Brother Sister Whatever
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No Chill #11: The Art of Leisure: Exploring Personal Passions and Creative Outlets
What transforms a simple activity into a meaningful hobby? Is it the joy of creation, the thrill of skill-building, or perhaps the escape it provides from everyday pressures?
In this thought-provoking episode, we peel back the layers on what makes our favorite pastimes so essential to our wellbeing and identity. Josh opens up about his newfound passion for collecting Dragon Ball Z cards alongside his son's One Piece collection, while I've rediscovered the simple pleasure of drawing—both for myself and as quality time with my kids. These personal connections set the stage for a deeper conversation about what fuels our leisure pursuits.
We tackle some fascinating questions: Does a hobby need to involve skill development, or is pure enjoyment enough? When does a healthy interest cross the line into unhealthy escapism? Should certain activities remain sacred spaces for enjoyment rather than being monetized? Josh shares vulnerably about how gaming once served as his primary coping mechanism during difficult times, highlighting the complex psychology behind what draws us to certain activities.
What surprised us most was realizing how our perception of other people's hobbies has evolved with age. Things we might have dismissed in our twenties—like collecting colognes or maintaining extensive movie libraries—now fascinate us. This growing appreciation reflects a broader maturity that comes with life experience.
Whether you're passionate about creative expression, skill-building, or simply finding moments of peace in a chaotic world, this conversation will inspire you to reflect on the activities that bring meaning to your life beyond work and responsibilities. Share your own hobby journey in the comments, and subscribe for new episodes every Thursday!
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Speaker 1:All right Hobbies.
Speaker 2:Hobbies.
Speaker 1:What's a recent hobby that you've?
Speaker 2:A recent hobby. Oh, I just just just started collecting Dragon Ball Z cards.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And my son is doing One Piece, so we're kind of collecting together.
Speaker 1:What's One Piece?
Speaker 2:One Piece. It's an anime there.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's a okay.
Speaker 2:The Pirates there. I'm sure your kids have watched it, I don't know. There's even a real show of it on Netflix now. Really One Piece, it's really good. I actually watched the show Okay.
Speaker 1:I'll have to check it out, jet is obsessed the anime.
Speaker 2:there's like 700 episodes or something. He's on like 576.
Speaker 1:How long are they? How long are the episodes like?
Speaker 2:Probably 20, 30 minutes.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, wow, that's dedication.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he loves it.
Speaker 1:So, okay, cool For me it's um, that's one of the hobbies I've been doing. Oh, you know what I've been doing lately with the kids? What Drawing.
Speaker 2:Oh, no way.
Speaker 1:Like art. I used to take art in high school. I'm like drawing and stuff like that and I I really I don't know. It's kind of peaceful and nice, but I wanted to also do something with the kids, Kind of like make it a twofer, but yeah, it's really fun. We found this Art for Kids hub on YouTube channel.
Speaker 2:Oh cool.
Speaker 1:And I've been doing different things.
Speaker 2:That's awesome, yeah, so it's kind of fun. I like it. Speaking of art there, my kids, they go with their mom to the ceramic cafe. Like all the time they bring cups and all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1:They bring their own stuff.
Speaker 2:I wonder if you can Sorry you bring home. They bring home stuff.
Speaker 1:I just forgot what you were saying. Yes, Sorry. I was like oh, you could bring your own cups, Because that would definitely save money.
Speaker 2:It's so expensive, is it? I don't know how much it is.
Speaker 1:It's like I don't think I've spent less than $100.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:Because it's not just're you're buying the ceramic, but then you're also buying your time there, Right, and like the paints and all of that. Still, it's like, yeah, During the pandemic they had a, a, like a do it yourself at home kit that you could buy.
Speaker 2:It's been around for a while.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh wow yeah.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know about it until very recent. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 1:It's fun. So hobbies, they aren't just like time fillers. They're how we explore creativity, unwind and sometimes even find our communities. Today, we're going to dig into the value of hobbies, why we pick them and how they shape our identities.
