Destination Weddings, Honeymoon Hot Spots, and Flight Attendant Tips for Nervous Flyers

We’re sitting down with Adriana Brauckmann—host of The Pre Nup Podcast — to talk all things weddings, travel, and yes… flying fears. From destination weddings and honeymoon trends to the chaos of bachelor and bachelorette parties, this one’s packed with stories, laughs, and some seriously helpful insights if you’re planning a big trip (or a big day).

We also flip the script and let Adriana grill us as nervous-flyer passengers. We get into turbulence, airplane mode myths, overhead bin drama, and what’s actually going on behind the scenes at 35,000 feet. If you’ve ever had questions about flying—or wondered how to make your wedding unforgettable without going broke—you’re gonna want to hear this. 

Episode Highlights

[0:46] We kick things off introducing Adriana and why this convo is the perfect mix of weddings + aviation

[2:23] Adriana shares a wild turbulence story that’ll make any nervous flyer sweat

[5:21] We break down turbulence—why it’s gotten worse and why you shouldn’t panic

[6:35] Adriana dives into how she got into the wedding industry and started her podcast

[10:16] We relive our own wedding planning chaos (yes, including handmade map flowers)

[15:15] Why the “little details” actually make or break a wedding

[15:52] Bachelor/bachelorette trips—fun bonding or totally out of control?

[20:41] Where couples are really spending money now (hint: honeymoon > wedding)

[24:05] Trending honeymoon destinations—including why African safaris are having a moment

[32:39] Destination weddings: smarter, cheaper, and way more personal

[39:21] Adriana puts us on the spot with nervous flyer questions

[40:24] Airplane mode—myth vs reality

[42:55] Why alcohol hits harder in the air

[44:32] The truth about airplane coffee (you asked… we answered)

[47:11] Why your “one pound overweight” bag actually matters

[48:43] Overhead bin chaos—why there’s never enough space

[51:01] How rare in-flight emergencies really are

[54:01] What flight attendants actually do during scary moments

[56:24] Our biggest passenger pet peeves (yep… we said it)

[1:00:30] How to instantly get on a flight attendant’s good side

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Transcript

Andrew: 0:00

You see these images of people holding full suitcases while going down the slide. What if you're the idiot that pops the slide now no one else can get off the plane because your roller bag was that important.

Adriana Brauckmann: 0:10

What do you Yeah, no, that's crazy. Nothing in your bag. Emergency situation like I think we as people need a little bit more understanding and maybe training on what an emergency is.

Rich: 0:24

Yeah, Ever wondered what your flight attendants are really talking about behind the galley curtain?

Andrew: 0:30

Welcome to Two guys on a plane. Your go to podcast for an insider look at flight attendant life.

Rich: 0:35

We're your hosts, rich and Drew, and we're here to tell you what really goes on at 35,000 feet.

Unknown: 0:40

So sit back, relax. We're ready for takeoff.

Rich: 0:46

Whether you work in the airline industry or you're just someone who loves to travel, listen up, because we have a very special guest with us in the studio. Joining us today is Adriana Brockman, host of the wildly popular wedding planning podcast, the prenup. Adriana has tons of experience helping folks plan their big day to make sure the process is both fun and, of course, turbulence free. Aside from being an expert in everything you need to know about weddings, Adriana also happens to be a bit of a nervous flyer. We're going to talk about everything from the hottest honeymoon destinations, our biggest bachelor bachelorette party pet peeves, and how to actually calm your nerves when you are afraid to fly.

Andrew: 1:21

Welcome, Adriana, we had so much fun on your show. So it's so fun to have you here on our show today.

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:28

You guys. I had so much fun with you on your show. My only complaint was for myself, because when I get excited, I start like not being able to shut the hell up. I am talking over them, because I'm so excited today I'm gonna be

Andrew: 1:44

cognizant watching the episode back though, and at one point I was like, throwing my hands to, like, get everyone to be quiet because I had important things. I look wild.

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:54

You know what? You have to be scrappy, to fight your white again, to say what you need absolutely. We love

Rich: 2:01

to Yap. So welcome aboard. Thank you so much

Adriana Brauckmann: 2:03

for having me. I love you guys. You're so fun, so funny. I'm so excited

Andrew: 2:06

for this episode. Now. We normally start our episodes off by like, crazy rants of things that have happened to us in our like, week or month of flying. So we want to know what's your wildest story about a passenger or something insane that happened to you while you were on a flight, while I

Adriana Brauckmann: 2:23

was on a flight. Okay, so, thank God, nothing so so crazy or unhinged, because I couldn't take it like I'm the kind of person who would actually break down.

Unknown: 2:35

She's like, actually the flange she's missing last

Adriana Brauckmann: 2:39

night you were in it. That is me. So like, thank God. But a few years back, can I tell a story of my mom and my sister and brother, absolutely,

Andrew: 2:51

if you don't want them name, don't say their name.

Adriana Brauckmann: 2:57

So tour John and wend are on a flight to Vegas from Philadelphia, and they're just over, I guess the Rockies, it starts to be like something really crazy. They find out that they have to do an emergency landing somewhere. I don't know if it was actually in Nevada, but they were going to be quite a distance from Vegas, so they had to drive. But apparently the flight was so bad and turbulent that people were hitting their heads on the ceiling. There was vomit. Like, yeah, it was like a really, really bad flight. My mom, a devout Catholic, is saying her prayers, doing a rosary, holding hands with someone, closing her eyes. And my sister, who it is, she's on my podcast a lot. She's really funny and pretty dry, but she looks at my mom as just the flight is blowing up, for lack of better word, but she's like, can you open your eyes because you're making me sick? My mom's like, I'm worried I'm about to die here. So yeah, that's like, the craziest thing that comes to my mind. But other than just, like, probably really moderate turbulence, I haven't had to deal with anything so crazy that is good.

