I am Enough

Enough as You Are: The Elemental Truth of Self-Acceptance

Lyn Man at Earthaconter Episode 22

What if your struggles with prosperity aren't about strategy or effort, but rather having the wrong archetype in charge? 

This insightful conversation with Lisa Michaels reveals how understanding your elemental nature might be the missing piece in your journey to feeling enough.

For over thirty years, Lisa has guided feminine leaders to connect with their intuition through alignment with natural forces. What began as a download in 1999 evolved into a framework for understanding how the elemental forces —earth, air, fire, and water— shape our consciousness and determine our unique pathways to prosperity and fulfilment.

Lisa explains how these elements subdivide into the twelve astrological archetypes, creating what she calls our "soul blueprint." Rather than a one-size-fits-all approach to success, she demonstrates why different people thrive using different methods based on their elemental makeup. Through fascinating analysis of host Lyn Man's chart, Lisa reveals how a predominance of air energy combined with Sagittarian fire explains Lyn's lifelong pattern of knowledge-seeking and occasional burnout.

The most transformative insight comes when Lisa describes how our "inner council" of archetypes need to work in harmony. When the wrong archetype takes control we find ourselves struggling against our own nature. She shares how putting her detail-oriented Virgo earth energy in charge of prosperity (rather than her expansive, consuming Sagittarian fire energy) led to profound change in her own financial wellbeing.

This conversation offers a refreshing alternative to conventional self-development narratives. Instead of trying to become someone entirely different to succeed, understanding your elemental composition helps you to ensure your inner archetypes work together harmoniously and create prosperity in a way that supports you. 

You'll leave the conversation with a deeper appreciation that you truly are enough exactly as you are—in all your elemental uniqueness!

If you are ready to discover your own elemental nature you can find out more at  lisa-michaels.com.  

Visit lisa-michaels.com/unleash for a free guide to unlocking your inner feminine prosperity power.

Thank you for listening and taking the time to explore our podcast.

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Lyn:

Welcome to I Am Enough, the space where we explore journeys back to our forgotten birthright of enoughness, to draw on natural wisdom, along with awareness, acceptance and compassion, to support each of us on that journey and embrace our wholeness, despite what society tells us. Each one of us is enough exactly as we are. Size, he tells us each one of us is enough exactly as we are. My name is Lynn Mann and I'd like to welcome you to this space where we explore enoughness, people's journeys along the path to feeling I am enough, and look at what can support each of us on that journey.

Lyn:

Hello and welcome to another episode of I Am Enough the space where we embrace our homeless. So today I have with me Lisa Michaels. Now, I met Lisa probably about five years ago and we were both doing some work with vedra hamilton's genius. You and lisa was one of those people that it's just beautiful personality, easy to get on with, and I did some some work with her and I remember what your course was. It was about developing the course, wasn't it? And it's interesting in that things have evolved for both of us since then.

Lyn:

So creativity, purpose, teaching and the rhythms of nature are basically at the core of who Lisa is, and for over 30 years she's been guiding feminine leaders to connect with all aspects of themselves, tap into their intuition, aligned with the forces and rhythms of nature, through her writing, mentoring and programs. What she saw in both herself and other women was a pattern of trying to first prosperity, having the knowledge, the tools and the practices to create wealth, but something still wasn't flowing. What Lisa realised was that one of her archetypes was in control and causing financial problems. From her knowledge, experience and intuition, lisa saw that it was about putting the right archetype in charge, or feminine wisdom, and this led led to profound change in her relationship with prosperity, impacting all aspects of her life. Now, for Lisa, prosperity means much more than financial prosperity. It embodies time, well-being, relationships, purpose being, nature-aligned and living in a sustainable way for self, community and the planet. So Lisa now shares this knowledge with other feminine leaders.

Lyn:

You can find out more about Lisa, her programs and her products at lisa-michaelcom. So, lisa, thank you so much for being here today. I'm really looking forward to having this conversation, because I'm also very curious about this and what brought you to this. So thank you.

Lisa:

Thanks for having me, lynn, and it's just such a lovely thing to get to spend some additional time with you. I have just admired you and enjoyed you ever since I met you you.

Lisa:

I have just admired you and enjoyed you ever since I met you.

