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How being a locksmith helps being a better pastor | Matt Boyd

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You don’t call a locksmith on your best day. You call when you’re late, locked out, stranded, or staring at a front door that suddenly feels like a wall. That’s why my conversation with Matt Boyd from Chuck’s Locksmith goes way beyond keys and car doors and straight into what stress reveals about people, what grace looks like in real time, and how a local Owensboro business becomes part of the community’s safety net.

Matt shares the story behind the name everyone still asks for, his grandfather Chuck, and what it was like taking over a family business while also serving in ministry and raising four kids. We talk about the hard early years of learning the trade fast, the boundaries you have to set when Google says “24 hours,” and the surprising variety of locksmith work, from rekeys and commercial doors to automotive issues. If you care about small business in Kentucky, customer service under pressure, and the strength of local loyalty in Daviess County, you’ll feel right at home.

We also go deeper into the personal stuff that shapes a leader: Matt’s journey of forgiving his dad, rebuilding a relationship after years of silence, and deciding what legacy actually matters when the work is done. Plus, we get into why Connect Camp has become such a powerful, gospel-centered outreach for Owensboro families and why it sticks with kids long after the chants fade.

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One Year In Owensboro

SPEAKER_01

One year ago, we started something simple, just conversations right here in Owensboro. And along the way, we've heard stories that make you laugh, stories that make you think, and sometimes stories that hit a little closer to home. Today is one of those because I'm sitting down with one of my best friends here in Owensboro, Matt Boyd, a Chuck's locksmith. A guy who spent years showing up for people on some of their worst days, and has learned a lot about life, family, and faith along the way. This is a story about legacy and growth and about what really matters in the end. Year one. And we're just getting started. I guess to myself and our and our guests, but also congratulations to you. You've you've supported us since day one, and you know, there's a lot of things going on. Um, and we'll get to that later this month. But but for sure, thank you so much for allowing us to go to one year. Thanks to the continuing listening to us, and thank you if you're a new listener. So if you jumped on with the Cody Rustberg episode or or Ray Crowley or or even Judy Judy's podcast or Adam Overalls, thank you. Thank you for joining us, and we hope you stick stick along and uh have some fun. But today is is not, yes, it's great that it's our one-year anniversary, but I have a special guest with me, one of my best friends here in Owensboro, Matt Boyd of Trucks Locksmith. Matt, thanks for joining us today.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm glad to be here. I am looking forward to it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so you know, you're the guy who gets the call in the middle of the night uh because somebody left their keys in the house and locked the door, and then also don't have keys to get into her car. It's a lot of fun stories, and we'll get to those. But Matt, tell us a little bit more about yourself before we get into the into the episode.

Meet Matt Boyd Beyond Work

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Yeah, so my uh my wife and I, Emily, have been married for uh 14, almost 14 years, and we have four kids ranging from a teenager down to five. And uh so it's a it's a lot of it's a lot of fun business, just a lot of uh lot of things going on with uh kids. All of them are playing some type of softball or baseball this this spring. So it's a a lot of a lot of busyness. But uh but uh also kind of a different interesting thing with me is that not only do I do the locksmith stuff, but also have have worked in churches as pastors, as a pastor and on staff at churches. And I'm currently uh about a year away from finishing my master divinity program at uh Southern Seminary. And uh so that's just kind of a little fun fact about me.

Inheriting Chuck’s Business Legacy

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yes. You're pretty busy. I mean, let's just put it in the fact that you have four kiddos that are highly involved in sports, which is great. And then on top of that, you run a full-time business due to locksmith, and then you're like, oh, hey, by the way, I fill in whatever whenever a church needs preaching, or I'm going to Louisville twice this week because I have classes. So I have a lot of respect for that because people say I do a lot, and I do, but but you do a ton of stuff too, and then be able to balance all that stuff and do it well is pretty awesome. And so, well, Matt, you know, we talk about your locksmith business. And my one of my favorite things is people call for Chuck. Um, Chuck's your grandfather, he's no longer around, but but people always will ask for Chuck, but but you'll say he's not there. But you know, we talked about already who you are beyond just the locksmith business. But what is what was it like stepping into the business? Now at this point, you were a pastor, yeah. And so what was it, what was it like stepping into the locksmith service industry?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so just real quick, my grandfather was Chuck, he started the business back in '95. And 2012 or so, uh, we moved back. My wife and I moved back here, not for a pastoral position, but within about a year, I was pastoring another church, just kind of helping him, odds and ends stuff. And then about a year and a half later, I really started helping him kind of full time and was looking forward to. We kind of worked out an agreement, and I took over the business officially when he passed in October of 2015. And so he had ran the business for 20 years. So there was this, you know, a lot of people knew Chuck. You know, they they knew him, they knew his character, they knew who he was. You know, he was the guy that would have these multicolored pens that would bring and and drop them in doctors' offices and things like this. And and you know, so for for the first five years probably, I heard stories of of Chuck and be like, man, we usually we used to live, we used to deal with Chuck all the time. He was this little bitty guy, and because he was maybe 5'4, a little bitty short guy, and uh just just a character, really. And uh so for the first few years of really running the business on my own, really, really got a lot of uh stories of who he was and and experiences. And sometimes it was good, sometimes that was bad. Yeah, just because uh, you know, he was he was almost 80, and so he just didn't put up with a lot of stuff. But but uh, you know, and and coming into the legacy of that is you know, that was I never dreamed of being a locksmith. You know, I had gone to school uh to be a pastor, that's what I wanted to do. And just just through some different circumstances, just kind of ended up falling in my lap, and so kind of took off with it. And you know, here we are 10 plus years later, and and we just last year we celebrated our 30th year in business, carrying on the legacy of the family name. And so I get I get called Chuck a lot. People call and and uh they ask for Chuck, and sometimes I go into it, sometimes I just kind of answer and just like, yeah, that's me. And but it but it's I I I enjoy being able to carry on what he started and and just being able to kind of kind of carry on the family tradition and the family business.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's really cool. I don't think I've ever heard that story of like you diving in the first five years, like hearing stories. So that's kind of cool because like you're coming alongside, of course you know who your grandfather is, but to hear that other side of him is pretty neat. Yeah, I mean, so that that's pretty cool. You got to deal with that the first five years. And I know you guys, like you said, just celebrated 30th, 30 years last year. Yeah. Um, so that's exciting. You go just about everywhere, from what I understand, right? Like at least in the tri-state area.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we so we uh we try to we say we try to stay within about 50 driving miles. So that puts us in Evansville uh for the most part. We go all the way up to like Jasper, Indiana. We have been a little farther than that, but that you know, then south that puts us about halfway to Bowling Green. Okay, uh so Beaverdam, uh Madisonville, Central City, kind of uh all that area. Well, I say, yeah, you say the tri-state, but I so it's we do cover a lot of ground. Uh we drive a lot of miles and and do a lot of different work in in different areas. So we're not just Wollen's borough, uh, we are kind of a regionally local area.