Rich: 4:08

Yeah, yeah, especially as a nervous flyer,

Andrew: 4:10

and turbulence has gotten wicked as of late, like we've been experiencing more and more heavy turbulence than I mean, I've been flying for, I'm not gonna say it again. I've been flying for a long time, and then, like, the last like, five years, like I feel like turbulence has gotten worse, which is, you know why we tell you to wear your seatbelt when you're not, because we don't want you hitting the ceiling. But it is. It is a real possibility, for sure.

Adriana Brauckmann: 4:34

And thank you for validating that, because I've felt like the last few flights I've taken, I'm like, are we always having this much charm? Used to we used to

Unknown: 4:43

have a lot more smooth

Rich: 4:46

so much worse. Over the last few years, weather patterns are getting crazy, jet streams are crazy, all that sort of stuff. Does it ever

Andrew: 4:54

freak you guys out? You know, we talk about this a lot, but no, I think. Yeah, after you've been through training, and we're a lot more in the know about what's going on, like, we get briefings before the flight. The pilots will tell us, like, where weather patterns are, where there's areas of turbulence, we usually get some sort of phone call in the moment, like expected, in like five minutes, sit down. So okay, it's a little easier to it's not as scary when you're more in the know about it, right?

Adriana Brauckmann: 5:21

You know, What's so weird to me is when a pilot I had this was a little bit weird. It wasn't so crazy, but it was a little bit strange. Pilot got on the fluid flight, and he's like, folks, brace yourself. We are going to be hitting extreme, to use a word, a negative word. It was something like terrible or extreme, terrible turbulence. So just brace yourself, setting

Unknown: 5:43

you up for negativity.

Andrew: 5:45

You know, we love when they start the flight with that, though, because that means we're not gonna hit anything if they don't say anything. That's when you know you're in for a choppy ride. Come on, interacting like this is gonna be the worst day to fly ever. Just keep your seat belt

Adriana Brauckmann: 6:01

on, but you'll be fine. But he sounded scared. I'm like, I want my palate in control, like things are falling apart. I wouldn't be like, no big deal. Yeah, right, this plane safely. We only

Rich: 6:11

need one wing. What? That's great. Well, when we were on your show, we talked a lot about kind of our origin story, but we didn't get to talk about you as much, and kind of where you started with your crazy world of weddings. How did all of that start? What inspired you to get into the wedding planning industry, and what, what led you to your podcast, and kind

Adriana Brauckmann: 6:35

of where you are today? Yeah, yeah. So crazy world of weddings is absolutely crap. It's so crazy for anyone planning or who has been married, you know, you guys know, but I've been in the wedding industry for probably 10 ish years, something like that. And I always noticed the same thing with brides specifically, but couples definitely. Brides specifically, were looking for a wedding that was as outstanding as it was beautiful. They were looking for something that could be featured in Vogue, or look like it was featured in Vogue. Feel that way, but they were maybe working with a budget that wasn't that high, and they also wanted just an experience that was individual to them, but also was going to serve their guests. So the guest experience has become such a big thing for people. They want tradition brides, but they also want to kind of flip tradition a little bit and create their unique moment. And with social media, we see so much of that now. And it's great, it's, it's a double edged sword about because while it's great, it's the comparison game. You know, it's like, oh, well, this person had this, this and this, like, I would love something like that. But where do I start? So with the podcast, my aim is always to just give brides power and information and like, How can I do this? Because I always tell people, you don't necessarily need a wedding planner, although it makes things a lot easier, but you don't need a wedding planner. You just need the knowledge know how the inspiration. So what we do on the show is bring on. We have, we're so, so fortunate and lucky. We have some of the most amazing, incredible wedding vendors in the world giving tips. And we have influencers and like, sort of celebrities and things like that. Come on, and they'll talk about their wedding planning process. So maybe they either have the means to have hired like the best of the best, and they can walk through that experience and what that looked like, or they're just, you know, they have a big following because they have a really unique vision, and they help our brides get into the mindset of, okay, how can I draw this inspiration? So it's not really a copy paste, but it's like, okay, well, we, we aren't getting inspiration from this wedding that we saw featured on the knot, we're getting inspiration from our favorite restaurant down the street that has, like, really great ambiance and the best food and all that stuff. So that's what we aim to empower. And then we always like to sprinkle some fun and some some humor in there too, and take the piss out of it a little bit.

Rich: 9:17

Yeah, I love that because, you know, we we shared our wedding story a few times, and it's crazy, because it's like, when you first get engaged, you're excited, but you don't even know where to start. That's and so, like, you're right, well, you don't need a planner. You need someone to be like, Okay, here's things you're not thinking about. Here's some do's and don'ts and things like that. So it's, it's great.

Andrew: 9:37

Yes, we had our Pinterest wedding. It would have been like, $4.6

Adriana Brauckmann: 9:41

million yeah, million. That's the thing they don't tell you. That's the thing that no bride really understands. Because why would she? She's not in this space, she's not in the industry. But I loved your story when you were on the prenup, because you guys said you were all in one. 10k which is unheard of, but you were two people, and there's a reason that you guys have a big following, and people love to love you and hate to you. It's because you do have vision, so you're able to execute it and get yourself you're you're artists, in a way. Wouldn't you say?

Andrew: 10:16

Yeah, yeah. I think what I forgot to tell everyone on your podcast was that the floral arrangements we actually handmade. Did you really we took maps and I hand folded every flower, except for, like, a couple antique ones that my sister in law bought for us. Wow, every map was hand folded. How long did it take? Oh, my God, months.

Rich: 10:36

And it was sweet of him to start off by saying we actually love to

Unknown: 10:43

start off by saying, Wait,

Adriana Brauckmann: 10:45

oh, they're so beautiful, but I can only imagine it took months. And did you okay? Did you enjoy doing it?

Andrew: 10:51

I enjoyed starting doing by the time we got to the end of it, my fingers were hot glued together, and I was like, If I ever see another map, I'm gonna burn it.

