Village Chiropractic & Wellness Podcast

EP #3: Addressing Common Concerns About Chiropractic Medicine with Dr. Matt Green

Dr. Matt Green Episode 3

Unlock the secrets behind chiropractic care as Dr. Matt Green addresses common concerns and misconceptions that often cloud this field. Is pain merely a symptom rather than the problem itself? Dr. Green argues that it's a signal pointing to deeper issues that chiropractic treatment aims to resolve. Join us for a compelling discussion that dismisses myths, particularly the unfounded link between chiropractic adjustments and strokes, while ensuring you feel reassured and informed about your health journey.

Join Dr. Matt Green of Village Chiropractic & Wellness Center for practical advice designed to keep your neck in top form and your life pain-free.

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Speaker 1:

And I explain to people that pain is not the problem. People come in and they think that the pain is that we've been educated that pain is the problem. But pain is not the problem. Pain is an indication that there is a problem. That's what I want to find, and that's what I want to locate and that's what I want to correct.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to the Village Chiropractic and Wellness Podcast with your host, dr Matt Green. Join us as we explore health, wellness and the power of chiropractic care to help you live your best life. Let's dive into today's episode.

Speaker 3:

Well, welcome back listeners and viewers, charlie McDermott, co-hosthost producer of the show, here with dr matt. Dr matt, how the heck you doing today?

Speaker 3:

thanks, charlie, I'm doing good we, we got a lot of good stuff to talk about today oh, I, I, you know, one of my favorite uh things is is a kind of a teenager college student is still was staying up late for David Letterman Remember Letterman Sure, and he would often do the top 10 list and it was just, there was nothing better. That's right. Yeah yeah, so I hear you have a top 10 list so I hear you have a top 10 list.

Speaker 1:

We're going to do our top 10 list. I'm a little nervous actually, to tell you the truth. It's fun to talk about chiropractic and myself and what we're doing and all the things that are positive Not that this isn't positive, but we're going to dive into what are what are the things that I have seen throughout my years that uh have people feel tentative or worried or concerned about seeing a chiropractor.

Speaker 3:

Well, I got to tell you this this story. I was, uh yeah, we were with friends not too long ago for dinner and the husband, jess, loves chiropractic. I mean, this is how it came up he was talking about I just was with my chiropractor today and he is great and all this stuff.

Speaker 3:

And his wife says, ah, I'm afraid, you know, I just, and she's in pain, like she can't really use it and and so I was looking at your top 10 list here and I was checking off two of the things that she flat out said oh you know, I just don't know. So. So I think this is really timely and I'm thrilled you're covering it. So for for listeners here, what we're going to cover, the top 10 worries about chiropractic care. Yeah, all right. So with that number one, I forgot my drum, but without this sound effects of the drum, you're just going to have to imagine it. Let's get into the safety of adjustments.

Speaker 1:

We're just going to go right with the elephant in the room.

Speaker 3:

Is chiropractic safe? Have you ever heard that before Chiropractic?

Speaker 1:

safe. Of course, I think that we can talk about what we're going to talk about, some real specifics, but there is, I've found, just a general kind of underlying concern about someone feeling like they're in pain and having this picture of going in and laying on this table and having somebody clobber them, and I get it. I get it that that picture would have people be concerned and worried. I get it that that picture would have people be concerned and worried. I think that the thing that's most important is that I am well aware of this concern Very well. I've been a chiropractor for 22 years and so this is very familiar to me and this is something that I take very seriously. That I take very seriously because the number one thing that is important to me is that people have a warm and welcoming experience coming into my office and that they feel safe and that they feel at ease, and so that's my number one goal right away.