What Lockouts Reveal About People

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And I think it's cool because like, well, I say not it'd probably not cool for you, but like you'll be like at Holiday World and someone's like, hey, I'm in the Holiday World parking lot. I'll I you know, I need and you're like, oh well, I gotta go back to get my van. But yeah, anyway, there's fun stuff like that. But then there's also really cool like businesses that you've been able to have great relationships with. So I think like Chick-fil-A, where like you know, they can call five other places, but they have a good relationship with you. They're like, hey Matt, yeah, like come help us with our with resend our locks or whatever the case may be. And then I know you do stuff like building ignitions, which is something that I never even thought was part of a locksmith deal. Like I would have never thought, hey, you have to build rebuild car ignitions, you know. And so there's some really cool stuff I think behind the scenes that people don't know about that I've learned over the last couple of years. I'm like, oh that's cool. Like I have I would have known idea, I would have had no idea that that's something you would do as a locksmith. And so there's some really cool stories with that. And I'll and I'll hit up later just with some some interesting stories. We'll we'll get to that in a rapid fire. But you know, what what is something you've learned about people from meeting them in stressful moments? Like you're you're meeting them and they're they're they're running late, they're they're freaking out. Like, like what have you learned through those situations?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean, like you say, there's a there's a lot of different things that we deal with. And you know, sometimes people are really, really stressed. They're they're locked out of their car, they gotta get to work, they're locked out of their house, they're they're at holiday world, three hours, four hours from home, and they lost their keys. You know, it it it creates stress. And you know, but I but I think that you know what I what I've learned, I guess maybe from people is that you just never know what's going on in their life at any given point. So some people they they just deal with stress differently. And and some people like you you can put two different situations in the same situation and put two different people in them. And some of some of them are just gonna be like stressed to the max, like wanting to pull their hair out. And some people are are just gonna be pretty chill. And and like we're stressed, like things aren't going our way. Yeah. Like we're working on something, and we're like, oh man, this customer is gonna be like super upset because like we told them it's gonna be an hour, and here we are four hours into this job that wasn't expect, you know, we didn't expect to take it this long. And it's just and sometimes people are super chill, and then you have uh other people that like we're there for five minutes and you know, trying to unlock their house or something, and they're like, hey, are you gonna be able to get it? Like they're just super stressed. Like, and so you know, and I know that a lot of that is just just a different character of people. Sometimes that you know, people are different, you know, we we can't just different people, everybody reacts a different way, I guess is the way to say that. So, you know, I I guess kind of where what do you learn from that? Well, I mean, I I think about like because people are different and that God has created everybody different, and and we we we have to approach every situation a little bit differently in the way that we relate to people and and sometimes we have to you know show grace. You know, we we have a uh just kind of one example is we have a pretty hard fast rule that like you know, if if you're not a commercial customer, you're not a business, you pay at the time that do we do service? Like, because I just don't have time to, you know, go chase every every job that we do, every job. House unlock or car unlock. I don't have time to build out and wait for money to come in. But but then there was a situation recently where you know this guy was he was an older guy and he was super stressed, and he he was he was over in Grandview, was locked out of his house, and kind of our policy is hey, you've got to pay. And so just in a conversation with him, I I took a chance and said, Hey, if you'll call me tomorrow and bring me the money, I we'll we'll do that. And and it's not something I do typically because honestly, 90% of the time, I'll never see that guy again. He'll never call me. If I called him, he just wouldn't answer the phone. But but it worked out, and so you know it's just kind of different. We can set standards, but sometimes you you just kind of have to have a conversation with people and and realize that not every situation is the same. And I think maybe that's kind of the biggest thing that I've learned. Well, one of the biggest things I guess I've learned dealing with people is that oftentimes they're just in different situations and you kind of have to read, read the situation to be able to know how to deal with it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and it sounds cool because it sounds like it's something that you could definitely apply to ministry as well. Um you're constantly dealing with people. Yeah, people are gonna be upset over the worship style, or maybe you didn't use their favorite Bible translation in the sermon. And that sounds trivial, and there that is, there's some more serious things, but I think it's cool because I feel like it helps down the road in ministry of like, okay, like just like locksmith, I'm not I'm not dealing with their locks, but I'm dealing with an angry of someone who's getting upset. And so it's kind of like conflict resolution, uh, I feel like, or de-escalation. So that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think I think there's a lot of ties to that too, ministry. Yeah. Just with dealing with people in general. It's not you know running a business and and having to make those decisions with people, like I think you know, people inside of the church in ministry context, like there's always gonna be that like, hey, this is our hard, fast rule, but there's opportunities there to show grace or may maybe bending the rules is the kind of the best way that we might understand it, but like not scenario to say like we're gonna bend the rules just for this person, but like in this situation, for this person, specifically in this situation, we're gonna do something a little different. Um I think there, I think there's a correlation there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, and talking about just I mean, it's easy for you to recall certain situations. A lot of times, you know, especially when we're dealing with people, there are things that pop up. And so what is one call or moment that just you'll never forget?