Rich: 11:02

No, there was glue on, like, every inch of our kitchen counter, for sure, where you're like,

Andrew: 11:07

What is this? But how do you plan an aviation themed wedding and not have maps? We were looking for old, like, pilot charts to make things out of, and we couldn't get our hands on them, but it would have been fun.

Adriana Brauckmann: 11:18

You guys are actually the perfect example of what I'm talking about, and the kinds of couples that I like to bring on the show, because you weren't looking at on Pinterest aviation themed weddings. That was your thing, that was so unique to you. And it's like, Okay, now we're thinking outside the box, and people shy away from a theme because they think it's kitschy. But I always say, lean into a theme. You don't have to, you know, if you're doing,

Andrew: 11:45

see, I'm, I'm the I say, lean into it. Yeah, if you are going to pick a theme, go

Rich: 11:51

all the way we went as cheesy as,

Andrew: 11:52

how print everything, if that's what your vibe is.

Adriana Brauckmann: 11:55

But it turns out, really, really beautiful. It's right, and, and I guess it's better to say, you know you have to, you don't have to go full throttle into the theme, but you can draw inspiration from your theme and like, What feelings do it evoke, and what design elements can we borrow from that? But you guys want full throttle, but it's so subtle, like, I have to be three feet away from that to see that Therma, right? But the detail in it is what makes it so unique, so cool, so beautiful. So you guys, people don't

Rich: 12:25

realize that enough about weddings, like it was all the little things that really just made our wedding magical. I mean, obviously it was cool we got married and a hanger around airplanes. But you know, it really is, like those little details that just make it uniquely yours, absolutely and that people remember.

Adriana Brauckmann: 12:41

And by the way, you have to listen to the episode with Jerome rich on the prenup, because it really, really is such a good episode for people to take inspiration from when they're planning weddings. Remind us the episode name, the episode name was. It's something about you guys proposing within 30 days. They proposed in 30 days. Yeah. Yeah, we'll find out. It's a fun chat. Whether or not you're doing an aviation theme, whatever kind of thing you're doing, the conversation is really important because you're drawing from where you got these the details. And I hate when people say the little things don't matter. No one's going to notice this or that. Well, the little things actually do matter. They make a big difference because you put so much of your soul into the little things, and that's what really creates the ambiance and the whole unique effect.

Rich: 13:32

And those are usually the cheaper things to do, totally cool napkin or something like that, like that sort of stuff. It doesn't change your overall, like, bottom line, you know, budget or whatever, but it does make just that much of

Adriana Brauckmann: 13:45

a difference. I love that you said napkin, because people talk about that all the time, and a lot of times, if you're doing a standard venue that typically hosts weddings, and they're offering a napkin and linen, you know, they'll offer, like, a white on white on white. And for people to save money, sometimes they're like, yeah, we'll just go with that. But I'm like, oh my god, the money you would save if you just got a little bit funky with an upgraded linen or napkin or switch that out, because it's so inexpensive, right? Those kinds of things, you wouldn't have to go all out with these elaborate centerpieces and all these other things.

Andrew: 14:17

I fought rich so hard at our wedding because our venue provided, like the stackable school chairs. And I was like, Fine, they'll go with the tables with black linens. Chairs don't matter. He was like, they matter. And I was like, they don't matter. And he was like, don't matter. And I was he, so we rented the chairs just for the ceremony, so we had nice chairs and the ceremony

Rich: 14:37

school chairs, the school chairs around

Unknown: 14:39

the black cloths. But chairs matter.

Rich: 14:44

We needed something to soften up the fact that we were in such an industrial space. I want a masculine wedding, because we're both guys, obviously I want something to soften it up and make it feel like a wedding. So and the chairs was like, the one thing I was like, I will fight everyone in this room. And I did. I went, I became. Little bit of a grim Zilla on the rehearsal night. But I was like, That chance

Adriana Brauckmann: 15:03

when it matters, you should, like, stand up for the thing that you want. Because usually, if you're going so hard for it and riding for it, it's a thing that will matter.

Unknown: 15:10

It really the pictures, it mattered a lot.

Adriana Brauckmann: 15:13

Oh, my God, your wedding pictures are gorgeous.

Rich: 15:15

I would have regretted it very hard. So one thing that we see a lot as flight attendants is the bachelor bachelorette parties, and you can spot them a mile away. You see them in the airport. They have their like, matching shirts. Someone's got a tiara on, they're probably already a little bit tipsy, and you just know they're gonna be in trouble on board, huh? And as flight attendants, sometimes they're super fun, yeah? Sometimes these groups get completely out of hand. But these bachelorette and bachelor parties have gotten so insane over the years. Like, it used to be like a drunken bar night, and now you've got these, like, elaborate trips. Like, what's your take on that? Do you do you like this trend? Or do you think it's gotten a little

Adriana Brauckmann: 15:52

out of hand? So I have two schools of thought on this, and on one hand, I love a bachelorette trip, personally, if any of my friends are getting married, because I'm like, any excuse for a girls trip, I love it. Like, I think that is quality bonding time with your favorite people. Like, I just there's something about it that I absolutely love. On the other hand, I do think it's gotten a little bit crazy. I think sometimes people do big bachelorette trips where they have to travel and, you know, do a Multi Night thing because they feel like they have to, because maybe their girlfriend, Stacy did it, and now they have to do it because, you know, you went to hers. Just, I hate when people say, do what you want, because, like, when people are looking for advice, or, you know, they want an answer. Is not great, yeah, but you can have just as much fun a night out local at home, you know, with your girls. And sometimes people are gonna have to fly in regardless if they want to be there for you that night. But some people are like, Nah, screw it. Like, I don't even want to do a batch party. That's, you know, and it's great too. Like you don't have to do it. But I do think it's gotten a little little little bit out of hand. I do say this as someone who took a Bachelorette,

Rich: 18:02

Charleston's popular these days. Charleston's really popular. We did them.

Andrew: 18:08

I say I took one. I went to my people, okay, because I don't live near all my friends and family. So I went to them, and we had a big weekend. We rented a house. It was super fun.

