Signal & Stakes

Wrestling With Profits: Why Marketing Isn't Just a Profit Center

Call It RevOps Season 1 Episode 6

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In this episode of Call It RevOps, we dive into a provocative idea: What if marketing isn’t a profit center at all but a vital cost center instead? Join us as we challenge conventional thinking and explore why this perspective might just be the key to better business strategies.

Special guest Devin Leshin, a marketing expert and former professional wrestler, brings a unique lens to the discussion. Drawing from his wrestling days, Devin shares insights on balancing audience engagement with business objectives and reveals why performance-driven industries offer valuable lessons for marketers.

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Signal & Stakes is a podcast for people who sit inside the decisions that shape how companies grow, compete, and survive. Each episode surfaces a real decision, the signal that was there, what was at stake, and what happened next. Not advice. Consequence.

Signal & Stakes is hosted by Raja Walia, CEO of GNW Consulting, and Akande Davis, VP of Operations at GNW Consulting.

Signal & Stakes is produced by GNW Consulting, a strategic marketing technology and revenue operations agency helping enterprise organizations make sense of their existing MarTech investments. Through the GNW Orchestration Framework, GNW Consulting helps companies connect board-level priorities to day-to-day execution, identify where AI creates leverage across go-to-market operations, and determine where human judgment should lead. Learn more.

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