SPEAKER_00

Man, I I probably the there's a lot of things, but probably the one the one call that I'll never forget is is opening a house for for a house for a guy for a family where somebody had died in the house. Oh wow. And so they it it was just a sad situation. Uh the the he wasn't there anymore, but like they had to go in and and and and clean and things, and and so it was just it was a sad situation without going into any details. Yeah, but it but you're like you're still. But like that that that memory sticks with me, and and and you know, and there there's other things that stick with me, you know, but but I think maybe that that is like that I still think about that. Like I still drive by that house, hey, this is what happened at that house. Like yeah, it's just that that memory that's there, yeah.

Why Owensboro Backs Local Businesses

SPEAKER_01

Um yeah, yeah. So I mean talking about being in situations where it's high stress, but even being on the flip side of like they're very sensitive, emotional as well. And so, because again, they're they're still grieving. Yeah, you know, it's it's hard going into a home where someone you love lived and they passed away. So that makes sense. How has being out in the community, and I would say like let's focus a little bit more on on Davis County, Owensboro instead of like Evansville and stuff, but but how has being out in the community shaped your view of Owensboro?

SPEAKER_00

I I think for the most part, you know, people are they they want the local businesses. And so I think that that that is what's helped us thrive in Owensboro for 30 years, is because of the people of Owensboro and Davis County. Like we're based here. We haven't moved to Evansville, we haven't moved to somewhere else, like we haven't started another division in in one of those areas or anything. Like we're we're in Owensboro. We've been in Owensborough for 30 years. Like we are we are a hometown company, a family business. Like, but but what what's helped us thrive? What's helped us grow from a single person, my grandfather working by himself for 20 years, to now we have two full-time employees and a part-time employee, including me. Like, I think it's because of Warnsboro. Yeah. And and you know, so so looking at that, like all the negative things that we want to talk about Owensboro, like that other people talk about Owensboro, like I'm thankful. Uh, and so it's shaped my view because I think, hey, these guys, like Wandsboro really does love local businesses. Yeah, I would agree. Um, and and they don't they don't want they don't want the big corporation, you know, if there was a big corporation locksmith, that's not what they want. They want the local guy because they know that that local guy that's been here for 30 years is gonna be here the next time he calls. And I and I think for the generally, I'm not saying everybody, but generally I think that that's the truth. And that's who they that's who Wallsboro wants. Yeah, and and just being out in the community, dealing with people, like I think that that's that's where I see that just kind of the heart of Windsboro is.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I would totally agree with that. I mean, I think I've been here five and a half years, and it seems to me like there's a very healthy support of local businesses, like homegrown businesses. Like, hey, let's support our own. Um, just cool because you especially in a city this size, not that Owensboro is huge, but it's not small either. And so even for a town of 60,000 people, like I think that's impressive that they're not like, hey, we're just calling you know cookie cutter, big, big, big brother or big collar business, whatever you want to call it, uh big box business, but whatever and call it the local guy. And so you know, you talked about Owensboro, you talked about how running this business for the last 11 years has really shown you how Owensboro supports local businesses, but for you and your family, like for you guys, what makes Owensboro Owensboro? What makes Owensboro Owensboro?

SPEAKER_00

I I think just the uniqueness of Owensboro. Okay. And I mean that's that's where I grew up. My wife is not from Owensboro, but like so we have family here, so like this is this is home in a way, but but I think that what you know Owensboro is is it's unique. You know, it it is not a huge town, uh not a huge city, but it is growing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And and I mean you see that. I mean, we're getting we're getting two publics. I mean, what's going on with that? And a brand new Kroger. And it's just it's kind of crazy like to think that the county has a hundred thousand people, and we but but we're seeing growth. I mean, it's it's not the largest city in all in in Kentucky, obviously, but but I think what what makes it unique is it's just kind of a a good mid-size. And maybe it doesn't make it super unique, but but it's not Evansville. Yeah, yeah. It's huge, but it's not, you know, it's not Whitesville either. That's just really, really small and rural. So there's things to do here. There, there's just good community, you know, good, good things. And I think what what you know yeah, I I think it's just a a mix of kind of just almost like that that Goldilocks size, like it's just kind of a good size in a once for all. And I think maybe that's kind of what makes it a once for all.

Building A Business With Emily

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's cool. I've never heard it taught like used as like an illustration of like the Goldilocks size, but I but I but I would agree, like I think you know, I've shared this a lot, even other guests have shared it a lot. Like, it's big enough where it has everything, but it's small enough to still feel like you know everybody in the community, which is really cool because that's that's unique. You don't you don't get that at other places, you know. So, you know, you said you came back in 2012 with with Emily, your wife, and in 2015 you wound up taking over your grandfather's business. And so, you know, obviously she's been an integral part in helping you build that because I know you do the you do the going out and doing the visits, you're unlocking people, you're getting people in, whatever. Uh, she's probably doing more like the administrative side of things. And so what is it what has been like uh building that business with Emily?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so it's uh she does some of the yeah, she does some of that and kind of helps me with that office side of it. It's been a it's been a big learn learning curve from her, but that's kind of been a recent thing, like the first few years, especially before I I hired anybody, like it was for her, it was a lot of sacrifice. Okay. Like, I mean, I I was working a lot of hours with that, between especially between that and the church, yeah. At the time because I was pastoring, I mean, I was gone sun up to sun down, a lot of times after that, and you know, six, seven days a week. And so there was a lot of sacrifice just trying to just trying to build the business to try to maintain what was there. Got up a lot in the middle of the night, just because that's that's just what it was. And so, so I think, you know, maybe early with her, like it was it was probably a lot of sacrifice, a lot of, hey, dad's not gonna be home for supper, dad's not gonna be home for bedtime, he'll be, you know, he'll be here when he's here. But now I I think you know, now it's a lot of her, is is just she does a lot of that behind the scenes things of helping trying to keep track of the paperwork of sending out bills and making sure you know customers are caught up, making sure we are we are paying our bills as a business and things like that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, that's great. And I know you know seasons change and all that stuff, so so that's really cool to hear that it's really changed over time. Um I know she's now working at Karenet as a ultrasound tech. Is that right?

SPEAKER_00

Well, she's a nurse, she's a nurse that does some ultrasounds, yeah, limited ultrasounds at Kernet, yeah.

