Five with Fry
Five with Fry is your go-to podcast for understanding conflict—where it comes from, why it shows up, and how to handle it with clarity and intention. On each episode, Dr. Jen Fry breaks down the moments we avoid, the reactions we default to, and the skills it takes to move through conflict without blowing things up or shutting down.
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Latest Episodes
S3 Ep8: Coming Back on Monday From a Retreat That Actually Works
A retreat can feel productive while it is happening. People talk more honestly. The tension lowers. The team gets a little space from the pressure of the regular schedule. But if leaders have not named the real problem before the agenda is buil...
S3 Ep7: A Retreat Isn’t Success Until Hard Conversations Continue On Monday
A retreat can give people enough space to finally say the thing out loud. That matters. But naming the conflict is not the same as resolving it.In this episode, Jen talks about what happens when teams come back from a retreat with good c...
S3 Ep6: A Retreat Can’t Carry What Leaders Avoid
A retreat can’t carry everything leadership has been avoiding.When leaders wait until everyone is in the room to finally name the real issues, the retreat starts from defense instead of honesty. People are surprised. They get guarded. An...
S3 Ep5: You Can’t Call It Safe Without Accountability
Calling a retreat a safe space is only the beginning.If leaders have not decided what accountability looks like inside that space, people are being asked to trust a promise that may not hold once someone gets uncomfortable. That matters,...
S3 Ep4: Your Offsite Doesn’t Need More Trust Falls
Most retreats promise alignment and come-home energy, yet teams often return to the same old friction by Monday. We open the curtain on why that happens and make a bold case: conflict isn’t a problem to avoid at an offsite, it’s the work that m...