Why I’m Leaving Owensboro | The Final All Things Owensboro Episode

A podcast finale should feel like a mic drop. Ours feels more like packing boxes with a full heart. Tyler Dill sits on the other side of the table and interviews me for the last All Things Owensboro conversation, and we talk honestly about what this Owensboro Kentucky community podcast has been trying to prove from day one: everybody has a story worth listening to, and you never know whose life it will touch.

We dig into what actually makes a great interview, from doing real research to staying curious enough to follow the unexpected thread. I also share a surprise I didn’t expect to learn from the download stats: the “biggest names” aren’t always the episodes that hit the hardest. Often it’s the most ordinary person telling the most honest story about grief, faith, family, business, fear, and redemption. That theme leads into some of the most personal moments, including my experience with OCD and intrusive thoughts, depression, and the reminder that feeling alone doesn’t mean you are alone.

Then we zoom out to what Owensboro has taught our family: relationships matter, serving your community changes you, and support should show up before places close their doors. We talk schools, camps, sports, missions in the Dominican Republic, and why we believe stories can make the church feel less “churchy” and more human. Finally, I explain why we’re moving to Lake Charles, Louisiana, what scares me about the transition, and a new podcast idea we’re calling Whispers On The Bayou.

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Transcript

Final Episode And What’s Next

SPEAKER_03 0:01

Everybody has a story, it's worth listening to. I just think a lot of people don't realize that they have a story to share. So But yeah, I think the cool thing about podcasts, and especially telling the story side of things, is it tells people like, hey, you're you're not alone and you're not the only person, you're not crazy. Everybody goes through things, and and so I think that's a cool part of the podcast. Everything's about relationships, you know, like, and it's not for anything for me to get out of, but that's been my whole experience. Like, like we're not I'm not leaving Owensboro because we didn't like Owensboro. You know, like we love we love the town, uh, we love everything about it, and and we've had some really good relationships, and I think I think that's another thing that Owensboro should show me is that you know, again, you make what you want to make your experience, but I think relationships have been a big part of that. Hey guys, welcome back to All Things Owensboro. And if you didn't know, this is the final episode. Today, instead of me interviewing somebody else, somebody's interviewing me. So let's do this one last time. Hey guys, welcome back to All Things Owens Pearl. And if you didn't know, unfortunately, this is my last podcast for All Things Owensboro. Now, doesn't mean I'm just going away and disappearing completely, but we we'll we'll publish more about that later. But as far as Owensboro Owensboro goes, it's my last one. It's not because uh the podcast has been terrible, it's not because you guys have not been listening, but it's because I'm about to embark on a new journey with my family to Louisiana, uh Lake Charles, which is the southwest side of the state, not New Orleans. And yeah, it's it's scary, it's new. We love Owensboro, so it's not something in our cards for 2026, but maybe we'll get into some of that a little bit today. But today, instead of me interviewing someone, I have someone interviewing me, and that is Tyler Dill. He's the owner of Bluegrass Bourbon Dessert Bar over there at Williamsburg Square and uh right across from OCC and uh has a thriving business. Had him on closer to uh Father's Day or uh at least, I think I tried to. And Tyler's been a faithful listener to All Things Owned For All, and I thought it'd be cool and and really fitting to have Tyler come on and interview me. So, Tyler, thanks for coming on today, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:16

Yeah, no problem. And you said it's your final one, but you may be back.

SPEAKER_03 2:21

Yeah, yeah, we'll see. You know, there's a possibility and lay Charles for me to come out with one or have some stuff in the works, but like I said, we'll we'll kind of keep that down low, maybe announce that in the next couple weeks after a move down there.

SPEAKER_02 2:33

So yeah, not even that. I mean, because you never know. It could bring you back up here.

SPEAKER_03 2:39

It could, yeah, yeah. You never know. So there's an opportunity for me to come back for sure. Uh never want to close the door on God. And like I said, we'll get into that in just a few a little bit. But yeah, there's an opportunity for me to start season two of all things Owensboro. Not in Owensboro, different name, but probably the same uh hosting platform so you guys can follow along. Again, it won't be Owensboro, but it's still people telling stories, and that's what we're all about is coming to the table. Literally, me and Tyler are sitting at a table in his his restaurant or or business. I don't know what I'm gonna call it, restaurant, business, dessert bar. And and that's what we want to do. We want to keep bringing people on, share their story. Everybody has a story, it's worth listening to. I think a lot of people don't realize that they have the story to share.

SPEAKER_02 3:17

So yeah, so shall we jump right into it? Yeah, Tyler, I'll let you, I'll let you leave from here, man.

SPEAKER_03 3:22

All right, so I mean you are kind of almost a year in. Yeah, we're actually a year. We started April 21st, so we're a year and uh when we end this, we'll be a year and six weeks

Why Stories Matter So Much

SPEAKER_03 3:33

in.

SPEAKER_02 3:33

All right. So what what made you want to do a podcast about Owensboro and the people?

SPEAKER_03 3:38

Yeah, no, that's a great question. You know, I have a broadcasting background. Uh that was my undergrad actually. I mean, I've enjoyed editing and meeting with people. I've done some podcasts previously with some friends. I've done a sports and faith one, I've done one at a previous church I was at for our Upward Parents, which is sports leagues. And so when I got here, I thought, man, that'd be really cool to start one. Uh, but I was brand new. So I was like, I don't want to want to talk to some guy from Oklahoma City that talks really fast and doesn't know Owen Troll. So I waited a few years and had some changes come up at work. And uh because of those changes, I asked if I can explore this idea that I've had for a while. Um originally I wanted to have you know like the three main barbecue places come on and do, you know, blindfolded people trying barbecue and tell seeing what's best compared to their presuppositions when they're not blindfolded. But and of course that stuff hasn't happened. But really, I think what was great and what really happened was that we were able to tell stories. And and that was the main thing. Like for me, it was like, how do I get out and connect with people in the community as a pastor in a non-threatening way? Um again to build relationships with people who either are believers or aren't believers, and just creating friendships, but also having those conversations and learning from people. I've I've learned a lot, learned a lot from from you, from Coach Drake, from you know, so many people who have been on Vicky and Jay Johnson and and all those guys, you know, there's there's tons of podcasts. We have like 61, I think, up to this point. And so, you know, there's lots of stories that I can reflect on and say, man, like that really taught me XYZ. And I think that's been really cool.

SPEAKER_02 5:08

Yeah, so talking about you, because you said you've been on multiple podcasts before and done multiple before going on your own. Yeah. Which things did you bring from each one in and made it your own for all things owned, bro?

SPEAKER_03 5:22

Yeah, no, that's a great question. I think for me, so we the one that I ran for about three, maybe four years was one called Golden Point Sports. We don't we haven't recorded in a couple years, so don't you go look for it when it's old. I think one of the last things we did was the last dance uh documentary over Michael Jordan and the Bulls. And but but I think what I learned from that was one podcasting is an opportunity to share to share the gospel and to share Jesus. And and Golden Point Sports, I I would relate what was going on with with something that was spiritual or faith-based, and that was pretty cool, like the draft or whatever. And so, but but one of the cool things we did in the summertime is that we got a little bit of bold boldness in us, and we started reaching out to former athletes, D1 professionals, all that stuff, and we'd have them come on and talk about their career and all that stuff. I think for me, what I brought from that is that I had to come up with questions. So what I would do is I would research the snot out of that person. So thank you, Google. This is before AI, all that stuff. And you know, I looked at their career stats, looked at their stories. And my thing was, hey, let's listen to a few podcasts they've been on, if they've been on one, so I don't ask the same generic questions that I think I've been asked for on the other four podcasts. And so I think for me, like what I've tried to do, and maybe it has been the best at times, but what I try to do is I try to think of questions that maybe they have been asked before, but but I also do a lot of research. So like even when I, you know, interviewed you, I looked up Tyler Dill. Hey, give me information on Tyler Dill and whatever I could pull. And okay, like what could I pull and talk to Tyler Dill about? You know, I didn't, you know, me, I was just looking at your arm and saw that there's a jackrabbit. I'm like, oh, South Dakota State. And next thing you know, we're talking about you know South Dakota, South Dakota State jackrabbit. So, you know, I think for me, it's just trying to be observant, looking at places that maybe I'm not even thinking about, being able to pull questions from there. As far as Upware goes, like we did overtime, it was really more of a parenting podcast. And what was really cool is just the guests I had on. Like one of my favorite ones is why is diversity important in your kids' lives? And I had the Spanish pastor come on, which we were great friends at that point. And you know, it was really cool because he was saying, like, we've been in the Disney World, and my kids' favorite experience is when we went to a mission trip to Ecuador, you know, and so it was just stuff like that where it's like, okay, like for me, I think what was cool about those podcasts is allowed me to realize, okay, like I could sit down and dictate the interview, or I can sit down and just talk and get to see some cool things that I wouldn't have thought about if I just stick to the script.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

Yeah, and you know, going off on your own, you never know is it gonna work out? Are people gonna listen? What made you come to the realization, hey, there's a lot of stories of people coming in, people leaving, and a lot of people not knowing what certain people are, because in a community community kind of small, we kind of stick to our own, and so trying to bring in outsiders in, insiders out, what was your main focus, or was that your main focus? Was to get the community to know, hey, just because someone's an outsider doesn't mean you can't connect on a personal level or sports or food or whatnot.