Sponsor Break

SPEAKER_01

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SPEAKER_00

Um, it's tough because we we kind of publicize our business as being 24 hour. Yeah, emergency is kind of the way. And but but people not everybody sees that because you go to you go to Google and it just shows 24 hour. And so we get a lot of calls on the weekends. Uh we get a lot of calls at seven, eight, nine o'clock that people just want something done. And uh because they go to Google and we're 24 hours. We go to Facebook, they're 24, you know, it shows 24 hours, whatever. And uh, but so we we have to explain that to a lot of people that like it's 24 hour emergency work. So like something's broken, something like you're stuck somewhere, uh, you can't get into your house, can't get into your car, whatever. Like, we'll do that. But so we we've kind of put up those boundaries and then I I've gotten to the point a lot of times that like if we're out doing something on a weekend or like during church, something like that, I just I leave my phone on silent and I call people back. Or or a lot of times at night, I I turn my phone on silent and I don't know. I know that's probably not the best thing, but like people just call and they don't leave a message. And so like I don't know what they need. And so it we've tried to put those boundaries in. It doesn't always happen. But but I try to make, you know, like if my kids are gonna have a ball game, I'm gonna try to at least make it there. Yeah, yeah. I may go back to work after that, yeah, but like I'm gonna try to say, hey, if if if they're playing ball, like I'm gonna, I may not make I like I may work late and be there later, but and I may have to go back later, but I'm gonna try to be there. And so just trying to do some intentional things there to like show up for my kids and I think is the the best way that we found that try to try to make that work-life balance work.

Faith And Growth On The Job

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. And and like you said, it's it's it's hard. Like no matter what kind of career you're doing, having a career and a family, and you want to be intentional because you only have so many years, you know, with your kiddos, and then then they hit teenager status, which you know right now, and it that changes kind of the ballgame, just like relationships and whatnot. Um just because going through puberty, teenagers, it just makes it fun. And so so I have friends, and well, yeah, they don't care about parents anymore. Yeah, like right. We're too cool for you. It's all right. I get it. All right. Well, you know, so yeah, we talked about how you're a pastor, you do ministry, and so uh one of the things is I wanted to highlight, I thought it'd be cool, is is like how have you seen guys show up in your work as a locksmith?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I mean, I I think one of the biggest ways that I've seen that is just his faithfulness to us. And and let me kind of explain that a little bit is that like you know, the the the locksmith, our or at least our business since I took it over has changed dramatically. Okay. In in what we do. And I mean, even in the last like we've seen kind of just shifts in in kind of what our our our focus is almost. So like when we when I when I first took it over, like we were pretty much re like did a lot of residential work, like reeking houses when people bought houses. We did a little bit of automotive work and then some commercial, like reeking businesses, fixing stuff on doors and things like that. And so it we we just kind of seen it shift multiple times in in over the years. So like we we may have like six months of hey, this is like this seems like the only job, the only type of jobs that we're doing. Um, but but in all of that, all of those shifts, one way I've seen maybe God working or God's just hand on it is that like almost for consistently we've seen growth.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And and so like it's just God's hand on there, like no matter what happens, God's hand's gonna be there to provide more work for us in a different area. So like when house ranking is slowed down, maybe because people weren't buying houses or whatever, they just decided not to get their locks changed, like then more commercial work came in. Okay and and so like it's just kind of there there's been this balance, and and I I just see that God is working it through in all of this to provide for us, to, to sustain the business. And you know, and then I on the other side of it, uh, you know, just a second way, I guess, maybe that we we've seen God at work is is just in in the way that He has He has used me or grown me in being able to deal with people and to you know, I talked about a few minutes ago, being able to read people, yeah, and and being able to show that grace and and and and just just in the knowledge of being able to deal with people. And and I think God is is really shaped me in the last decade or so of doing this, of dealing with people every day, of just I mean, you go from from dealing with people and in in a in a church setting to dealing with the general public that don't have any church background or for the majority, and now managing employees for the most part, you know, is is kind of my role now is as a lot of managing employees and making sure they need to wear everything. So it's just like God is shaping me in in uh how how I need to deal with him, and and God is working in me in this way and shaping me.

Why Connect Camp Feels Different

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because just like you said with the locks, like when you go when you go out for cause, like people are different. And so one employee is going to be completely motivated to buy a different way or may respond to things differently, and so it allows you to come in and say, Hey, I know you're frustrated right now. That guy was a jerk, but yeah, but let's let's let's work the walk through that a little bit so that way next time you can respond better or whatever the case may be. So it's really cool that it seems like you're more like in a shepherding role, which sounds weird in a in a business, but I I would definitely see that like, hey, you're investing in others now who are doing what you were doing, and so you can come in and be like, hey, let's walk through this. How can we do this better? Whatever the case may be. So that's really cool. And so, yeah, so I think that's awesome. You know, let's let's just gears just a little bit. You're on the Connect Camp leadership team. You've been a part of our team for well, I say our because I'm part of Connect Camp Lucian team too, but for the last four years, and you're the you're the drink guy, uh, your wife's a nurse. That's kind of been your your cemented roles in a sense over you over time. And I know you you love the kids well, and we you but you're like, hey, you need to get it, you know, like yeah, you know, so you you do a great job of just serving people. And so like for you, like what do you love about Kinect Camp?

