Brother Sister Whatever
A comedy podcast about siblings, family chaos, emotional spirals, and oversharing gone wild.
Hosted by real-life siblings Lisa and Josh, Brother Sister Whatever is your bi-weekly dose of hilarious banter, hot takes, nostalgic throwbacks, and unfiltered real talk.
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No Chill #10: Introvert, Extrovert, or Something In-Between?
Are you truly an introvert, extrovert, or something else entirely? This captivating exploration of personality types ventures beyond simplistic labels to uncover the fluid nature of our social batteries and how they shape our interactions.
We journey through the fascinating spectrum of personality types, introducing listeners to ambiverts (balanced individuals with traits from both sides) and omniverts (those who dramatically shift between extremes depending on circumstances or company). The conversation reveals how our social tendencies evolve throughout our lives, with many reporting more extroverted behaviors in youth followed by an appreciation for solitude as they age.
Debunking persistent myths forms a cornerstone of our discussion, particularly challenging the stereotype that introverts make poor leaders. The evidence? Look no further than powerhouse introverts like Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and Michael Jordan—all revolutionaries in their respective fields despite their reserved tendencies.
One particularly thought-provoking segment explores a world where everyone wore visible meters displaying their current social battery level. How would this change our interactions? Would it foster greater empathy when someone seems withdrawn, rather than taking their behavior personally?
For parents and partners navigating relationships with different personality types, we offer practical insights on balancing needs and expectations. The key lies in understanding that differences in social energy aren't personal—they're simply part of what makes each of us unique.
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Welcome to Brother, sister, whatever where real talk meets zero chill. I'm Lisa.
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Speaker 1:Are you the life of the party or the one making an early exit? Today, we're going to dive in to what it means to be an introvert, extrovert or ambivert, breaking down the stereotypes and exploring how our social batteries really work.
Speaker 2:Oh boy.
Speaker 1:What do you think introvert? Extrovert means Like? What's your definition of it?
Speaker 2:Oh, this is. You know, I'm really not good at this stuff. So I think introvert means like I'm more to myself. Extrovert is like I'm more open, that's all I know.
Speaker 1:Well, you're right, that's the overall picture of it, but recently I discovered that there's actually like a middle ground.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Which is an ambivert.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Or an omnivert, and I'll tell you what the difference is between the two, because I obviously I looked into this because I was very interested. Ambivert is like a balanced mixed of both introvert and extrovert. Okay, okay, so kind of like in the middle yeah and an omnivert is somebody that can drastically change between the two.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, okay, that would be me.
Speaker 1:Like one would look at that person and be like. That's a personality change completely.
Speaker 2:That's kind of how I am.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it depends on who I'm with.
Speaker 1:What would you call yourself? An introvert or an extrovert?
Speaker 2:If I only had those choices, yeah, yourself an introvert or an extrovert. If I only had those choices, yeah, if I only had those choices. I think I've always considered myself introvert. Okay, you know where. I'm just kind of like more to myself. But I think people in my personal life might say yes, I think people who see me on the outside, I think they would be like what? Like no, josh is not introvert at all.
Speaker 1:Have you always felt like you were an introvert?
Speaker 2:Um no More when I, as I got older, Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So when you were a kid, you were more like extroverted.
Speaker 2:For sure.
Speaker 1:So I want to see, like, what the actual like traits were for each of these. And introvert is somebody. It's all about what makes you feel energized inside, and so, whether that's quiet solitude being alone makes you feel more energized, or being around people, Makes you energized. Makes you energized. So it's all about the energy level that determines which part of the scale you're on.
Speaker 2:Interesting Right yeah.
Speaker 1:I always thought that I was an introvert. I had friends, I enjoyed spending time doing things, but I really loved just being alone reading book or quiet, just being in the quiet. But now that I'm aware that there's an ambivert and an omnivert, I could say in some ways that I'm an ambivert. I'm able to kind of have a balance between the two.
Speaker 2:Also, don't you think that it has something to do with who your circle is?
Speaker 1:Who you're choosing to spend time with, yeah, and what personality type they are, or just in general? Just in general.