Speaker 2:Love it, so this is a fun one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how would you define a hobby?
Speaker 2:Something I like to do.
Speaker 1:Okay, so enjoyment.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Do you think skill has anything to do with it?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But do you think you have to have skill in order to have a hobby? No, or enjoy a hobby.
Speaker 2:I think that's also part of it. You build the skills of the hobby you're into. Right you get better at it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You know, what if you don't?
Speaker 2:Well then you suck, but you can still enjoy it. Yeah, you can still. You know, I mean, how many times do we hear stuff like that? I mean, I suck at it, but you know, I love doing it, yeah.
Speaker 1:Or, like I mentioned the other day, the last episode or something. I think it was like knitting I just want to knit and I can't seem to fucking get it. That'll probably be. If I stick with that. That'll probably be a hobby that's going to take me a while to get a skill at, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:Plus it takes forever just to do like the blankets and stuff. I know.
Speaker 1:I was just aiming for like a little handkerchief or something.
Speaker 2:Fallon got one made from her mom and it took a year. Wow, but it's nice. It's a nice big, big blanket.
Speaker 1:She knows how to knit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm jealous, yeah, but I mean, you know, she just kind of started right and now she's really good at it yeah. Because she's been doing it for the whole year and now she just started Jets Blanket Nice.
Speaker 1:Let's start with our weekly what if? What if you could only keep one hobby for the rest of your life?
Speaker 2:What would it be and why Does fitness working out? Is that a hobby? Or is that like, because I feel like it's a necessity, but I also feel like it's a hobby, but I also feel like sometimes it's a pain in the ass. So, like, what do you define?
Speaker 1:Okay, so maybe it's different for everybody. Okay, so maybe it's different for everybody. But let's say, I think that going to the gym would not be a hobby. Would not be a hobby. Okay.
Speaker 2:What is it?
Speaker 1:that you do or that you're interested in there where it's like bodybuilding.
Speaker 2:Bodybuilding could be a hobby, okay.
Speaker 1:But that involves going to the gym. I don't know. I feel like going to the gym is a pretty. Can you think of another hobby?
Speaker 2:Well, because this is what I'm saying, like, if you're telling me you know the weekly what if is, you know if you can only pick one hobby, if, if, if working out is in that category, then obviously I'm going to pick that because I need to do it. But if you told me but that's the thing.
Speaker 1:Ah, ah, there, that's the word. Need to do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I need to do it.
Speaker 1:Okay, so it's not a need.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:It's a want, it's a desire.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So in that case then I would probably say the only other hobby that I really have is a little bit of gaming here and there.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:You know, like I mentioned the new hobby I just got into, right, you know.
Speaker 1:But but you wouldn't want to like. If you could only pick one hobby for the rest of your life, you probably wouldn't want to collect.
Speaker 2:I think it would be a little bit more entertainment-wise. Okay, Like the games, and you know PS5, or like you know, the computer.
Speaker 1:Okay, so gaming for you. Okay, that's cool. Yeah, if I could only pick one hobby, I'm going to stick with my art. I actually kind of really like it.
Speaker 2:Well, that's good, that's good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to stick with or without the kids. That's good. Yeah, I'm going to stick with or without the kids, okay. I would stick with that drawing, Love it Drawing specifically. Yeah, Do you think that the social aspect is important with a hobby?
Speaker 2:Yes and no, I mean, I guess it depends on the hobby, right, yes and no, I mean, I guess it depends on the hobby right? Um, you know, in, in, in, in senses of of me gaming, right, it can go. It can go, you know, from the left to the right, because there are plenty of games where it's just solo yep, just you, just you, that's it, that's all. And then you have games that, like must be with other people.
Speaker 1:Right, like the online community games and stuff like that. Exactly so you can have the best of both worlds with that.