SPEAKER_00

Man, I I just love the atmosphere. And and so for for anybody that doesn't know what Connect Camp is, is is kind of the best way to explain that is it is a full day of VBS on steroids. And so if you're familiar with Vacation for Bible School, VBS, it it is that with some added things to make it all day. And so it is like eight to five, high impact, and it's just it's a blast. And and our kids love it. They are asking to go back every year. They talk about it, they they they during during the week they they have to compete and do different cheer-offs and and to to win tokens, to to try to try to have uh bragging rights, if you will. And so, so like we'll we'll catch our kids months down the road still doing those chants, like or saying things like that. And so like like just to see their excitement, but what I really kind of just excites me about it is that it's not they don't just come here and say, okay, well, we're gonna do all these activities, we're gonna do, you know, whether it's archery or or basketball or getting like they have gets getting messy where they just cover each other in shaving cream kind of things, like or or whatever it is, whether they're teaching them how to be guys or girls or or whatever, like it's not those things with the gospel added. Like it is gospel centered. And and the whole point is to use those things, use all the all day, all week as an opportunity to share the gospel, to to impart the gospel onto these kids. And and I think like I think that's what just excites me about it is that it's just another tool for us to as churches, as Christians, to to reach out into the community and and to share the gospel in different ways with with the community. And you know, something that you know there's what 20, 25 percent is is kind of been our average of unchurch people.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think our average sits right about 22 years ago.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I was just saying, like just kind of generally in that area, I wasn't sure they number exactly, but yeah, so 22% is kind of our average of of people that are unchurch. And so, like you think about like a lot of a lot of churches for VBS, like they're pretty much their kids, church kids or their church kids from another church. Yeah, and so to say, hey, a quarter of these 200 kids that are coming to camp either don't have a church affiliation or not active in the church that we're sharing the gospel with, yeah, like routinely over and over throughout the week. And so like we are we are imparting those seeds, we are planting those seeds into those kids and their families' lives because they're excited to come back the next day to hear about Jesus and what Jesus has done for them. And so that's just what I think it's great, it excites me.

How Connect Camp Shapes Kids

SPEAKER_01

I've I'm I really enjoy Connect Camp the time there, and I think it's cool because we've gotten to see lots of people come to know Jesus, and I know like it's really easy to see numbers, yeah, but it's really cool because you get to see those kids outside of places, and so I've had people come up to me and like, are you the Connect guy? And I'm like, and sometimes I remember their name, sometimes I don't, but it was cool because you're wearing a Connect Cruise shirt today. I was wearing that same shirt in the Panera the other day, which I know is bougie. I don't go there a whole lot, but I walked in there and the guy serving us was like, Hey, oh, like, are you part of Kinet camp? And I was like, Yeah, and he was like, Oh, my my I think nephew or something like that goes to it, and it's been really cool. And he's like, I'm not a believer, I don't believe in that stuff, but I just think it's really cool what you guys are doing. And so like I just thought that was cool, and there's so many stories we can share. You know, the next question I'll ask you is about how how has it impacted your family. But before we get into that, just a fun story. I don't know if you know this story or not, but Jeremy Shift, so he's on our team, he's the fish guy in the area, he works for wildlife and biology. But after the first year of Connect Camp, Alex asked for a Kava-themed birthday party, and so they had it purple with the paws and the games and the the coins. It was cool. So anyway, so it's pretty neat. Connect camp's great. But let's go into how has Kinect Camp impacted your family.

SPEAKER_00

I know you touched on that just a little bit, but yeah, I I think you know, we we have our our teenager, you know, we we've been doing this for four years, so like our teenager was was there the first year, first two years, I guess.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And so now last year, she kind of was able to step into a role where she was able to serve. And like she loved it. She loved just being there and being able to jump in because she she gets just as excited about Connect Camp as the rest of the family. Where we're, you know, she's too old to participate in it. Excuse me, but but she is but she's old enough to to really kind of be in in a role where she can help. And so to be able to give her that opportunity and say, hey, you're excited about it, let's let's do it as a family. I mean, so the last couple years, like we've we've all gone. And we've all been a part of it, whether that is two or three kids involved in it, and and like our other kids, and so they look forward to it. I mean, and it is, you know, I I think it's impacted us because like they they get to they get to experience camp without without the the uh stress of being away from mom and dad. Yeah, yeah. You know, at night. And and so sometimes for our kindergartner first grader, like that's really stress. Like that's yeah, it is stressful. Even for a second grader sometimes. I mean, we've taken second graders to church camp and and away and and like you get them three hours from home, like that's a big deal. But yeah, but Kine Camp offers them that opportunity where they can still have a camp experience. And so, like for our our now first grader, like she loves it because she can go home and sleep in her own bed at night, yes, but still gets to experience camp. And so I think that like it's just I think it's la left a lasting endpoint pack that like there's the church can be fun, it can be exciting, yeah. The gospel message can be exciting. We can learn about the gospel in different ways, but then also like as they kind of get older and they step into that serving role, like they can say, hey, like even though you're not an adult, like there's still opportunities for you to serve. Yeah. There's still opportunities for you to be involved.

Sponsor Break

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and I think it's cool because as as being the host over the last couple of years, I I get emails almost yearly, like right after camp, like, hey, my daughter or son aged out. Like, can they be, can they be like a junior counselor? Like, can they can they can they help out next year? Um, if I have a mom this year who's emailed me probably six times since last camp uh over the span of a year and just said, please don't forget my daughter wants to jump in, she wants to help. I mean, she aged out. And so it's really cool to see those kids come back and and pour into what's been poured into them. It's that's really cool. And so, you know, when we were at KWC, we're not anymore, but when we were at KWC, every time we drove past, even though they'd be like, hey, look, it's Connect Camp. So sorry, KWC, for the for the branding confusion. But but now this year we're looking at being at Sutton, it's pretty cool, and I'll add all that to notes. I mean, that's not the point of this podcast. But, you know, has there been and I and I so look, you you've been around for a while, I've been around for a while. When you're around for a while, you go through hard seasons in life, you go through good seasons. Uh, what's a hard season that really shapes who you are today? Hey, quick pause. I'm Brad Winter, host of All Things Owensboro Podcast. If you're looking for a church that feels like home, we'd love to invite you to First Baptist Church Owensboro. We gather Sundays at 1030 a.m. right next to the Blue Bridge. Infos in the show notes, and if you reach out, my family will gladly sit with you. Looking for a place to get active, connect with others, and have fun as a family? Then come check out the rec at FBC Owensboro. From open gym and a weight room to upward sports and community events, there's something for everyone. Memberships are super affordable, just$2 a day,$10 a month, or$60 a year. And get this, families, you only pay$120 max for the entire family for the whole year. And if you're a senior, college student, or one of our city heroes, like a teacher, first responder, or healthcare worker, you get a discount too. The rec is more than a gym, it's a place to belong.

