sharing survivor stories, and highlighting the organizations and women leading change — beginning with Safe Harbor of Eastern Kentucky.

If you’re asking, “What can I do?” It's this: Donate directly to Safe Harbor HERE to support women and families heal and rebuild their lives after abuse and violence. Whatever the gift, big or small, will help provide safety, shelter, and hope for survivors and their children.

And if you’ve experienced intimate partner violence and are ready to tell your story, I want to hear from you.

Your truth could set another woman free.

Resources 

Donate to Safe Harbor of Eastern Kentucky 

The Statistics Shared Today

National Domestic Violence Hotline: thehotline.org

 or call/text 1-800-799-SAFE (7233)

Call to Action

Don’t look away. Don’t press pause.

Listen. Share. Act.

Together, we are breaking cycles, amplifying truth, and helping women everywhere recover not just their safety — but their power.

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Welcome to the Girls Who Recover podcast with Dana Hunter Fradella, where incredible women just like you, go to transform life's biggest setbacks into your most powerful comebacks so that you can live a life you. Love. I'm your host, Dana Hunter Fradella, transformational coach and founder of Girls Who Recover, and my mission is to pull back the curtain on our mistakes, failures, shame and personal disasters, and light the way for how to use those to create your biggest and most gorgeous comebacks. Follow the show now. Grab your iced coffee and turn up the volume for girls who recover. Let's light it up. hello, gorgeous. Welcome back to the next episode of Girls Who Recover. And this one is hitting really close to home, even more so than many of the others because this month is about domestic violence awareness, also known as intimate partner violence. And I was in conversation with a woman who's been my mentor. She is part of my family and she is a woman that has taught me so much and I've looked up to for so long. And the call was actually an invitation to come and speak at a conference that she is spearheading. And I gratefully was like, yes, this is part of my dream. I would love to come and speak at this conference with all of these women. And she said. And just nonchalantly. Oh yeah, this coming up month, October is domestic Violence Awareness month, so we've got a lot of activity around that. She's an executive director for Safe Harbor of Eastern Kentucky. You're actually going to hear this week an interview that I did with her. And it occurred to me, not from the mind, but from the soul space, that we need to shift the direction for the podcast for October to really bring awareness, light, and love into this space of domestic violence. And so that is gonna be the. The theme for October. I can already feel like the deep sorrow that I've experienced over the last week, just like digging into this and listening to different stories and, some of my own personal experiences are coming up. And so this month does not promise to be an easy month. And so if you're following along, please do send love along the way. And just know that I love you so much and just keeping in mind that like we are so capable of doing hard things and so capable of walking each other through hard things and also so capable of contributing to solve the hard things, of this country and of this society. And so this is really an invitation for us all forward to. Close the gap and solve the, solve this problem., Because as it turns out, it is a systemic problems and therefore requires a systemic, likely female led revolution to not only make this stop, but to create a better world where women know their value and they're clear about what they're available for, and men are clear on what is expected of them as. Humans in the world and as partners in relationships and as fathers and as husbands, and as sons. And we're gonna get real clear on all that this month, I promise you. And I will say I'm feeling a little bit unhinged and I'm not gonna apologize. For, because this is a really serious emotional complex issue. And I'll be honest with you, what I expected was, okay, we're gonna have a few lessons on let's do talk about the statistics, which I am gonna share with you some statistics. And I'm gonna have conversations with some experts, and then I'm gonna hear some stories of women who transformed their setbacks into comebacks. And it's all gonna be great. We're gonna change the world. What I deeply believe is possible, and what I didn't real, what I didn't expect is how hard it is. How hard it is to just be with the truth. To hold space for a story that's devastating and traumatic. Having not even been in the story, just holding space for it. So I really just wanna love all over this month in a way that's real and does not bypass any of the triggers. I'm just gonna offer a trigger warning, not just for this month, but for the rest of this podcast. Some of the things that you are gonna hear in these conversations are really traumatic and terrible. We're gonna be done allowing that part of society to stay shielded in shape. We're gonna be done with that. And so I encourage you not to press pause. I encourage you not to look away. I encourage you