Hungover Hoochies

In this episode, we open up about our hungover hoochie days—spilling the highs, lows, and all the chaotic fun (and fallout) that comes with overdoing it on the drinks. From messy nights to moments of clarity, we reflect on how drinking has shaped our relationships, emotions, and choices.

We explore the idea of sober curiosity, question cultural norms around alcohol, and talk about what it’s like to rethink old habits. It’s an honest, down-to-earth conversation about growth, self-awareness, and learning to show up differently.

Join in on the conversation with us! Send us your not so great moments, and let's get this real talk going. 

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Renee (00:00)
Hey guys, welcome back to Nosedive. I'm here with Mara today. Always so lovely to see you. How you doing, Mara?

Mara DeMauro (00:08)
Doing great and I love your hat. And for those of you who can't see it says I heart boiled peanuts.

Renee (00:10)
Thanks!

bold peanuts. That's like one of the

only words that I really have a Southern accent for. The bold, but bold. Yeah, excited for today's episode. We're going to get a little vulnerable on the podcast today. We're going to be discussing some of our not so great moments.

Mara DeMauro (00:25)
Mm. Bold.

Renee (00:43)
in our drinking days and just kind of go into some of our experiences that maybe sort of allowed us to go towards the sober curiosity and really maybe want and maybe why we decided to kind of reevaluate our relationship with alcohol. the reason why I think we're being a little vulnerable with this is we just want to reiterate that you're not the only one.

that we probably have some very relatable stories. And on the flip side, you don't necessarily have to have stories like these to decide that you want to get your health and wellness in check, especially when it comes to alcohol. So yeah, Mari, you want to dive in and give the peoples your couple stories? And then we'll, yeah. ⁓

Mara DeMauro (01:35)
Okay, here we go.

yeah, this is, it's funny because this first story that I'll share is definitely like, I was so far away from reevaluating my relationship with alcohol, but I will never forget this moment. ⁓ And I know this is very unusual. So I kind of want to preface that as well. Like,

I don't know, it almost sounds silly when I talk about it. Cause people are like, are you serious? Like what? And so anyway, here's the gist of it. Um, in 10th grade, the first time I ever blacked out that was, yeah, it was 10th grade. was the first time I ever blacked out and it was a miserable scenario. I was like puking my brains out.

the whole night. remember exactly like whose house we were at and the school that I went to, it was like a magnet school. So they had like different, you know, I don't know what you call them, different magnets, like ⁓ legal and you know, the performing arts and medical. So anyway, had a couple of friends who were in medical and they were there assisting me and helping me and they were very worried.

Renee (02:30)
Mm-hmm.

⁓

Mara DeMauro (03:00)
about me and wanted to call the ambulance because they didn't know, they were also intoxicated. ⁓ And they also wanted to call my mother. And of course at that time I was like, no, my mom will be so mad. that is the last time, the first and last time I ever threw up from drinking alcohol.

Renee (03:08)
Mmm.

Hmm?

Mara DeMauro (03:30)
was 10th grade and that is the last time knock on wood, cause I'm super superstitious when it comes to this shit that I've thrown up at all. At all, at all. I have so prior, yeah. So prior to that, I already had like a fear of throwing up from the stomach virus because we know how miserable that feels. It's awful. And so I already had like a fear of throwing up. then that happened and

Renee (03:30)
Wow.

Whoa.

Mara DeMauro (03:58)
I don't know because, nay, how many years ago was that?

Renee (04:02)
Oh my god. Yeah, I mean what? 15. Yeah. I don't know, I can't do math.

Mara DeMauro (04:03)
We're like 15, yeah, 15 years. I have not thrown

up in 15 years. And yeah, I remember, I know, and I'm obviously like, I'm gonna throw up again at some time and I'm super like, ⁓ shit, when is it gonna happen, when is it gonna happen? You know, just from getting sick or food poisoning, whatever, there's so many reasons you could throw up. I've had some...

Renee (04:13)
It's blowing my mind right now.