SPEAKER_00

I think uh hard season that that's really shaped us is uh I think uh really just the beginning of the business, like taking over. Like I had I had been working with my grandfather about a a little over a year just straight. Um but a little bit before that, kind of off and on over the past couple years before that, but like but but but there was so much because he was sick, there was so much that he was not able to show me. And so I think maybe that was one of the hardest times is like that first couple years, like there was so many things that like would take me so much longer because I just like I had to kind of figure it out. Like and so through some training and and and just overtime opportunities to do some training in different places and and things like that, like we we got to the place that we're at now. But but I think maybe that was one of the hardest seasons for the business is because like there was just so many things that like there was very limited in what I could do. And so like you get into a pickle, like you do the normal things, but then you get into a a situation, you know, working on some old, really old hardware on a door and just not familiar with it. And so it would take me a long time to try to figure that out, or working on a car, you know, making a key for a car that that was completely different than the the one I just did before that. So like trying to figure out how to troubleshoot it, do those things that that really he just didn't experience a lot because he just didn't deal with it. And so so I think that was probably one of the hardest transitions now, you know, 10 years later, like there's still things that I deal with that I've never seen, uh, but have a lot more working knowledge with it just being in the industry that long.

The Long Road To Forgiveness

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I was saying like even in like just digitally, everything's been so rapidly expanding. So like I know like cars, like all that stuff changed as cars or locks for the houses where people instead of putting keys, it's the code, you know, it's all kinds of different things. Right. Um I know you get to go to a locksmith gathering conference, I don't know what you call it, but get together and uh you get to take some classes on some new stuff, which is a great resource because again, there things are changing so much. It's good to be like, okay, like I don't really know anything about that, so let me jump into that and listen to them, take notes um and all that stuff. All right, and then real quick, this out. But are you cool with the asking the next question? Like the question. I mean, we can talk about it. Okay, I just don't I didn't want to like jump into it and you're like, uh okay. All right, yeah. So that's really cool. You know, like I said, getting to go to different places and learning more about how things are evolving and changing and how you can adjust accordingly. And that's probably a big part of what's helped you grow as well, you know, is being able to adjust on the fly. But you know, we I know just and I know this because me, me and you're are friends, and I've and I've known some of the story, but you know, I think, and the reason why I wanted to ask this today was really because I think it could help others out there who are dealing with a lot of struggle in this area. Um, I've had to go through this journey myself of forgiving my dad of things, and I don't I don't have time to go into all my story, but uh that was a long, hard process, and maybe one day I'll jump into it. But you know, you've had to go through the process of forgiving your dad. I didn't say it has to go through that process, but you chose to go through that process. Yeah, and that was hard. I mean, so so what what did that journey look like?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so just kind of a a little, we won't go into like I said, we just don't have time to go into the details, but yeah, just kind of real quick, like my the end of my high school journey, I guess, my parents ended up getting divorced. I went to college, and and so my really through about half of high school, my dad and I kind of had a rocky relationship, and it just a lot of arguing, a lot of just uncomfortable situations. And and so going into like after they divorced and he moved out, like we me and my sister used to live with our mom. And so, like going to college, and then I moved to Missouri after college and began pastoring a church, was there for about three and a half years, and and so uh that's where Emily and I met and uh ended up getting married uh while we were while I was living in Missouri. And and so like I didn't talk to my dad for for most of about six years. Okay. And uh like ignored his phone calls, like you know, he would try to call, ignore his phone calls, things like that. And it was Emily, when we were getting married, she said, Hey, you need you need to call your dad. And so just working through that, like we finally ended up dead. And I I I I called him and invited him to the wedding, and uh, we were able to sit down and just kind of have a conversation about things. Yeah. Um, and uh we re you know, we rekindled since then, and and uh honestly, I don't know that if she didn't push me to do that, that that we would have probably rekindled because there was it was just kind of in the back burner. Oh yeah, this is you know, I'm still harboring this resentment or whatever it was. And and so I think I I think she kind of gave me that push that I needed to say, hey, you you're gonna you're gonna regret him not being at your wedding long term. You're gonna regret him not being, you know, in your grandkids' lives. And I would at this point because I mean he it was just like especially living in Owens World, like he lives here, he works for the business. Yeah, I see. He works for us. So like like it's just it's so so crazy how things have come because it's like we have a really good relationship now, like you know, so like he's super involved in our kids' lives, and and so I I'm thankful that we were able to work through that and and restore that relationship that had been broken uh because of past events, you know. Yeah, yeah, and I get that.

Choosing The Legacy That Lasts

SPEAKER_01

And like sometimes, you know, I owe a lot more to Brittany than I than I admit a lot of times. Yeah, uh, but having a wife is a good thing, you know, and so uh not that it was a bad thing, but I'm saying like it's just moments like that, you're like, yeah, if it wasn't for her, like I probably would I probably would have been stupid, whatever the case may be. And so, you know, you talked about you know rekindling your relationship with your dad. And the cool thing is like I didn't realize this when I gave you the questions, but it's kind of turned a little bit of a full circle here. But we talked about when you took over the business, you got to hear for about five years, and I'm sure you even get to hear even some today of your grandfather's legacy. And so, you know, this is kind of like the most morbid question I asked, but you know, what legacy do you hope that you leave? Like when everything's all said and done, like people think of Matt Boyd, what is the legacy you hope to leave?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you know, I I I think there's two things, you know, like right now in this situation in life, like I want to leave the legacy of of the business. Like, hey, this guy, he ran this business for generations, you know, or or whatever, decades. And but you know, I think I think bigger than that is is I want to leave a legacy for my family, uh, maybe most importantly, that like that I love Jesus. And that I like I loved them and showed them how to love Jesus. And and I think that that's probably the biggest legacy that I want to leave is is uh not I mean the success in the business world, like that's great, but you know, reality is that a few years down the road, like that may not matter. My family may remember it, um but but I think that like that the legacy with Jesus, like leaving, leading them to Jesus is gonna ultimately lead the generations to come, yeah, even if it's just in their family to Jesus. And you know, I I see some of that played out now. Like our our son, like he goes to the dentist and like he starts talking to his dental hygienist about like where she goes to church and things that I'm like like so excited. I'm like, because like maybe that's not me, but like but God is working through me to to impart that and give him that excitement, yeah, yeah, and to say and encourage him and say, hey, listen, don't let this fizzle out. Like and to encourage him and to lead him and to teach him and you know, things like that.