Speaker 2:You can have the best of both worlds, you know. So that's the great thing about that hobby, right, and I mean technically, most hobbies can go either way.
Speaker 1:Go either way, even reading books as hobbies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you'd have a book club, exactly, yeah, yeah, it's true, it's true Same.
Speaker 1:Like, so for me, with the art or drawing, it would be like participating in an art class.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Would be the community or social aspect of it, or even just a community of like posting your art Right, of like posting your art Right, and then people like oh wow, I love it. You know?
Speaker 1:Yeah for sure. So let's break down the different aspects of hobbies. Okay, okay. So there's the creative expression, there's the skill building, the social connection and then the mental health benefits. So all of those things, okay, let's start with creative expression. How can they help us tap into creativity? Do you want to stick with your gaming or do you want to do a more broad?
Speaker 2:It'll depend on the category.
Speaker 1:Okay If I were to stick with art or drawing. I think that's pretty self-explanatory. I mean it is creativity it is creativity right. Yeah yeah, you can draw endless amount of things that exist or don't exist. You can make up your own. It could be abstract, it could be so. There's tons of creativity in that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, creativity in the games I think is more on the style of games that you kind of get into. You know. There's creativity in the sense that you know, if you get really good at that hobby you could even be like a coach or you can help other people, and so there's a lot of ways that I think creativity can come out of it. It can even create a business out of it, you know, in the sense of gaming. I mean, look how much Twitch streamers. So to me that's creative Going from man. I really like this game to like huh, I'm not bad, maybe people will like watching me. And then to me that's another form of art in many ways.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, for sure, riley is also a gamer, loves playing games, and now he's into creating his own games oh wow, that's awesome you know writing his own stories and creating characters and all of that stuff, so it sparks creativity in him big time. I know it's huge it's insane some of the ideas this kids wow kids. Wow Kids have. Do you think? All hobbies have to be creative though.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:I don't think so either.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know, and I think it depends on where you go with that hobby. I mean, the first thing I think about is my dad, our dad. Yeah, you know, remember back in the day the little comics he used to make, and it was for no one, it was just for him.
Speaker 2:It was just for him and it was for, like the buddies at work and they'd laugh about it or whatever. But like fuck man, like dad could have. If he had even just an ounce of entrepreneurship, man he could have taken. I think he could have went far with that.
Speaker 1:You kidding me? Everything goes back to entrepreneurship for you.
Speaker 2:No, but it's true, you know, I think you could, I think he could have, like, literally made art for tattoo artists. I think he could have made a lot of things you know with, with how artistic he was. You know, I I did not get that fucking skill. No, Fuck, no man. But, you know I make stick, men that's as far as I go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we kind of discussed a little bit like you don't necessarily need the skill, but the more that you do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it doesn't interest me though.
Speaker 1:Okay, but that's the thing right. So, therein lies the problem or difference whatever.
Speaker 2:But like that is something that was creative, yeah, and a big hobby in some ways of his um. But again, it's just that to the point of what you were saying.
Speaker 2:you know, it's like some people it's like I'm fine with just doing that and then that's it, that's all, like I don't want to turn into a business right how many people or at least I hear that often because because again, always in the entrepreneurship mindset there but someone will make like crazy good cookies or something you know. I'll be like holy shit, I'm like you should fucking open up a goddamn bakery or something you know, and it's like, ah, but then it won't be fun. You know, and, and and I guess you could look at that in any aspect you could be doing your art and you love it, and then you turn it into a business and then all of a sudden you're like, oh fuck, I have to do it now. So there's a difference from having to and wanting to. Same thing with streamers streamers have to go on and fucking stream well, if they want it to be successful and do something.
Speaker 2:Exactly. I'm sure there's tons of streamers or people that post, who are like hobbyists in a sense, where it's like I go on once a month and I stream. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Of course yeah.
Speaker 2:One person's following them. But yeah, that's okay, just like us, yeah, just like us, yeah, just like us. We have one follower, I think, right.