Rich: 18:18

Very fun. Yeah, yeah. I did mine. Well, the stupid thing is, I thought that the trend was, like, overrated. So, like, I'm gonna do, like, a low key weekend, and ended up choosing New York. And there's nothing low key about being in Manhattan, nothing cheap about Manhattan. So we did, I mean, we had a great time. We didn't brunch. We went and saw Kinky Boots on Broadway and went out to, like, the bars at night. I mean, it was a blast. But there was nothing cheap about me, sure, but I think, like, a night or two somewhere drivable or within a train distance from you, like, I think that's a wise way to do it, especially because, you know, we work in the airline industry. Flights are so unpredictable. And people have these, like, rigid schedules with these trips. And I'm like, if our flights 20 minutes late and that ruins your trip, that's your fault.

Adriana Brauckmann: 19:03

Absolutely, absolutely. And a lot of times, because of the nature of the trip, it's like, it's usually all different types of friends, it can only be a certain amount of time. And also, like, people are taking off of work. It's not the actual wedding. So yeah, you're right. It's usually two or three days, and it's like, yeah, if your flight gets canceled, you're b That sucks, right?

Andrew: 19:22

Funny, is New York's our backyard, so we didn't think Bachelor Party City totally is, yeah, I'm from Nashville, Bachelor bachelorette party like city of Yes,

Unknown: 19:32

I think that's all they do. Biggest places. Like, all we have is low key, yeah, no, it wasn't.

Adriana Brauckmann: 19:40

But I do, I get it because, like, Nashville's an easy flight from Philly. Like, for sure, yeah, it's like, I do get those reasons. And yeah, I it's, it's so tough because I really like the bachelorette trip, but I think that there are, there's time and place for it. So I'm seeing a lot of people get married very young right now. There seems to be a trend of people like, going back to, like, interesting 526, I'm

Rich: 20:08

like, that's like, one of our favorite things is that we were not super young when we did it. Or, like, I have a fully formed brain by the time I did it

Adriana Brauckmann: 20:17

a little bit before you commit to someone for forever, that was

Andrew: 20:20

like, we had made a lot of mistakes by the time we got to each other, so we were fully ready.

Adriana Brauckmann: 20:29

But I you know, when you're young, you also, like, don't have any money, so you can't do what you want for these types of trips. And, you know, if you are of age, you know, getting to the point, like in your 30s, and you want to take a trip. But sometimes people's lives, like, they start having kids and they have really demanding jobs where they have to travel a lot, Hello, yeah. So can't really. Yeah, it's, it's tough to ask people to do two or three nights away for a party to celebrate you. Maybe they're already traveling for your wedding also. So it's like, kind of have to be think about those things. Yeah, yeah.

Rich: 21:06

The money factor is such an important thing too. Like, you know, you're really sinking so much of your money into your wedding already, and it's like, don't go broke doing that, let alone on the trip that isn't even the wedding. You know? It's like, and then you've got your honeymoon, right? And it's like, what you've got that to plan on and worry about too. Like, where, where are you seeing people to put most of their money right now? Or people like focusing on honeymoons versus the wedding versus the bachelorette party, like, what

Adriana Brauckmann: 21:34

fortunately I am, people are seeking your advice, and it's putting toward the honeymoon. And you know, some people are, of course, going big with the wedding if they can, or if they have help, which is fabulous. Not everyone does, so it's a little bit different. But seeing so many couples, thank God, put money. I'm sorry I'm blanking on the name of it, that honey fund is one of the services that provides it, but it's a honeymoon fund, I guess is the best way to describe it. But people are registering for that, which we love to see, and they are maybe going back a little bit on some of the things, or maybe some of the guests that they were planning to invite to get that cost wedding, yeah, which we love 1020,

Rich: 22:16

years later, you know, when you're thinking about your wedding and stuff, you're not gonna think about, like, oh, the tea towels that I got for my registry. No, you're gonna be remembering the moments you had on your honeymoon that, like, you just, they're burned into your brain. That sounds like it's a negative thing. No, it's a fun, like, I think about that for like, you know, we did a mini moon, and then we did a, like, honeymoon a year later. And it's like those memories are, like, just still to this day, 10 years later, some of our favorite memories correct, of the whole process, you guys did it right?

Andrew: 22:46

Well, even our friends recently, I don't know if this is a trend or not, but we are seeing like most of our friends are having very small weddings, and then are having like, big reception, yes, yeah. We love to see it very intimate, like five, six people weddings, and then having, like, a 30 people party afterwards, and then a honeymoon. They're not. No one's going broke on weddings anymore that I are.

Adriana Brauckmann: 23:11

Well, they shouldn't be. No one should ever, ever be going broke on weddings. I mean, this is something that I will scream till I'm blue in the face. But like, do not take out a loan for your wedding. Do not go into debt for your wedding. I promise you, I swear. It is not worth it. Get Marc. If it's important you to be married, get married. Go to City Hall. Like, do the thing. Do the that's the reason you're doing it. You can always have the party. And I think it's even romantic, like, you can

Unknown: 23:36

always have the honeymoon. 10 years later,

Adriana Brauckmann: 23:38

you can have the honey, always have the honeymoon. Although I am like, I'm someone who's like, you got to do it, because life gets so in the way, and it's so important to take those trips while you're like, sprightly

Andrew: 23:50

and people to ask about this, because some people plan like those once in a lifetime trips for their honeymoon, right? Not things once in a lifetime for

Rich: 23:58

us. So I'm like, go,

Unknown: 24:02

great place to go, a little different

Adriana Brauckmann: 24:04

for you. It's so great and fabulous because you get to travel all these places. But you're right so many people like this is the trip, and Europe is

Unknown: 24:12

just as close as Vegas, like you can do

Adriana Brauckmann: 24:14

both of them. Thank you. Thank you. I don't understand. I know I have so many people give pushback in my personal life, like, oh, we can't do that chart. But Emily, we got, I'm like, but we went to Scottsdale,

Rich: 24:31

also the other side, the country the ocean, it's

Unknown: 24:36

still just a five and a half hour flight. Like, it's fine, yeah, fine. It's fine.