Lyn:

Oh, thank you, that's very kind of you. So I'd just like to start off. When I was reading through what I'd written as your introduction and I took some of these words from your website and it was that pattern of trying to force prosperity that really the words jumped out. So personally for you. What were the stories that were beneath that feeling that you had to force prosperity?

Lisa:

Well, first of all, I think we really live in an environment that encourages a more masculine way of doing things, which that is thinking and doing, as opposed to really being steeped in your inner feminine wisdom, you know, really being embodied and really connected to the feminine essence. And there's lots of different. There's 12 different types of feminine essences. But I started off way back in 1999. I asked a question one morning when I was staying with a teacher of mine, or one night before I went to sleep, about why I had been studying all these different modalities and I wanted to understand the pattern, because I was a ballet teacher and I had I was really good at patterns. I could not see this one.

Lisa:

And the next morning I woke up and I had this download like instantaneous. I've never had anything like it before or since, and it was about that I've been studying the elemental forces of creation and how they function in your consciousness, and that was what started the whole thing. Oh, that's an earthy teaching. Oh, that's an airy teaching. Oh, I see that's water. That's why I've been studying that and I get it about fire. And then later, that's what led to this understanding about prosperity and how there's different ways and different approaches to prosperity, and if we go at it as in one size fits all, we're likely to get frustrated because it's not one size fits all. We're likely to get frustrated because it's not one size fits all.

Lyn:

I like that, just taking it back to the different elements and just looking at the fact that something is an alpha teaching or a fiery way of doing something, and I guess we can argue that, if we really think about it, that we can see certain characteristics showing up in people. So, out of those elements, what did you see in yourself?

Lisa:

Well, do you just mean in general, like what do I have in my own makeup? Yeah, what?

Lyn:

was it that when, I guess, when you kind of saw that and you're starting to see that, yes, that's, that's enough. We're doing things. Enough about learning. What were you seeing as to how you worked, and how did it help you understand more about yourself?

Lisa:

well, there, in the very beginning, it was just that I had been studying these different pathways. So what's what I think is kind of usual is that maybe we spend a whole lifetime or two. Is that maybe we spend a whole lifetime or two, you know, if you believe in multiple expressions of a soul, like studying a particular element? And there I was, like I've been really working with all of them. And let's just take air, for instance, like somebody who meditates in a cave for the most of their lifetime. They are studying and working with air and vibration and the mental realm and how the mental realm impacts everything. Somebody who maybe is steeped in, let's say and for me certainly I was a dancer earlier in life. That is all about the physical body, but yet we have this continued relationship with all of them.

Lisa:

Well, as I saw those different paths and I started to understand who I was and remember that's a long time ago now for me. I am very earthy and very fiery, so I have a combination of both of those things, so I had to learn to work with both of them. How do they fit together? How, in my inner makeup and my unique pathway, do they combine? My earthiness is very much about organization and structure. I'm really, really, really good at structuring things. That's why I was teaching people how to organize and structure their content, because that comes really naturally to me. But I also you know, the fiery part of me can get on stage and teach other people about it, or lead a 500 fellow people ballet school or being like I have that ability to show up when it's time and I need to. So those two work together in my consciousness, definitely, and there's another component about it, about my prosperity.

Lyn:

So when we get to that, I'll tell you that okay, so just coming back to because I know from having looked at your website and from we had a conversation briefly last week, that what you're drawing on now also brings in the astrological side of things. When you were back there and starting to look at it, were you just looking? Was that an element of helping you understand your earthiness and your fire? Did that come through from that then? Earthiness and fire, did that come through from back then or did you just understand it from?

Lisa:

just observing yourself. Well, first of all, the elements subdivide into the astrological archetypes. So as I was working with the elements, I began deepening my understanding. I never really understood astrology, like when I was just trying to like know about it earlier in life, I just had no real connection to it at all. But as soon as I saw it through the lens of how the elements function because earth subdivides into three archetypes taurus, virgo and capricorn and if, as you begin to understand the nuances, you see that earth really expresses differently through each one of us, in the same way water through each one of us, in the same way. Water subdivides into Cancer, scorpio and Pisces, fire subdivides into Aries, leo and Sagittarius and air subdivides into Gemini, libra and Aquarius. So there are different expressions of that element but at the core it's the same elemental function. They just do slightly different things. So then I was like, okay, I understand, this makes sense. Now I understand it. But I never had that lens before, I didn't have that framework, nobody had ever talked to me about it in that way. But as soon as I saw that and I've been working with the elements because they really do develop our consciousness, so that is our ability to function in whatever realm the element is in. So let's take air, for instance. They all work with the invisible realm. Air is in like we don't see it, but it's all around us, it's in us. It is the animating force of creation. That's what makes, if you've ever seen somebody who's either come into the world and taken their first breath or left the world and taken their last breath I've seen both you really understand what an animating force it is. This animating force works with vibration. It's like so many things around us that we don't see but we use all the time. This is the power of thought. This is the ability to direct the forces of creation with the choices and the decisions you make. There are so many ways that we use this element constantly, without awareness. But as we increase our capacity to work with it, with intention, with dedication, with devotion, with understanding what a powerful force it is, it helps us to expand our ability to really work with it.

Lisa:

And this piece that you talk about, lynn about I am enough. That's a belief system that functions in the air realm. You have to believe, you are enough. A very important. This realm of air, and likewise water, teaches us about emotional development, emotional maturity, our relationship with ourself, with other people, with money, with prosperity. These are all relational things. This is about feelings, and one of the things that I see stop people a lot is that they have old, unresolved feelings that they haven't dealt with. So I am enough or I'm not enough. Belief Impacts how you feel about yourself, and how you feel about yourself Influences how you draw things to you. How you feel about yourself influences how you draw things to you, how you magnetize, whether you're having experiences over and over and over again, because that emotional pattern has not been cleared. Every element have its, its pathway, its teachings, how you learn how to work in that realm.

Lyn:

That's why they're teachers of consciousness thank you for sharing that and I'm going to go back to you because what you shared was.

Lyn:

It really highlights the uniqueness and I think you know. Going back to what you said at the start, in that you know everything has been done. Very much we've been in very masculine times where it's sort of been about that doing and taking us away from being and not having to have on the materialistic side. But just when you're talking about the elements and how you, it was like that piece of the jigsaw just fell into place but it was. You got it in a way that then helped you to understand the nuances beneath it or how to then apply it. It's just an amazing reminder of how unique we all are and that when we can understand more of ourselves and more about what's driving us, not just from our belief system, but when you're saying from an elemental basis, from our belief system, but when you're saying from an elemental basis, it actually helps us to and it may be it helps us to accept parts of ourselves. Oh for sure.

Lyn:

Instead of trying to say I should be doing this and wondering why we struggle with it or, you know, because that's the thing, there's so many things within society that tells us we should be doing things in the same way. When you explain it, it's kind of almost like oh, ah, okay, yeah, that makes sense, yeah, and and it just so. Just from that, and you, and going back to as you say, you know that the whole concept of I am enough and it can show up either, as you say, is that a belief that can show up as the feelings, it can show up and what we do? What have you seen since you started working like this with other people and helping them to understand more about themselves? Have you seen those changes?

Lisa:

It's been profound. I mean just profound. And you know I've worked with thousands of people now and almost without fail they are like thank you, because now I really understand who I am, instead of thinking I need to be different and and to show up in a in a way that is not natural to my nature. You know, I can really. I can just be be who I am and express what I am. I call that somebody's like soul blueprint, because that's what it really is. And when you understand that, you know more how to align with what's yours and what's not. And you know I've seen it expressed a lot of different ways. I mean there's the inner feminine energy that somebody carries, and then there's their inner feminine and their inner masculine. So are those two working together? Are they working in harmony? Are they working in alignment?

Lisa:

A lot of people I've worked with they still need to claim their inner feminine women. They need to claim that archetype. Maybe it doesn't fit with what you know they grew up believing a woman should be, so they have to adjust to that. Or maybe they're projecting their inner masculine onto their partner, thinking that you know, oh, and I had this one woman. She had totally projected her inner masculine onto her husband. And her inner masculine was in this archetype that's very responsible and very much about doing things by the rules, and she thought it was him that was causing the problem, you know, because she had that projected onto him. So when she pulled it back and she said, this is a part of me, this is not my husband doing this, it made their relationship so much better because she wasn't blaming him for being the rule person and the responsible one all the time. She was accepting responsibility for that because her inner feminine was a free spirit. So these two had to learn how to both be a free spirit and be responsible and a rule follower at the same time. So that's part of the integration.