Outsider Lens And Community Connection

SPEAKER_03 8:30

Yeah, no, that's a good question. I think for me, I think being an outsider probably helped that a little bit of okay, I'm not born and raised Owensboro. And uh, but I will also say too, I've had people come on, I'm thinking, okay, they're born and raised Owensboro, and they're not. We've had uh James Gage come on, Owensboro food critic, and I'm like, hey, tell me how you grew up in Owensboro. And he's like, Well, actually, I grew up in San Jose, California, you know? And so I've had I've actually had a look quite a few people come on that are not Owensboro natives like I thought they were, and that and that's okay. But I think for me, I don't know, I I guess in my mind I didn't have quite I didn't have an agenda. And what I mean by that is like I wasn't looking for now at times like could we get Aaron Kaiser on? Yeah, let's get Aaron Kyshron. That was a great episode, you know. But at the same time, I'm just like, hey, I just I'm just looking for people to come on and I'm looking for people to come on and just be willing to share a story, yeah, whether they're owing for or not.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

So as since you're a parent and this podcast is your baby, yeah, knowing other people's that have been successful and you slowly starting out, kind of like you at a park where your daughter pooped on the playground, not know not knowing what to do. That was my oldest, yeah. Was this podcast kind of a little scary of hey, I have this poop on the playground, what do I do with it?

SPEAKER_03 9:54

I think there's been that's funny. I'm assuming you reached out the bricky. Yeah, my daughter, uh we were at a playground just real quick. We were at a playground, and she was about two, and we just had or no, she was three, we just had Ellie, our youngest, and uh so I was playing dad at park while my wife was working, and my oldest decided she just wanted to drop a turd in the middle of the playground in front of everybody. Um and I was super embarrassed, and all the dads were like, it's okay, it happened to me. And I was like, Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who has a kid just randomly pooping in public park. So so that was that was crazy. So as far as the podcast, I guess the podcast ever felt like it's just pooping in the park in front of everybody. You know, I think for me, I think one of the biggest surprises was, you know, I thought early on, uh not really early on, I would even say even halfway through, like, okay, like let I just need to get the bigger names on, right? And so the the Julius Maddox's, the Aaron Kaisers, the Ben Ski Addis, the the uh Olga McKizzick, you know, like there, and there's lots of others too. But you know, my thought was I just gotta get those on. And once I get those on, then the then the podcast is gonna take off. When real realistically, like love those guys and some of the guys who have come on, but they're nowhere near the the closest to being the highest downloaded podcast. And so I think for me it just showed me, okay, like just because they have they have a big name, they have a following, does not necessarily mean, and not that I do this for the numbers, but it doesn't necessarily mean I want to hit like 200 downloads and it's gonna explode. And so so I think for me it was really it showed me that just because these are bigger names in the community, which they're great people, doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna I want to be able to go off their curtails in a sense and and just explode. And again, my my goal was never just to be sitting here with two, three, four, five, eighteen thousand reviews. You know, that's that wasn't my goal. It hasn't been my goal, but I just thought, man, if I can just get some of these bigger people on, one, I get to hear their story, and then two, you know, who knows what could come out of that. And realistically, that was just a that's just a false assumption. Um, and realistically, it comes down to the actual story and not not just the personality.

SPEAKER_02 11:52

So out of all the people that you interviewed, what one story actually stands out?

The Stories That Changed Him

SPEAKER_03 11:57

One story, man, it's a lot. Uh I had 61 episodes, or I said I guess 62 or 63 by the time this one comes out. But man, you know, Vicky's, Vicky Embry's, she's probably she was our first for a while, and then Cody Rusberg took over as the number one episode. I think I didn't know her story. She reached out to me at the very beginning and said, Hey, this is my story. Didn't know if it'd be worth sharing, or if that's something you do with your podcast. And I told her a story is a story, let it let's share it. And that was, I think that was probably the more emotional one for me. You know, like the fact that she had to walk through going to work in Louisville, coming home to a husband who was murdered by a guy he was mentoring, having two young children that she adopted. And and I and I use the pickle story a lot in my reflections, but honestly, that that is just stuck with me. Like the fact that she went to Walmart a couple weeks after, didn't want to talk to anybody. I don't I don't blame her, she's grieving, right? And so, and you know, a lady drops a pickle jar in the aisle over, and and she goes over there, the lady's crying, and she's like, Are you okay? Or something like that. And the lady said, Well, you don't even know what I've gone through. And Vicky's like, actually, like, my husband was just murdered. I I haven't been wanting to get out. But but it was but even before going over and addressing the lady, she had this fight with like in her head of a god of like God's like, go talk to this lady. She's like, I'm not talking to this lady, I have my own stuff going on, you know. Um, and I think that's where God uses us the most, but just that rawness, I think, of just her her story, and then to find out that the lady's husband died two weeks ago in a car accident, she's left with two youngins, you know, like that's that's rough. And the fact that they were able to connect. And I so I think like for me, like, and I know I've used that one a lot, but that's probably one that stuck with me probably the most. And not that the other ones aren't important, but even I I guess even another one maybe would be Adam Overalls. Like, I know I've known Adam for the last four or five years, and to me, Adam just seemed like the average Joe, you know, he's which is not a bad thing. Uh and he came on, and I think his story of just how the church, like he left the church and he was a knucklehead, and he knew he was. But when he got back to church, they could have easily been like, hey, like that that's that's the the trouble kid over there. I mean, but but instead they flipped it and they they loved on him, and that's why he got back in the church. And and so I think like I think for me, like that just is a really good example of like God's grace for us. Like, you know, and I I'm not trying to get like over spiritual anybody here or anything like that, but but in real honesty, like you know, we're all we're all sinful, you know, and we we're separated from God, and God could easily be like, I don't want anything to do with you, I'm holy, I'm perfect, I can't be involved with somebody who's not perfect, not holy, and is sinful, and yet he still sent his son to die for us, so we could have a relationship with him. And I think that was that was a perfect example of them showing that to Adam of like, hey, like you're that knucklehead, and we could tell you, hey, we don't want you in this church. We're we're we're trying to be as perfect as we can, but instead they flipped it and said, Hey, like, we want you here, we love, we're loving on you, you know, thanks for coming back. And so, you know, I I just think like that to me was huge and it was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 14:52

Yeah, that that story kind of reminds me of another story. I don't know if it's real or not, but it was this biker punk looking kid. He just wanted to see how other people would treat him. So he went to different churches and different places, and they didn't want to be associated with him. But then he went to one church, and these two old ladies are like, Have you ever been to church before? And you're gonna sit with us, and then said, Hey, next week you're gonna come, we're gonna get you some food and all that stuff. So with with that, I mean, because people can look one way, but you never know what their their heart is until you actually get to know them.

SPEAKER_03 15:31

Yeah, and I I I get that. Like, I don't know. I think for me, like we hear so many bad things about the church, and I'm not and I'm not saying church is perfect or people in the church are perfect. I'm not saying I'm perfect, you know. I've I've judged people before. That has not been a fair judgment, you know. But but they hear I think they hear stories like the old ladies who loved on the biker who came in who didn't look anything like them, or or Adam who, you know, he had a reputation at Third Baptist as a kid and coming back and being loved on, you know. I think those are the the stories that we miss out on a lot is is that we want to and I get me wrong, like I know religion is not the best thing to talk about in a mixed company, but at the same time, I think we we miss out on those stories too. Like we hear all the bad stuff when there's good stories out there like that.

SPEAKER_02 16:13

Yeah, and I mean, because with stories, because if you don't talk about you know your past, good or bad, yeah, how can you connect on a personal level? You know, and good thing with with this podcast is you're reaching out, you're trying to get people's stories to where maybe a listener is like, I've been through that, how can I help the next generation? Or someone who's you know started a business, if someone wants to do a business, now they got someone that has experience instead of you know starting a different route and made it to where they don't know all the answers. So this just kind of helps bridge that gap.

SPEAKER_03 16:57

Oh yeah, yeah, for

OCD, Depression, And Not Alone

SPEAKER_03 16:58

sure. Yeah, I was thinking like, you know, 2021, you know, I I've been I've been diagnosed with OCD, like and not just putting things in order, like intrusive obsessive thoughts. And I've shared that once in one of the episodes, but I don't share it a ton because people don't quite understand it and it it gets kind of weird real quick. But in saying that, you know, 2021, I went through a really, really tough battle with OCD or 2022. We were buying a house, it probably came from a lot of the stress from that. I mean, I got very depressive. And in fact, I don't know if I've even shared this before, but I was thinking even like suicide at one point. I'm just I'm just being honest. And I remember going to counseling, and I thought I would tell my counselor, which went to Gary Barker, amazing counselor, would suggest something to anybody can't campus compass can't count counseling, not a sponsor could be, but and he I'd be like, Man, I'm like, Gary, like, why am I the only one that's having these obsessive intrusive thoughts? And you know, he made it really clear that like everybody's going through something, they're just not always vocal about it, you know, and so we can always learn from somebody else. And I and I think I and the only reason why I'm sharing that is I feel like it goes back to what you were saying, is like it may not be depression or OCD or even a seriousness as like suicidal thoughts, but but I do think it goes back to like even if you own a business, like if you listen, you might think I'm I'm the only person in the world going through this specific thing, but then you can listen to a story and say, Man, like they went through the same thing I did, or I'm going through a similar experience and I can learn from that. So I don't know. I don't know if that really matches up. I guess there's a bridge there, but but yeah, I think the cool thing about podcasts, and especially telling the story side of things, is it tells people like, hey, you're you're not alone and you're not the only person, you're not crazy. Everybody goes through things, and and so I think that's a cool part of the podcast.

SPEAKER_02 18:44

So when did you get involved in with the church mainly in your adult life? Was that before or after you and your brother started fires in the trash cans?