Speaker 1:

I think the thing that has people feel I don't know, I was just going to guess what they feel, but I can tell what I do and what I do is that I really set up the expectation for the first visit. I let people know what's going to happen. I let them know why what to happen. I let them know why what we're doing and why we're doing it. And when it finally comes time to that time, to where I'm going to adjust somebody, I'm going to tell them what to expect. I'm going to also tell them what to expect after the adjustment, what they might experience, so that they really that there's zero surprises. So there's no surprises. But a chiropractor for 22 years, I did massage for six years. Before that, I got some. I have some real skill in terms of putting people at ease and answering the questions so that by the time they get on the table, they're, you know, maybe not only ready but a little excited about what's about to happen.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Logically, why wouldn't you be anything other than excited? Because for me, when I always see my chiropractor, it's like oh, I'm going to experience some relief from this pain. I can't wait yeah.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, some relief from this pain. I can't wait. Yeah, yeah, right, right, yeah. And maybe when the thing that kind of clicks for people is that my, my purpose is to return the body back to its normal functioning. So we're going to move the body in the direction that it wants to go. Yeah, we're not pushing the body into a direction where somebody has to feel like they have to brace or be defensive. Yeah, like we're, we're moving it where it already wants to go. So I think that's that at that essence, um, I I feel 100 confident that I can good care of people, especially the people who feel the most scared and the most worried. When they come in, I say I got you.

Speaker 1:

The other thing that's on the top of people's minds when they are concerned sometimes is there's a thought or there's been this relationship between chiropractic and strokes, and I want to let people know that this is also something I'm very aware of and that I do continuing education about this subject every single year. The last one I just got certified in was November 18th of 2024. So I'm very up to date with the research that's happening around this, and this is not chiropractors doing this research. This is the research community. And here it is.

Speaker 1:

The way that we used to think about this was that somebody had some kind of neck pain, came into a chiropractor, they got adjusted and then there was a stroke and there was a direct correlation between that. The chiropractic adjustment caused the stroke. Today, what all those people that used to think that that now now are saying is that the correct order of events is somebody has some type of pain, there's a tear in one of the arteries that goes up into the brain already. Then they have pain from that. Then they come see the chiropractor.

Speaker 1:

The stroke happens afterwards. It's not causal. The chiropractic adjustment did not cause it. It's not causal. The chiropractic adjustment did not cause it. Adjustment to that type of vertebra a healthy vertebra would take 15 times the amount of force that's occurred in order to make that happen.

Speaker 1:

So it's very unfortunate and I hope that we as a chiropractic community are very well educated what to do if that happens. Unfortunately, there's really not much screening we can do before, for that there's some. We'll do another podcast on this so I can go more into detail. Boy, that sounds real deep.

Speaker 2:

If it has happened.

Speaker 1:

It would have happened anyway either in a car accident or getting their hair washed or turning their head too quickly. It's very unfortunate and, again, very well educated in terms of what to do if that does happen. But there's the thinking of the day straight from the research community. Good.

Speaker 3:

Good stuff, all right, ready to move on to number two.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we started with a heavy one.

Speaker 3:

How about effectiveness of treatment?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think I know what you mean. But, like, what do you mean by that?

Speaker 3:

Well, can your patients be confident that chiropractic care will, you know, effectively alleviate their pain. Oh yeah, I'm sure you get folks that come in and they're like well, I'm really not sure, Probably probably not sure if they should see a chiropractor.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, they're going to dedicate their time and their money um and their effort Um. Is it going to be worth it? Um, obviously, there's no guarantee Um but I'm really good at what I do.

Speaker 1:

I've been doing it for 22 years. It was. You know, I was a massage therapist for six years before then. Um, I've had, uh, an immense amount of education in terms of anatomy and physiology and I'm really good at explaining and finding and really being thorough. I just had an exam today and at the end she was like, wow, that surpassed my expectations. That was really thorough.

Speaker 1:

So really take my time to be very thorough and to find the problem and to explain it, to be very thorough and to find the problem and to explain it and I think by just there, within that first visit, I think people get a sense OK, this guy knows what he's doing and he cares about what he's doing and he's passionate about it. Yeah, and I explain to people that pain is not the problem. People come in and they think that the pain is that we've been educated. The pain is the problem, but pain is not the problem. Pain is an indication that there is a problem. That's what I want to find and that's what I want to locate and that's why I want to correct and you know it's not uncommon that I get the nickname.