Lisa:

And then there's six more players on somebody's core creation team that make up the inner council that helps you decide something. So they need to be working together in harmony. They need to be going in the same direction. The right archetype needs to be in charge not of telling everybody what to do, but of helping the team to come into focus so that they know where to go and they're collectively going the same direction. And until people understand this and work with this, you know they can have one part of them, like this lady did, one going one way, another part going another way, and they're frustrated because they keep like being on this swing or this roller coaster, because they keep being on this swing or this roller coaster trying to figure out why these different parts of themselves want different things, but they don't even see it like that. So it's been super helpful for people.

Lisa:

I mean so helpful, so helpful, so helpful. I've trained actually a lot of people to do that. I've trained actually a lot of people to do that. So I have people who have become creation coaches and life purpose, prosperity soul guides like really work, learning to work with other people. That's just something that I felt like was important. It's not just about me sharing the knowledge. It's about making sure other people know how to share it effectively too, so that they can help. Like, no matter what they're helping their clients with, they can help them through the lens of their own uniqueness, because even if you're doing someone's books or you're a CPA or helping them dress, it doesn't matter. You need to know who they are, are so that you can help them in ways that works with them. So it's been incredibly, incredibly helpful for people over the years.

Lyn:

And I love that. What you've highlighted is actually about. It's not just about knowing yourself doesn't just help you. Knowing yourself doesn't just help you, it helps everybody around you. But also you can start to by understanding who you're working with helps them more and help by you understanding where they're coming from and seeing that.

Lyn:

And just going back to the lady you were saying with the alternatives, because every personality test I've taken, I am literally two opposites. So it's always been that and I knew. When I was told that, I was like, yeah, that makes total sense. I have this kind of earth mother side and I have this having to do, do side, and then it literally shows up and I would find I would go in a cycle. I would go from one and the other and I could tell when I was switching from one to the other. Nobody was ever able to explain that to me. It was, I just accepted it. It's just part of who I am. And, yeah, but I know you kindly took my detail and you see you were going to use part of this as an example just to understand. So was there anything that you saw that explains that?

Lisa:

Well, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely. So let's just start with your sun sign, which is what most people understand. That's the what the sun, the archetype, the sun, was in when you were born. The way I use that is it is your creation fuel. So your creation fuel is Sagittarius.

Lisa:

Okay, so that's probably the thing that you know the most about, but, like a lot of people, you may or may not actually identify with Sagittarius, but you actually have when I'm looking at your chart here, because I want to make sure I got all these pieces correct you actually also have the lens that you view everything through in Sagittarius, which means that you have probably and we'll get back to the Earth Mother part in a minute. You have probably, and we'll get back to the earth mother part in a minute. Um, you have probably kind of been on a quest for knowledge your whole life. You've probably wanted to understand things. You've probably researched a lot of things and when you, I would imagine when you get on a topic like you really want to understand it and know about it, that is that true for you.

Lyn:

I see you're shaking your head yeah, yeah that that that's interesting because, you know, even as a you know, growing up I I was majorly into to history. I would go to the library and get the outsized kings and queens of England and Great Britain books and read through them, and it was so. It has always been about knowledge and what's interesting? I think, because of that. Interestingly because there was a feeling that I never knew enough. That worked against me because it was always having to push harder and harder and to some extent then that in a way leads to exhaustion, which is interesting and there's a real point to that the exhaustion, because Sagittarius is the most expanded fire sign.

Lisa:

So Sagittarius functions like a forest fire. It burns down everything in sight, which means it's a consumptive fire. It has to have a lot of fuel to burn. So therefore, I've got to read everything, I've got to know everything, I've got to experience everything.

Lisa:

So what does happen to a fire like that? It burns itself right.

Lisa:

So if you don't understand that kind of fire and what else it means, you are going to burn out because that's that kind of fire. So with understanding that kind of fire, you can say, hey, Sagittarius, cool your jets, we need to rest. You know this is not sustainable. No-transcript.