to feel the feelings that you experience as a result of hearing and holding space for this month and come with me. Come with me. So what can you expect? I don't even know because we just opened Pandora's box. And so you can definitely expect a conversation or two from people who work in the field who are experts and who've been doing this a long time. You can expect long form stories of women who have experienced significant violence at the hands of their parents and partners and how they've transformed that into. How they've alchemized that into real power and presence and love in their own lives for their families and their future. You can expect short stories. It was on a conversation yesterday that was supposed to be a coaching call and she said, I'm so grateful that you're covering this. I have experience. And I was like, how about we talk about that? You give voice to it and we will have the coaching call another time. And she said, okay,'cause this feels really important. This feels really important. So that was a shorter conversation. And if you have experience with intimate partner violence or domestic violence, and you have a story to share, I want to hear from you because this month is gonna be more than four episodes. It's gonna be as many stories as I can capture and share. If you have someone that you love who's experienced and you want to tell your story from that perspective, I wanna hold space for that. If you are an expert or know an expert who is a woman. Please connect us because this is the month where we unmask the shame around domestic violence and intimate partner violence. Because listen, we have got to be done with this. We have to be done with it. And what I've found is a lot of us take an individualized approach and like loving care and healing for the individual. But this is probably not a surprise to you, but I've heard so many stories. And so learned so much just in a short period of time that there's something in the motherfucking water and it's not an individual problem and it's not a woman problem. It's literally a cultural, social, patriarchal problem. And I joke and rant about that, but here it's oh no, this is a crisis. Like we're in the middle of a crisis and we're not offering. We're not offering the resources with the momentum that we actually can. So the invitation here is that if you are listening now, I'm calling you forward to be a part of this conversation. To be a part of this movement, to create peace in our families and peace for women, and peace in world, and peace in marriages. Okay. And I thought like maybe I would share my own experience, but I just don't think I can right now. So let me come, let me go to, let me go back to the head. I'll share my experience like when I have a little bit of a beat. But I wanna say that there, this issue is very complex and I do not claim to be an expert. I can barely even allow myself to remember my own personal experience with it, which is like coming up so hard right now. TBD on that we're gonna offer grace to all the stories that are here and that are ready to surface. Okay? So without further ado, I want to read you some statistics about domestic violence and intimate partner violence. Also, if I haven't said it I'll say it again. This is definitely could be triggering, especially if you're a human being with a soul. There are a lot, so just hang with me. I'm gonna read them and I want you to just notice notice patterns. Notice your own feelings. If you have an experience. If you have a story and it wants to emerge, allow it. If you have strong emotions, allow them. This is from the National Domestic Violence Hotline. And you can find that@thehotline.org. I'll drop it in the show notes. This is also a resource 24 7 resource for support, information, and advocacy for people in abusive relationships. And here's, I'll just read this. Relationship abuse is ugly even, and especially when it comes from the people we love. The more informed we keep ourselves and others, the more prepared we'll be to recognize and stop abuse when it happens the following. Domestic violence statistics help inform our work. So here's some general statistics. They're all research based and the sources can be found on this website. An average of 24 people per minute are victims of rape. Physical violence or stalking by an intimate partner in the United States. That's over 12 million men and women over the course of a single year. So again, this is not just a women's issue, it's a human issue. Nearly three in 10 women, that's almost 30% and one in 10 men. That's 10% in the United States have experienced rape, physical violence, and or stalking by a partner. And reported it having a related impact on their functioning. Okay. So these are the people who experienced it and reported, and you can imagine, and this is my experience, most of this stuff never even gets reported. Okay. Just under 15% of women. And I think I'm gonna stick to the statistics for women. I wanna say this is not simply a women's issue. But for the case of girls who recover, we're gonna center women for now. So just under 15% of women in the United States have been injured as a result of intimate partner violence that included rape, physical violence, and or stalking by an intimate partner. And again, these are just like the worst kinds of abuse in the stories you'll hear of emotional abuse, mental abuse, financial abuse, all kinds of unspeakable abuse. One in four women, 18 and older, have been the victim of severe physical violence by an intimate partner in their lifetime. One in four over one in three women have experienced rape, physical violence, and or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime. One in three. Let me just take a beat on that. Almost half of all women and men in the United States have experienced psychological aggression by an intimate partner in their lifetime. 