Rapid Fire Owensboro Favorites

SPEAKER_01

And yeah, and it's really cool you say that because I know Lincoln and I'm like thinking of him like I could totally see him do a bad and I think of like Evie who's very similar to Lincoln, weirdly enough. Uh and we were I remember we were doing something, I won't say names, but we were at an event and she turned around to the one of the ladies at the event and she said, So you go to church? She's like, Well, why don't you go to church? You know? I was like, All right, Evie. And again, that's we're not we're not practicing we're not saying like we're teaching our kids to be like, you know, like hardcore, like push it down your throat. But it's just kind of fun to see, like, you know, hey, like what you Sometimes you don't realize the impact you're making in your kids' lives spiritually in general. So when things like that pop up, you're like, well, that's really cool. You know, I got to be a part of that. I mean, so that's really neat. So well, we're gonna transition the 270 seconds of fame, a trap of fire. Uh I don't I don't give you the questions in advance. I know you have a few that you'll see the top first couple, but it's like real fast thinking. Uh just answer questions. Are you ready? Sure. All right, which one word to describe Owensboro? Um Goldilocks. Goldilocks, okay. I like that. Uh what is the best local spot to eat after a long day? Um I I really like Old South. Old South? Okay. What's your favorite thing, Old South?

SPEAKER_00

Uh fried chicken. Fried chicken.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they get they do that for kickings, dude. All right, uh when it comes to what you like to eat, what you like, and you're a great cook, do you? I didn't get a chance to mention that, but barbecue or burger? Um it's uh a burger. Burger, okay. Uh you're locked out of your house or your truck. Which is worse?

SPEAKER_00

Uh I would say house. Uh because uh I guess it depends on where you're at, but I would say house.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Alright, craziest place you've ever had to unlock something.

SPEAKER_00

Um man, I I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Um yeah, I don't know. Okay. Alright, what's the most common mistake people make with their keys?

SPEAKER_00

Um leaving them in vehicles.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Or leaving them in their pocket when they're riding roller coasters. Uh that that's pretty common too.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, I always take everything. I'm scared to lose stuff, so I put everything out uh in a box. But alright, um, let's see. Well, I didn't get to ask. This is not in here, but I'm gonna ask you because I know we're both big uh howdy roll-up roller coaster fans. Favorite roller coaster or howdy rolled on why?

SPEAKER_00

Um I would uh probably the Voyage. The Voyage. I like Voyage. Yeah, the Voyage is great. It is great, and it's uh I mean it's just it's long enough that it it's exciting and uh it doesn't it doesn't beat you up, man. And as bad as uh I was gonna say there's some time. Yeah, I was gonna say a wooden coaster and uh it it yeah, I mean it's rough. It's a wooden coaster, uh, but it's uh it's I mean it's long enough that it gives you a pretty good thrill.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. No, it's a phenomenal ride. We got to ride uh our wives and and when we all went to Holiday World during the nighttime and got to ride to Boy Janight, and that was a lot of fun. Probably like, oh, it's just great. Anyway, I can go like a whole podcast on roller coasters. I won't. Um all right, so uh if your life had a key, well, this is weird. If your wife, if your life had a key, what would it unlock? Um if you don't have an answer, that's okay. Um sorry, before last year, you know, you were the last Apollo football team to make it to the second round. What what was that experience like?

SPEAKER_00

Um, yeah, I mean, I I don't know. I I think uh for me I I was like, man, I I didn't even realize it. And uh because like I just hadn't I hadn't followed um uh football, you know, Apollo football for a long time. I knew that they were not super successful uh in in kind of the years after us. Um but uh to hear that uh last year, like it was it was really cool to say like hey, I was part of that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um and uh to think, man, like it's like that that we were the last ones, like not like oh no, we we did it, like you know, and it and it wasn't and it was um it wasn't like we were one of the teams that did it. Yeah, yeah. But like in in 20 years, like we were the last team to do it. Yeah, like I think that's a pretty cool thing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that is really cool. That's neat. Yeah, I I wanted to throw that in there real quick with Apollo, uh, you being part of Apollo. All right, uh, for you is are you better are you more of a Friday night lights kind of guy or Saturday college football? Uh college football. College football, all right, and then obviously UK. Yeah, okay. Uh I've seen your shirt, so I need to push. Hey, yeah, they're awful, but hey, we're we're got a new coach. Hey, you got the number two quarterback in the nation. Yeah. Uh all right. Uh, you know, as a Kentucky fan, who who's your favorite basketball player at Kentucky at all time? Oh man. I know that's how um yeah. Oh man, I don't know. Okay. All right, I didn't know if you had a favorite growing up or not.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, I mean there was there was a lot of good players in uh, you know, just there's been a lot of good players. Um I I would say either under Patino or maybe even early Cal.

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Really?

SPEAKER_00

Cal. I mean, there's just been some phenomenal players. I mean, yeah, you know, just uh just in general. But but my you know, my downside is that they just don't stay.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know, they're they're phenomenal at the college level, um, and uh they just they they they chased a dream of being in an NBA or or now they just transfer. And I get that.

SPEAKER_01

I mean I get it.

SPEAKER_00

I get it, but uh, you know, they uh yeah, it just that yeah, there's been a lot of good players at Kentucky.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, all right, so this one might be a little controversial, but what's one word for UK basketball right now?

SPEAKER_00

Um the next big thing.

SPEAKER_01

The next big thing, okay.

SPEAKER_00

That's not one word, but no, you're good, you're good.

SPEAKER_01

All right, uh, what's your f you know you camp a lot, we can touch on that, but what's your where has been your favorite place that your family has camped?

