The Epstein Files: Grooming, Power, and the Truth Behind the Investigation

In this highly sensitive episode of Inside the Polygraph, David Goldberg examines the long-running Jeffrey Epstein case and the disturbing realities surrounding the trafficking and abuse of minors.

Drawing from his experience in criminal justice and child exploitation investigations, David explains how grooming works, how predators manipulate vulnerable victims, and how recruitment networks operate behind the scenes. He discusses the role of power, wealth, and influence in shielding misconduct, and why accountability in cases involving minors must remain a priority.

This episode also explores why victims’ voices are central to uncovering the truth, why trauma often silences survivors for years, and why real justice requires more than speculation or media headlines.

Listener discretion is strongly advised due to the subject matter involving sexual abuse and exploitation.

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Welcome to Inside the Polygraph. I'm your host, David Goldberg. On today's episode, we're gonna be talking about something that's been in the news for almost over 20 years now, and that is the Jeffrey Epstein case and files. 

I'm gonna be talking about this in things that you may have heard and maybe some things that you haven't heard in reference to the files, and some are disturbing.

I'm gonna do a little disclosure right now before we even begin, and some of the things that I'm gonna be talking about are [00:01:00] upsetting to a lot of people and should be, and that is the sexual abuse of minors. And if that troubles you, you have every right to walk away, and that's fine. If you want to continue, you're continuing to listen on your own free will.

I'm gonna be talking about some prevalent individuals that are on the list and in the files, and I'm not gonna be talking about any political party one way or the other. These are just individuals and maybe they are affiliated with a political party, but I'm not specifically targeting them myself, I'm just going to be mentioning their names.

Let's begin on some of the things that you may or may not be aware of in reference to the Jeffrey Epstein case. One, like I said, this has [00:02:00] been in the news for almost 20 years now. The investigation began in 2005, and we are now in 2026, and it all began in reference to. The sex trafficking of minors for sexual purposes.

The ages of these victims range from as young as 11 and up to minors now up to the age of 14, and some of 'em were over the age of 18. But the eight young ages were from 11 to 14. The sexual acts began under the Rus false pretense of massages, massages, [00:03:00] and in the files only two of the young victims had experience in giving massages.

All the others were groomed and taught in reference to them. The other that were trafficked to Jeffrey Epstein were found through high schools. Found through being promised financial aid for artistic purposes, and were recruited because they either came from foster homes, they had bad family upbringings, homes, criminal past drug abuse issues, and.

Were abused either physically or sexually themselves and promised a better life As an [00:04:00] experienced investigator in sexual abuse to minors. Working on the FBI task force for child exploitation, I can tell you a lot of what these molesters, child sexual offenders, and pedophiles do, Jeffrey Epstein did not personally go running out to these high schools, to these places.

Talk to these victims himself because he didn't wanna be caught. So he had a partner, and we know who that partner was. GLA Maxwell, who is currently serving 20 years in a federal penitentiary right now. And as you may have seen on the news, she took the fifth in reference to being questioned [00:05:00] by. Senators and representatives, which means she did not want to admit to anything that she has personal knowledge of.

However, what she said was she's willing to tell if she gets something that she wants, which a pardon and freedom, then she would say what she has knowledge of. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm gonna tell you she's a piece of shit. And she should stay in prison because if she has knowledge and she wants to do right, she should tell what she knows to help the victims.

And it doesn't matter whether she gets out, doesn't get out, she has knowledge and she should do right. However, she's just as much guilty and that's why she was convicted because she's a pedophile herself. Not only did [00:06:00] she recruit all these victims, or a majority of the victims for Jeffrey Epstein's abuse and a lot of these other high profile individuals, she participated in some of the abuse herself.

And how did she do it? It's in the files. How did she do it in order for a sex offender? To begin to abuse their victims, you must groom them to make them feel comfortable in the setting that they're at. Because if you don't, then that means that you're actually forcing yourself onto them, which means that you're then raping them.