48% on both. Women ages 18 to 24 and 25 to 34. So I think that means 18 to 34 Gen generally experience the highest rates of intimate partner violence from 1994 to 2010. Approximately four and five victims of intimate partner violence were female. This next one is interesting. Most female victims of intimate partner violence were previously victimized by the same offender at rates of 77% of women aged 18 to 24. 76% for women, ages 25 to 34 and 81% for women, ages 35 to 49, right?'cause we're getting older and we're. Or experience rep experiencing repeated victimization violence. Okay, so repeated violence, which means it's not just happening once. Okay, so that was the easy part here. It gets a little a little harder. So this is about sex violence, sexual violence. Nearly one in five women have been raped in their lifetime. And remember, these research statistics are based on reported. And so having been a women's studies major and having had the experience of sexual assault I know personally that most incidents don't ever get reported. Nearly one in 10 women in the United States have been raped by an intimate partner in their lifetime. 81% of women who experienced rape, stalking, or physical violence from an intimate partner reported significant impacts short term or long term like injuries or symptoms of PTSD. That's post traumatic stress disorder. More than half of female victims of rape reported being raped by an intimate partner. And 40%, almost 41% reported being raped by an acquaintance. That just reminds me of when I was in college at Vanderbilt, I was part of a women's lobbyist group, and at the time they were, this was 2002 ish, we were lobbying Tennessee. To pass a bill that made husbands eligible to be rapists. And what that means actually in different ways, is it made wives legally able to charge their husbands with rape, because at that moment in Tennessee, if you were married and you were a woman, you could not claim that your spouse raped you, even if that was the case. 50% of rapes are happening by an intimate partner and 40% happening by someone that we know. I'm gonna skip that one. Okay. Here's some stalking statistics. Some of the stories that I've heard involve stalking as well, so we'll include this one in six women. Have been a victim of stalking at some point during their lifetime or in which they felt fearful or believed that they or someone close to them would be harmed or killed. So pets or children or people that they loved have been threatened to to be harmed or killed. Two thirds of female stalking victims were stalked by current or former intimate partners. The most common stalking tactic experienced by victims of stalking was repeated unwanted phone calls. You'll hear Carrie talk about missing 47 calls from her abuser, unwanted phone calls, unwanted voice messages, or unwanted text messages, and estimates suggest that 10% of women have been stalked by an intimate partner during their lifetime. Oh, okay. I'm gonna go for it. I just can't hold back. This is hard though. Here's child statistics, and I wanna read these because what I'm understanding more and more is that adult survivors of abuse are often child survivors of abuse, children witnessed. Violence and nearly one in four intimate partner violence cases filed in state courts. So violence is happening and children are witnessing 22 per 22%. Of these 30 to 60% of intimate partner violence perpetrators also abuse children in the household. So it's not just the girlfriend or the wife or the female partner, it's also kids. 40% of child abuse victims also report experiencing domestic violence. I'm gonna say that again. 40% of child abuse victims also report experiencing domestic violence as an adult. One study found that children exposed to violence in the home were 15 times more likely to be physically and or sexually assaulted than the national average. So violence begets violence because we repeat what we know. It's just like a human part of it. Being human is we repeat what we know and we what we know. What we know normally comes in our first eight years, and according to the US Advisory Board on child abuse and neglect, domestic violence may be the single major precursor to fatalities from child abuse and neglect in the us. Okay, so last but not least, no, actually that's, we have three more categories. Let's talk about teenagers and young adult statistics. 