Speaker 2:I mean because the way I look at it is like if we're saying that this brings us joy let's say, but also we're saying like, oh yeah, being out or with people like this doesn't interest me.
Speaker 2:Could there also be an argument that it might also have to do with the people we're hanging out with, because I have a couple people where, when I'm with them, it's like I could be crazy. You know, okay, I don't mean crazy like stupid, you know, I just mean like crazy. You know, like like laughing, fucking, like you know, on the whole opposite spectrum of what I would normally. And then others it's like you know I'm sitting down and it's like yeah, yeah, sure you know what I mean like it's like completely the other side of the like you could sit in silence and watch something, or even just sit in silence sometimes like have have that few minutes.
Speaker 2:With people.
Speaker 1:With people, yeah, and just sit in silence? Well, to me that would be an ambivert.
Speaker 2:Maybe, but it could be extreme right.
Speaker 1:Okay, so for you, you feel like it's more extreme.
Speaker 2:Well, I think it's extreme, because I'll have people say why are you so quiet? You know like what's wrong, are you okay? I get like what's wrong, are you okay? I get that all what's wrong, are you okay? So, depending on the person that you're with, yeah, and then with other people they're like damn, they're like, I had no idea you were so crazy.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Interesting.
Speaker 2:And it depends on if it's something new or something not new.
Speaker 1:Like what.
Speaker 2:Like, if I go to a new restaurant that I've never been there before and I'm with half of the people I've never met before, I'm automatically going to be more introverted Versus if I go with a group of people that I'm used to, it's a restaurant where, like, I know the waiters and whatever I might be on the other spectrum, and if I'm with my kids, I'm always in introvert mode, you know, because that's just how I am. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1:So I know this is why it's yeah, but that's the thing, like I wonder if everybody kind of experiences the full spectrum.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And if that, even if it's not even so much as like a global thing, but maybe like okay with certain people or certain times in their lives, like ages, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:That's it Like what if you're thinking of someone and you're saying, oh no, this person is for sure introverted, but then what if they're only like that with you? So then what does that mean? Are they introverted or are they not introverted, Are they?
Speaker 1:meeting your vibe or are you meeting theirs?
Speaker 2:Well, that's it. And then what does that mean? Is that ambivert where it's in between, where you kind of pick up on the volume of where you're at? To not sound so confusing, I would say that as I'm getting older, I'm noticing, like you know. I just want peace.
Speaker 1:Mellow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I go. I went on a vacation recently and I think 99% of the time I was relaxing Versus like let's you know.
Speaker 1:Go discover this part of the island.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which I did, you know which I did, but I had the most enjoyment when I was just kind of looking at the ocean, chilling versus that would never be me when I was younger. I'd be like, hey, I want to do something, like I don't want to just sit here, you know, and like, look at the water, like yeah, it's.
Speaker 1:It's just. It's funny how circumstances, alcohol, the different kinds of people that you ages, everything just changes the vibe that you put out in terms of personality and how you react to people and what makes you happiest. It's just interesting so now we're going to ask the weekly what if question. Ask the Weekly what If? Question. What if everyone had to wear a visible meter showing their social battery level? It's almost like a bracelet that says oh, I'm an introvert, extrovert. How would that change social interactions?
Speaker 2:Whoa. Well, I think it would change things a lot. Yeah, I think it would change things a lot. Yeah, I think it would. I'm I'm kind of surprised, actually, now that I think of it, that there isn't um, like, uh, like that doesn't exist on like facebook, you know, like introvert, extrovert, or you know like, think about it, it's true. You know like watch, watch, watch, it be created now someone's listening to. Yeah, I think it would change things a little bit.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's like anything really right, when you know more than you normally would about the stranger, you automatically you know, like I don't know what to say. You know like. So, for example, if I meet someone and I'm like, hey, how's it going? And oh, okay, your bracelet, you know, and it says you're introvert, you know, and when you say like battery, do you mean like it shows how much energy they have? Like right now, like I'm at like a 20%. So it's like, oh, I'm not going to talk to this person. This person has no energy right now. Yeah, maybe, you know, usually you find that out in a few moments after talking to the person.