Right.

Mara DeMauro (04:31)
you know, like spiritual teachers kind of tell me like, this is, this is odd. Like it's, it's kind of good for your body to release. yeah. And I'm like, well, yeah, I'm holding it in because I'm terrified. But, ⁓ yeah, I just remember like, I remember how sloppy I was, you know, because that's also pretty young still, you know, I don't, I was kind of like my

Renee (04:42)
You're right. Yeah.

Mara DeMauro (05:01)
couple first interactions with drinking and I just read my Red Solo cup and ⁓ gosh, we were drinking definitely Bacardi rum for sure. Bacardi rum. ⁓ Probably the coconut one, like true Miami style, you know?

Renee (05:06)
What were you drinking? Do you remember?

Oof. Yeah.

Mm.

Mara DeMauro (05:19)
So yeah, will, I'll definitely never forget that. And it's weird though, because I think that that moment or that experience, along with having, you know, people in my family struggle with addiction and seeing how it, you know, affected them, I...

Renee (05:24)
yeah, that's rough.

Mara DeMauro (05:48)
became very cautious about how and how much I would consume. So for example, the rest of high school, I still drank and in college I drank. I wasn't necessarily a habitual drinker. I would drink a couple of times a month. However, I was dating someone. I was with him for about 10 years and he...

was in the military and I was oftentimes hanging out with a lot of like, you know, hyper masculine military dudes who on the weekends were drinking hard and taping, you know, massive beer bottles to their hands with duct tape and you you got to chug the whole thing.

Renee (06:36)
Yeah, what

is that called? Like Edward 40 hands or some shit? Yeah, yeah.

Mara DeMauro (06:39)
Yes, yes, like that

whole thing, you know, so of course it was boring. Sometimes I would not drink, but ⁓ obviously it's boring to be around people who are like partying hard and you're not, you know, so I'd be like, all right, come on, you know, let's, let me get my little, what, what did we drink back then? Was it Trulies? No, it wasn't Trulies.

Renee (06:53)
Mm-mm.

No,

Trulies wasn't, they weren't around yet. ⁓ Maybe like, I'm thinking of like Smirnoff ices and like,

Mara DeMauro (07:03)
What did I drink? I think I...

I was

drinking definitely vodka. was like a gray goose, like gray goose was my thing. Like, who am I?

Renee (07:14)
Grey Goose, yeah.

vodka, it wasn't even vodka sodas either yet. It was like vodka Red Bull, vodka cranberry, vodka Sprite or something. Yeah, yeah. ⁓

Mara DeMauro (07:24)
cranberry.

Yes, that was,

that was my thing. And I just remember I would get like really silly. would like dance on top of the bars, you know, just like, you know, your classic stuff. ⁓ but I was already at that point. Like I said, scared to throw up. So I would, I was able to monitor that. So I don't know.

Renee (07:46)
Mmm... Mmm... ⁓

So you think that maybe the literally the fear of throwing up kind of stopped you from possibly drinking too much?

Mara DeMauro (08:01)
⁓ for,

for sure, stopped me from drinking over, like over, over consuming, ⁓ that in addition with seeing people that I love struggle and having the fear that I too, if I crossed a certain limit, that that would become my main coping mechanism. And that's probably, I still probably believe that to be true. ⁓ I've heard before I've heard some people say like, you know, once you cross the line.

Renee (08:06)
Over. Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Mara DeMauro (08:31)
It's very hard to go back to being able just to have one drink and yeah, I, I don't know.

Renee (08:43)
Yeah, you feel like the culmination of those things plus just maybe what you, I don't know. mean, what was your sort of last straw? Like, was it just a combination of those things?

Mara DeMauro (08:57)
⁓ well.

Yeah, my last, I guess I wanted to add before I talk about my last straw that I was, I definitely noticed that I would get aggressive when I drink. ⁓ I had a lot of repressed emotions and I would, my anger that I don't normally express comes out. And I was like, ⁓ man, like I'm not necessarily like I'm your, your fun.

