Praxis

The Five Hindrances (Bonus episode)

Michael Joinson Season 1

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Discover the Five Hindrances that hold us back in our pursuit of meaningful practice and purpose. We discuss their origins in Buddhism and how they relate to everyday challenges. 
 
• Exploring sense desire as a major distraction 
• Understanding aversion and self-compassion in practice 
• Tackling sloth, torpor, and rekindling motivation 
• Grounding ourselves amidst restlessness and worry 
• Combatting self-doubt and fostering trust in self 

If you’d like to share your own experiences with these hindrances, connect with us on Instagram @praxis_podcast! 


Speaker 1

Welcome to Praxis , the podcast where practice makes purpose . I'm Mikey and I'll be interviewing people about the practices that reveal and create purpose in their lives . Welcome to a mini episode of Praxis . While my main focus will be interviewing people , interviewing experts and people who have dedicated themselves to a particular practice , I'm going to jump on here every now and then to do mini episodes to discuss an idea , something that I've read about , something that I think is relevant to practice , just to kind of keep things ticking over and things that might not necessarily be talked about in the main episodes . In this episode , I would like to talk about the five hindrances , which are five kind of attitudes or phenomena at play that can stop you from achieving your goals or stop you from practicing in the first place . Now , these five hindrances come from Buddhism originally , and in the original context and in the original context , we're taught by the Buddha in order to ensure that the monks or the meditators or his followers could meditate to the best of their abilities . Now I think that these hindrances are actually at play in a broader context and are applicable to practices outside of spirituality , outside of meditation . So if you've ever struggled with distraction , self-doubt , lack of motivation , then these hindrances are likely at play . I put up a poll on my Instagram yesterday about what barriers people felt that they experienced the most in terms of their practice , and distraction was the biggest one , and that is one of the five hindrances . The good news is that there are antidotes or so-called cures for these hindrances that help us break through these barriers to practice what we wish to practice .

Speaker 1

So what is the first of the five hindrances ? The first hindrance is sense desire , and this is when we crave pleasurable distractions . Now this could be food TV . Now this could be food TV . Checking social media on your phone anything that gives you sensual pleasure . Now , obviously , part of being human is that bring us joy , actually make life worth living . In my own running practice , for example , I'm currently training for a marathon and I often find this hindrance at play on a Sunday morning , when I know I've got to do a long run . Find this hindrance at play on a Sunday morning when I know I've got to do a long run and I'll have to stay in bed for like an extra half an hour scrolling through social media . Now that is the sense desire hindrance . The cure for this , or the antidote for this , is recognizing that cravings are temporary and that if you lean into them , eventually they do disappear . So by lean into , I don't mean satisfy or give into , but I mean really feeling where the craving is in your body . Is it a tightness , is it a hunger ? What is it you're craving and how does that manifest in your body ? I've got a bit of a sweet tooth and I often find myself craving sweet things after meals . Now , one thing I've tried to teach myself to do is just be aware of that and not give in to it straight away . You know , maybe say to myself okay , if I'm still craving some chocolate in , say , half an hour , then I'll have some , or I'll have a glass of water or something to kind of distract myself from it , and usually it goes away .

Speaker 1

The second hindrance is aversion or ill will , and basically what this means is any negative thoughts that you have towards your practice . So it could be anger , frustration , even resistance to the practice itself , especially when you feel like you're not making progress or there's discomfort around your practice .

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Speaker 1

I'll stick with my example of running . So this morning I went for a run and in my marathon schedule I should have done 24-25k this morning . By about 16k I could feel my hamstrings getting really twingy , a bit sore , and I was like , oh , I don't think I'm going to make this , but I'll keep pushing through and just see how I go by . About 19K I had to stop because I was in quite a bit of pain . My hamstrings were really , really tight and I knew that if I carried on I could injure myself . Now I did have moments of beating myself up about this . You know I'm now behind schedule in terms of my training , but I've developed the awareness of this happening and so I practice the antidote , which is metta , which is a word meaning loving , kindness . So , rather than beating myself up , I kind of soften into this comfort with self-compassion , with gentleness , with friendliness towards myself . You know , I did a 19K run , which is a really , you know , big feat in and of itself , and me two , three years ago would never have dreamed of being able to run 19K . So when you feel frustration or anger or ill will arise , maybe shift your focus to one of patience , one of gentleness , one of compassion , one of gentleness , one of compassion .