And that's not what this was all about. However, I would say that some of these victims were probably most likely raped at the age because these [00:07:00] victims did not have the age of consent. However, when I'm talking about rape, we're talking about serious force. And even though, and I say this not to justify anything, so please understand that.

In reference to what occurred to these victims, and I say victims because they are, they were groomed in order to make them feel what they would do was the right thing. And that's grooming, and that's what these predators, sex offenders, and sexual molesters do to their victims. You wanna know how they did it?

Well, we all know that they recruited these young girls from bad things that are going on in their homes [00:08:00] or in their lives, such as drug use, being abused, maybe not doing well in school, maybe being homeless, being in foster care. Being sexually abused themselves, you know, out in the streets, whatever, with promises of, well, if you come with us or if you come stay with us at Jeffrey Epstein's house, he's a multi-billionaire.

He has a room for you. He'll feed you, he'll do X, y, and Z for you. You will be off the street. You won't be in foster care anymore, and you'll, you'll have a better life. Well, when girls that have a real shitty life and they see the promise of a better life for them, what do you think they're going to do?

They're going to take the road to a better opportunity. So this [00:09:00] is where Ghislaine Maxwell comes in. She tells him, Jeffrey Epstein's the nicest guy. He's going to give you this. He is gonna shower you with money. He's going to give you all the food, you're gonna have your own bed, whatever. So let's say these victims, which we know they did, so they say yes, they go there.

They don't automatically get abused. 'cause what would you do? You'd wanna run if you're a victim. So it doesn't start out that way. It's called grooming, meaning you build up. The trust, you build up what's going to happen. So it starts out and you've seen pictures of them doing his nails, doing his, his feet massaging his feet, rubbing his back.

That's all grooming, and it's grooming in a physical way in reference to touching, okay, physical contact. Then what happens is. It's been in the files where Ghislaine [00:10:00] would walk around the home and at the pool topless to make the girls feel like, well, if she's doing it. And it's okay, well then maybe we can do it also, because Ghislaine would say, look, I'm doing it.

You can walk around here. It's not a big deal, so why don't you do it? So I'm sure that's what happens. So some of these girls would walk around either topless, naked, however Ghislaine would be and say it's okay. Then what would happen is, is the physical contact would go from. Massaging the feet, doing the nails to rubbing whatever on Jeffrey Epstein's body to maybe it then be switched where Jeffrey would then massage the girls and it would be, like I said, grooming.

So it would be just the massage part, just the, let's say, rubbing the back or rubbing the legs or rubbing the [00:11:00] feet. But then, as I said, grooming then gets. Escalate and elevate it. So from doing your toenails, doing your hands, do, rubbing your arms, rubbing your your back, or whatever, it then gets to the private areas and then from there gets into the more egregious sexual parts.

Then what happens is once that happens to these young girls. It has never happened to them before or they have been abused in before. They feel ashamed, they feel scared, and now they feel like there's no one they can talk to and there's no escape for them, and that's where. Like in fishing, once you hook the fish, you reel in, you've got them.

That's exactly what Jeffrey did and Ghislaine Maxwell did to these victims. Once they [00:12:00] had them hooked, they had them and they had them where they wanted and they either paid them, they bought them clothes, and so they have 'em where they want 'em. They're now fearful. Of telling anyone because of being ashamed.

They know they've done something that they probably shouldn't have, or someone's not gonna believe 'em. And after they do this, maybe some of the threats have come out. Now, if you ever say anything, if you're gonna get in trouble or if you say anything, we're gonna harm your family. If you say anything.

We're gonna go and get your sister, we're gonna go get your brother. We're gonna go and harm your mom and dad, or we're gonna, you know, whatever. So they don't say anything out of fear. And what's more important to them is the protection of who they love, whether it's their mom and dad, whether it's their brother, their sister.