Speaker 1:No, I think we're at three now.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, Okay Guys, did you hear that? Three followers. Please spread the word.
Speaker 1:Do all okay, so do all the hobbies need to be creative? I'm trying to actually think of a hobby that's not necessarily creative, Like reading a book is considered a hobby, but you can't really be creative with that, could you Not really?
Speaker 2:I don't know. Couldn't we argue that reading a book or sorry, the hobby is reading? Couldn't we say that the mind must be creative, like the person's mind must be creative. I feel like people who read you know, I find them so fucking intelligent and like those art people who do, like the crazy, like you know, the big, you know, and it's like all just like blobs of paint everywhere. It's just like wow, like you know, they're so smart, you know, they're so intelligent, you know.
Speaker 1:Well, they're tapping into a part of their brain.
Speaker 2:That's it. The creative, the creative, that's it right. So, like these people that read books I don't know man, I don't know if we could just count them out, because I feel like a lot of these people who, especially, read a lot, like it's their hobby, fuck man, are they ever intelligent? Like I find that their brain is just like something else. So I don't know, I feel like that's considered creativity.
Speaker 1:So what you're saying then and correct me if I'm wrong is that essentially, it's the person that's doing the hobby, as opposed to just the hobby.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So like the brain of the person doing the hobby, whether they're tapped into their creativity or their whatever then therefore makes the hobby creative or not creative.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, skill building Learning a new skill versus enjoying the process.
Speaker 2:Well, you can do both.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Is the goal of a hobby to get better at it.
Speaker 2:No Right.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think so. I think the goal of the hobby is to Love it. Love it, but also to it has to respond to whatever it is that you are seeking. Yeah, in a way that feeling of finishing something, that feeling of comfort, the feeling, of.
Speaker 2:there's plenty of feelings. I feel like that can get mixed up, though. What do you mean?
Speaker 1:Plenty of feelings, I feel like that can get mixed up though.
Speaker 2:What do you mean? I feel like that can get mixed up with escape, and escape could be good, but escape can also be very bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Give me an example my hobby, the games. Oh, I will go to another universe in my head, and it's because I'm trying to escape reality. And so you know, there's, I think, a fine line between this is a hobby and this is something you love versus like just trying to escape my reality just trying to escape reality, where it's like you almost are consumed by it.
Speaker 2:And I think you know some hobbies. People are consumed by them, you know, and for sure, especially in my younger years, that was definitely me, you know, and so yeah, I remember that you kind of mix hobby and you know, or at least you could be mixing.
Speaker 1:Okay, like what? If you suck at your hobby, should you stick to it?
Speaker 2:Again, I think if you love it, you're going to stick to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You know, how hobbies can bring people together. There's the social connection. Have you made friends through a hobby? There you go.
Speaker 2:For sure.
Speaker 1:Online friends right connection. Have you made friends through a hobby? There you go for sure. Online friends right. I remember when we were younger you were really, really, really into what was it ultima online oh my god, yeah at the time, yeah, and it was like you were always in your room yeah, I got so freaking good at that game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and now, like my gaming experience is really just like you know half an hour, 45 minutes of call of duty on PS5.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And now it's and it actually has nothing to do with social interaction anymore, because I don't talk to anyone, I just go on, I shoot people and then, you know, I go on with my day. Yeah, now I'm really hyper focused on all the other things in life.
Speaker 1:Do you think that your hobbies, or the way or the amount of the way that you have hobbies, the amount of time you put into your hobbies, has changed since kids?
Speaker 2:For sure.
Speaker 1:Of course, right, I think. I think that's kind of inevitable.
Speaker 2:For sure, but also I feel like the hobby slash addiction has changed altogether because I stopped. Because you have different priorities, Different priorities you know, but like an addiction is an addiction right Like you can have kids and still be addicted to fucking coke.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean though.