Speaker 1

The third of the hindrances they are very old-fashioned words , shall we say sloth and torpor , which basically means a lack of physical and mental energy . This is when you feel sluggish , you're unmotivated , you feel quite dull mentally and this can manifest itself in a sense of I'm too tired to do that or do you know what ? I'm just going to rest tonight when actually you probably could have gone for a run , you probably could have gone to the gym , you could have meditated . This sometimes manifests for me when I'm doing a meditation practice in the morning . So I get up first thing , I'll feed my cat and then I will sit down on the meditation bench or cushion Because it's still pretty early and I've only just woken up . Sometimes I do find myself zoning out and sometimes I might fall asleep ever so slightly , and it seems a bit counterintuitive . But the cure for this lack of energy or motivation is to move around . So getting up , going for a walk , going for a quick jog If I'm sitting , then I might stand up and stretch In running . There's sometimes when I've had to go for a run and I don't feel like I can do the full distance . But I'll trick myself into saying , okay , I'll just get in my running gear and I'll run for 3 to 5K , which is doable in a shorter amount of time , and I'll see at the end how I feel , nine times out of 10 , that 3 to five k has generated more energy that I can then actually run a little bit longer .

Speaker 1

The fourth hindrance this is restlessness and worry , what the Buddhists call the monkey mind , where your mind is fixated on things that have happened in the past that you're worried about , um , or things in the future that have not happened yet . It's overthinking , it's anxiety , it's a lack of being present . Um , in running , for example , this could be when I am thinking about the race coming up as opposed to the one that I'm doing right now . Um , I've got a marathon coming up in about six weeks , so you know , as I'm going for a run as part of my training program , it might be worrying about that date in April , as opposed to being fully present on the run right now . The cure for this restlessness and worry is being present and grounding yourself with some sort of anchor whether that's the breath connecting with your body , somehow just trying to be present and actually understanding that the past can't be changed and the future hasn't happened yet , so worrying about it is not going to happen .

Speaker 1

The fifth and final hindrance is doubt . Now , this can manifest itself as self-doubt or doubt about the practice itself . So this often manifests as am I even doing this right ? What's the point in this ? I'm never going to be as good as XYZ person . It could be going to the gym and thinking I don't really know what I'm doing , so I'm just going to go home , or it could be . You know my running practice . I have to compare myself to other people . What's that expression ? Comparing despair ? Well , I am guilty of that all the time . Well , I am guilty of that all the time . I run around Battersea Park quite a lot and that is full of runners who are taller than me , more athletic than me , who've probably been running for years more than I've been running . And sometimes it can be disheartening for me to be on my run and see these people zoom past me and I think you know what . I'm never going to be as good as them , but that's actually fine .

Speaker 1

The cure for their syndromes is kind of trust through experience , and by that I mean looking back at how far you've come and seeing . Actually there is progress there , there is a process . You know , if I look at when I first started running , I was a lot slower and I couldn't run as far Now , I'm never going to win world records in running , but in the past two , three years I've seen a huge amount of progress that I'm really proud of . So whenever I see myself comparing myself or doubting my progress you know , like this morning when I felt really sore so I had to stop a little bit early I have to look back and think actually me two years ago would never have been able to run this distance , never mind even further . So just trusting in that process .

Speaker 1

So as my final kind of takeaway , the five hindrances distraction , frustration , fatigue , overthinking , anxiety , doubt these affect every practice , but they're not obstacles to avoid necessarily . They are part of the path . And there's a Buddhist saying no mud , no lotus , which means that you need the messy work of everyday life , you need the negative emotions , you need to work through all that in order to achieve the positive results . Now , in buddhist practice . Obviously they're talking about enlightenment after meditation practice , but I think these are actually applicable to all practices .

Speaker 1

You know , whether that's yoga , writing , parenting , sport , art , we all go through these periods of distraction or overthinking or doubt . You know how many of us have planned to do something on a Sunday afternoon , for example , end up having a nap , waking up , checking Instagram for half an hour plus , and then you realize , oh , actually I can't be bothered doing anything now . Well , that's one of the hindrances at play . So there you have the five hindrances from Buddhist philosophy , and I would like to invite you to think about how they potentially manifest in your life , in your praxis , whatever that might be , and I would love to hear from you . So feel free to DM me . You can find me at praxis underscore podcast on Instagram , and thank you for listening and I will see you next time .