'cause [00:13:00] they don't want them to be in the same predicament that they are in, so they keep quiet for as long as they can. What do sex offenders and sex molesters do? They use these victims until they can no longer be used anymore. Meaning when the new recruits come in and they can be groomed, the new ones, the old ones that they've already used and abused, they're not worth them anymore.

They just. Put 'em to the side or they get rid of 'em and now they got a new batch. And that's what this has been going on and had been going on for years with Ghislaine and Jeffrey Epstein. Let's talk about the high powered influential individuals. Associated it with [00:14:00] Jeffrey Epstein. There's a plethora of individuals, but there's also so many conspiracy theories that because these individuals hung around Jeffrey Epstein, they must have all engaged in some kind of sexual acts with these young victims.

I'm not here to tell you whether they did or did not. However, what I'm going to tell you is the victims that were there, the victims that had to, and I'll say this again, the word had to engage in sexual acts with others that were at these events, these social events, or these houses that Epstein owned.

Or the island that Epstein had, they are the key to [00:15:00] this entire fiasco in reference to who they can identify, who they engaged in sexual acts with the files that were redacted and blacked out and hidden. Some names and and things that are said. Then unredacted, I'm gonna tell you that it's not gonna say who X had sex with because the victims are being shielded for their protection like they should be.

And there are other victims that just don't want to be identified because of trauma. Because of they're still ashamed, they're still hurt. They don't want their new families, their children that they have, or their husbands or their moms and dads to be aware of. That's why [00:16:00] the law says victims are unidentifiable when it comes to sexual abuse to them.

If a victim wants to step forward. It is on their own accord because the victims are strong-willed and they're ready to fight and they're ready to face their accusers. And as a experienced investigator and a polygraph examiner who has tested multiple strong-willed women. Who were victims of sexual abuse as minors.

When they come to me, they are now ready, ready, and they are in a fight syndrome. Not a flight, but a fight [00:17:00] ready position to face the accuser or face those that have never believed in them. So in reference to this matter and all the names, and let me read a few of them for you if you don't mind. And again, I'm not saying, and I will repeat this, I'm not saying that the names I'm going to read out loud have engaged in any physical sexual acts with any minors at Jeffrey Epstein's social events.

I'm not saying that the names I read are one political party and another, and that they should go after this person because he's on this political party or this one because he's affiliated with this other political party. What I'm saying is if he associated with Jeffrey Epstein, [00:18:00] there is a reason for his association.

The only only person that would know if this person engaged in physical sexual acts with a minor are three people. Three people, actually four. Jeffrey Epstein, who's dead and dead. People can't talk. Ghislaine Maxwell, who's locked up and took the. Has all the knowledge because she was there and recruited the victims and directed those victims to have sex with whomever was at that party.

The victim themselves who engaged in sex acts with the high profile individuals and the high profile individual or high profile John, as we would call them until they're identified. Would know who they had sex with in reference to the minor. So I'm gonna read a few names. And again, whether they [00:19:00] had sex with a minor or not, whether they wanted to, whether they thought about it, whether they were recruited or asked if they wanted to have sex with a minor and turned it down.

Those are the people that should be questioned. They're not gonna tell you. Yeah, sure, I wanted to have sex with a minor, but I didn't wanna do it that day. They're not gonna tell you. They're just not. But the victims, if they want to come forward, I'll tell you how you, you'll be able to identify 'em. Here's some of the names, ladies and gentlemen.

Let's go through a few of them. Alan Dershowitz, Alec Baldwin, Anderson Cooper, Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders, Beyonce, bill Gates, Bruce Willis, Chris Tucker, Ellen Spencer. Don't even know who that is. Gwen Stefani, Hillary Quint Clinton, James Franco, Jimmy Kimmel, Joe Biden, John Cusack, John Travolta, Justin [00:20:00] Trudeau, Katie Perry, Kristen Gillibrand.