Renee (09:11)
Mmm.

Mara DeMauro (09:28)
you know, person that can drink with you if we're dancing. But if we're just like, sitting on the couch or sitting at a bar, sipping on alcohol and I'm annoyed at something, ooh, it's going to fester. And that would like really show up in my relationship. I, I feel like I would get really angry and it's not something that I really noticed and understood until later, later, later.

⁓ I've always wondered, like, I always wanted to be like, just like send an email to my ex and be like, dude, look, I'm so sorry.

Renee (10:07)
Like that wasn't really, I mean, it's a part of you, of course, but it's not the whole, your whole being. You know, it's just a part of you that you were unable to express in other ways and the drinking just kind of got you there.

Mara DeMauro (10:15)
Yeah.

a hundred percent. Yeah. It came all, it came out all cockeyed and whatever. I'm like, my gosh. Like, yeah. And it's just so interesting. And I think that's what a part of why I think it is so important to give yourself space or take a good break, you know, from substances is because it, it, what's the word I'm looking for? It like represses your

Renee (10:25)
Hahaha

Mara DeMauro (10:47)
emotional maturity and your ability to like really do some introspection and understand why you're doing things. And it just gives you a perspective shift. so, you know, maybe you're not someone who like wants to give up alcohol forever. That's okay. But having a good break, you know, like will really help shift things. ⁓ And yeah, I mean, it wasn't till way later that

Renee (10:49)
Mm.

Mara DeMauro (11:17)
I, yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't like one hard moment necessarily that made me be like, okay, let me just like back off. was just like a collective thing. And I was like, all right, ⁓ I need to just be able to sit with myself and kind of understand what's going on. And, and it just kept like going the next day, the next day, the next day. I never ever thought that I was going to be alcohol free. Never.

Renee (11:47)
Yeah.

Mara DeMauro (11:47)
I just,

it wasn't like, I didn't have a goal. I wasn't seeking that. ⁓ It's just something that started and then that became better than drinking the alcohol and the consequences that come with it.

Renee (12:02)
Yeah, like a natural progression. And ⁓ if people, the people that know you too, to hear you say that you would get aggressive is something that I can't really even fathom. You know, cause I only, you know, we've known each other for so long. And of course we've seen each other's different emotions, but aggression.

Mara DeMauro (12:04)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Renee (12:27)
It's yeah, I just don't even, it's not simultaneous for me to even put you in aggression in the same sentence. So, but yeah, and.

Mara DeMauro (12:35)
Right. Exactly.

Like, and it's, it's interesting because, and it, it did teach me something, you know, because obviously I do have those parts within me too, just like everyone else. And I, you know, like I remember specifically being like, you know, to my ex kind of being like, come on, like trying to egg him on for him to like get mad at me and hype him up.

Renee (13:03)
Mmm.

Mara DeMauro (13:04)
you know, but he was super

like grounded and level-headed. He's like, nope, like, nope. And I'm like, that would bother me so much. like, come on. Like, what do you mean? Yeah.

Renee (13:09)
No.

Yeah, like you almost like wanted, yeah, you wanted

that kind of emotional just sort of back and forth. And I love what you said too about just taking that break and allowing yourself to have that introspection, but finding that baseline, your baseline, because with all this other substances mixed in, you don't really know what your baseline even is. So I love that you mentioned that.

Mara DeMauro (13:32)
Yeah.

Right. Yeah.

Yeah. And then like, it's interesting too. I mean, we could go down a whole rabbit hole of the, just from a health perspective, how toxic the conversation was around like, okay, if I have this drink, then I can't eat this or the next day, you know, all of that. And I know you relate to that because that's kind of how it.

started to really hit for you because you were tracking macros and whatever and being like, wait, I need to move stuff around if I want to be able to get this wine in. And it's just like, what the heck? I'm in high school and college and I know this is just so normal. And it's so wild because it's like, is this what we're really living for?

Renee (14:09)
Totally. Yeah.

Yeah.