Speaker 3:

Magic.

Speaker 1:

Man, miracle man. For me it's pretty simple. Hey, I just uh, really I'm just a technician in some ways, but um yeah, I'm a real good bet so I I know some folks come in thinking that this is might be just a temporary fix.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's a good one, yes yeah, well it is.

Speaker 1:

It is a temporary fix until it's not Right. When we're learning something new, like, let's say, if we're learning how to play golf, you know, we're trying, we're trying, we're trying, we're no good at it, we get some lessons. Ah, got to keep the head down. Eye on the ball.

Speaker 1:

Oh get out there, hit a couple, hits Like, oh, now you're good, but then you fall into those old habits again. Hits like, oh, now you're good, but then you fall into those old habits again. But then you get another lesson and they get a little better and it's all. It's a temporary fix until you get it. And once you get it, then you're good.

Speaker 1:

The great news is is that the body already, the body already knows what to do. It's just forgotten, it's been in this tension pattern and so we're just, we're every session, all exercise, all of it is all to remind the body what it naturally knows already how to do, which is to be healthy. And until it clicks, until it remembers, until it falls into that natural pattern again, then people have the experience of it gets a little better. Uh, now it's back, it gets a little better and now it goes back. And I say that on visit one. This healing pride. It's a process, and it's a process that expansion and contraction, expansion and contraction, and that expanding time will last. You get a little longer and a little longer, a little longer until, until it sticks. So, um, there it is all right, yeah, well done yeah all right.

Speaker 3:

Number three let's talk qualifications of chiropractors. You know that comparison right? Uh, you're not. You know, a air quotes medical doctor? You know, are you qualified, right?

Speaker 1:

yeah, it's true, I'm not a medical doctor. It's so funny like you're not a real doctor. Yeah, should. I see a medical doctor, or should I see a chiropractor?

Speaker 1:

You know how I hear that question Should you see a medical doctor or should you see a dentist? Where there's a little crossover, maybe in pain management? But we are doing different things and I asked somebody the question. They said well, I think chiropractic isn't like a six-month certification process and it's not Medical doctors. We have about the same hours. Yeah, when we are learning more anatomy and physiology, they're doing more microbiology and chemistry. When they're learning more pharmacology, we're learning more adjusting technique and philosophy. When I'm taking their cardiovascular and pulmonary classes, I'm learning it so that I can be familiar with it enough to identify things and refer out.

Speaker 1:

No, they're learning it because somebody's life might depend on it. So in some of those it's a little bit more intensive in that way, but it's about the same. We're going to school about the same hours Now for me, when I graduated I went right back and I taught in the cadaver lab and then became the lead teacher for about five years. I also taught at the Kaiser Permanente School of Allied Health Sciences and I taught the anatomy and physiology courses. You ever seen one of those anatomy and physiology books like 36 chapters, anatomy and physiology courses? You ever seen one of those anatomy and physiology books like 36 chapters? That's what I taught. So I've had a lot of experience, and ART, which we talked about last podcast, which really got to know the muscles, tendons and ligaments. So I'm I'm very well versed and passionate, if couldn't tell, about learning about the body. Love it, love it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, how about when it comes time? You know certain patients? You need to collaborate with medical professionals.

Speaker 1:

Easy. I just had two folks here within this last year that refer them both to get x-rays of their hips. Saw that their hips had almost no cartilage left. Refer them to an orthopedic surgeon. Both of them had hip surgeries and both of them were happy and walking around. So it's very easy for me to do that, as well as to refer to acupuncturists. We have a massage therapist here in the office. These are easy things. It's truly my purpose to. I want people to feel good, I want people to get better and if it's outside my scope, let's do it. I want to be the hero. I mean, if we're getting down to it.

Speaker 3:

All right. Number four let's talk about pain during or after the adjustments. Is there pain? Is that pretty common? How does that work?