Speaker 2:So like the addiction is still there if I allow it to take over right, like if I, if I do the drug very easily, easy to like, get back into that kind of exactly and I don't, I don't. You know I don't, because I've always said that I have a very addictive personality. You know, I I play my little Call of Duty. I've somehow managed to control PS5. You know what I mean? Yep, it's like I have control PC online community, that's your spot.
Speaker 2:That's where I get trapped. I think it's something to do with my shitty life in my mind at the time and how it made me just feel incredible Escapism. Yeah, exactly, and I think that that's a very dangerous place to be. It's something that I think about Jet often, you know, because Jet can be misunderstood and he has a hobby, like me, which is the games, and he's really good at them. So again, him kind of going into that place.
Speaker 2:But we have to have a few conversations when he starts getting into computers you know, but yeah, and I don't want to, you know, not allow him to do those things. I just want him to kind of because I didn't know those things, like I didn't know that, I didn't know that it was taking me away. You know, you only know that now because of, well, you know, self-help and realizing what that actually did, and you start noticing that everything has a connection to why, versus when you're young, you're just like, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1:You know, like it's just something I love, yeah, so yeah, yeah, I think that I can understand that, though, like that form of escapism, and how it can be very addicting. Like I loved reading books. I was always reading books as a kid and it was like I was in the book. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, and I was living with these characters and living these stories with like one could you know. One could say, oh, you have imagination or whatever, and yeah, I'm sure that's part of it too. But there's like a very fine line sometimes you know, between wanting to like or sorry, between enjoying a book or enjoying an activity or whatever it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And having it like consume and almost become, in a way, like your reality. It's really, yeah, not every hobby can do that. I don't know if knitting could do something like that, but yeah, there's some. There's like little tricky, tricky spots, I think. Yeah, so health benefits and how, like the role that hobbies play in, like relaxation and mindfulness, and has a hobby ever helped you through a tough time or can having too many?
Speaker 2:hobbies become overwhelming. I think that just coincides with what I just said about escape. Yeah, I think that, yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's not helping you through a tough time, it's just.
Speaker 2:You're coping, but theoretically that's helping.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're coping, you're using it, but theoretically that's helping. Yeah, you're coping. You're using it as a coping mechanism. Maybe Exactly, Okay.
Speaker 2:So, and not saying that that's healthy, but just to say that like I guess it can technically go both ways. Yeah, you know, in that sense, and that's the difference, it's about figuring out that that good zone, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What about you when you are doing your art? What do you feel?
Speaker 1:It makes me feel relaxed. It taps in to a little bit of like that creative side of my brain which, for myself in particular, I feel like I haven't really dabbled in for a while, and it's nice to kind of.
Speaker 2:I feel almost like a freshness. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, well, I mean yeah, because you know I just got, even though they hurt as hell, um, but like I just got into massages and uh, you know, because of all the working out and everything, and that freshness that you're talking about, I'm just kind of comparing it because in the sense of like, not that it's a hobby, but just in the sense of like how you feel when you get out of a massage, or how you feel when you're using a stress ball, or how you feel like you know, like oh, okay, I played my game.
Speaker 2:Like I feel good. Okay, I played my game. Like I feel good, like I feel recharged.
Speaker 1:It's all little tools, almost to kind of like replenish you right, exactly yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's what you're saying. The art is doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's kind of giving you this freshness.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and no matter what I'm doing in that creative headspace. So, like I'm saying right now, art, because that's one of my favorite things. But I've also done, you know, some little diamond painting kits or I've dabbled in, you know, writing, again like creative writing, short stories or poems, which I was like. It takes me back to a time when I was younger younger because I did all of those things when I was younger. So it makes me feel like, okay, I haven't lost all of these parts of myself that have kind of been dormant for a while, which makes that, in and of itself, makes me feel that spark, hobby hot takes. Should hobbies stay hobbies or is it cool to turn them into jobs?
Speaker 2:Yes or no?
Speaker 1:I think it's cool to turn them into jobs. Okay, I knew you would say that, Mr Entrepreneur over there, I'm going to say in the middle yes, no.