Lyn:

So that's interesting. Just to make sure I understand that properly, it's basically looking at it from a perspective of seeing when it's ruling me, it's literally it's taking over, whereas if I can sit and look at it from a perspective of it's part of me, but it isn't all of me, so it's like seeing. Going back to what you said about having counsel, it's like seeing it as one member and sitting and working out. One member and sitting and working out okay, what do I need to draw on right now, rather than just going that everything full pelt and then going and crashing and burning and and it's interesting even for me now, at times there's almost because I know what I do I actually will hold back that part of me totally. So there's still that trying to understand everything, it comes out in a different way, because it's almost like to, because I know what will happen if I let it go. I keep away from it.

Lisa:

It's also part of your energy, so, yeah, that keeping away from it may keep you from feeling all the way energized yeah, which it does?

Lyn:

yeah, totally, because it's like, and that's the fear is, I don't have the energy to do it. So it then becomes counter. Well, yeah.

Lisa:

Now the other part of you is, the other main part of you is all air. Like there's one earth sign and we'll get to that later. This is the earth mother part. It's all air. So imagine somebody with two fiery creation team players and let's see one, two, three, four, five and five. So what do we got? Seven out of eight, now, yeah, five air signs. So what's that air gonna do that fire? It's gonna skew it right, right. So part of that is is you learning to to manage those two elements? So there's three levels and I'm just looking here. There's three levels of air.

Lisa:

Gemini is the most close in air. These are your ideas, your communication, your ability to network, your ability to be creative. There's Libra, which is our relationship to that element. In relation to others, libra is like let's be in conscious, equal relationship to each other. Let's balance things. Libra is a good mediator. Leap is a good host. You know there's a lot of expressions for that.

Lisa:

Aquarius is the most expanded air sign, like Sagittarius is the most expanded fire sign, aquarius is the most expanded air sign. This is like I have a huge cosmic perspective on this and I am here to help humanity with this cosmic perspective. But all of them work with thoughts, with sound, with vibration, with the power of word. It does not go past me that you are in front of a microphone spreading the word about something. This is innate to you. This is something that you would feel like an inner drive to do, to share these concepts with people. So you actually have all three different kinds of air, not just one of them, you have all three of them. Your inner feminine happens to be the most expanded cosmic perspective sign that there is. Would probably experience sometimes feeling completely detached from the physical realm, from the emotional realm, because she's not here, like she doesn't, she's way out there.

Lyn:

Yeah, which, going back to that reason that makes me laugh as well is because I told Lisa right before we started. She asked me specifically did I ever not? Did I ever feel like I was? I can't remember your exact wording. I was like, oh yeah, the past two days I've been like I'm not here. It's like I feel like I'm hearing words. I'm not here, and I made such an effort to ground so I could be here for this conversation.

Lisa:

Great. So for that kind of feminine, it is about really allowing yourself to be as avant-garde as you really are. To really allow yourself to be as avant-garde as you really are, to really allow yourself to be that forward thinking as you are. You know you may not see yourself like that, but you carry the in, that energy, but you've got your inner masculine, what you came in knowing how to be and your fastest path in Libra. So it is about it's about working with other people. It's about sharing with other people. It's about collaborating. You've perhaps enjoyed being in partnership in your life. You know you want to work with other people. You're not just sitting here broadcasting by yourself, no, no, you're having people come on and collaborate, right, yeah, absolutely, you can see things from every perspective, so you can hold all these different, varying viewpoints and positions really well because, okay, I can see your point. I can see your point.

Lisa:

oh, I understand your point too yeah,

Lyn:

that's so true because and then it's like it's really interesting because it then comes back to okay. So what's my point?

Lyn:

because I can see everybody's point. But

Lisa:

exactly yeah, that's what that archetype struggles with. That is exactly what that archetype struggles with. What is my point of view? Yeah, so what you've come to learn? Go ahead, you ask me and then I'll tell you that no, no, no.

Lyn:

What I was going to say was then, interestingly, with that it's almost like. Then my point of view then becomes so, if it's going back to linking it to the bigger thing and doing this, it's like. My point of view is, we should all believe we are enough and we don't, and that's what it yeah, fascinating, yeah, yeah, and we can each be enough without having to be the same yeah, totally.

Lisa:

Which is a big deal. Now, what you've come to learn about is actually the third air sign, gemini, which is about your ideas. So you carry all of these. So working with air, really learning, learning, learning to work with air, steeping yourself in the air teachings would help you tremendously. And and to let me just explain this for a second, just explain this for a second Really learning to be intentional with the vibration, with the power of word, with the power of thoughts which you're doing with I Am Enough around your Sagittarius.