Adriana Brauckmann: 24:40

We're getting on a flight. What are

Rich: 24:41

some of the destinations people are going to for their honeymoons now, because for like, Bachelor bachelorette parties, we see, like, Nashville, Charleston, Vegas, like, some of the Austin, Scottsdale, like, we see the typical ones. But honeymoons, I feel like people are going a little all over. Are there any like standout destinations people are going

Adriana Brauckmann: 24:58

to right now, for sure, so I think we were laughing about this when you guys are on, but like, a mafi coast was such a big thing for such a long time, but in the last probably year and a half, all the like, hot little influencers that come on, who I love, I'm obsessed with. They're all like, because they're in the know, and I want to do what they're doing if I'm going to be copying something like, I want to see where someone's going for a trip. I don't necessarily want to take everything from their trip, right, but I want to see the destination. Like, where has good culture, where has good food? What are we seeing? What are we doing? Where are we shopping? This isn't really a shopping destination, per se, but so many brides are telling me that they're doing African Safari.

Unknown: 25:37

Oh, nice. We just had friends do that for their honeymoon. Did they? Yeah, yeah.

Rich: 25:42

That's such a good choice, especially for people who aren't, like in aviation, and don't have, like, as crazy flexible schedules as we have, because, like, you're planning this big trip, that is something you need time for. You need to really plan. For like that. That's a smart time to do it.

Adriana Brauckmann: 25:56

Oh yeah, oh yeah. And it's, it is one of those things where, if you are a couple who's like, we're planning our wedding in this time, and then we have our honeymoon, and you're, you can take a multi week thing, like, it's, it's far, so you know, you have to plan, so worth it. So worth it. Yeah, I've never done it. It looks phenomenal. We haven't, either we

Unknown: 26:18

I would love to, I have,

Rich: 26:20

and it's so you have want to go back and do do it with Andrew, for sure, because it would be amazing.

Adriana Brauckmann: 26:25

Oh, yeah, yeah, you guys should just do honeymoon, like a honeymoon segment where you just, like, right?

Rich: 26:33

Love that idea. We basically do every year, like we go somewhere new for our anniversary. Every single

Andrew: 26:38

one of the promises we made when we got married is that we would spend our anniversary somewhere different in the world. I love that. So we plan a new trip every year. And we picked, I mean, October is a great time to travel, is it? Yeah? Why is that?

Rich: 26:50

I don't know. It's just, it's just, yeah, it's kind of when weather is great, everywhere, yeah, the weather is good. And then for us as crew members, we fly standby. So it's one of those seasons where flights aren't as full because people are back to work from like, summer vacation, or they're gearing up for the holidays, so like, they're not really traveling as much, although that's changing as more people get married in October, yes, but it's it's nicer, because we're more likely to get on flights to where we need to go. Flying in the middle of the summer, on standby is not for the faint of heart. I am sure, may or may not make it. And you bring up

Andrew: 27:20

a great point about tick tock. And this is one of the places. Is a hill I will die on. This is where you use tick tock for hacks. Yeah. This is a hack that is absolutely great. My little brother is planning a trip to Europe, and he was like, I want to bounce around. And I named, like, three countries. And he was like, what? Countries. And he was like, What do I do when I get there? And I was like, I don't know. Go on Instagram. Go on Tiktok, look it up. Like people are doing these things. Let these people, like, tell you what's great about these countries, yes, and figure out how you need to map

Adriana Brauckmann: 27:48

out your trip. And that's what you find. Like restaurants and stuff when I travel, that's I'm not gonna go to, I'm sorry, maybe this is bad, and if they're a potential sponsor, then just cut going on TripAdvisor and finding out, you know what the what the things are, the top 10, whatever. Yeah, no, that's that's boring. I can find out from real people who've been there, who've lived it, who've eaten there, who've done all the things like, and I can see the experience. I could see if it's something that it'd be interested in.

Rich: 28:18

Well, another pro tip, kind of off topic or tangent A little bit here about that, is when you're traveling, like, especially in Europe, anywhere that's standing outside with a menu and is like, trying to summon you into the restaurant, don't go there. They're begging for business. They're gonna be mediocre. Don't do it. Go to the place that's full of locals. You know, like looking at a restaurant or someone that's like, I don't think I really want to see you. You know, like, there's totally those hosts in some of those restaurants are like, like, you want grateful to be here. You want to go to those places because they have the good food.

Andrew: 28:50

If Tiktok is telling you to go somewhere, find that food, and then go like Google and walk around and find that food don't go to the restaurant that they tell you to go to if they're telling you to go to a landmark, because that's the thing, go and figure out what time of day you're supposed to go. Because if their video is full, your video is going to be full of people too.

Adriana Brauckmann: 29:07

That is so, so smart. Before he went to Paris, actually, someone mentioned some something similar. They were like, if there are flowers adorned outside. Yeah, that's, that's tourist trap. Like, you don't want to go somewhere that has flowers all over it, and I'm just passing places that are covered with flowers. Like, that's so pretty

Rich: 29:26

you're already halfway there. You got to figure it out. You'll be a tourist or a Travel Planner in no time. Oh, God, I

Andrew: 29:32

doubt that, and I will tell you, as a tourist in Paris, the Eiffel Tower is a twice a day thing. The daytime version of the Eiffel Tower and the nighttime version of the Eiffel Tower are different things. Take a crepe and enjoy a breakfast by the Eiffel Tower. Take champagne and enjoy the sparkly Eiffel Tower. But they are different vibes all together. You have to do it twice. I promise.

Adriana Brauckmann: 29:52

What's your favorite city in Europe.