Speaker 1:

Not common, not common, no, no. I mean I started adjusting my kids when they were born. I've been adjusting them about every week. They're 13 and 16. My youngest patient is four. My oldest patient is 87. I take Medicare. So you know I see a lot of folks that are in their 60s, 70s and 80s.

Speaker 1:

Again, my number one purpose is to put people at ease when they come in. I'm in two modes. Number one I'm not in a rush at all. There's no rush. I don't need to make a big adjustment or do something that's gonna really make a big deal for them on the table right away. There's no need.

Speaker 1:

And I got a real sense of urgency. I want them to feel better as quickly as possible. But you know, if somebody's sensitive and is feeling in pain, I'm going to go nice and slow. I'm going to go easy. You're going to ease the body back in towards where it wants to be. You know, sometimes people I can't go hard enough, but it's my job to find out where that person is and then have the right adjustment just for them. And you know, sometimes people get up off the table and say like I feel amazing. But I would say most people get off the table and say thank you very much. And I just want to make sure they don't. I just want to make sure at least they get up off the table and say, hey, that didn't hurt.

Speaker 3:

Now I just had a personal curiosity, dr Matt. What's it like? Is there a a big difference, like adjusting an adult versus a child? Like I would think that kids are way more pliable and for sure, yeah, the amount of you know the the well.

Speaker 1:

We'll talk about it here in a little bit. The the cracking sound, if you will. Kids don't need that. That four-year-old doesn't need that. She's got her leg turns in when she walks. So I have her walk down the hall and then the feet are like this, and then this foot is turned in and then I have her on the table and then I'm just I'm moving the joints in in the direction that they need to go and do that all the way down the lace and then I have her walk down the the hallway and then the foot is straight ahead.

Speaker 1:

Um, yeah and you're right, they're very pliable, um, very easy. Uh, it's a real pleasure. I mean that little adjustment right there, if that wasn't made, could turn into a problem 20 years from now. Um, so I love it. I love taking care of the little kids All right.

Speaker 3:

Thank you for answering that. My curiosity is resolved now On the number five. The number five top worry about chiropractic care is the frequency of visits. Yeah, I have to see a chiropractor for the rest of my life, right? Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Every day. That's the worry. I think the true worry is like is the care plan appropriate for the problem that I have? That's where I think the problem is. Is that, hey, I think my problem is this big, but now you're saying I need all of this, it doesn't match. And so I do.

Speaker 1:

I use an exam that's from the functional uh um, that FSA uh organization called SFMA, specific functional movement assessment, and that exam is designed to get to the problem and find out what's causing the FSA organization called SFMA, specific Functional Movement Assessment, and that exam is designed to get to the problem and find out what's causing the pain as quickly as possible. So I use that and then I show all the tests that I've done and then I rate the severity of each one of those on a piece of paper and it's very easy to see the overall um severity. You know something, you know somebody just came in and they're all those tests were right there on that middle, moderate severity. You know somebody came in that day from a car, a car crash. You know it was very much moderate to severe majority of those.

Speaker 1:

So when I look at that and somebody else looks at that, we say like hey, there's the severity of your problem. I don't know how long it's going to take, but I have guesses. I have like, hey, here's what I've seen over the 22 years. Here's about what it's going to take for you to come in here and say, hey, I feel good and I feel stable. How long is it going to take for them to actually feel better? I don't know that. So I just start with little, small chunks.

Speaker 1:

Okay let's do four to five visits, then we'll re-exam. Then, by the time we get there now I have a better sense of like either they're rocking fast, getting better or it's going to take a lot longer. And then we'll choose a next segment of visits to do and then we'll re-exam. After that I feel like this is good. I feel like as a practitioner, I feel confident about doing that, but I can give them the big picture but also take small bites so that we can move along the process. It's true, somebody else came in. I thought that they were severe and then he came in the next day. He's like I feel great. I was like okay, let's check it. And I checked him and he's like wow, everything just came right back into place. So, like I said, I don't know when I first meet him.