I know. Well, and it's just so, it's so allowed and so accepted. And if anybody wants to talk about it, I think about it now when I was playing lacrosse in college, if I were to bring up something like this, I think my close friends would be open maybe to that conversation. But on the outside, hell no. It wouldn't even be a conversation because no one wants to touch.

that type of conversation because it was so all or nothing. You want to talk about alcohol? That means you have an issue. That means you have a problem when in reality, all I want to do at this point is have the conversation just to even just to talk about it because I normalize it. Thank you. Yes, because I think some things

Mara DeMauro (15:26)
Like normalize it.

Renee (15:32)
definitely would have changed the trajectory of how I treated myself and how I treated my body beginning probably even in high school and through college. And who knows what that would have done in terms of my progression with the sport. Maybe I would have stayed in the sport longer. Maybe I would have been a little more mentally resilient, emotionally resilient.

And I don't have any regrets at all. I'm not saying that I would want to go back and change, but I think when we have the knowledge, we've got to do our part in having the tough conversations. And I understand it is very tough for people, but man, what I did to my body back then, it's just like you said, there's this whole ripple effect and overlap when it comes to mental health and physical health and

what you're putting in your body and what that means and how your goals and how that translates to your reality. So yeah, it's just crazy, crazy.

Mara DeMauro (16:37)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, let it rip, Nay. Tell us a good one.

Renee (16:42)
⁓

man, so which one should I go with first? I think I'll go back to my, because both of them were around my birthdays, so yeah, that's a trend. Yeah, of course. 21 years old, of course I'd been drinking before then, but I was going to Greenville, downtown with some friends. I had some sorority sisters with me.

Mara DeMauro (16:51)
birthday thing.

Renee (17:07)
and we'd been drinking at the house of course beforehand and then we went out to dinner and we got to the point in the night and I don't even know at that point, because I was the type of drinker, okay, where I didn't think that I would get as drunk as I would. Does that make sense? Like I would have two and be like, yeah, I'm fine. And then I would get so hyped and not even realize that I would have like,

Mara DeMauro (17:28)
Mm.

Renee (17:36)
sucked down two more glasses of wine or whatever it was. And so then it would just kind of hit me all at once. And I wasn't the one either to not eat so I could get even more fucked up or anything like that. I would try and eat beforehand and try and hydrate and things like that. But ⁓ usually it would just hit me all at once. And so I can't even remember at what point at the night it was definitely towards the end.

A sorority sister of mine and I were running down the sidewalk and she ran and jumped on my back and I lost all feeling in my body and just hit the freaking pavement face first. She yeeted off my back and I'm rolling on the ground laughing because I'm like, ⁓ man, my face, you know, but of course you don't really feel anything.

Mara DeMauro (18:19)
God.

Right.

Renee (18:32)
until afterwards. So a couple of minutes go by and she starts screaming and I freaked the fuck out and I look over and there's blood everywhere, all on the concrete. She's holding her face and there's blood everywhere. She knocked her tooth out. She knocked her tooth out. mind you too, it was in front of an ATM. So I'm sure there's probably video.

footage of this. Yeah, somewhere, maybe not now, but I couldn't believe it. I was like, oh my God. And so you go into just like emergency mode and we are all our whole group. We are all fucked up. And so here she is holding her face. She was supposed to go to some family thing. We're on. Oh, this was in December. So, you know, we're on like holiday break or whatever. So she was supposed to go to her.

Mara DeMauro (19:02)
Camera. Yeah. Right.

Renee (19:30)
family's place and we pick up her tooth off the ground because someone was like, put it in milk so you can save it. ⁓ dude. No, and there's no saving it. Like I saw her. I'm like, my God, no, no. And so we go back. We don't even call. Don't call an ambulance. Don't call anybody. We just walk back to the place that we were staying at, put her fricking tooth in milk.

Mara DeMauro (19:41)
Yeah!