SPEAKER_03 18:58

Well, you know, that was that was uh way after. I'm not an arson, I'm not a pyro, but and and my relationship with my older brother is definitely complicated. But you know, for me when it comes to church, you know, we we would go to church on Christmas and Easter. I mean, that was kind of our thing was we don't really go to church, but Chris Christmas and Easter we're gonna be there. And then when my so my parents divorced when I was eight, I mean I left my dad until I was ten, and we we definitely kept the Christmas Easter thing. I mean, with my mom when I was 10. And we went to the church a little bit more. I've been to pretty much every kind of denomination out there, but it wasn't until my senior year where I realized, man, like I'm in school telling people I'm a believer, but the next sentence out of my mouth is is full of curse words where it's a dirty joke. Or so to me, it wasn't I wasn't reflecting Christ in any kind. I mean, I was telling I was walking the walk or whatever whatever, but I wasn't talking or I was talking the talk, but I wasn't walking the walk. And um really it wasn't until my senior year, I just kept hearing, you know, the fruits of the spirit. If you're familiar with that, if you're not, it's in Galatians, but it's peace, patience, kindness, goodness, self-control, goodness. I go on on to a little bit of a longer, but you there's fruits of the spirit. I thought, man, I'm I'm and the weird thing is I heard it in three different places in a matter of two weeks at three three different places. So again, I'm not going to the same church at this time, and I and I kept hearing fruits of the spirit. I'm thinking, man, I don't I don't do any of those fruits of the spirit. I mean, I may be calm when I want to be, but I'm really a jerk. I mean, I would bully people. I mean, it it just I wasn't reflecting the fruits of the spirit at all. And I realized then on March 17th of 2020, my senior year, that I don't I didn't have really have a relationship with Christ. It was just something I identified with, but I didn't actually have a relationship with Christ. So I I gave my life to Christ my senior year, and that's when I really started getting involved with the church. And so it wasn't just hey, come to youth group, it was hey, I'm reading my Bible now on my own, trying, I'm asking questions, I'm I'm I'm exploring opportunity, maybe even going into ministry at this time.

SPEAKER_02 20:49

So that's probably where trying to make up for what you did younger, just so you can.

SPEAKER_03 20:54

Maybe a little bit. I don't know. I'm not sure if I really had that thought of like making up for my younger years, but looking back, if I tell people like, man, they're like, Man, you're so chill, you're nice. I'm like, well, that was BC like before Christ. Like you you didn't know me beforehand, you know. And and I and I think and not not to brag, again, I'm not perfect, I'm not, and nor am I trying to be, but I will say like where I was before I knew Christ and where I am now is a complete 180. Like, like if you knew me in high school and you said, hey, you're gonna be a minister who does podcasts and does rec ministry and does community engagement, tell people about Jesus, I probably would have laughed at you. Like you're crazy.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

So more involved after after high school. Yeah, yeah, after high school for sure. You know, were you part of doing Faust and Cravens or what came

Serving Owensboro Through Schools

SPEAKER_02 21:39

first? Faust and Cravens or those canoe camps?

SPEAKER_03 21:42

So Canuck Camp, well, I've I would say a little bit of both. So what what helped with Cravens is when we came to Owensbury is October 2020. So it's still during still during COVID. When I remember that we had this like drive through pounding, and the principal of Cravens, who I didn't know was principal at the time, came through and and I found out she's principal. And I said, hey, I I love for us to connect with the local school. And you know, we did it, and there was nothing, like, there was no benefits for us in connecting, you know what I mean? So like it wasn't just like there was a hidden agenda there. And so we she got us, we got involved with beautifying the school and reaching out to the teachers. But yeah, so I mean, that tell me that involved was through the principal coming through the pound, the drive-through pounding line, got involved with Courtney, uh, who's now Cliff, was in Cobarger, and just been able to make relationships there and build relationships. And then Connect Camp was kind of, I mean, so what when I came in October 2020, I just said, hey, what are we doing? And you know, I know it was COVID. And they're like, well, we're not really doing much. We may not even have VBS this year. And I had some friends that ran Kinect Camp and thought, well, we got to bring this in the community. You know, we got to be reaching people want connection, people want to be around each other. We've been isolated for a year, you know, in our houses. Um, and so that's how Connect Camp came about. So I it's Fallus and Craven, Fall Cravens really came first, and then it was Connect Camps, and then Falls was shortly. Like we've always done food bags for them, but when I was able to start doing food bags for them at the beginning of 2024 and creating that relationship with Amanda Glenn, which episode I think four or five, uh go back and listen to her, is FRC at Falls, but I think that's when it really started taking off with Fallows. And not because of me, it's just you know, we made relationships, opened some doors, and we're able to serve them in different ways.

SPEAKER_02 23:22

Yeah, and because I know, you know, on your podcast, you always invite people to sit with you and your family. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:29

I haven't had anybody take me up on that. No one took you up on that? No, I keep checking the fan mail for text, and I I've yet to yet to see anything. Maybe I need to put my phone number out there, but then I may get other calls that I may don't want. Like you're like my my car, my maybe my car title or something, or some kind of spam would come up. But but yeah, no one's ticked me up on that, and that's okay. You know, but I mean it it's it's a truthful thing. Like, I even tell my upper families like, you want to come or connect camp families, you want to come. Like, even if you don't want to reach out to me, here's my wife's number, and she she'd be she would love to meet up with you, and we'll show you the church, we'll show you where to go, we'll sit with you at church. Um so that wasn't just like a something we threw out, I threw out there. Like, that's a genuine invitation. Like, if people wanted to come to church, like if they someone would have sent me a fan mail or text, oh I'm there on on Sunday morning looking for them and sitting with them.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

I know in in high school, I always, you know, because I'm not a church goer, I will if I have time and all that stuff. Yeah, but high school, I would always go whenever there was potluck. Okay. Because that's when you actually meet the people instead of the city and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_03 24:31

Potluck at the church or uh not so much. I mean, we had a reception for us last week for us going to Lake Charles. Um I will say that I think potluck's probably more of a rural church deal. Like I've been to some rural churches growing up, and you had the the potluck. I mean, we have a now we have a picnic every year, but that's probably the closest we have to potluck. We go to Reed's and pay for the children's area for people to come and play with their kids, and then people bring sides and desserts and salads. So that's probably the closest we have to potlucks, but I do miss going to the church where like you know, it's the old smelly fellowship hall, and it's like the older ladies are bringing their banana pudding, and it's not just you know fake banana pudding, it's like real bananas and their pudding. Goodness. Yeah, so so yeah, so it's a little different, I think, but I also think it it changes on on church size, church settings, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 25:18

And I know you you talked about going on missions trips. Do you want to tell explain a little bit more on the Dominican Republic?

Dominican Republic Missions And Culture

SPEAKER_03 25:25

Yeah, so so did so I've been going to the DR for the last three years, the First Baptist Church at Owensboro. And yeah, three years. I almost think of four, but it's three. And I've never been international before I came here. And what happened is there's a guy, I probably should have recorded got a podcast with him, but he was an assistant over at Kentucky Weseland for men's basketball. And in 2018, went to a men's conference with First Baptist and felt led to do missions and somehow got connected with Go Ministries, which is based out of Louisville, but but their main, their their their technical like domestic office is is in Louisville, but that most of their stuff is in Dominican Republic. And yeah, that's been really cool. So he's down there now using sports and church plan to reach the Dominican for Christ. And Dominican culture is really cool. I actually really like it. They're crazy drivers, I don't like that, but but you know, the food's great. I've never had fresh food right off of a tree. I mean, like putting getting a mango off the tree and eating it right away, like will blow your mind. I think we have pineapple for every meal, we had chicken and rice for every meal. But but again, I think for me it was really cool because uh especially that first year, like I went down there and one of the first things we did was we went to their learning complex and we're we were teaching them English. Um but what I was trying to do was like, hey, like I'm gonna teach you English. I need you to teach me some like I know a little Spanish, give me some Spanish. And so it was really cool because there's there's kids from the community who are there to play baseball, uh they're taking English classes, and it's just really neat, I think, just to connect with the kids, even if they didn't quite understand me, or I was saying something real funny, you know, they were still really cool with me. We painted, we painted gates, and so down there, a petty petty theft is really high, and so a lot of them had those gated fences, and so we painted a lot of those gated fences. I think one of the cool things uh that's really stuck with me is we went to Los Cocos, which is just a village, a mountain village outside of Santiago, and there's a basketball court there that was in desperate need of cleaning up and repainting, and so we repainted it, and then at the end there, Brett was like, Hey Brett, what's your life verse? And I'm like, uh it's John 330, why? And he was like, We're gonna put that in the middle of the court, and so like it's really cool. I have a picture of us standing at the court where we painted Juan 330 in the middle of the court, which is he know he must decrease, and I'm I must decrease, I must decrease, he must increase, and that was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Uh well, I'd use that very lightly, yeah, yeah, yeah. But was there because I know uh you're probably a fan of Fast and Furious?

SPEAKER_03 27:49

Yeah, well, so so I I like the first one and the second one probably the best, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

Was there any classic cars in Dominican Republic?

SPEAKER_03 27:56

You know, so actually in Fast and Furious, a lot of that comes from like Cuba, like a Havana area, if I'm if I'm not mistaken. And Dominican, and then Dominican, I mean there's cars that you'll see that you won't see in the States, but as far as classic cars, I didn't I didn't see I didn't really see any of those. Did you really see any of those? You know, I see like a Tota like Helix, and then I'm like, I've never heard of that. It's a cool looking truck, and they're like, oh, they don't sell those in the States. I gotcha. But there's a lot, a lot of scooters, a lot of mopeds. I mean, that's probably the majority of the the traffic there. No one stops at stop signs or red lights, you know. It's it's it's great. It's other life, man. I'm just saying, it's on life. Everything's you know, kind of like a New Orleans, like just let the good times roll type deal.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

So you are big into sports, yeah. Maybe maybe not as deep as what you'd think you would be.

SPEAKER_03 28:43

Yeah, I'm sure there's somebody out there is probably a little bit more telling me that my my sports takes are trash.

SPEAKER_02 28:48

So but what what would you say is the best sport for a community like uh you found in the church?