Speaker 1:

It's just taking a two-dimensional picture, and so, uh, yeah, I like the way that I do it love it, love it.

Speaker 3:

All right, number six, I come to see you. You got the plan all figured out. Yeah, cost and insurance, of course.

Speaker 1:

Of course I have a lot of confidence in our financial plan, our financial policies 2023,. We hired an outside consultant and spent a good three to four months designing a very transparent financial policy, and that financial policy is given to the patients before they even walk in the door for the first time, so they're crystal clear on how much it is and what we're charging for and how we do everything. So that's been very important. I'm really happy that that project got done so people can feel really 100% confident about what we're charging and how we're doing it. We will bill for people who have Medicare and we will bill for people who have personal injury or a car accident, and we're somewhat selective about which ones we take with that, but those are the two that we'll bill for. For everybody else, they pay our price and we give them something called a super bill or a receipt, and then they submit that to their insurance company and then they can get reimbursed.

Speaker 3:

So that's how that happens, okay.

Speaker 1:

That's pretty.

Speaker 3:

You know all things considered with insurance. You guys make it easy. It's really simplified the process.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I found that that's what I want, yeah, when I go to a practitioner's office or when I go somewhere else, I want somebody to look me in the eye and say here's what it is, and it's nice and clear. It gives me a lot of confidence.

Speaker 3:

Number seven philosophical differences. Yeah, can you speak to that? You know that term holistic health.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

You don't hear that a whole lot on the medical side.

Speaker 1:

No, no I think that that's and I think that that's in its essence is what has set apart chiropractic and allopathic medicine from the very beginning, back in the late 1800s, when they were both coming into existence around the same time. Allopathic medicine philosophy or outlook is an outside in approach, that the answers to our health are from the outside and need to be given or done to the body, and the chiropractic has the philosophy that the body has the ability to heal itself, so the healing comes from the inside out. Neither one is right or wrong. It's just good for us to get clear on which one is which and which one is doing which one. I think the concern is is that, with that, is that going to see a chiropractor and having explanations of what is going on that don't connect with what people feel is real or what people feel?

Speaker 1:

yeah, is real, is real for them, and so my, you know, my philosophy is real, straightforward, and it's. I have models of the spine, I have models of the degenerative process in the office and it's real important for me to say look at right here, here's the model, here's how it happens, here's healthy, here's not healthy, and here's how not healthy happens, and here's how we're going to return it back. Pretty straightforward and just in terms of my philosophy.

Speaker 1:

I'm very attracted to the philosophy of where chiropractic came from. I mean, it really started with. There is a universal intelligence and we all, all of our bodies have an innate intelligence which is a part of that universal intelligence. And the nervous system is the system in which that innate intelligence works. And when there is an interference in that nervous system, then that innate intelligence has a harder time doing its job and being reconnected up into the universal intelligence. So I can imagine someone who's very research-based and really wants to know what's happening to them and they go to see a chiropractor and the chiropractor says well, it has to do with your universal intelligence and the spiritual connectivity between the two. I can imagine that there being a bit of a turnoff with that with some people. Although I love it, I think it's what makes chiropractic distinct and what makes chiropractic beautiful and so amazing. It's so amazing, but in terms of how I communicate and how I talk and educate, I tend not to come from that spot.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, I hear you, I understand the language and I know it's not for everyone. But, boy, it's the universal. Whatever you intelligence, whatever you want to call it, is so, so powerful when it comes to healing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Well, and I can. It's easy for me to talk about innate intelligence. All you got to do is imagine you cut your hand.

Speaker 1:

Your brain, which is way up here, knows that that happened all the way out here, and then it knows exactly what to send to that area in order for it to stitch it back up. For then, a days, maybe week later, for you to look back and you could never see that there was a cut there. Yeah, it's amazing. How did that happen? It's amazing All the mechanisms that need to happen in order for that to occur. So that's innate intelligence. I just don't tend to use that language. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

All right, we'll just get between you and me.