9.4% of high school students reported being hit, slapped or physically hurt intentionally by their partner in the previous 12 months. And that's really interesting because a question that I have now that I'm asked them asking the experts is we focus a lot on supporting survivors and we absolutely should do that. And also, what measures can we take? To become preventative and proactive so it doesn't happen in the first place, or we intervene in the same way that we've considered as a society how to intervene when someone experiences ACEs or adverse childhood experiences. Maybe I'll link the ACEs studies. In the show notes basically we're, we know how to intervene ish when someone experiences an adverse childhood experience, but do we actually know how to prevent, educate, be proactive around the issue of violence? Approximately one in five women who experienced rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner first experienced some form of partner violence between 11 and 17. So my youngest daughter is 10. That makes me feel really called forward. I also have some experience as a teenager and as a young woman and as a grown woman that if we can. Do better. I'm just always thinking about what is a strategic systemic way that we can intervene in that age from 11 to 17? My career has been in education and I never, I don't know about you, but I was never given a class on what domestic violence is or what it looks like or what to do if we or someone we love experience it more than a quarter of male victims of RA completed rape were first raped when they were 10 years or younger. Approximately 35% of women who were raped as minors were also raped as adults. The majority, 80% of female victims of completed rape, I think completed rape versus attempted rape. I would imagine, again, I'm not sure, but we can look that up. Experienced their first rape before the age of 25. 42% experienced their first completed rate before the age of 18, 42%. One in 10 high school students has experienced physical violence from a dating partner in the past year. So it's not an adult problem, it's a systemic. Problem. Most female victims of rape, 69% physical physical violence, rape, and stalking by an intimate partner had their first experience with intimate partner violence before the age of 25. Okay. That makes me feel like we can and should be doing something. 40%. 43% of dating college women report experiencing violent and abusive dating behaviors, including physical, sexual, digital, verbal, or other controlling abuse. Nearly one in three college women say they've been in an abusive dating relationship. Let me say that again for you. One in three college women, you're like, you don't need to say it again. I'm in the three, I'm in the one I am her. Say that they've been in an abusive dating relationship. 52% of college women report knowing a friend. I'm gonna call that as a hundred percent. Okay. Knowing a friend who's experienced it, 58% of college students say they don't know what to do to help someone who's a victim of dating abuse. 38% of college students say they don't know how to get help for themselves if they experience dating abuse as a victim. Okay? So that also gives me an assignment to compile a list of resources to share with you as a part of this series, res resources to get help, both if you were in this situation, and also if you love somebody who's in a situation and over half of college students say, it's difficult to even know that it's happening. One in five college women has been verbally abused by a dating partner, right? So different types of abuse. There's verbal abuse, there's mental abuse, there's emotional abuse, there's sexual abuse, there's physical abuse, there's financial abuse, there's social abuse, like all sort. Of abuse and victims of digital abuse and harassment are twice as likely to be physically abused, twice as likely to be psychologically abused, and five times as likely to be sexually coerced. So this is interesting. This is new since when, since I was, dare I say, I was small digital abuse wasn't yet a thing. Just one in five victims say they experience digital abuse or harassment at school during school hours. Most takes place away from school grounds. So there is a beautiful book that I wanna recommend called The Anxious Generation, and it is all about technology and kids and smartphones and the internet and social media. And a lot of it does cover harassment and abuse digitally. So if you are a parent, please read that book. Even if your kid is two, read it. Approximately 84% of victims are psychologically abused by their partners. Half are physically abused, and one third experience is sexual coercion. So forcing your partner to have sex, okay. Mental health statistics survivors are three times as likely to meet the criteria for PTSD. Survivors are two times more likely to develop symptoms of depression and three times more likely to develop a major depressive disorder. Survivors are three times more likely to engage in self-harming behaviors. So my experience with self harm is there's self harm in a million different ways. There's cutting, there's pulling out your own hair, there's starving yourself, there's overextending yourself. It physically, and again, I'm not an expert on this, but if you can think of ways to harm yourself burning all the things, survivors are three times more likely to have suicidal thoughts and four times more likely to attempt suicide. Survivors are three times more likely to be diagnosed with an anxiety disorder. So we experience it and then we get a diagnosis. That seems really fair. Survivors are six times more likely to have a substance use disorder? Yes. Can we, can I get an amen on a weekday? Six times more likely. Okay. Here is, here are some, I have two more categories. One is violence at work and one is about guns. I'm gonna have to bring God into this one. Okay. Workplace statistics, current or former intimate partners accounted for nearly 33% of women killed in US workplaces between 2003 and 2008. In 2005, nearly one in four large private industry establishments reported at least one instance of domestic violence including threats and assaults. 