SPEAKER_00

Um I I really liked Lake Malone. Okay. Um and uh they have uh big twig figures and uh some hiking. It's a state park, um, not too far from here, but that's probably been my favorite.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, all right, sweet. Um, all right, for you, uh is it mountains or beach? What's what's your go-to vacation spot?

SPEAKER_00

Um for me, I I would say the mountains.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, alright, gotcha. Uh, what's your go-to family night activity outside of sports? Uh card, card games. Card games, okay. Yeah, we get to play a couple guard games with you guys. Uh, what is one verse of truth? Or yeah, what's one verse? Sorry, I read that wrong. What's one verse that you tend to lean on more than others? Bible verse.

SPEAKER_00

Um you know, I you would think I'd be able to spit that out. No, you're okay. Um, I have several to you. Yeah, I I would think uh um yeah. Um you know, I I don't know. Um just like yeah. Um that's a good question. Yeah, I'll put you on the spot. You did, you did. You put me on the spot, and I should have I should be able to spit that off, but um, you know, I I don't um Or do you have like a favorite book or anything? Like that I don't know that helps it any, but sure. Um I I really like I like the book of Mark. Okay. Um and I just like the succinctness of Mark's gospel. Gotcha. And uh and and I like that because it's like like he he is cut and dry on the the gospel and leaves a lot of questions, like leaves a lot of opportunity to be like, well, why do you think he ended here when these other gospels didn't? Um and and I think maybe you know uh Romans is great and and in um chapter five, I think it is a Romans, like he they the Paul says, you know, there there's um there is um um that nothing can remove us from the hand of God.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And um like I I just I love that because it's it just reminds me that like even myself, like that there's nothing that I can do that will push God away from me, not for him to come back and say, I still love you and I still care for you. And so sometimes we think that um that that you know that something in our lives can make us too far from God. And and the reality is that that's just not what that's not what the gospel tells us. Yeah. Is that no matter what, that God loves us and God wants us to come back to Him.

SPEAKER_01

Which is beautiful because I feel like when you talk to people about the gospel, some most some a lot of the common, I guess, uh what do you call it, responses that I get are well if you just knew what I did, yeah, you know, and I think that's a great example of saying, hey, it doesn't matter what you did. Like God tells you, like, you know, He's He loves you regardless. Right. Um and so that's really cool. Um that could be a podcast in itself too. But um are you an early morning quiet guy, quiet time guy, or are you a late night prayer guy? Oh, I'm an early morning guy. All right, yeah. I try to do that.

SPEAKER_00

I I I yeah, I I try to be in most mornings I get up pretty early. Uh I mean I'm not like no like four or four thirty guy, but I try to get up um, you know, between 5 30 and 6, and and most of the kids, most of the time the kids don't get up till about 6 30. So like that gives me some time to to drink coffee and just um a lot of times I spend time just praying with God and just that's cool. That's cool. All right, uh, one way God's grown you recently. Um one way God's and uh you know there's it's been a um a lot of transition in the last year. Okay and uh uh left the uh ministry position I was at about six months ago, and um I I think in that I I think there's been a lot of growth in that and and just a lot of opportunities to reflect and and and God is just um I I think more than anything is just saying, hey, just wait on me. You know? And uh I think that's one thing that I didn't do um and just kind of jumped maybe too early, and so he's just saying, hey, wait on me. Yeah, and uh wait on the opportunity and it'll be there.

SPEAKER_01

So that's cool. Uh what do you love most about Kinect Camp? I think we kind of touched on this already. We did, yeah. So let's just get that one. Uh all right, so and we we've read the last one too. So the last question I have for you is it mutton or burgoo?

SPEAKER_00

Um, my like my previous.

SPEAKER_01

Like, what's your go-to?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, mutton.

Final Message And Local Plug

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, that's cool. All right, well, the good thing is you passed. Uh, you know, if we're taking a test, not that we are, uh, you would have passed. So, you know, that's been great. It's been really cool getting to hear just a lot of the stories and how uh the locksmith business has influenced your ministry and your faith, and vice versa. Um and so one last question I'd like to ask every single person, and I don't script this because I I think it's better, but like if you could leave our audience one thing, like if they listen to this whole podcast and they're like, or this whole episode and they've they forgot everything, like what is one thing you would like to leave the listeners? I know, I know. But this is I'm telling you, it's uh I love this question.

SPEAKER_00

If if you need lock if you need locksmith work, call Chuck's locksmith. Call for Chuck. Call and ask for Chuck at Chuck's locksmith. And but but no, seriously, I mean that would be my that would be my plug. Uh is to say, hey, we're we're the local company, uh, we've been here for 30 years. We're gonna we're gonna try to do our best uh to serve you and do do our best uh to make you happy. And so give us a call, give us an opportunity to do that.

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Yeah, and just just heads up if you're still listening at this point, which I hope you are, we were going to put his Facebook link and their information into our show notes. And so if you're like, man, like I just need to get his stuff just in case I forget my keys one day, we already have the links for you, so go ahead and save them, pre-save them, get them ready. Uh Matt, I appreciate you sharing your story today. Uh it was really cool just hearing different things. Real, it was real, it was honest. Um I think it's something that a lot of people can relate to, whether they run a locksmith business or they're a banker or they work for uh universe or something, you know. And so if you enjoyed this episode, go ahead and share it with somebody who needs it. Go ahead and share and and go ahead and follow Matt's Chocolate Chuck I can't speak Chuck's Locksmith service on Facebook. They're posting a lot, they sometimes post-free coffee giveaways, so we look out for that too. But anyway, Owensborough, have a great week again. So grateful that we got into one year. Uh it's been awesome. We're at this point, we're almost at 3,000 downloads, uh, which blows my mind uh personally. So I just want to appreciate my gra you guys for that and show my gratitude for that. I mean, look forward to the next couple weeks. Alright, Owens Bro, have a great week. Thanks for tuning in to All Things Owensboro, where we celebrate the stories, people, and places that make our city special. If you enjoyed today's episode, be sure to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who loves this town as much as you do. Until next time, Owensboro, keep loving local, supporting one another, and making Owensboro a place we're all proud to call home.