Renee (20:00)
And I'm like sitting by her bedside being like, do you need anything? And she's like, no. And it was just, I came away from it not as injured, but I had this huge ⁓ scrape on my face, on my chin that ended up scarring a little bit. And she ended up having to redirect and completely

Mara DeMauro (20:08)
Cheers.

Renee (20:28)
change her plans, not go, oh no, I think she was going somewhere with maybe her boyfriend at the time or something. So instead she had to go home. She had to get surgeries eventually because of all of this, has to get like a fake tooth, all this craziness. Like it was terrible. And so I had a hand in that and funny enough,

Mara DeMauro (20:42)
Cheers.

Yeah.

Renee (20:58)
She actually reached out to me recently and was telling me how she has been alcohol free for something like three years or something like that. So we've actually kind of reconnected recently. So it's kind of funny how all of this is unfolding, but.

Mara DeMauro (21:08)
Amazing.

So wild.

Renee (21:14)
I just think about that. And of course I come home and I wasn't even really, it was like another story to tell. My parents weren't really, I don't know, not that I would want them to be necessarily super angry with me or anything, but I don't remember it being that big of a deal.

Mara DeMauro (21:25)
Right, right.

Yeah.

Renee (21:42)
It was

kind of just like a ha ha. Oh my God. Can't believe that happened. That's so crazy when it's like something worse definitely gonna happen. We could have rolled into the street. could have, you know, thank God it didn't happen that way. But it just makes me realize how vulnerable we make ourselves for this thing. For what? You know, you can have those same really fun

Mara DeMauro (21:51)
100%.

Yeah. Yeah.

Renee (22:12)
stories. I wouldn't say that this is like a really fun story, but you can make memories, ones that you actually remember and have a really good time and be entertaining without fucking injuring yourself. That one is just one that sticks with me because I felt responsible for the well-being of somebody else and she was younger than me.

Mara DeMauro (22:19)
Right.

Yeah. Yeah.

Renee (22:40)
also. And so I just felt this responsibility and I completely blew that shit out the water. zero. Yeah, follow my lead. I'm like, jump on my back. And then literally like a rag doll hitting the freaking pavement, dude. And I'm just like rolling around. Oh my God, I can't believe that happened. And here she is like blood curdling.

Mara DeMauro (22:40)
Hmm.

Hahaha

Follow my lead, girl.

Renee (23:08)
screaming because her face hit the pavement and knocked her tooth out. Yeah. Yeah. And so, yeah, I mean, I think for me, it's a culmination of instances like that. And I want to say that it didn't happen again, but it happened again. Not the exact same scenario, but my 31st birthday, I had my

Mara DeMauro (23:14)
Ugh. Ugh.

right.

Renee (23:37)
brother and my sister-in-law in town. I even remember, I was telling you this before we started recording, I even remember telling myself that I wasn't going to drink that much. I was like, nope, this is my 31st year. I'm going to ring in this year being the best that I could be and trying to get fit. And this is my wellness journey. and, you know, I'm not going to do what I normally do.

and get so excited and forget how much I drink while that happened. And I got drunk and we were watching a movie and I was getting up and the blanket somehow wrapped around my foot and your reaction time just isn't there. And I fell face first onto the ground, dude.

Mara DeMauro (24:09)
Hmm.

you

Renee (24:33)
And my husband comes to my house. It's it's no, it's no and void at that point. Like alcohol is taken over and my my brother was just like both of them. My sister and my brother were just in shock. They were silent because I didn't move afterwards. I didn't like get up and be like, ⁓ man, holy shit. Or I didn't even try and brace myself. It was literally like a tree falling.

Mara DeMauro (24:33)
Your reaction time just isn't there.

Mmm.

What?

Renee (25:02)
straight down to the ground.

Mara DeMauro (25:05)
Damn, dude.

Renee (25:06)
And my poor husband wasn't even in the room at the time. And so he comes running out, dude, kid you not, next morning, I was the last one up, so hungover, felt like shit. I come out, they're making breakfast and I'm like twisting my neck. I'm like, oh, why is my face hurt so bad?