Lisa:

So you're directing your fire and balancing your fire in a way that is supportive. Now I said, you have one earth sign and this is your what's, what's called your right livelihood or your Contribution to the world, and it's in the most grounded, expanded earth sign. This is the earth mother. Okay, and so she would say you are a matriarch. You are here to hold the container for this kind of expansion, for this awareness, for people to understand that they're enough, for people to be willing to look at all the viewpoints and to not judge the other viewpoints. You know, you don't have to say you're enough how you are. It's also saying other people around you are enough like they are. That is the container that you hold. She has that ability to, and you have to call on her to keep all this air and fire grounded.

Lisa:

Yeah, yes, it is the challenge,

Lyn:

but just listening to you talking that through makes so much sense. And I know, obviously you. You have your programs and on on your website and I know you've written a book which was the rhythms of nature and it's been re-titled.

Lyn:

I noticed and I can't remember what the new title is nature's creation, alchemy, okay, so does just going through and I know there's another book coming out but just in order to help people understand more about themselves. And this because I'm absolutely blown away by what you've shared and how it actually lines up so much with what I've had to come to over the years in almost bit by bit pieces. But, as you say, it's that it's never really understanding why, just being okay with it which I know isn't always well, it isn't easy, but it's like, okay, well, that's who I am. But you know, just even going back to my training, my degree, my background was accountancy and, yeah, I could the detail I could do, I could understand, but it wasn't enough. I had to do the big picture. So it's just interesting how it flows through all aspects of of my life and, yeah, so fascinating.

Lyn:

So if people wanted to to know more, there's, there's books there. There's obviously your website that has information that conduct get access to other. There's one of your courses in there. But just really looking at that, because I know people have looked at the rhythms of nature, they've looked at elements in nature many different ways, but just having being able to pull them together to explain something so fundamental and you'd said earlier that before you looked at the elements, you didn't. I can't remember if you were wording this. You didn't understand the astrology and how that worked. Just looking at now, understanding yourself more, how has that really helped you personally to move forward with this, with actually linking you know, know, you talked about linking patterns and this has been a core part of you is being able to see those patterns. So how has all this helped you in moving this forward?

Lisa:

Oh, it's helped me enormously, enormously.

Lisa:

So let's just take the discovery that I had not too long ago. So I have, my inner feminine is in the archetype of Virgo. This is the middle of the earth realm, you know, not Taurus, not Capricorn, right in the middle. She understands the patterns of nature, she likes to be in nature, she's very detailed, she's very organized and, if we're talking prosperity, thrifty even. She's good with that level of energy. But what I've come to learn about is this archetype that you carry, sagittarius. So Sagittarius is very much about expanding to what's next.

Lisa:

So I realized that my Sagittarius had kind of taken over and it was trying to expand, expand, expand. And Virgo's over here going this is not working Like you're. First of all, also too, sagittarius, by itself uncontrained contain, can spend like it can burn through money, just like it can burn through any other resource. And that's what was happening and I'm like something's wrong, something's off. And then I realized that other archetype was in charge. I realized that other archetype was in charge and Virgo needed to be in charge. She needed to be tracking more deeply the expenses, she needed to be the one who focalized the entire creation team toward where they were actually going. And then, if I didn't pull back the reins from Sagittarius, like it was just going to keep going. So it made a huge, huge difference, understanding those two archetypes and really putting the right creation team player in charge of what needed to happen within the framework of what my prosperity experience was.

Lisa:

But it's helped me just in countless ways. Let's take one more example. So my inner masculine is in Leo and he's willing to be center stage, but I, early before I understood this, I actually had that projected onto my partner at the time and I would let him go be center stage, while because my interdependent is not about being center stage, she's managing the ballet school, she's doing whatever else but I was letting him out there and when I realized I'm supposed to be the one that's standing center stage with my sacred work and sharing it, that changed the relationship dynamic again. So there's loads of ways that this has actually helped me over the years. I just more than I could share.

Lyn:

And did you feel that tension then between going back to kind of the Sagittarius and the Virgo, you know that kind of being that detailed but being that kind of expensive? Did your inner self really feel that tension?

Lisa:

Yes.

Lyn:

Why did it show?