SPEAKER_03 28:57

Okay, are you telling so I just want to make sure I'm clear on the same page with you? You mean like in the DR or you mean like just in church in general?

SPEAKER_02 29:03

Just in in general, like which team would feel more like a community of church members in the locker room. Do you think baseball, soccer, that's hard.

SPEAKER_03 29:17

You know, for me, I I that's a hard question. And the reason why I say that is because oh, it's a good question, but it's just hard. Is that I think I think you're reaching with different people with every sport, you know, like soccer. I may be pulling people in that are that more diverse, you know, especially around here, you're gonna have probably more refugees, uh, more Hispanic culture in there. And that's gonna that's gonna be that's just gonna be different than a baseball team that's full of white kids. I mean, I'm just being honest. Yeah, you know, basketball, we might have more African Americans that are playing. You know, so I I think man, I don't think there's really one sport that makes sense because you know, for another thing is like I'm gonna go to Late Charles, and one of the things I'm doing is thinking there's a lot of Muslims who come into our league for because of oil. So Lake Charles is the second world's largest oil producer behind Russia. Didn't know that, but they are. And so a lot of Middle Eastern families are starting to move in. And it's like, so why don't we try cricket? Well, I try to watch cricket with the other night on TV, and I don't know, it was like 245 to 9. They're like trying to hit blocks, they're trying to hit, I don't, I don't know what's going on. But in saying that, you know, like I think for that culture, like trick is probably the best, you know. So I think it just depends on like who you're trying to reach, and not necessarily who you're trying to reach, but just I just think each sport brings in a different culture, you know, and it's not a bad culture, it's just it's just different. So I don't know if there's really truly like one sport, you know, pickleballers get the older people, you know, and that that's great too. Or maybe having a game day or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 30:35

Yeah, because I know because pe there's there's people where they'll go play sports with their church friends, yeah, yeah. Or I know there's like a softball league for Travis County, or or football where they kind of get like that community outreach to to kind of help broaden people and maybe bring people in, but also hey, this is football. This is we don't have to do everything that we see on the and it's like there's a way you can have like that church-ness, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:06

Well, so obviously like for us it's basketball because we're landlocked over at First Baptist, so basketball is really our big thing. Um, we talked about maybe trying to do some lacrosse with a local family that I've I've been able to become good friends with, Pete McKendrick. He's on an episode, go check him out. But you know, I I've I mean I'm good friends with Josh Lambert across the street, OCC rep guy. And you know, he's like, man, if someone would just do flag football, that would take off. And I'm like, if I could just find some space, you know, and and you know you got Pleasant Grove and they got little sluggers, and that thing fills up super fast. Like they do well with little sluggers. So again, like I, you know, I I every I I don't know if they're just one that defit, you know, one fit to find all, but I think at first Baptist, basketball has been our our easiest sport to do because we have the facility to do it. We don't, you know, we don't have the land space for soccer or for flag football. But I think cross points about startup soccer, which is really cool. I mean they're brought I think they're gonna bring try to bring in some flag football too.

SPEAKER_02 31:56

So speaking about people, what did Owensboro teach you and vice versa?

What Makes Owensboro Home

SPEAKER_02 32:06

Yeah, I think for me it's taught me a lot.

SPEAKER_03 32:09

I I think for me, it is you you make you make your life what you make. This sounds this maybe it kind of goes off a little theologically, not maybe not super sound, but I guess what I'm trying to say is, you know, here is it's a smaller town, but there's been opportunities even with Apollo where like lately I've been running Blue Bridge sports, you know, like that was just something I just took on. Like, hey, there's not really anybody that's dedicated to just Apollo, and let let's let's establish that and that's made some really cool relationships. Um so I think for me, wanted to show me like, hey, you I mean obviously God's gonna dictate a lot of things, but you you you have some a little bit of creativity there in your yourself to write your script as well and some free will there, but um, which is a whole nother subject. But but yeah, I think I think you make what you want. I think number two is man, I heard a lot of things like as being an outsider, I would say, like someone who who came in who wasn't born and raised in Owensboro, you know, churches don't work together, they're very territorial. That was proven wrong in Connect Camp and just through some of the connections I made. Um I've got other people like, man, like you know Owensboro better than I do, and I was raised here. I mean, that's not a break on me. It's just I mean, I just put myself out there, you know. And I so I think for me, I think it really showed me is you know, you you I think at the end of the day, like you make a lot of well, you want you make the experience how you you can craft it yourself pretty much. And so you know, people who are like, well, there's nothing to do in Owensboro. I I I don't know, I would think I would disagree a little bit with that, but you know, again, like if everybody has different preferences and different things going on, I think at the end of the end of the day, like you can kind of dictate your own experience a little bit there.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

Yeah, and I mean, because I've I've heard several people say there's nothing to do, but uh at the same time say, Are you a hiker? There's a couple trails.

SPEAKER_03 33:52

Yeah, you go Jeremy Good Close up in Hollowsville.

SPEAKER_02 33:54

If you like sports, there's what pickleball is picking up.

SPEAKER_03 33:57

Yeah, pickball is picking up, and I mean you got a lot of high school, I mean, these these high school programs are pretty good. Like, I'm not even talking about Apollo, like DC, the girls are second in state in softball. Uh Owensboro Catholics top ten in baseball. You know, football, you know, Owensboro just won state in football. Uh Apollo volleyball has gone to Elite Eight. And so even if you're like so for this, I'm just saying for the sports person, we don't have a professional team or anything, but I mean I think our high school, our high school athletics are pretty stinking good.

SPEAKER_02 34:24

And I mean, even just getting involved, there's I mean, you can easily find something to do. Oh, yeah, yeah. And now that we have that indoor amusement part. Oh, which I yeah, I went with the girls the last weekend. That was pretty fun. And so, you know, things things are slowly getting to the big city life, uh, to where there's more things to do than you realize you just gotta take the first step outside your door and yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:52

I think for me, like the other big thing is like don't wait until they go out of business to support them, you know. Like, you know, that that the problem is the reason why they're gonna have business is no one's really supporting them, you know. And so, you know, we've lost laser tag and a few other places around here like Ozone, and people are so mad about it. And I'm like, but we but we but nobody was going like the reason why I closed down because they weren't making any money, like they have to be able to live, and so yeah. But but I also think too, like, again, I think Owens Bros has also shown me over and over again, like everything's about relationships, you know, like and it's not for anything for me to get out of, but that's been my whole experience. Like, like we're not I'm not leaving Owensboro because we didn't like Owensboro, you know, like we love we love the town, we love everything about it, and and we've had some really good relationships. And I think I think that's another thing that Owensboro should show me is that you know, again, you make what you want to make your experience, but I think relationships have been a big part of that.

SPEAKER_02 35:41

If you had the power one day, what would you bring to Owensboro? What would I bring? Man, like anything.

SPEAKER_03 35:50

If you could just snap your finger, and what do you think would I don't know, like so for I don't know like for me, it's like it'd be really cool if we had like a laser river that went around the entire town and set the green like next to the greenway. I mean that's kind of weird. I don't know. You know or even just around the the park, or just around the park, that'd be a lot simpler. I don't uh man, I don't know. I mean I I think like personally, like I think trying to and I know like I've worked with the TBL with the Thoroughbreds. I know they've tried to do the River Dogs at Chautauqua Park for this like a wooden bat league. But I think like for me, I think it'd be cool. Like if I could bring something, it'd probably be like uh either a semi-pro or pro sports team. Okay, and one that like would be followed and like actually invested in, and not just hey, we're taking over Chautauqua Park, and you know, nothing on the River Dogs, but like I just I went to one game and just I wasn't feeling it. And then thoroughbreds, like I mean, Trish tried. I mean, I'll I'm not just being biased here, but the owner of the organization tried. It's just you know, I think everybody we're a very youth heavy sports town. Um, and I'm not sure how to really build that culture to make a team really take off, and that would be the biggest struggle, I think. But I think something like bring uh you know, I think the baseball bring baseball back idea that's been popping up, I think that's a really cool idea. But again, it comes down to experience. So like if the port the park is gonna be really basic and boring and your product's semi is so-so, like no one's gonna come to it.

SPEAKER_02 37:13

Yeah, and I mean like any sports team, you also don't want to have the price be so high to where you're not gonna have that attendance, you're not gonna bring in the people, but on the other side, recreational besides the lazy river. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:27

Yeah, no, I was you said recreational.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:30

You know, I think you know, one of the things that I thought was cool is we've been over to Evansville and I took my girls to Wesselman Woods. I mean, it's a nature playscape, and so it's it's tree houses and and logs and rocks and ropes, and it's more of a natural play setting, a creek they can play in. I think something like that would be really cool. Just I again, we have Smothers Great Park. We have Legion, probably our our family's favorite park. You know, we have the we have parks, uh, but as far as recreational, I I don't know, maybe I'm just being a dad there, but some kind of nature playscape would be really cool. Like outwoods, uh, yeah, something like outwoods. Yeah, but like yeah, like you know, maybe at Smothers, like maybe it would have been cool to put like a river that hear me out, a smaller river, river replica that ran through the park, you know, for the kids to play in or something like that that leads down to the splash pad or something, you know, because you're right next to a hot river. I mean, so just something like that where it's like hey, hey, how can we make this? I I'm a very big on an immersion experience. So, like, how do we how do we bring people and make memories if that makes sense?

SPEAKER_02 38:31

Yeah, and I mean the the amusement park, you know, they they're only on phase one of their stuff. So yeah, so who knows what it could look like. Who knows? Maybe a lazy river is in their works.

SPEAKER_03 38:41

Yeah, I don't I don't know the owners. I don't I don't know. I know some guys that work there. Uh we like so we got to go the last weekend. The go-karts were fun, they're electric, but they were fun, and the dark rod was pretty cool too.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

So well, so what because you've been to Disney World, you've been to Holiday World, yeah, you've gone to these a lot of amusement parks.