Madonna, mark Epstein, Meryl Streep, and so on and so on, and I could lead, read the list over and over and over again. Charlie Sheen. Chris Tucker, ladies and gentlemen, there are a lot of names, men and women. That doesn't mean, and I'll repeat that, that doesn't mean that they engaged in sex with any minors.

It means that they associate it with Jeffrey Epstein because why? The powerful and the rich hang with the powerful and the rich. They hobnob with them because they have something in common. Money, power, and control. And with that comes the dirty secrets behind every person that has power and control and some of the individuals.[00:21:00] 

Maybe some of the individuals I read and some I haven't read, may have some deep, dark taboo secrets. Some of these rich and powerful individuals, whether they're celebrities or whether they're financial gurus or whatever position they have, may have some taboo secrets that they just did not want to get out.

Lo and behold, now that they're in this big major file, they're scrambling and now they're all denying I, I only met him once, or I only knew him once, or I met him one time. But the files are showing opposite of what they're saying in reference to identifying whether any of the names I read or when any of the names that are in the files that were redacted or unredacted.

Had sex with any minors, this is how you will absolutely [00:22:00] 110% identify them. We all know Ghislaine Maxwell took the fifth, so she's not gonna say anything unless she gets what she wants. And like I said, I wouldn't give her shit if I had the power to give it to her, because if she wants to do right, she'll tell, but she doesn't because she wants to get something in return.

So let her rot in jail. Number two, how you find out who had sex with a minor. And it doesn't matter because there's no statute of limitations. There shouldn't be for any engaging in sex with any minor. But what you do is you gather the photographs of every single person that has ever attended a social event that Jeffrey Epstein put on, or Ghislaine Maxwell put on.

You bring them to the victims that want to step forward and want to go after their [00:23:00] abuser and say, can you personally identify the individual that you had to perform a sex act on them or. Them performing a sex act on you? Can you personally identify them and show them a booklet with photographs so that you're not ting, oh, is it this one?

You let them pick it out and when they pick out a photograph of someone that is in a high powered position, okay. Such as the one victim that did identify her abuser, which was Virginia Giuffre, the one victim, the one strong victim who identified her abuser, Virginia Gu Giuffre, who identified [00:24:00] the then Prince Andrew, who got his title stripped from him.

Who is now in hiding and who has now been banished from the royals because of his engaging in inappropriate acts. With a minor, he had to pay 16 to $22 million in what he said was a donation, but he didn't admit any fault. But let me tell you this. Anyone who pays any amount of money and says, I'll pay as long as I don't have to admit fault.

What does that say? It says, you're just as guilty as sin, because if I'm not guilty of anything and I'm innocent, why would I pay a single dime for something I've not done? It's called [00:25:00] Shut up money. Hush money. I'll pay, but shut up and I'm not gonna admit to anything. You know how many celebrities and high powered people do this on a regular basis when they get accused of something?

If you're an innocent individual. Then take the stand and say, I face my accuser 'cause it's a false allegation and I'm gonna shove it up there. You know what? Because they're lying against me. But when you have to say, you know what? I'm gonna pay 'em $10 million, I'm gonna pay 'em X amount of dollars to shut up and go away, that just means that you know they have enough on you and you're as guilty as anything.

So again, you want the real answers. The real answers come from those strong women who were once minors who were recruited and groomed to do inappropriate [00:26:00] sexual acts to these high powered men who attended these social events at Jeffrey Epstein's residence through. The recruitment of Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein.

That's how you find out the information. All these files that are released, all of them are not gonna tell you anything and actually are gonna send you on a wild goose chase, and you're gonna say, well, maybe that's what this means, or maybe that's what this means. No, that's not what it means. It's just sending you in different directions in hopes you're going to get your answers.

But it's not. Talk to the real source, and that's the victims that wanna come forward and leave the victims that don't wanna come forward alone and let them live their lives. And when they're ready, they will come to the forefront. I will also let you know something in reference to [00:27:00] victimization. And these pedophiles.