They said, Nate, do you not remember literally face planning? No, I don't. I vaguely like brown out sort of remember since they told me.

Mara DeMauro (25:40)
Yeah. Damn. You and your face plants. That's your party trick.

Renee (25:41)
but nope, nope, don't remember any of it. I mean,

I know, apparently it's like I literally ragdoll and forget all feeling in my body, just, especially for how I feel like I'm pretty athletic and I have like good reaction time, you know? And it just, it, yeah, I mean, even when I would drink too and sometimes I would.

Mara DeMauro (25:53)
my gosh.

Yeah, yeah.

Renee (26:08)
which maybe I need to get this checked out, but sometimes I would drop my drinks because I would just like, really? Dude, I would just be like sitting there drinking and all of a sudden I would drop my drink. I'm like, what the fuck just happened? Literally I lose like feeling in my hand and it would just fall. I'm like, my God, am I that drunk? ⁓ Yeah, so it's just so after that and then, you know, going back to just like,

Mara DeMauro (26:13)
Me too! Me too. Yes.

Yes.

Yeah, 100%. Same.

Yeah.

Renee (26:37)
if you want to learn more about either both of our stories, those were our first two episodes, but to get into more why on why we decided to become or look into Sober Curiosity or just kind of reevaluate. yeah, it was just a series and string of events like that where I didn't want to be the joke anymore. I didn't want to wake up the next morning.

not knowing that I injured myself, not knowing what I said. It started affecting my relationships with mainly, I would say, my husband. And I don't think it was more on his end. I think it was more my own insecurity of being embarrassing to him and for myself, like my own self-respect.

Mara DeMauro (27:29)
Hmm.

Renee (27:32)
And I remember I would see people being just so sloppy and for some reason thinking that I wasn't like that. I'm untouchable in that way. But just the culmination of all that and just feeling the shame and the guilt of waking up of, fuck, I did that again. Or what did I say to embarrass my family or myself? ⁓

Mara DeMauro (27:45)
Mmm...

It's so interesting you bring up like the untouchable piece because I feel like the same, like looking back, I'm like, my God, I was sloppy. I'm sloppy when I'm drinking and, ⁓ but for some reason I think I thought I wasn't.

Renee (28:02)
God, should, yeah.

Yeah.

Right, right. And the aggression

piece, dude, I was the same. That's another contention too, just with relationships. would, for some reason in college is where it sort of flipped. Cause before then I was the happy-go-lucky fun, I love you, I love you girl. You know, the, love you drunk. And something happened in college where I started becoming aggressive and

Mara DeMauro (28:41)
Yep.

Renee (28:50)
picking fights and saying shit and just kind of being an instigator. And that like bled over into my relationships with people. And that's also just kind of fed the shame and stuff too. It's like, shit, did I like start something again? You know, out of nowhere too, for kind of no reason. So just that irritability and that aggression, that...

Mara DeMauro (28:59)
Yeah.

Renee (29:20)
bubbled up probably from trying to suppress a lot of those things. So yeah. Yeah.

Mara DeMauro (29:21)
Right.

Right. Yeah, totally. ⁓

Also too, like, because you brought up like how you used to hydrate, try to hydrate before in this and that. ⁓ I remember in college, we would, it was one of my ex-boyfriend's friends. He would bring out, you know, the milk thistle, the this, vitamin, that, know, your daily rate. Yeah. All your stuff here, take this, and then you're not going to have a hangover. And

Renee (29:44)
vitamin B.

Mara DeMauro (29:51)
I was like so about that life. was like, I need to take this, this and this. And it's just so interesting. Like I guarantee you could take a whole bottle of milk thistle now and I'd still die. I was just probably younger and could handle it. ⁓

Renee (30:05)
or like drink

Tito's, because you don't get a hangover from Tito's. Put Mio and Tito's and just all of these workarounds to not being hung over. It's just like.

Mara DeMauro (30:08)
Yes.

Yes.