SPEAKER_01 39:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

Which which one stood out the most to be I have to keep going back?

SPEAKER_03 39:09

Man, I hate to be biased here. I'm gonna say local, it's gonna be Holly World. The voyage is hands down my favorite coaster. I I love coasters. I will literally go to places just to ride coasters. Like we've been to King's Island. When I've gone to like San Antonio, we've gone to six try to ride some of the coasters there. And so I think for me, like the voyage is just it's unbelievable. I get it, people might not like Holly Road because it's middle of nowhere, or there's not enough metal coasters or steel coasters. And Thunderbird's great. I love Thunderbird, but I have to ride on the voyage about 10 times, Thunderbird's a little boring. I think at least I think it's just too smooth. But yeah, I think High Roll does great. And I would say I've gone to other other parks like King's Island in Cincinnati, and you know, when you can have when you have free drinks and free sunscreen and free parking, and the park looks clean, it's nice, and then you go to another park where it's not like that. I think that's a that shows you like how valuable and how much I think we probably take advantage of because we just don't realize it. We haven't been to many different parks, but Howdy Road, one of the one of the cleanest and best parks, I think. And even Rodops, like I don't really have to really worry too much about the rides being on. I think we went one day where everything but the Thunderbird was down and they gave us tickets. Or I think we're pet piece of season pass holders at that point, but you know, they're giving ticks out tickets out. Hey, come down. It wasn't even a weather problem, it was just a mechanical issue. Hey, come back, we're gonna give you a ticket for another day. And a lot of parks aren't doing that, yeah. So I think for me, like experience-wise, like I again, middle nowhere, we're always watching out for deer room and come home, probably hit almost in a few, but but park experience wise and op ride ops, and it they're top notch.

SPEAKER_02 40:42

Speaking of deer and almost hitting them, yeah, being somewhat nicknamed the honeymoon hulk, uh, where you were traveling to Disney World on your honeymoon, yeah, flat tire, trying trying to change it. Yeah, things didn't go according to plan. Car smacks down into the ground, you hulked it up, your young bride watching in amazement. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:09

You know, any other stories like that that you know the the tire one is kind of bittersweet because it's a great memory to maybe laugh about, but it in the moment it was not fun. We went so with the tires, so this is a really inside short story. Uh the tire tread was really low before we went down. We drove. And I tried to tell her stepdad, hey, like these tires are are pretty bald. Oh, they're okay, they're okay. And so we were a couple days in, and of course the tires tire blows. And so we go to Midas, right? So Midas, a good touch, whatever, put our tires on, and we're maybe three miles down the road on our way to Magic Kingdom, and it blows again. And and and stupid me, did just this it I didn't do this on purpose to have an in-grain memory in my wife's head of me being the Hulk and how awesome that was, I guess. But you know, like I put the jack up on the car, I took the tire off, and then I'm like, I'm just gonna put the tire back on with the jack on. That wasn't the best decision, and that's that's what happened. The jack fell off. Uh, we're on side road in in Florida on the highway. Um, and I I don't know. I guess in the moment where Andrew Lin's going, you can do a lot of things, but yeah, I was able to lift the car up while she put the jack on. I was a Nissan Versa. But anyway, I I mean we've hit a deer before coming down. We lived in Tennessee, going through some fog. That that was a really that honestly was not a good moment. But yeah, I I don't know. I don't I don't I don't know where I was going with that. But yeah, that's that's kind of the story there. Any any other honeymoon Hulk stories on the city? No, I mean the other Hulk the other other Hulk stories went the Universal and we the Hulk line was too long, so we didn't get the chance to ride that coaster. But but no, like no other no other Hulk. I mean I did serve in Orlando for summer and summer missions. I worked at a go-kart track, and they nicknamed me a Soli because I'm I'm big and hairy. So that might be the closest thing I got. And being married for quite a 13 years on June 8th.

SPEAKER_02 43:07

So being married and then your wife getting her master's degree. How did that make you feel that she finally accomplished what she really wanted to do?

SPEAKER_03 43:16

Yeah, I yeah, so a little just a little backstory there is she had an opportunity, she wanted to she always wanted to be a teacher, she was talked out of it, wound up doing psychology and business and undergrad, which I'm not really sure what you do with those two degrees, and she didn't know what to do either. Uh she was like, I don't want to listen to people's problems, I have enough of my own. And so she went to do counseling. I mean, so she's been talking about wanting to do teaching probably for like the last 10 years, probably since we've been married or whatever. And so for for her to go to school as an assistant, really fall in love with it and and see her fall in love with the kids at Cravins. And there's a couple kids on the list of hey, if something happens to them, we're we're bringing we're gonna foster or adopt them, um, which we almost had somebody in the spring because of because of issues, some issues, but getting just getting to see her walk that was really cool, you know. She put a lot of, it was a lot, it was hard. It was a lot of work for her between being a new teacher and doing master's work. And it was it was hard. So I'm super proud of her for that. Like it was, it was really cool. We we had we found we got a couple of confetti cannons of bloom in the house when she walked in and realized that uh that was about a year and a half ago, and we're still finding confetti in the house. So I think when I find that confetti, it's just a cool reminder of like, hey, like Brittany, Brittany got her master's, you know, she's done some big girl stuff, and she's super talented. She'll hate me saying this, but like I think she's gonna do great at leadership someday, uh, in a sense of not just in the classroom, but maybe in an administrative role. Um she really she cares about her kids, cares about her co-coworkers a lot, and she's she does great what she does.

SPEAKER_02 44:40

So all right. Let's let's come back to Owensboro. Okay, yeah. What do you say makes Owensboro Owensboro?

SPEAKER_03 44:49

Man, so I would say one, like the first thing that comes to my mind is that it's a it's a big small town. So like it has all this stuff that you need. You can run the target at eight o'clock at night, but it's still you can run a car target at eight o'clock at night, there's not a lot of traffic out. It's a it's a so I would say it's definitely like a big smaller town, but I think for me, it's definitely the people. Uh and it's not like I try not to make that like a cop-out answer, you know, but I really think like for me, it's just been really cool hearing stories where you know, I've been able to be, and and really it's an opportunity to film my lab, it's been really cool, and I've I appreciate every moment of it. I mean, I've been able to be a character coach for Apollo football for the last five seasons, and so even just beginning to meet those kids and hearing their stories and coaches and hearing their stories, you know. I I think for me, Owensboro one is is a big small town, but just a town that supports and loves each other. And I know there's differences, and you know, there may be some, hey, he was born here, whatever the case may be, some maybe some favoritism at time. But I think for the most part, like the people is what make Owensboro a great place to raise the family and and really have friends.

SPEAKER_02 45:50

So having all that that makes Owensboro a little bit more than all the other communities that you've been into.

SPEAKER_03 45:57

I would say so. I mean, like Norman made it called home. Yeah, New Orleans is probably the the I mean, I love we loved Oklahoma City in a van. My former boss listened to this, love you, Van. But I and I love the friends that we had in Oklahoma City, but I would probably say, yeah, this has probably been the one that's felt most like um.

SPEAKER_02 46:13

What would you say is misunderstood about this town? Besides some people may say it's too small, some people say it's big and all that stuff, and people saying that there's not a lot of stuff to do, but as we proved, there's quite a bit of stuff to do.

SPEAKER_03 46:28

Yeah, there's quite a bit of stuff to do. I think the most misunderstood thing, man. You know, so I'll say this. When when I was called by the church and said, hey, we we're interested in getting a resume from you, I didn't know where Owensboro was. Uh like they're like, hey, we're in Owensboro, Kentucky, and I'm like, where's that? They're like, oh, we're like an hour from Evansville, and I was like, I don't know what Evansville is. Yeah. And you're like, we're like, you know where Bulling Green is? I'm like, yeah, I know where Bulling Green is. Like, we're like an hour northwest of Bulling Green. I'm like, okay. And so I think misunderstood is if people just don't know much about Owensboro and like the richness that it has. And I don't I don't think it's on anyone particular. I just think like when you when unless you're like here regionally or locally, you don't understand the the true like richness, like town camaraderie, like just the history, just the relationships here, like you don't realize that until you're here. And I don't know if that puts Owensboro as like a we don't know anything about Owensboro, so it must be like a podunk small town in Kentucky that it's just another small town in USA when real realistically it's not. So I think that's probably the most misunderstood.

SPEAKER_02 47:38

What would you what will you miss the most about this town besides Barbecue Fest, Ron?

Podcast Lessons And Dream Guests

SPEAKER_02 47:45

Yeah, yeah, it's you Tyler.

SPEAKER_03 47:46

No, I I mean I'll miss that hanging out with you and and come over here and talking with you. I you know, for me, like there's I it comes down to relationships. Like I'm gonna miss being at Apollo on the football field during the season, talking to those guys. I'm gonna miss, like, I had a chance to be the public announcer for the baseball team this year. Like that was a lot of fun. I'm gonna probably miss that. You know, I'll miss the friendships I have, like all the guys who have worked for me over the years, like have really good relationships with them. And now they're uh having families of their own and and getting big boy jobs. And and I so I think like for me, like you know, social media is great because you can keep up with people. I I may not verbally reach out and talk to people as much, but it'll be on my news feed. I I kind of you know, I try to keep up with people. I mean, so I I think for me it's it's gonna be more of you know, and I hate to keep saying this, but just the relationships, you know, like like uh obviously you don't know like you gotta start over. I mean you're a new town, you don't know any I know two people, I know three uh four people down there, and I only knew two before I went down there, and I didn't know they were down there until I went down there. But yeah, I think I think for me it's like I'm gonna miss the people of Elmensboro, you know, the relationships like again, Apollo, Faust, Cravens, you know, the gym. I've developed a lot of friendships in the gym just from our regulars, you know, and so I think that's probably the thing I'll miss the most.