44% of full-time employed adults in the United States reported experiencing the effect of domestic violence in their workplace, and 21% identified themselves as victims of intimate partner violence. 64% indicated that their ability to work was affected by violence. Yeah. I would imagine 57% said they were distracted. 45. 45%. Lived in fear of being discovered and two in five were afraid of an unexpected visit by their intimate partner, either by phone or in person at work. 70% of US workplaces don't have a formal program or policy to address workplace violence. 70% have no policy or program. 96% of employed domestic violence victims experience problems at work because of the abuse, right? So it's not just an at-home family issue, it's an everywhere issue. Okay, last but not least, let's talk about guns. I think guns should be illegal. You disagree That you get to have your opinion and fuck guns. And here's why. Women in the US are 11 times more likely to be killed with guns than women in other high income countries. 11 times female intimate partners are more likely to be killed with a firearm than all other means combined. And finally, the presence of a gun in a domestic violence situation increases the risk of homicide for women by 500%. More than half of women killed by gun violence are killed by family members or intimate partners. Okay, so I know oftentimes we come to this podcast like, oh, I'm gonna be inspired, and you will be. I'm gonna be inspired. I'm gonna hear the story of a massive comeback from the setback. But today I just want us to acknowledge what a systemic motherfucking problem this is. And I hope that you feel at least part of what's coming through on this end about how serious this is. And my promise to you is to be a learner, to be a truth teller, to share the truth and the experience of the women who come forward. If you'd like to come forward, but you don't want to use your name, you can absolutely remain anonymous. That's possible here. I also promise you by the end of the this month to share a resource to help. The last thing I'll do is make a call to action, not only for you to listen to the podcast in its entirety this month, but to also put your money where your mouth is. And so if you say that you're appalled and you your heart really wants to do something to help, we have a way for that. In the next episode, you'll hear an interview from the executive director of Safe Harbor of Eastern Kentucky, and I'm dropping their link to donate and contribute to their cause to support women and families who are escaping from domestic violence and who were receiving holistic supports, both in emergency situations and long-term care. And it's given all, supporting all the things that they need to heal and leave the situation and start a new life. So if you're feeling called forward, you wanna do something with what you're feeling, even if it's$2 or$5 or$5,000, I'm gonna give you a link to make a difference and solving this problem, or at least healing the problem as we decide to solve it on a social issue. Please reach out. There's a text number at the bottom of the show notes. You can find me on Instagram or Facebook if you have a story to tell and you wanna be included in this month's series. I would love to meet up for a Zoom conversation and share it on the podcast because what I've learned about our own experiences, that our own shame and our own secrets, is that when we tell the truth about our experience, we set each other free. Having said that. I'm gonna tell you, I wanna tell you just a brief story about my own experience. I'm not quite ready. I don't never shared this before, and I don't have it pitch ready. I haven't practiced it, and I hope none of us ever have our story pitch ready like this. But I was in a relationship for years with a person who had a very violent temper. And I thought that because I had a drinking problem and also had a behavior problem per him, although. Still debatable about my oppositional defiance disorder. I thought it was my fault. And so I'm gonna just tell you I'll tell you one story. This is a trigger warning and I don't tell the story so that you'll feel anything but a call forward to end this problem and to create more peace and harmony in your. Life and in the life of the people that you love, and for the women and families supported by safe harbor. Okay? To protect. I don't know why I would do that, but just because it feels right now we're gonna keep this anonymous, so at some time I've said, I'll tell you that it was before I got sober. I