And what they often do is after they abuse these people and these victims, they wanna go silent and quiet in hopes that they never get caught. Okay? And so that's what Jeffrey Epstein did, and that's why he, that's why, and I'll tell you why. He surrounded himself with all these powerful men. And why he invited them because he felt, he felt that if I did it and some of you wanted to do it, I've got just as much evidence on you.

If I get in trouble, and guess what? He's now dead. So all these other individuals that may have engaged in physical, sexual acts with, they're scared to death. They are scrambling and you're seeing that when the news media goes up to them and says, Hey, your name's in this file. Did you attend the party? I just, I can't [00:28:00] remember if I did or didn't.

You sure you're in there. You know what I might have. But it was only one time. And then the file are read even further down the line and it says, oh, attended the party. Attended the party about 12 times. Then where's your memory now? So it's all about bullshit is what they're given and. Like I said, they're just trying to avoid the inevitable and it's going to come out because lies are always revealed.

Always revealed. And liars can't keep their story straight for very long. And why do you think 'cause Ghislaine Maxwell was found guilty. She couldn't keep her lies, but now she's keeping her secrets. There's a difference. You can't keep your lies straight, but you may be able to keep your secrets for a long time until the secrets are revealed.

The investigation in this matter was done [00:29:00] okay, not perfect, and trust me, if it was done perfect, Jeffrey Epstein would've probably been arrested. Seriously arrested and charged with sex trafficking and child sexual abuse many, many years ago, and same with Ghislaine Maxwell, and that's why these victims are coming to Congress.

And they had to force the hand of the United States government to release these files when they were asking for them to be released many, many years ago because of the faulty investigation from prior administrations and prior. Administrating law enforcement agencies as well. So it was really done poorly.

And now with all the pressure, and I think pressure should still be put [00:30:00] on everyone, it should all come forward because when there's one person involved, there's multiple persons involved because as great as this. Case has been, and if you're saying you just released 3 million files, files of an individual involved in sex trafficking, do not think two people are the only ones in involved in this.

There's multiple people that should be charged with engaging in sexual acts with minors, multiple people. I don't care if you are the most amount of money in the world. If you're engaging in sex acts with a minor, you are dirty, you're guilty, and you should be charged and convicted. If you're an innocent individual, you have nothing to fear [00:31:00] and you should tell everyone.

You should testify in front of Congress. You should testify in front of anyone and you should swear. With an oath, whatever, take a polygraph, do whatever it takes to prove your innocence, that you have never had any hands-on physical, sexual contact or any contact whatsoever with a minor. Yes, you can say, I've attended the parties.

I never witnessed anything. Or you may testify and say, you know what? I was at the parties and yeah, I witnessed minors at the party and yeah, I might've seen some people go and take a minor, you know, into a room. But I was not present for any acts and I didn't see any. But some of these people I mentioned, they saw minors at that party.

You can guarantee it. They saw some of their colleagues, some of their co celebrities, their people they hobnob with and laughed with and toasted drinks with. They saw them [00:32:00] scoot off into another room or another, you know, part of the house with a young, you know. Girl, you know damn well they saw that. They may not have seen what sex act was performed, but you know, they were introduced to, hi, this is so and so.

Would you like company with so and so? No, not right now. Okay. And then Ghislaine would've taken that girl to someone else and then they looked and saw someone else. Walk off with them. They know there's a lot of information out there that they're well aware of who walked off with whom and who walked out of the room by themselves and had that young female still inside that room.

It's sick, but it happened. And I know that for a fact. In reference to how these sexual acts occur to these young, innocent minded victims that are groomed. Abused [00:33:00] by individuals such as Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell and the rich and powerful who think money can buy anything and everything. If you like what I just spoke about, please like, subscribe, and comment, and I thank you for listening to Inside The Polygraph with David Goldberg.

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