SPEAKER_02 49:04

Who or what profession do you wish was on your podcast that you didn't get a chance to get to?

SPEAKER_03 49:10

Oh, that's a good question. Uh, you know, I have a friend named Jeremy Schifflet. He's the uh fish guy. He works for uh the wildlife biology department, does like the nine counties or whatever, but maybe even more than that, does a bunch of lakes. I mean, there's a lot of cool things that I just didn't know happened in the fish world. And I kind of wish I was able to get him on. Which, you know, Jeremy, if you're listening to this, nothing against you. Uh, I just thought that'd be a cool one to talk about. You know, there's there's lots of names I put out there, like, you know, music studios. I would have liked to maybe sit down in the end and how that came about, you know, dancing, you know, and living out your dream and seeing others live out their dream of kind of what you had growing up. Yeah, I don't, you know, I don't know. I mean, what I mean, maybe not not to get political or anything, but maybe like a city commissioner or a city planner, and be like, hey, like I know that you're titled, but what do you do? You know, like I hate to say that, but like, you know, what do what do you do? Like, what what are some of the the daily things that you go through that people don't realize you do? And all we know is that it's your name and your title, you know? And so I think maybe something like that. I I don't know. Maybe a school administrator. And I think sometimes I really wanted my friend Brock to come on because his wife uh now can now is the principal, she was assistant, now the principal at Metallands, Kendall Quentin, Brock. I really wanted to get that perspective of what it was like to be married to an admin to at the school. Um, because it is stressful, it's a lot. Hours don't make sense of hours worked, and there's a lot of stuff that you know you gotta watch what comes home, what is set in front of the kid, all that stuff. So maybe that uh you know, Rex Whiteman coming on, or not Rex Whiteman, I know Rex Whiteman, uh but Rex Chapman, maybe I don't know. But but I I think for the most part, like I I think I've been able to talk to a lot of people that I just never thought I would be talking to. And I don't know if there's really like a uh strictly like a one one person fits all kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02 51:01

With uh many podcasts slowly popping up and other people discussing about starting a podcast, what lessons have you learned that you would want to pass on to them so they don't have that struggle that you started off on the first first?

SPEAKER_03 51:17

Yeah, yeah. I would say one, like keep going, don't be perfect. So like keep going, like you may get 10 episodes in and you have four downloads, you're thinking, what am I doing? Right? I mean, there's a reason why you started the podcast. There is, and and I don't know what that reason may be, but there's always a reason why a podcast is started. There's always a reason why you do your investment in it or something, right? Like, so yours is the bluegrass suburban dessert bar. Like there's a re like you obviously enjoy baking and being creative, like serving the community, so therefore you invest in it, right? And I think that's the other thing. It's like if you're gonna make a podcast, you're obviously doing it for a reason. And so like keep keep going. Two, you don't need all the most expensive stuff. You know, just get a mic, guess get, you know, there's so much, there's so I will say, like, there's so much AI stuff out there now where like not that it will write the script for you, although I'm sure it could, but but it will edit for you and and piece it together and make it sound good like good quality. And I would say too, I would say the other thing is really just you know, you get just start it. I think for me, like I wish I would have started five years ago and I didn't, you know. So I think if you're sitting here thinking, man, I want to start a podcast on youth soccer, whatever, well, do it. You know, like you're the only one thinking of that right now. And there may be some other podcasts out there, but but do it. You know, you don't know until you start it.

SPEAKER_02 52:37

So almost closing a chapter on this book of Owensboro. Yeah. Putting on pause because you never know. Yeah, yeah, you never know. Could be brought back for chapter two. Yeah. Could be you know, working on a sequel for uh Louisiana. Yeah. Why Lake Charles?

Why Lake Charles And Biggest Fears

SPEAKER_03 52:59

Did what brought what made them reach out to you or you Yeah, so I I'll just be I'll just tell you the the the brand unfiltered version, you know, we were down in Memphis visiting Brittany's family, that's where she's from, and I got a text around Christmas from a 337 number. I didn't know where what 337 was, and they said, Hey, we're we're interested in talking to you about a potential job opportunity in Lake Charles. And I said, I'm not interested. And they said, Well, we got your name from a few friends of mine from seminary that are not even interconnected, which is weird. Um, and then Upper Sports apparently suggested my name. And so I said, Well, I'm just being honest, my sister, and which I'm gonna do a podcast episode, so I'll record it here this weekend, but you'll hear before this podcast. My sister has stage four breast cancer, metesthetic breast cancer, and so we're two and a half hours away. So I'm like, my big thing was like, hey, like Jesus says in in the gospel is like let the dead bury the dead when it comes to following him. That is a that is really easy to say. That is extra extraordinarily so much harder to follow when you're in those shoes. And I'm not saying my sister's dead or she's dying, but but no one's guaranteed the next day. And I love my sister dearly, and so the fact that like we're uh two and a half hours, we can go down any weekend we want, kind of drive to now you're nine hours away, nine and a half hours away, that's been that's been hard to think through, you know. And and I was just honest with them, like, hey, like I'll be honest with you, like relationships number two, my sister, you know, like and so so we we had talked just briefly. I didn't pursue anything. They had she reached out to me about two weeks later and said, Hey, can we do a zoom meeting? And at this point, Brittany's like, I don't care, I'm not leaving, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, Well, I'm not saying I'm leaving either, but but let's just take this this Zoom call. I mean, so we took the Zoom call and he ran out of his 40 free minutes. And while we're waiting in front of a link, my wife looked at me and she said, This is this is perfect for you. And so again, so we finished the zoom call, didn't pursue it. About a week and a half later, Brittany's like, Hey, when are we going down to visit Late Charles? I was like, I thought you didn't want to leave Owensboro, you know, and and at the same time, about the same time, about two days later, Ryan reached out, he'd be my supervisor down there, and said, Hey, like, we we'd like to have you come down for a visit. And so I got upward cover for the day, went down around Valentine's Day, and just they're like, What do you think about our facility? And it's it's really big. You look it up Trinity Baptist Church, the Trinity Center, I'm like, I'm really overwhelmed. And they're like, Why? And I'm like, I've never seen a facility connect to a church this big, nor would I would ever think that somebody would entrust me to run it. And so I I really did like honest. I mean, I was just real honest with them, like this my like this is what's going on with bro, this is what's going on with my sister. Like, you really want me to run your facility, you know? And yeah, so that happened, and then again, I didn't pursue it. They reached out again and said, Hey, we'd like to do a formal interview with you. And then just there's some doors that close, and I'm gonna I won't get into what happened, but there were just some things that happened, and uh it was just pretty obvious that God's like, all right, like it's just it's just I'm closing the door here for you, you know, in the world, and we're gonna go down LA Charles. So my you know, my girls there, they're super excited. I thought they'd be terrified. And they're sad too, but for leave friends, but they were asking me, bruh, you know, when you're gonna accept the job. I'm like, I don't know. Like you guys are more excited than I.

SPEAKER_02 56:20

Yeah, and what's nice is when you have good friends, good connections, now it's like, hey, come down for vacation. Yeah, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_03 56:30

Maybe let's come down after Eastern and eat some crawfish. You know, we go to the drive-thru and get a bag of crawfish and do a bowl. Let's do it. And a lot of people don't know.

SPEAKER_02 56:39

You're only two hours away from New Orleans, three hours from Houston.

SPEAKER_03 56:42

Oh, actually, no, it's actually three from New Orleans and two from Houston.

SPEAKER_02 56:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 56:46

But but it it's it's yeah, it's it's the little weekend trip, which you know. Well, we're like an hour, we'd be an hour and ten minutes from Cajun country, Lafayette, you know, like the swamp and and Cajun culture.

SPEAKER_02 56:57

Yeah, so I mean, if you ever needed a place to stay, I'm guessing there's a lot of things.

SPEAKER_03 57:01

Yeah, so I found out through going down there, you know, Late Charles and Lafayette both had regional airports. You could fly into Houston and we'll come pick you up. Or's maybe a little further, but Sora, he's the athletic trainer at Palo, he's he's Japanese, and me and him become good friends. And I'm like, you should come down. He's like, I love the Saints, and I'm like, let's do it. Like, come on down, we'll go to a Saints game on one Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 57:21

So yeah, so with all your connections, you can you can always come back up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:28

We want to come back up. We want to come back up and see people again. We made some really good relationships. We want to see people. Um, I definitely want to see what the new ride's gonna be at Hotter Road, you know. It's a little selfish, but uh, but definitely we definitely want to come up, like for sure. Like Brittany's best friends here. The girls have really good friends here. I have good friends here, like we definitely want to you know try to come up every once in a while and see everybody.

SPEAKER_02 57:48

Yeah, and vice versa, they can always come down. You can get show people how to do a crawfish.

SPEAKER_03 57:54

Yeah, I know. I don't know how to do a bowl yet, but I can eat a crawfish.

SPEAKER_02 57:58

We lived in Orlanch for a little bit, so oh, boils are easy, you just dump everything and then cook it and then pull it out. But seasoning is important, yeah, yeah, okay. So, what scares you the most of this transition besides maybe a gator walking through your backyard?

SPEAKER_03 58:16

Yeah, so actually we'll be three houses down from a bayou. So that's actually pretty realistic. I told her our little Chiwe that she'll she'll maybe a sausage for the alligators and she's not careful, but the girl isn't it's funny. But I think what scares me the most, you know, and I'll and I'll I'll be honest with you, like this. I was honest with with the church, with Trinity in general. I'm like, the fact that you would even trust me with this, like, and I'm not saying I'm a terrible, I'm not trying to have false humility or anything, like, but the fact that you would trust me with 18th staff and like the size of your facility and your leagues that run four to five hundred kids, you know, to me it was just mind-blowing. And and I think that's still a little scary. Like, I have some cool ideas that I've been thinking through, but I I think like, do I go like what do I go there and within a month they're like, this is not the guy we thought we hired, you know? And and these are just and I'm just being honest, these are Brad fears. You know, is it is it, you know, whatever the case may be? And then I'm not saying it won't work out. I I'm I'm excited, like I said, I I love the direction they're going as a church, but they're just the fears I've naturally been putting in my head of, you know, do I go down there and screw up or and when I say screw up, like just don't do what they envisioned me doing or or whatever the case may be. So I I think that's probably the biggest fear I have.