Rich: 29:55

You know, as many times as we get asked this question, I can never answer it, because the second I say an answer, I'm like, Oh, but I also love, but recently, I'll just go with that. Was Brasov in Romania. Oh, yeah, you guys are saying Romania is sick point so charming. It's like, in the mountains it there's like, it's Dracula's castles near there. So there's kind of this, like spooky but also old world vibe, but it's also kind of romantic in a way, like it's, it's such a great destination to go do and apparently it's really good for skiing, too, if you go that time of year.

Andrew: 30:27

That's interesting. I have a different answer. Okay, stand on it. It has been the same for since we went to this location. Yes, it's Budapest Hungary. Yeah, it is literally my favorite place. We've been back like three times now, so probably live there. It's so could you live there? Yeah, what's the vibe? It's loaded question. No, it's one of those places where it has, like, untouched architecture. It never really got caught up in a war. So all the architecture is normal, the food is amazing and super unique. It sits right on the donab River, like Buddha is on one side and pasture is on the other. So, like the whole city center is on the dunaby River. Dunaby, I don't

Rich: 31:09

know Donna be someone will correct this in the comments.

Andrew: 31:13

It sits right on the river, so like half of it there were, like, cave churches, there were castles. The food was so good, the drinks was good. It was fun in the day, it was fun in the night, we went to a beer bath. I got wasted in a bath, and

Adriana Brauckmann: 31:28

I'm sorry, what is the beer bath?

Rich: 31:30

Your recollection of this city is wild? Yeah. They're famous for, like, their their Turkish baths, sure, sure. And so one of the ones that we found actually on Airbnb was like, go to this beer bath experience. And we're like, well, we'll go to the baths, and then we'll do this, like, exclusive experience. And so basically, you get, we had, like, our private area of this room with two like, big wooden bath tubs, and they fill it with hot water, as well as, like the hops and stuff from the beer, like the florals and all the aromas and stuff is very like aromatic and very relaxing. But then in between the two tubs is a beer tap, and you can have as much beer as you want. In addition to that, someone comes in every like, probably 20 minutes of this hour and a half experience with a tray of snacks and a local craft beer like, paired with the snack for like, the flavors and the profile or whatever. So, like, you're getting snacks, you're getting way more alcohol than you need. So you're getting hammered.

Andrew: 32:31

You're drowned. There are pictures one time, like, legs up, oh yeah, thank

Adriana Brauckmann: 32:38

God for the snack man to come check almost

Unknown: 32:42

drowned, but it was wonderful, magical experience in my life.

Rich: 32:45

It sounds phenomenal, most relaxed I think I've ever been in my entire life.

Andrew: 32:48

So so inexpensive. Really, it was so inexpensive. Still, as we were just there last year.

Rich: 32:53

Well, we're talking like$40 a night Airbnbs. Granted, it's Europe, so you're like, going up, walking up to, like, the 10th floor, whatever, 40 bucks a night. I need exercise.

Adriana Brauckmann: 33:03

Friggin lutely, I love to what you said about the pact to travel be in a different destination for every anniversary. Because, of course, your flight attendants like, it's right. It's easy for you to do that, but it's easier for everyone else to do it than they probably think. And you don't have to go across the world, like you can go to maybe a city that's like, I don't know, three hours away that you've never been to. I think that's such a good fun tip. Yep, it's so true.

Rich: 33:32

So what? What are you what are your thoughts on destination weddings? We're seeing that kind of more and more too. I feel like people are kind of thinking, Okay, well, I don't want to get married in my hometown. Let's go somewhere. Have an intimate vacation wedding built into one. Like, are you liking this trend? Are you

Adriana Brauckmann: 33:50

I absolutely love it. I think it is so smart for a ton of reasons. I think, number one, you just get to be married in a beautiful destination. Maybe you're experiencing something new. Maybe it's something that's special to the two of you, that you can bring loved ones to and join you there, where you can elope there. Really romantic. I also think it's a lot easier today to do than it ever was to absolutely right? Yeah. And you don't have to do necessarily an all inclusive resort, because I think, you know, 1015, years ago, if you were going to do a destination wedding, that's what a lot of people thought of. It's like, we're going to this all inclusive resort in either, you know, South America or in the Caribbean or something like that, and you get this sort of package that's very similar to something that you would get in the States. You're kind of mirroring that. But with a destination wedding in any other destination, or, you know, Caribbean and South America have a lot to offer too, outside of a canned wedding, yeah, you can experience the culture in a different way, and the way that they do weddings. So especially now, we're seeing, like, such a huge rise in French weddings and Italian weddings for American couples. And it also can cut costs in a big way, like, Oh, for sure, if you're in the northeast, I don't know where most of your listeners are based, but everywhere. So in the northeast, it's just bonkers, astronomical. I mean, you're a Boston guy, you know it's like 100k minimum, insane. Yeah, you're talking like when all is said and done. It sounds crazy to say it, but it is true. You're talking like $1,000 a person sometimes, which

Rich: 35:40

is just astronomical. You know how many vacations?

Adriana Brauckmann: 35:44

That is many, many. And there are ways to do it, right? So I'm sure there's people who are like screaming and throwing to me. Doesn't mean like my way. Didn't cost wedding didn't cost that you there are ways to do there's both ends of that spectrum. There is yes. So I think if you are planning that traditional type wedding and you want to save costs, doing a destination wedding is the move.

Rich: 36:08

It's a really good move. I'm with you on that too. Like when this trend kind of started becoming popular and people were doing like the Caribbean and Central America or whatever, at these like, all inclusives, it just felt like the same old cookie cutter wedding, but now you just changed where the beach is. And I was like, I don't know that I love this, like, if that's your culture or that's something you really want go for it, but it felt like people were kind of doing it because they just thought it looked good and they shot on Facebook or whatever. But I'm loving this trend of people shifting to more unique destinations, like off the beaten path in Europe, or, like, you know, a friend of mine who's a flight attendant, rented a castle in France and invited like 30 people to come stay in this castle for a week, and did this whole, like, romantic thing. And I'm like, That is cool. I was just saying.

