TILT Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children

A Conversation with Dr. Naomi Fisher on Neurodivergence, PDA, and Self-Directed Learning

Debbie Reber

In this conversation, I talk with clinical psychologist and author Dr. Naomi Fisher about self-directed education, and why it can be such a powerful approach for neurodivergent kids, especially those with a PDA profile. Naomi shares why agency is so important in learning, how traditional school can chip away at a child’s self-worth, and what it looks like when we truly support demand-avoidant kids in ways that work for them. We also get into the challenges parents face when stepping outside the norm and why keeping the parent-child relationship at the center is key.

Things you'll learn from this episode

  • Why agency in learning is essential for neurodivergent children to build confidence, reduce anxiety, and stay engaged
  • How self-directed education supports children—especially those with PDA—by minimizing pressure and honoring their natural pace
  • Why respecting a child’s right to say no is foundational for creating a safe, trust-based learning environment
  • How understanding the cycle of demand avoidance helps reframe “bad behavior” as a response to overwhelm, not defiance
  • Why shifting away from rigid definitions of academic success can open the door to more authentic growth and capability
  • How prioritizing the parent-child relationship and finding community support helps families confidently navigate less conventional paths

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