SPEAKER_02 59:29

Do you think you'd be as scared as your parents when with as you when you were a little kid where you ran away from the amusement part with your grandpa going to the bathroom? Do you think you'd be that scared if you're if your daughters ran down and wanted to play in the bayou with the games and all that stuff? Yeah. Like, is that one thing that you also are scared of?

SPEAKER_03 59:53

You know, I I'm not. I'm not saying those things can't happen. I would say Brittany would be more guarded on that kind of stuff. You know, for me, I'm like, let's go to the bayou and play around and see if we can get a getter to come to the surface. So yeah, so we'll see how it goes. But I mean, like, we were when we were down there to sprint break, uh, we went through like this little like drive-thru loop through a swamp that is good for get her get her sightings, and it was at dusk, and I got out at one point to try to get on top of the car. My um Evie, my oldest, is like, Daddy, get in the car, you're gonna eat my gator. I'm like, You're fine, there's nothing out here, you know. So I'm probably a little bit more on the riskier side on those kind of things. But but yeah, I don't know, you reached out to you, but I did get lost at the Rony Park in Alamtown, Pennsylvania when I was, I don't know, probably three or four. And you just had to go to the bathroom. Yeah, I had to go to the bathroom, and it sounds like something you'd probably learn from my mom if you reached out to her, maybe. But yeah, I got lost and they found me that luckily.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:43

But so what what's going to excite you for being down there besides having probably one of the freshest seafood sources?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:51

Yeah, so yeah, the seafood's gonna be amazing. I mean, obviously, I love food. You can look at me and tell me I see that I can love food. Um, so I'm looking forward to that, obviously. But I think for me, like it's just the opportunity that they the church sees the rec center as the front door. And what I mean by that is they see all these people coming onto the church property and they want to be intentional and reach them. I think that that's exciting. I think the other thing too is like I have an opportunity to to launch their podcast network, they're they're interested in launching one, and that's one of the other roles I have on down there. I mean, so you know, I I think that'd be cool to allow me to be creative and stuff like that. So I think that that's probably what excites me the most is you know, I obviously there's there's boundaries, there's there's restrictions and all, but like to me right now it feels like the sky is kind of the limit. And I think for someone who's a dreamer like me, that that makes it pretty exciting.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:42

Uh no, because I've only been to Louisiana a few times. What's what's one restaurant that you're really excited to try down there?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:51

Oh man, uh well, I haven't been to Lake Charles a whole lot, only twice in my life in the last six months. Is it is it gonna be like you're excited for the freshest seafood whenever you want? I think it's I think it's the fact that like we're gonna be able to eat crawfish again, and it's fresh. It's not something they got frozen Nut Sam's or they ordered in, uh, which I know those things technically can be still considered fresh. Go to Ben Together's episode, he talks about that. But but to me, like crawfish season, crawfish bulls, like so I don't know about a restaurant, but I mean that I mean getting crawfish at Tuffe, which is really weird to say this out loud, but it's crawfish and like their brains mixed together, it's sounds disgusting, it's actually really good. But anyway, so that's I I would say crawfish. I mean, there's a lot of East Texas built into it because you're so close to Texas, about 20 minutes. And so, like, we'll have like legit brisket and some other stuff that I'll probably be excited about, you know, get my hands on. There's there's gator, gator's good. I mean, it's a little greasy for the most part, but tastes like chicken, it really does. I know people say that a lot, but gator's good.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:55

So also all that.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:58

If there was a pizza's place with an arcade, are you running to the pinball machine and leaving your family out front? Uh maybe.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:07

I don't know. I mean, you know, I I like doing I like I said I said it earlier in the podcast. Like, I like experiences. Uh, I don't know if I leave them, but yeah, I definitely would check it out. It'd be fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:18

So what what type of stories are you hoping to be down there that you'll discover and some stories that you might want to slowly approach it?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:34

Yeah, so you know, I mean, like I said before, everybody has a story. I mean, I think you're gonna find similar stories maybe up here that you would in Late Charles. And and I get it, culture's different, environment's different. So I I think for me, you know, I I I like the Cajun swampy bayou feel culture. And so I think for me, like some of the stories that I I think would be kind of cool to catch is maybe uh a grandparent that even still speaks pre-roll French, you know, and was willing to come on and talk about just the evolution, like really a lot of people don't know this, but before 1940, the south of I-10 in Louisiana was all Cajun country, and they spoke Cajun French, they didn't speak English. And so really that didn't start happening until post-World War II. I mean, so you know, I think for me, like just leaning into those stories, like I think if you're not from there, you just you think of you know, maybe Princess and the Frog from Disney or or maybe uh whatever swamp thing that you can think of, you know, that's what you think of as a swamp, you know. And I and you know, I think there's a lot of cool stories of resilience, you know, and hurry, you know, they've had two hurricanes in 2020 back to back. You know, so I think some of that, like not that I'm doing it for the clicks, but I think those would be some of the interesting stories I I like to hear. Of hey, how'd you get through this? How'd you start over? You know, maybe what was it like you know when you were a kid and people started talking English for the first time, you know. Like I I think that would just be some really cool stories.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:58

Would you ever talk to someone who does voodoo and get the the misconceptions out of the way of what people think voodoo actually is.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:09

Yeah, as long as they don't start poking a dog that looks like me while I'm talking to him. Again, I I think I think what is really cool, and I think we miss this a lot in our in our culture today, is that like we just need to like it'd be it's so nice to like sit down and just talk to somebody and see where they're coming from, see you know, so yeah, like if there was somebody who did voodoo and are like, hey, we want to talk about voodoo, you know, I will say that I'm not gonna solicit to what they believe in. I'm not gonna put an ad out there, like, hey, go to the voodoo healing center down the street, you know. You know, I'm just being honest. But but if they want to sit down and have a conversation, like, yeah, like what led you to being a voodoo priest, you know, what you know, what you know, I I it I like to learn. Like I like to read books, I like to listen to podcasts, I like to talk to people. And so for me, like it it comes down to like it gives me an opportunity to learn a little bit more. That I didn't know before.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:01

If if someone did want to make moonshine, would you try it?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:09

You know, there there's a thing, you know, I'll just be honest, 139, 23 says become all things to all people. So you ain't wins on the Christ. One of my favorite verses that I try to live by. I mean, I think a lot of it just comes down to you know, especially if the church is sponsoring it. Not that and hear me out like I don't drink moonshine, but you know, it's like one of those things where it's like you're kind of battling it of like you you don't want you want to be respectful, you know, you you want to be respectful and and all that stuff, but it's just like where's the line that I draw as uh someone who's connected to the church and you know, everybody has different like for example, I'll just throw this out here like Brittany's dad is an alcoholic and she'll tell you that. Um and so for us, we just we just we stay away from alcohol. And that's just because we've seen the negative effects of it. I mean, so I I think I think we'd just be nervous of like what if somebody's listening to it and may and I don't know, I've never I've never drank, so I don't know what my tolerance would or could be, and where am I promoting it right now and just throw it out there? But yeah, no, it's it's just like you know, if someone came, yeah, someone came and like, yeah, like give it a try. Yeah, like I don't I don't I wouldn't want to become a summon block either, you know, in a sense of like what is and I it sounds terrible, but like what if somebody else drinks it and you know, they're next thing you know they get addicted to it, you know. And uh and not that I would ever know that, but I just don't want to be that person who puts those people in those situations. Yeah. I've seen I've seen good and evil. Like, you know, I have a friend, me and my friend do a lot of AI stuff, and we were talking about how you know a lot of things comes down to the the the the the hands of the beholder, right? So like things are meant for good or for not for necessarily evil, but it's up to the people who do what they want to do with it who could make it become for evil or bad. So yeah, but so you'll just politely decline, say I think I would, yeah, and nothing on them, but I I think I would just again I don't I I don't drink, you know, and I guess I've seen negative stuff, but I also I just don't want to compromise my relationship or anything like that with the with the church or with people around me, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:02

Yeah. So yeah, don't wanna because there there's a quote if you bend for one thing, you'll bend for all.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:09

Yeah, yeah. And I know and I know there's missionaries that will go over to Europe and you know they drink beer like they drink, they drink sweet tea here in the south, right? And so and it's rude if you decline it. You know, so it's just like you know, it's just one of those things where it's like I think it's just hard. I think I you know, I think a lot of times we as people just want to have these easy answers. And a lot of hundred I mean, I don't know, I've maybe I'm just wrong, but I've learned there's just not sometimes like you know there's never right answer, yeah, yeah. Like you're gonna offend somebody or you're gonna do something wrong, or you might do something right. I mean, you know, so yeah, so I I think a lot of it just be depends on like the circumstance and and from different perspectives as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:44

So yeah, and like like we said, closing the chapter on all things Owensboro. Yeah, could return, could not. You never know. What do you hope people will remember about all things Owensboro?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:58

Yeah, so I think for me I really do hope, like one of my favorite things I get to do is this podcast, and I love editing it, and I love trying to get it out there, and I do spend a lot of time on you know transcribing episodes and trying to pull some onliners out for the intros, and there's a lot of work that goes into it, but I I just hope that they listen to it and just think, man, like Brad really was just listening and talking to people, like there was no agenda there. Like, I I tell people guests all the time, like, I'm not gonna pull something out left field, I'm not trying to become controversial. Like, like I'm really just trying to have a conversation with you. And if there's any questions you don't want to answer, we don't have to answer them. If there's questions I didn't ask that you would like to answer, you know, let's do it. So I I would hope they listen to this and think it's it's been fun listening to it, and and who knows, like even even on the spiritual side of things, like I love to hear it'd be really cool to hear somebody who maybe listens to a podcast or someone who doesn't go to church and listens to a podcast that has the gospel clearly presented in it, you know, and maybe you know has a different outlook on church or even Kingdom of Christ. That'd be really cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:06

And if someone uh younger in church said, Hey Brad, I would like to pick up the mic and continue all things on.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:14

Like I'd I'd be there to help, like, I'd give you all this stuff and I'd love to see this, you know. Like if this took went on, even though this was somebody else, do it. You know, like I again, I think it goes back to like the whole point of this podcast is to share stories. I mean, so if somebody came to me and said, Hey, let's let's continue all things owns, bro. What do you need from me? I mean, seriously, what do you need from me? Like, is it editing experience? Is it what do you? I mean, I'll literally edit it on a garage band. You know, like I sit down with you and talk to you through it and and let you just take full control of it, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:45

So yeah, all right. So let's get can we spill little details?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:50

Uh sure we can on that, or is it still premature on we we can maybe go in? I don't know. I mean, we we talk about what's in the works if you want. Yeah, let's let's talk about yeah.