Speaker 3:

So number eight worry yeah, misdiagnosis or miscondition. What steps do you take to ensure that you know?

Speaker 1:

nothing's missed.

Speaker 1:

I think, like everything else that we've been talking about, it's again it's super important for me to take great care of people.

Speaker 1:

Take great care of people and that has everything to do with how I adjust them to what I diagnose and how I, what direction I lead them and what I say. I know that people in authority have our words are very important and can sometimes be, can be big, and really people are looking to us to really steer them in the right direction and I really want to do that and I feel like for a majority of the time I'm really on and there's one person in my Yelp review that really you know, let me and everybody know about how I missed it and you know it bums me out. It really does and I'm really sorry that that happened and that I missed that. And you know I'm human and I'm apologized and apologize as much as I could and really want the best for her. I truly do, but it happens. Do, but it happens, but I really, after that, I did as much as I could to learn from that experience and to move forward and do my best that that doesn't happen again.

Speaker 1:

I got a little bit more conservative you know, in terms of if I notice anything, or anything comes up on the screen, that I even start to have a sense of, hey, let's get some imaging. Hey, why don't you go see somebody else to get a second opinion about that? It's, yeah, even more important to me now.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, thank you for sharing that and enlightening us. And yeah, you know, it's like you said, we're all human and we all do our absolute best and we want to do what's right for folks. And you know it's at the end of the day.

Speaker 3:

I'm sure she understands and you know, it's, I think, back to the universe, and how? No one, what's the best way of putting it? We all put out a certain amount of energy right, and that energy can help, work and destroy, and I would imagine you know that the challenge with reviews and this instant feedback is can be destructive at times and helpful, but you know.

Speaker 1:

Well, I've had my share of a little weird or a little strange reviews that we need to then uh, you know respond to. But this, this one, was real, it was. It was a mistake of mine, I. I should have referred out um more quickly. So, um, it happens, but I really want to do everything I can to make sure that that never happens again yep yeah all right.

Speaker 3:

Number nine, number nine invasive sound, that experience of you know the hearing, the noise when an adjustment is the yes the thing that makes us so distinct.

Speaker 1:

That's right, you know. I'll tell you about 50 of the people love well, I don't know what percentage, but there's people who love it and some people who come in and say like I don't know about that sound, I don't think I want to have that. And sometimes I explain it and people say thank you very much, I just don't think that that's my path. And other people I explain and say, oh okay, all right, let's give it a shot. Here's my explanation of what's happening there.

Speaker 1:

It's the same mechanism as when you take a suction cup off a wall or when you open up a champagne bottle or pop a soda pop, the pressure inside the joint changes and makes that sound.

Speaker 1:

The amazing what's happening there, and why it's important, is that all of the little motion sensors that surround the joint, that tell the brain where that joint is in space, are all around that part that gets stretched, that makes that noise. So when the brain is in its control, tight, hold, protect mode and it's tight, the adjustment can help to make that sound, send a rush of information up to the brain, temporarily overwhelming the brain, and then the brain lets go and it allows it to reset and re-choose whether to go back to that tight mode or let go. And that's how that works. Now, that's when that sound, that's when it makes the most feedback to the brain. And just because it doesn't make the sound doesn't mean the adjustment didn't happen. It just means that not as much information went up. And the true test of the adjustment working is did the muscle soften? Did it go? Even Can the joint now move more freely? If all those things are present right after the adjustment, adjustment worked yeah, that's what I love.

Speaker 3:

I just love that feeling of like, oh my, my goodness, the flexibility again, like I've lost 20 pounds, you know it's so good, it's so good.

Speaker 1:

the unfortunate thing is that karate movies, when somebody gets their neck twisted and it makes that sound and then somebody falls to the ground, oh yeah, yeah, you, you, you can't kill somebody like that, you can't. You're just simply taking all the joints all the way to tension so that they all make that sound. I mean, somebody could be bruised, or you know, or, or you know if something that like that happens, with that amount of force, like that, like in a karate movie. But it's, it's just not.