was in a long-term relationship with someone who had a violent temper. And one story that exemplifies this is I drove to this person's house and I was upset with them for some reason that people get upset in relationships and I also was drinking. And so I arrived at this person's house and we got into an argument. And it became extremely violent. And so he punched me and threw me down and threw me against the wall and kicked me. And then he took a knife and he used it to cut all my clothes off. And so I didn't have any clothes and I'm being, i'm intoxicated. I'm also very wounded and unable to really physically move. And then he goes to his driveway and gets in his car, and then he uses his car to to bash into the back of mine just again and again. And then he drove away. And I wanna be able to tell you that oh, that was of course, the last time I talked to him. Because,'cause why didn't she leave, right? Isn't that the question you're asking? Not if not my story. Someone else's story. Why didn't she leave? And I hope that you never have to fucking ask that question again.'cause it's the wrong question. And Ann Perkins and I talk about what the right question is, but in case you don't make it to that episode, the question isn't, why didn't she leave? It's what can I do to help? That's the question. So I'm gonna say it again. We're never gonna fucking ask somebody why they didn't leave, okay? Because if you haven't walked in the shoes, then you're gonna need to strengthen your empathy and compassion muscles and ask instead, what can I do to help? That's the question, because ultimately I didn't call the police. I did go back to the relationship. Things like that did happen again, and it took what it took in order for me to leave that relationship. Maybe we'll make that a longer personal episode as I bring that into my own level of consciousness.'cause a lot of times, and you'll hear this from the stories of women who are on the podcast are, we have suffocated that story so deep inside of us in hopes that it would never escape, that it would never see the light of day. Because then what? Who, what would you think? What would that make me if I were to let that out of Pandora's box? And that's another reason why I was like, I'm going live on Facebook right now just to make sure that this happens. Because another part of me is please don't publish this. Don't do this. You don't know what's gonna happen. Like this is too personal. Like clearly feel emotional, like you're gonna probably cry in front of people. And that's why I'm like, I'm on in my Facebook community right now, which if you're on the podcast, come hang out in the girls who recover Facebook community. We have a blast, don't we? Love y'all. But just to say oh, no, I'm not going back. Like I'm, when I say I'm ready to help us be done with shame, I'm ready to help us be done with shame. And I'm going first and I hope that you'll come with me. I hope that you'll come with me because in order to alchemize shame into our greatest power, we have to be willing to be brave, which means take action and be scary at the same time. You cannot be brave unless you're terrified. So I hope that this month makes you a little braver, and I hope that this month makes you a little bit more compassionate, and I hope this month invites you to ask the question and then act on it. What can I do? What can I do to help? And I'm gonna give you all sorts of ways, okay? But the first one is you're gonna go click the link in the show notes. You're gonna contribute to safe harbor of Eastern Kentucky. That's what you're gonna do. Do it right now as an act of solidarity, as an act of commitment that this is not okay with you, even though you've never experienced it or you have. And then the next call to action is in the next episode, it might be to reach out and say, I'm ready to help my story. And I'm ready to hold space for you. All right, that's it for today. You can expect, who knows, I might be publishing multiple episodes a week. I hope that you're here for the ride. Please do give me feedback. It's so nice to hear from you who are following along with the podcast. I see the number of downloads and we're going up up. We're top 5%. That's because of you, you're listening. And if you could take the extra step of giving us a five star, get writing us a review and please reach out and offer me your feedback. Good, bad or ugly? I want it. I'm here for it. And in case you haven't heard it today, I wanna tell you. From the depth of my motherfucking heart, I love you. I'm so proud of you. I'm so grateful for you, and I believe in your ability to create a life you love and to help other women do the exact same thing. We'll see you in the next episode. Oh, whoa. Did you just feel what I felt? There is a whole lot of that and more to help you create miracles in your life. On upcoming episodes of the Girls Who Recover a podcast now ranked in the top 5% of podcasts globally. If you've built a strong recovery foundation and you're feeling ready to break through life's glass ceilings, let's make it happen together. In the show notes, you'll find a link to book a free one-on-one conversation with me and in that conversation. 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