Andrew: 36:52

I have a friend who rented was planning her wedding. She rented a pub, and they had, like an outdoor space, so they were going to put the wedding in the back, in the outdoor space, and then everyone was just going to go into the pub for the it was like a 40 people wedding. So cute. She was showing me all the venues. Where was this? I think it was Ireland.

Rich: 37:14

So beautiful. Oh, my God,

Andrew: 37:16

for some conversation. And she was like, Look what I'm planning. And I was like, actually, that's amazing. I love that

Adriana Brauckmann: 37:22

people are leaning into that kind of stuff, though. It's like, your reception doesn't have to be the sit down dinner with a butler serving you bread and white glove like you can go to an Irish pub and party for people after you we

Andrew: 37:36

talked about a lot when we were getting married, we knew who we were. We knew who are people that were coming were, and what they were gonna want. So like, you know you and you know your friends, yeah, go. Plan that party selfishly. Plan it for you. Don't plan it for anyone

Adriana Brauckmann: 37:50

else, but you do. You plan you do it. You plan it for you, but you have people in mind. You do want a good guest experience, but you're not saying like, well, Aunt Rita's gonna be comfortable on a bar stool. We can't have it. Can't read I like she doesn't like it. She doesn't

Rich: 38:10

have to come. I'm sorry, Rita. We'll come over for brunch another day and make up for it. I promise about that too.

Adriana Brauckmann: 38:19

Like, just the fact that there's so much pressure on the wedding guests and, like, pleasing everyone, yeah, not only pleasing everyone, but even just to invite someone to your wedding, it's like, okay, maybe I can't even say that. No, I don't think there's anyone in my life. If they said I can't have you at my wedding for whatever reason, but I love you and like, it's it has no bearing on our relationship, I'd be like, great. Not everyone can be everywhere all the time. Like you, you have a vision for what it is. I love you. You love me. Like, why? I know that it's a big deal to pledge your love in front of everyone. Obviously, the industry, like, I think weddings are huge, yeah, but I also don't think that it makes sense that we have to invite everyone we ever knew and everyone we

Rich: 39:08

ever knew, yeah? Like, again, going back to it's your day. Like, plan what's best for you and your partner that feels like you and feels authentic. And if people are into it, great, they can come. If not, then they that's okay, what you did for you.

Adriana Brauckmann: 39:23

They don't have to be there. And if they're not happy with the way that you're doing things, then like, yeah, maybe,

Unknown: 39:28

maybe you don't belong.

Adriana Brauckmann: 39:32

You said it in a nicer way than what I was thinking,

Rich: 39:35

that's such great advice, though, is just like, focus on you at the end of the day. You know it's it's really your day. That's it. Well, we could probably talk about weddings and travel and destinations all day long. But another reason that we wanted you to come on the show today is to talk about your fear of flying. What you love about flying? We don't love about flying. And we also hear you might have some questions for us, because you're our first passenger, let's say our first passenger guest on the show that has not been a flight attendant. So we figured, why not take this opportunity pick our brain. You've got two flight attendants right here.

Adriana Brauckmann: 40:14

Ask us anything. I am so honored. I'm so excited you're gonna think I'm a freak because I really am terrified of flying, but I'm hoping you'll put some of my fears to bed. We're hoping so, but we can't make any promise. Well, you know what? I don't think you will, because some of them are just so outlandish and invalid. They're they're just yeah thoughts of a crazy person. You know what I mean? As two people who

Rich: 40:38

in the industry watch air crash investigation, like, as a hobby, you know, like bored on our layovers, like, let me see what went down with this crash, we definitely understand that we might be looking at it from a very work perspective. And. But we're gonna try

Adriana Brauckmann: 40:54

to ease your fears as best we can. Okay, all right. Well, let's get into it, because I certainly do have questions, right? So question number one, one of the first things that we do when we get on the plane, we're instructed to put our phone in airplane mode. And I've always wondered, What if I just didn't with the plane go down. Like, what's happening

Andrew: 41:18

with airplane mode? You want the real answer, yes, yes. The real answer is, your individual phone shouldn't cause that much, but it's like constantly searching. So you know, when you set your phone too close to your speaker and it makes that like crackling sound, yeah, if all of them are on and working. It causes messes with the pilots headphones. That's my

Rich: 41:38

frequency issue. So like, if all 200 people's phones are making that, like signal search noise in the pilot's ears, it could cause them to miscommunication from air traffic control, from ground crew, from operations, things like that. But with that being said. I know a lot of pilots who are like, it's not the end of the world. Yeah, the plane's like, going down as a result, as long as it's still gonna

Andrew: 42:02

fall out of the sky, if you forgot to put it on airplane mode, no, okay, but there are reasons that we ask you to do so it's a

Rich: 42:08

greater good thing. Yes, and since it is still a federal aviation regulation that we're supposed to enforce. We would like for you to follow.

Adriana Brauckmann: 42:16

I have to say, I always do it. Always put it on airplane mode, and I never purchase Wi Fi, which is crazy, but I feel like it's my one time where I'm like, 100%

Rich: 42:29

I love not share this. You can like, check out. It's the only time you can truly check out and be like, Well, I was on a flight, you know, and just like, forget about things for a minute.

Adriana Brauckmann: 42:37

And I'm also so scared that I'm like, I need a comfort show. I need gossip. Girl, yes. And the one thing I always say to passengers

Rich: 42:44

who like, give me kind of an attitude when I'm like, put your phone in airplane mode, yeah, is like, you're gonna drain your battery. It's gonna be searching for a signal the whole time, and you're gonna kill your battery anyway. But it's a win win for everyone. Just do it.

Unknown: 42:56

Just do it on it. Just don't be talking on it. Do people do that?