Speaker 1:Right. So that would kind of preemptively Like hey, my name's.
Speaker 2:Lisa, how are you? Yeah, I'm good. Thanks, it's like okay, their battery level is pretty low, right, you know? It might explain a few things, though Instead of maybe taking it personal, you might say oh well, okay, look, see the battery level.
Speaker 1:That's a good. That's a good point. Didn't think of that. I think there's assholes everywhere, and so I don't think.
Speaker 2:I think we can all be an asshole a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I mean, I think there's assholes everywhere in the sense that they don't give a shit about your social battery level. I want this or I need this, or whatever. They're coming with their own stuff right For sure.
Speaker 2:Now imagine if it showed a list of everyone's boundaries. There's a bracelet with all the boundaries there. A digital you know pops up like this, you know, and it's just like, okay, these are all the boundaries there. A digital you know pops up like this, you know, and it's just like, okay, these are all the boundaries. Wow, imagine that. Yeah, I think you're right. I think there's some people that would not respect the boundary of the introvert. Extrovert people would take advantage to a degree or or just not bother with.
Speaker 1:I would like to think that there would be a little bit of compromise and understanding. I think so.
Speaker 2:I think there's people that are already like that, just from you know, I think I'd like to think that I'm one of them If I'm talking to someone and I see that they're not feeling great or that they're depressed, or you know. I mean depression can look like so many things, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I would be one to be like oh, you know, I'm going to maybe be quiet, just because you know I care about how the other people think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, interesting Okay.
Speaker 2:I like that. That's a good. What if, though?
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay. So what is one of the biggest myths about introverts? That they're not leadership material.
Speaker 2:Oh, really, is this a fact yeah?
Speaker 1:Based on the research that I did, that they lack social skills.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that they're unfriendly, that they don't have fun, that they're unfriendly, that they don't have fun.
Speaker 2:That they're unfriendly. Yeah, oh boy.
Speaker 1:Did you know some of the more popular introverts in the world? Can you guess off the top of your head what you think?
Speaker 2:Like we're talking like massive celebrities. Celebrities or public figures Elon Musk 100%. Definitely yes. Bill Gates 100%.
Speaker 1:Yes, you got two out of three.
Speaker 2:And then Warren Buffett 100%.
Speaker 1:Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, 100%, yeah, a hundred percent.
Speaker 1:All famous introverts.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But look at what they've managed to accomplish.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So not leadership material.
Speaker 2:Not true.
Speaker 1:Not true.
Speaker 2:No yeah, even though they all have very different leadership styles.
Speaker 1:Of course, okay. So now what about extroverts? When you think of an extrovert, you think life of a party, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So, like you know, all those rock and rollers you know, uh, the Beatles you know, and all those guys uh, like you have to be some, you have to have some form of of of extroverting you to be able to go out and and do that every day, like day in, day out.
Speaker 2:For sure, for sure. Like Ariana Grande, a hundred percent is an extrovert. She has to be, she has to be.
Speaker 1:Do you think that extroverts are always on?
Speaker 2:No, I don't think so. I think there's.
Speaker 1:I think everybody has to have a downtime.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1:What do you think extroverts do for downtime?
Speaker 2:I don't know, go like skydiving or something, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Well, think, about it like reading a book or taking a walk, a solo walk, right. Those are things that are not necessarily only an introvert.
Speaker 2:True.
Speaker 1:So ambiverts, do you think that they're the most balanced personality type? It's based on levels, right, social levels. Yeah. So if you looked at it from that perspective, would an ambivert be the most balanced? Or, technically, are all of them have their own balance in their own way.
Speaker 2:Way over my head. Yeah, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like a thought provoking thing, though, you know.
Speaker 2:When was this word created?
Speaker 1:What Introvert.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know that sounds maybe funny, but like, like, is this a new thing or is this always been like our? Our, our, our great great grandparents talked about introvert and extrovert I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know when it was created. You'll have to look it up on your phone if you want to check all right, let's find out 1921 okay, so like 100 years yeah yeah, so oh wow, introverts focused inward, gaining energy from solitude. Was there, like a doctor, a specific doctor?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Or it was popularized by Carl Jung in his 1921 book Psychological Times. Jung's ideas were later expanded by Eysnick in the 1940s yeah, Interesting. And then the concepts became more mainstream in the mid-20th century. So the 1940s, yeah. And then the concepts became more mainstream in the mid-20th century.