Lisa:

Well, it showed up in a lot of ways actually, and when Sagittarius was in the driver's seat, I don't even know how to explain it I would make decisions that were only good for Sagittarius but not really good for the rest of my inner creation team. So I had to and economic decisions is what I'm really talking about right now so I had to see that that wasn't working, call that energy in and make decisions that did support the entire creation team you're talking, I literally am seeing the circle and everybody's sitting around the circle and it's like, okay, what, what's the input and what are you about to?

Lisa:

to draw on now that's what I have people do. I mean, if they learn the archetypes, they literally connect with them, talk with them. I've had them put them in a circle. They can have a circle with a fire in the middle like a campfire, or they can have a boardroom if they like that kind of environment. And it depends on your archetypes, probably, which one you actually like to call in and imagine, but that's exactly what they need to do.

Lyn:

Interesting, going from the archetypes because I guess I've done work with the inner child, the inner teenager and all those archetypes and looking at the woundings and the different, again understanding which kind of element of the ninja, the whole of the archetypes there.

Lyn:

But this is almost like it's been a different layer. So another layer of understanding as to how we can show up or how to support ourselves, show up in the world as the adult Right and deny our fullness, adults and deny our fullness, and I think that for me, is the key thing is that we do understand ourselves, we do help ourselves heal whatever ruins and what's taking us away from ourselves and allow ourselves to really show up Absolutely Very powerful. When you do, yeah, Wonderful. So out of that, is there anything else you really would like to share with people, Just to you know, from your own wisdom that would help them? Yeah, maybe see if there is something. Just even have that inkling that there maybe is something out of you know, one of the archetypes is out of control or a tool that they can draw on.

Lisa:

Well, certainly, I have a free gift called Unleash, which is about unleashing your inner feminine prosperity power. So it's on my website, lisa-michaelscom, and it's forward slash unleash and it walks them through what their inner feminine is and gives them two pages about their inner feminine. So it's really, really, really helpful. But the other thing I would say is the most important first step I mean in addition to that, is really start establishing a relationship with the elements of nature. Really see them as living energies that can support you. You know, connect to the earth. Just feel what that feels like. Start establishing like okay, here I am, you know, thanks for meeting it. Like, talk to earth like you would talk like I'm talking to wind. Okay, what do I need to know? How do you work? Same thing with water, same thing with air, same thing with fire the sun, the candle, the campfire, whatever kind of fire you want to work with. Just start establishing a relationship with the allies that are the elemental forces of creation and that's going to help you tremendously as well.

Lyn:

I really do love that, because that's something that we've in our modern societies is that we've taken so far away from connecting, where people would say, yes, they understand nature is good for you, but it's maybe about spending time in nature and helping the new acts. What you're saying is taking it to such a deeper level and actually and I love the word in creative relationship with the elements. It's not about how can I use them, what can I do with them, it's create the relationship, and I think that, for me, goes back to how we've been taught to see nature as something we take from and whereas actually, if we can build a relationship with it and the different elements of it, then it really changes how we look at things.

Lisa:

Oh, absolutely changes how we look at things and how we receive things and how we develop and how much consciousness we can bring to our own development yeah it's like one question that I asked everybody.

Lyn:

So if you could change one societal belief that would benefit humanity, what would it be?

Lisa:

oh, I think it would absolutely be. Connect to the natural world, in terms of how the natural world does develop your consciousness is part of how you learn and grow as a human being, understand how the elements work, treat nature as a living thing treat nature as a living thing.

Lyn:

Yeah, which it is, yeah, and it's. It's interesting in that, because people would say, well, I see it as a living thing, but what they don't see is that there's an element, it has its own elements of consciousness, that it's. It's more than just it's living, because it's got roots and it's growing.

Lyn:

Exactly.

Lyn:

And I think for me that's that reminder that we can go and connect with it in a totally different way and build that relationship. Yeah, absolutely, and I think even in that that we we look, if we do that and we look at build that relationship, then actually it would take away many of the problems that we see happening in society or the beliefs that have been drilled into us over generations. Yeah, absolutely Just. Thank you so much for coming along and having this conversation and really sharing with me.

Lyn:

Yeah and thank you for sharing that gift. I will put that link in the notes, along with your website. I look forward to when your next book comes out.

Lisa:

Should be soon. Thank you, lynn, I've loved being with you.

Lyn:

Thank you.

Lyn:

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