Speaker 2:You just said yes or no. You looked at me and you said yes or no, so you said I couldn't do the middle.
Speaker 1:Okay, fine.
Speaker 2:So I'm'm gonna say hobbies should stay hobbies okay, why do you think they should stay hobbies? Because of the enjoyment right?
Speaker 1:yes okay, let's, let's just have some things that are just purely for enjoyment. Going back to your point Sorry. No, but going back to your point about how your brain works and how okay you're doing these Dragon Ball Z cards and how you can't help but think about all of these things, right that in and of itself, there's nothing wrong with that. Have you done it? You're not going to act on every single thing. A thought is a thought, right? You're not going to act on every single hobby and make it a job.
Speaker 1:You might think about it, but that doesn't mean you're going to do it.
Speaker 2:I typically do.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're killing me. I'm trying to make a point here.
Speaker 2:My point is is that like? So you see my brain just automatically goes there automatically goes there.
Speaker 2:And so now it's like okay, I got, I bought one fricking pack of of Dragon Ball cards and I got one pack of my son's one piece cards that he wanted. And already I'm thinking like I wonder how much of these tournaments make. I don't even know how to play the fucking game yet, but I'm like I wonder if, like, they make a lot of money. You know, like, so you know, and I'm I'm like I wonder if they make a lot of money. You know, so you know, and I'm there asking chat, gpt, like what's the most expensive Dragon Ball card? You know what packs can I buy? But but, but, but you know, I'm so.
Speaker 1:My gosh.
Speaker 2:It's my brain.
Speaker 1:That's your brain, that's how it? Works, collecting, harmless fun, or just organized hoarding.
Speaker 2:I don't know how to describe that. I'm not good at organizing anything, so you're going to say harmless fun. Harmless fun.
Speaker 1:Okay, you.
Speaker 2:Are you a hoarder?
Speaker 1:No, I'm not a hoarder, but I look at that kind of a thing like collecting. Oh you know what? I can't do that Like teacups or something. I cannot do that because I collect some things. It's just coming to me now.
Speaker 2:What do you collect?
Speaker 1:Okay, you're going to laugh at me, but you see those little Spider-Man cases over there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I used to collect the little beanies.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, and they're up there now collecting dust. Grayson I live vicariously through Grayson and we collect little mini squishmallow or like the little durables.
Speaker 2:Fallon man with the squishables, right Squishmallows, can we collect those? Oh my God.
Speaker 1:So I guess, because I would listen, my adult brain that was going to say it's organized hoarding. But I can't do that now, because now I'm calling myself a hoarder.
Speaker 2:You are.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to say harmless fun, okay, skill-based hobbies versus relaxing hobbies, which are better for mental health. I don't think there's a difference. I think it depends on the person.
Speaker 2:It 100% depends on the person, Because I know that I can play a game like Call of Duty and that relaxes me and I know and that Duty and that relaxes me.
Speaker 1:And I know, and that would do the opposite for me.
Speaker 2:Exactly the person next to me is like oh my God, that's so stressful. I just want to play my jewel game or whatever.
Speaker 1:Tetris or something yeah you know.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, it's definitely different, for sure, per person.
Speaker 1:Ooh, okay, this one Expensive hobbies worth the money or unnecessary?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, the card thing that I'm just getting into right now is a lot of fucking money. I mean, those cards are not cheap. So you know, I guess it all depends.
Speaker 1:Yep, it depends on your means. I don't think it's necessary to have a hobby that is expensive, but if you do have one, then all the more power to you, good for you. And if you can afford it and you enjoy it, then who am I?
Speaker 2:And you know, I guess it's about perspective too. You know, because I just thought of it. It's like, okay, you know I'm complaining that the packs of cards are too expensive, but a video game is $90. Right, so I mean $90 can get you quite a bit of cards. So I guess it's about perspective.