Right. Right. Like, there was just, there really was, a piece missing about like the actual effects of alcohol on our bodies. And, and I think it's, it's all related because we're learning so much more about the health of our bodies and how it's not just like, I don't know. It's not just like, it's our whole system. Like our organs, our livers are so important and responsible for

Renee (30:41)
Right.

Mara DeMauro (30:45)
our entire bodily function, and then we're putting substances that go through it and affect it directly. And so I think everything is evolving, so it makes sense, but I'm just like, dang, what is that? I do, I wonder right now. I think that'd be really interesting to talk to college kids at this point who do have more accessibility to all this information. What is it like?

Renee (30:48)
our gut, our brain.

Yeah.

Mara DeMauro (31:14)
⁓

cause surely y'all still partying hard, but I'm just curious how that's changing and you know, all of that. know that we're kind of. That's like a whole nother topic, but.

Renee (31:24)
Yeah.

Yeah, no, and I think it's the kids now to... I think I sent you something recently where there's a study that says that that generation isn't drinking as much because they have more knowledge, but this study was saying, it's because they're broke.

Mara DeMauro (31:45)
Right, right.

Renee (31:46)
Which was, I just hadn't heard that before, but yeah, I just would, I would love to know that perspective. But then also how there's so many more studies coming out on how it affects women in particular, which it affects women. And I don't have the research backed right now to like quote it or anything, but I'm pretty sure it does affect women more than it does men. And I can't tell you in what ways, but.

I know physically it does. So there's just so much more coming out about how it really is affecting our bodies and the things that we've kind of grew up knowing about alcohol are being debunked. And I think the proof is there when we start removing it, just how we feel personally, know, our stories and what we've been through and how I feel on the other side of that.

Mara DeMauro (32:37)
Right.

Renee (32:44)
part of myself and I'm just so grateful to be on this side of it and for everything that's happened up until this point because there's so many different milestones and so many things that have happened to allow me to get to this point. And I'm just happy that I've made these choices to better my physical health. And just this morning, I got up, went on a walk at 730.

for an hour and there's just no way that I would do that. especially after a 31st birthday, especially after drinking like that, there's just, there's no way.

Mara DeMauro (33:27)
Yeah. Yeah. And I think too, something to keep in mind is like, you know, we all have these, ha ha funny stories, you know, but we also have heard the absolute like tragic stories as well. And. Gosh, I just. Yeah, I feel really grateful that nothing really seriously bad happened to me because it can happen to anyone.

Renee (33:53)
It makes me realize how lucky.

Yeah.

Mara DeMauro (33:56)
And

it's happened to people that I know. And it's just like, for, you know, for what, like, why, why do we, you what do we do this for? And we don't have to do this and you're not alone in having these stories and experiences. So yeah, we would love to hear from you all, you know, what are some, some experiences, experiences you've had that have just been like life-changing or like that one story you'll never forget.

Whether it's ⁓ kind of funny or absolutely tragic, you know, we're here to hear you and support you. For sure.

Renee (34:31)
Yeah,

yeah. Well, that wraps up all my stories. I know that I have a whole receipt list of more that I could get into. Like I should show you a picture of, we did pumpkin carving one year. Bruh, my pumpkin looks like it's melting.

Mara DeMauro (34:42)
yeah.

Renee (34:51)
It's so embarrassing, tragic, very tragic. Anyways, okay. Well, thank you guys so much for listening. As Mara said, we'd love to hear from you, love to hear some feedback. Any other topics that you want us to cover, we're here and there's not really any topic I don't think that we wouldn't cover. So we're an open book. We want to get this conversation going and just give access to some of these resources because you are not alone in this.

 where can they find you Mara?

Mara DeMauro (35:32)
Yeah, you can find me on the gram at Mara DiMaro.

Renee (35:36)
Yeah, and you can find me at coach underscore r Adams and stay tuned because we've got some exciting news coming up in these next couple of weeks. So yeah, stay tuned. Until next time. Bye.

Mara DeMauro (35:48)
Sweet, check you later.

Bye.