Speaker 1:So the, 50s.
Speaker 2:Similar ideas existed in philosophy and psychology. Ancient Greek physicians proposed temperaments based on bodily humors that loosely corresponded to introversion and extroversion. So while the specific term introvert and extrovert became widely recognized in the early 20th century, the underlying ideas have been around for centuries in different forms.
Speaker 1:In different forms. Well, there you go. Okay, quickfire opinions. Workplace stereotypes Are extroverts better leaders. We've already discussed that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't necessarily think that extroverts make better leaders, you agree.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Dating and friendship. Is it easier for extroverts to form connections? Oh boy, I'm going to say no.
Speaker 2:I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 1:I think everybody forms connections in their own way. I don't think it's exclusive to extroverts. Are people too quick to label themselves introverts or extroverts? I don't know if it's too quick. I don't think it's too quick. I think you know yourself.
Speaker 2:I don't even think about those terms.
Speaker 1:Well, right. So, it's not like you're going through your day-to-day thing saying I'm an introvert.
Speaker 2:Right, you know like no yeah.
Speaker 1:But you do know what kind of a personality style? Well, you said it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I'm omni Okay. Yeah, I think Okay. Still confusing.
Speaker 1:I know, I know Again, introvert, extrovert is very clear and defined. But then the omnivore and the ambivore. You're like, okay, but like what? If I like this? Like what does it put me? You know, like. I think maybe now we're putting too much pressure on labeling ourselves. Personality tests Do you think they're helpful or do you think it's like pseudoscience?
Speaker 2:I don't know A little bit here and there. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think that can be fun. Certain ones obviously can be fun. I do find it helpful a little bit. I like knowing what makes me tick. Now I understand myself better, almost Okay, can you train yourself to be more extroverted or more introverted?
Speaker 2:Probably.
Speaker 1:But what do you think would be easier, if you were an extrovert, training yourself to be more introverted, or if you were an introvert, training yourself to be more extroverted?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think it would be easier if you were an extrovert training yourself to be more introverted.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess. So that would probably be easier. Actually, now that I think of it, it would be easier because you don't have to put yourself out there like the introvert would have to. You know, in that, sense.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh, one last question though.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:What if you're married or in a relationship or, even better, if your children have different personality types than you? How would you handle it? I?
Speaker 2:think my kids do. It's about making sure that you understand that you know they're not supposed to be you. I try to accommodate whatever they're doing or feeling or whatever you know. So if one is more introverted or feeling or whatever you know, so if one is more introverted, I try to help that one. Focus on you know, whatever that might entail.
Speaker 1:That they love, for example that they love, you know.
Speaker 2:And then the one who's the opposite, I'll you know.
Speaker 1:Okay, so here's the thing. So let's say you're more introverted, like myself, and your kids want to have playdates because they're extroverted, and your kids want to have play dates because they're extroverted and they always want to have other kids over. How do you deal with that kind of a thing?
Speaker 2:I do it, you do it does it drive you nuts?
Speaker 1:a little yeah a little so you just put up with it for sure how do you recharge afterwards?
Speaker 2:you know, then I'm alone, I take my, I go to bed at eight you know, or whatever there you go but. But I think it's important that they have their things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know well, I guess it's the same thing as as work, right? Okay, you owning your own business, you have to have kind of like a shift in you're meeting them where they are, so to speak exactly, and so the same kind of thing applies.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then you just go home and recharge the way you need to recharge, so you have a higher social level.
Speaker 2:That's it.
Speaker 1:Or your battery is charged up for the next day, right?
Speaker 2:That's it. That's it. You have no choice. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, that's it for today, everybody. If you like this, please hit like and subscribe. New episodes drop every Thursday.
Speaker 2:Drop your hot take in the comments. We want to hear it. See you next time on Brother, Sister, whatever.