Speaker 1:Yeah, at the end of the day and if you enjoy it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because like how many games do I buy? I don't buy many. But then you know, now it's not even about buying the game. You games do I buy? I don't buy many. But then you know, now it's not even about buying the game. You buy the game, then it's the battle pass, it's the skins, it's all that other shit, you know that you want.
Speaker 1:That's so annoying.
Speaker 2:Well, it's annoying, but also it's something that, like, gamers, just thrive off of. You know they love it. They love it, Including me. So I guess, yeah, I guess, when you look at it like that card, you know I get a perspective, Perspective.
Speaker 1:See, okay, it's a little side note, brawl.
Speaker 2:Stars.
Speaker 1:Riley loves it, yeah, and actually they're always trying to get me. My kids are always trying to get me to play these games and I'm just like I don't't. But this one I actually find quite interesting. It's fun. So I play with him sometimes, but I'm clearly like level two. He's like level 400, you know, like whatever. They're always, uh, selling these like a brawl star passes and like exclusive skins and I'm just like who gives a shit what t-shirt you're wearing in your character on the iPad? You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't get it, but for him it's, it's a big deal, yeah, okay, is there a hobby trends that you just don't get?
Speaker 2:You know, I think if you asked me this 20 years ago, I would probably say yeah, a lot of stuff, um, but nowadays, like no, I I actually love finding out what people are into I do too you know like your husband is into colognes right yes, he collects colognes and see if, if you would have asked me about that when I was like 20, yeah, I'd be like like what, like why? Why would I collect colognes?
Speaker 1:but now I think it's so cool, you know like, well, when I, when I met him yeah, I didn't, I didn't understand it. I was just like wow, that's, that's interesting. But but now I actually appreciate it with him like, and he has such a there's something, this, this has a scent of cigars and oak wood and you're like okay, you know, like, wow, interesting. Like he just he has such a knowledge and appreciation for it that you can't help but appreciate it as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that I'm into now way more as I got older. Remember Blockbuster? Yeah, you know, like movie buffs, we were all like pretty much movie buffs, yes, but I never had a collection like like you guys had, you know, of movies and stuff, and so that's another thing where, back in the day, I would be like, well, I work at Blockbuster Like why, why am I gonna buy the movies and like have like 5 000 movies? Like I'm just gonna like get the movie, play it and then like bring it back yeah you know versus now.
Speaker 2:You know it's kind of cool, you know seeing like all the movies and it's like, oh shit. You know like it brings back memories and this and that you know what I mean so this is like a fraction of the stuff that we have like this doesn't even count, you know, but to that question, I think it's also about age and I think there's a lot of factors that go into that.
Speaker 1:I agree, and I think too that as I've gotten older, I've gotten less judgmental about other people's like things that I wouldn't have thought about, and I'm like oh my gosh. And I'll say like, wow, I never would have thought that that's a hobby, but not as a judgment, more of a. That's really cool and I want to see like what that's about. Kind of.
Speaker 2:Thing.
Speaker 1:Like does that work for me? Does that, would I like something like that yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I'd become way less judgmental in those scenarios as well. Yeah, well, like.
Speaker 1:I mean, just even what. Was it the last episode or whatever, when we were like talking about our perception of older people, like getting older and stuff. Or like gardening.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know like gardening was such a like oh, but like what a delightful hobby gardening is. So, to wrap things up a little bit, Josh, is there perhaps a hobby that you would like to try next?
Speaker 2:Something that you haven't tried before that's of interest to you. I actually think I would like to get into some colognes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Okay, cool Well you'll have to talk to James.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Get some insight there. I'd like to do something more of a physical activity as a hobby, okay, like maybe yoga.
Speaker 2:It's so crazy. You say that because I have been looking into doing yoga.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Because apparently for the stretching and which I'm in so much pain in general just from trying to do this bodybuilding thing, I've been actually really considering yoga. I guess I didn't look at it like a hobby.
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