Whispers On The Bayou And Farewell

SPEAKER_03 1:11:00

So so one of the cool things is when I went down to Lake Charles, Trinity Baptist was saying, hey, like we love what you're doing with all things Owensboro. Um we want to get out in the community in a non-churchy kind of way. And we love that you're meeting with people where they are, where they're at, and hearing their stories. And so it'll it'll this in a in the same kind of sense will continue. Um, I don't know if it will be a month break, it will be six months. I don't I don't know that yet. I don't know timeline yet. We have been talking on Facebook, me and you, and I've sent you the trailer for uh Whispers on the Bayou, which I'm actually really proud of. I thought it came out really well. I've actually shown it off to a lot of people, but but yeah, so the the point of it, the point moving forward is uh maybe starting season two, you're calling it Whispers on the Bayou. But not to for it to be scary or anything like that, but really just stories of people in that area, southwest Louisiana, you know, whether they're growing up in the middle of a swamp or or they're working on their oil rigs or wherever the case may be, just hearing stories out. So, like I said, it we'll get it out there at some point. Bayou, uh Whispers on the Bayou. Uh that's that's right now their prototype name. Probably gonna stick with it. We'll see. It may change. But yeah, so we'll see how it goes. There's a lot, I have a lot of cool ideas. Again, I'm a dreamer, but we'll we'll see how that goes. But yeah, so there may be an opportunity for you to it may not be Owens for old people, but it'll be a story, and hopefully you'll still continue to come on. I know looking at stats, we got people we have a following in Singapore, which I don't know how that happened, but uh, you know, if you're listening to Sampour, uh thanks for listening to us. We love you guys out there. You guys, for whatever reason, listen to our podcast, and we appreciate it. So, you know, I I think there's opportunities for maybe growth in a sense of you know, we get more than just localized people on, but you know, for the most part, I think right now you start off by okay, like what are some ways we can connect it to the community community? Because the thing is, like, I've had people on who are like, hey, now that I've been on, like, here goes four friends that you need to go reach out to. They love I think they would love coming on. And it's usually four friends I've never heard of before, you know. And so, so I think for me, like that's the next step is I think that that will kind of expedite a little bit of getting to know some people in the community and maybe otherwise wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for the podcast. Yeah, you already got uh four episodes right there. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Yeah, you know, yeah. So so we'll we'll see how it goes. But but yeah, hopefully I I'm excited. I th I think that could work out. But again, this is not for me to create Brad Winter's Kingdom or anything like that. Realistically, like it's just it's been fun hearing people's stories and listening to them and uh being able to continue that in a different setting. I think would be really cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:20

Brand new uh whispers. Yeah, yeah. Of the bayou.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:26

Take it away.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:27

So just lead into it. Yeah. Yeah. So all right, well, guys, well, you know, Tyler One, thanks for coming on and interviewing me. Uh it's been really cool. I'm usually not on this side of the mic. And I hope if you're listening to this, you got something out of it. And it's not for my ego or anything like that. It's again, that's what the podcasts are for, I feel like. And so, you know, if you're listening to all things Owensboro, or you have, even if you listen to one story and it was la it was yesterday, thank you. Thank you for listening. Thank you for whether you've been in Owensboro or Louisville, or which I learned how to say that word right. I think I'm saying it right, or you're in Australia, which we've had it download there, uh weirdly enough. You know, thanks for listening. I think it's been great. I think I think the support's been really cool to see that it's just been exploding. And I wish I can continue on with Owensboro, but obviously that's just not the cards. Uh God has different plans, and you know, sometimes following God has a cost to it. And you see that throughout the Bible. I think I feel like I've seen that a lot in my devotions lately. But again, we have whispers on the bayou coming out hopefully soon. You know, my goal would be like two to four weeks once I'm down there, but again, we're moving, it's a different city. I'm kind of moving into more of a shepherding role and it with the staff more than I am. Do everything with the rec center type deal, which I haven't had before, just in general. And so, so it may be a month, it may be six months, but again, we looking looking out for whispers on the bayou. I don't even have guests lined up yet. I have somewhat of an intro in mind, but I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. And if you're listening to this, like one thing that I always like to like to leave, I always ask people on the spot for gold. And but if you're if you're listening to this, you're like, there's this like one thing, like you didn't listen, you're like, we're an hour and eight two minutes in Brad. Like, I'm not even listening to this. This is background, background noise at this point. I just want to leave you with one thing, and that's really everybody has a story, but don't be afraid to share it. You know, like I could go into detail of my life story, we don't need to, but I can, you know. I and again, like Tyler said earlier, you know, you may be a baker and trying to figure out how to do things and hearing other bakers talk about their experience and be like, hey, like I learned something new. So don't be afraid, everybody has a story. Um and it may sound boring to you, but it you just never know whose life you can touch through that.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:31

So yeah, and I mean it's not I mean, you could say it's the places that we've been, but it's also the people that we meet.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:38

Yeah, people we meet, places we've been. I I think all that influences you who people are in the current moment, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:44

Yeah, because we we always meet that one person that makes us better. People that challenge us. So, you know, you get that friendly competition to where okay, I gotta outdo this person now, and then a few weeks later they outdo you, and then you gotta do out them.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:00

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, I think competition, like when viewed in a r in the right way, is is super healthy. Yeah. So but yeah, so I I guess I I think like places you've been, places you've worked, the people that you've you've met, your family growing up, but that all ties into your your story and who you are right now. Yeah, and I think everybody has nobody has the same story. They don't even my brothers and sisters I grew up with don't have the same story as me, right? And so even though we grew up in the same household. So I just say like everybody has a story, and I would I would encourage more people to share their story, whether it be on a podcast or a written form or whatever the case may be. So yeah. So well, thanks, Tyler. I appreciate it, man. Yeah, no problem.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:40

And you always been a good friend, and yeah, yeah. I've enjoyed eating a lot of your desserts. You helped me, I help you, and yeah, yeah. Uh it's it's really been an honor somewhat interviewing you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:51

Well, thank you, Tyler. I appreciate it. So all right, guys. Well, thanks again for listening to all things, Owens Pro. Uh, please like, subscribe, review. I know it's about to maybe change and look a lot different, but those are the things that help continue to get the word out. And again, it's not about me, it's about getting those stories out there. So make sure you do that. But thanks, thanks for everything you guys have done over the last year and six weeks. I appreciate the support. I hope to see you soon on the other bridge. So we'll see you later, guys. And quick little lesson.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:15

Yes. Don't start fires in trash cans. Yeah, don't run away at an amusement park without telling someone that you're going to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:23

That's not a very good idea. Yeah, don't learn learn my life lessons.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:27

Yeah. And if your kid poops in the playground, someone else has already experienced it.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:32

Yeah, don't freak out. I literally was freaking out. And some asked me, dad's like, it's okay, it's happened to me before, too. And I'm like, all right. You know, so yeah, well, thanks, Tell. I appreciate it, man. Yeah, no problem. Again, thank you guys for listening and hope to see you on another side. I don't really know how to end this, and honestly, maybe that fits. Because stories usually don't end as cleanly as we want them to. Sometimes they just transition into something new. When we moved to Owensboro in 2020, I had no idea what the city would become for our family. I didn't know the friendships we build. I didn't know this random podcast idea would turn into over 60 episodes, thousands of downloads, and conversations I'll carry with me for the rest of my life. But somewhere along the way, I realized this podcast was never really about numbers. It was about people. The biggest names didn't always have the biggest impact. Sometimes the stories that hit hardest came from ordinary people just being honest about life, struggles, faith, loss, family, business, fear, redemption, and second chances. And I think that's what I'll remember most. Not the microphones, not the graphics, not the downloads, but the people. Owensboro welcomed us, not perfectly, but no place is perfect, but relationally, deeply. I'll miss Friday nights, I'll miss OIBL, I'll miss Kinect Camp Chaos, I'll miss Apollo Sports, I'll miss random conversations in Walmart about an episode somebody listened to on the way to work. And more than anything, I'll miss the relationships. Because at the end of the day, that is what lasts. So as my family heads to Louisiana and steps into whatever God has next, I just want to say thank you. Thank you for listening. Thank you for supporting this thing. Thank you for trusting me and so many others with your stories. And maybe this isn't really goodbye. Maybe it's just the end of chapter one. So for the final time, this has been All Things Owensworld. And whatever life takes you, keep showing up for people because everybody has a story worth listening to.