Speaker 3:

it's not the way that it happens yeah, well, thank you for clearing that up yeah sure, yeah, I'll never look at a jackie chan movie, uh the same all right. Number 10 reputation or misconceptions. So yeah, you know that stigma that you know chiropractic isn't evidence-based, it isn't.

Speaker 1:

You know the the pseudoscience yep yep, right, that's the way I heard. I'm I'm real sorry, but it's just not true and it's I don't know. You know, I don't know. There's two, you know. My response to that is like it's, it's a little lazy. It's a little lazy. It's easier just to throw those terms around rather than just take some time and really take a look to see what's actually happening in the realm of research. You're just saying something that you feel or want to say, or heard from somebody else. Uh, because it's just not true. So you got to enter the 21st century. Okay, that's my message and the rest of us? Yeah, because here's what's happened. Heidi Havoc, who broke into the world of research as a woman and as a chiropractor 15 years ago, which is an incredible story Now, 15 years later, has proven that the function of the spine is directly correlative to the function of the brain. Pretty awesome stuff that she's doing.

Speaker 3:

Now what has?

Speaker 1:

not come to that point of certainty yet, but I think it's getting. There is the direct connection between regular chiropractic care and low blood pressure, really. So that's coming. That's coming. That's still kind of in the works, but they haven't gotten to the point where they can save as solidly as that first one, but that's coming.

Speaker 1:

And the Nobel Peace Prize not Peace Prize, the Nobel Prize for Physiology in 2021 was around mechanoreceptors, and mechanoreceptors are the sensors that are around the joint that talk to the brain, and when they realize that chiropractic is the clinical application of what they just found, wow, oh, my gosh, I just going to blow up so incredible. So I hope that it's not just my overall optimistic point of view that's giving that, but I really think that chiropractic's on the brink of breaking through something huge at some point. I mean, sometimes the research happens and then it's common knowledge 40 years later. I don't know, I hope we don't have to wait that long but some really amazing things that are happening in the world of research that when they see, like I said, when they see the chiropractics, the clinical application of what they're finding, it's going to be amazing for us. So there it is.

Speaker 2:

Did we do it? I think we did it.

Speaker 1:

We did 10.

Speaker 3:

We covered the top 10. So then the question is for any listeners who maybe they have a 17th warrior, God knows what I mean you have anyone who's still feeling hesitant about seeing a chiropractor slash and my, my translation is, you know, helping to relieve pain. Yeah, what would be your advice?

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean, after listening to this, then the last step is just give it a try. Yeah, just give it a try. I mean, obviously I'm a little biased, but I think I'm a great one to come see, and if you're close enough, then come, come do the first visit, get yourself evaluated, have the experience, because we can talk about it all day long, but until you actually have the experience of it, I don't think you've really been able to truly assess what chiropractic care can do for you, yep. Love it.

Speaker 3:

Love it All, right. Well, for listeners, viewers, if you're watching the show you can see villagechiropracticoaklandcom is where you want to go and you can schedule an appointment there. Certainly you can call 510-281-1708 and same deal, hey, and if it's two o'clock in the morning, send us a text, leave a message, whatever, and the team will get back to you. Or, hey, stop by and say hi, right, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we're in Montclair village in oakland, california love it, love it right. Yeah, so our goal is to have these podcasts be brief and and and to the point, and so you know, thanks for everybody for uh, for listening and and watching all the way through here. Hopefully, this information was really really made a difference for you.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah or pass it on to a friend. I'm going to make sure my buddy, his wife sees this. That's right.

Speaker 1:

That's right. It makes a difference.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, great All right.

Speaker 1:

Dr Matt we'll see you next time, okay.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for tuning in to the village Chiropractic and Wellness Podcast with Dr Matt Green. For more information or to schedule an appointment, visit our website at villagechiropracticoaklandcom or call us at 510-281-1708. Stay well and we'll see you next time.