Adriana Brauckmann: 43:00

Yes. Can you talk on the phone and

Andrew: 43:03

no, but don't like you on it until the point it like, literally cuts

Rich: 43:08

out a stop. Yeah. As Wi Fi gets like better on airplanes, the capability is there, but it's against policy,

Adriana Brauckmann: 43:15

for sure, that important fly private. Most of them are not. They're plebeians like us. This is why we fly public. Okay? Am I allowed to say that I'm having a little champagne? Right? Sure. Great, fabulous. In honor of that, sometimes I've had a drink on a plane, and I feel like it maybe goes directly to the head a little bit more quickly than it would on the ground. Is that a fact?

Rich: 43:48

It is. It's kind of similar to how, like, you know, you go to happy hour and you're like, oh my god, I haven't eaten anything all day, a glass of wine is gonna hit you way harder. It's a similar kind of vibe. And like, the altitude really does just kind of everything heightens. Like, for example, you know, if you're sick or you have like, a headache or some sort of, like, ear ache or something like, everything's just heightened. No pun intended, yes, when you're on the plane, so it hits you harder.

Andrew: 44:14

For sure, airplane is pressurized to a certain altitude. Like, it's not like you're at 36,000 feet, but imagine being skiing and you're at the top of a mountain, like the oxygen is a little bit thinner, and things just hit you differently totally.

Adriana Brauckmann: 44:27

And it's so funny that you say that, because I feel like, anytime I watch a movie on a plane, I'm sobbing. I'm like, oh my god, this is the best movie I've ever seen, if it's a new one, and then I'll watch it later and be like, kind of sucked. I watch dear Evan Hansen for the first time on a plane, and I had never seen it on Broadway. And I'm a Ben Platt girl. Love me some Ben Platt. But I watched it. I'm like, oh so good. It was amazing. Jake. Tell my husband, like, we got to watch this movie. You're gonna love it. I sobbed. We watch it. Blend. Pat's. Ben Platt is 28 years old, playing an 18 year old crazy, like, the movie was this Dawson's Creek that sort of felt like, I just Yeah, it does something to the emotions. It does something to all the feelings. Yeah, it's good to know that there's science behind that, though. Yeah, okay, this is a serious question, because I love to get a coffee on a plane, as you guys know, to dip a coffee.

Rich: 45:26

Yes, your Stroopwafel, it's more

Adriana Brauckmann: 45:28

strip off necessary. I don't discriminate, as long as I can do a little dipping. But I've heard people say that you shouldn't get coffee or tea on an airplane, anything

Rich: 45:38

to that. Well, the thing is, you have to think about the logistics behind it. I don't want to you asked the question, there is kind of this, you know, thought that the tanks where the water is stored on. Airplanes is maybe not the most sanitary place, and people have done research on that. And some airlines clean better. Some tanks are cleaned better. But at the end of the day, it's not going to be great coffee or tea, but we're not super germaphobe people, and we feel like airplane coffee, it's not great, but if you need, like, a little something, go for it.

Unknown: 46:16

But, I mean, I clean the pot. I clean the pot before I serve coffee out of

Adriana Brauckmann: 46:20

it, so you can get it. But don't expect, you know, yeah, an incredible cup. I mean, exactly my airlines coffee, okay, good to know. So they're not all crap, okay, true or false travel insurance is a scam.

Andrew: 46:39

I have no idea. I never had it.

Rich: 46:43

We've never, ever purchased it. Yeah, and knock on wood, everything's gone. Okay, enough.

Adriana Brauckmann: 46:50

You really have to right, because you, you fly standby, and you, you know, your flight attendants be

Rich: 46:56

more reason to buy is, like that

Unknown: 46:58

hotels and like other

Rich: 47:00

things, we might not make your hotel and be like, we might not make it,

Adriana Brauckmann: 47:06

but you never do it, but we've never done and you've always been fine. I'm gonna go with, yeah, that's how I feel, too, whatever that they're like, you know, get, get the travel insurance.

Andrew: 47:14

I'm like, what was the point of buying the refundable ticket if you also need to purchase the insurance?

Adriana Brauckmann: 47:22

I love the way you say insurance. By the way people from like Tennessee and the South, they say insurance. And I'm like, insurance. Yeah, your listeners are probably like, where is this heathen from with her accent different in the Northeast? Yeah, it's ugly. Our accents are ugly. Well, Boston's cute. Actually can be yes, okay, my bag is one pound over the limit, and they're telling me I can't bring it. Okay? I've actually had this happen. It's one pound over. Like, come on, work with me here. But what is gonna happen? Like, are they fat shaming my bag? What is going on? Do not do this to me.

Rich: 48:04

Fat shaming bags. It's an epidemic. It's wrong.

Andrew: 48:09

I think what a lot of people don't understand about planes is it's all a big math equation, okay? Like each person and the like the bags that you bring onto the pain or plane are equated to a certain weight each bag. So it's not really that your bag is too big. It to where it has to go on the airplane, and how the airplane is weighted. And if they've already done that math, that one pound is important, right?

Rich: 48:34

So because they're if they're estimating your bag is, say, 50 pounds, or whatever the case may be, and you're at 52 well, what if everyone's is doing that you've now got tons of extra weight that maybe the plane can't handle, or maybe isn't factored into those final numbers? Okay, could throw things off?

Andrew: 48:50

Fair? We're not pilots, yes, we're not playing we're not the people who load the plane. So I don't have a great answer. I just know the basics behind it, that despite what everyone thinks, the plane does not go up by magic. It's the big math equation to get everybody in there.

Adriana Brauckmann: 49:06

I think for my own sanity, I have to just believe it's magic. I don't want to know how it actually happens. I think it would give me a pit I really did. Like, there's some things that I will always have questions about and I'll never so

Andrew: 49:18

the one pound affects the magic. Okay, so

Adriana Brauckmann: 49:20

let's just say it's the same thing with with airplane mode, like, Great or good, we gotta just follow the rules and follow the laws of the plane. What's the deal with overhead space? Why? Is there never enough overhead space?

Unknown: 49:36

Yeah, we would like to know,

Rich: 49:40

as flight attendants, this is, like the overhead bin space is like the bane of our existence anyway, because we deal with it all day, every day. Yeah? And people seem to have this understanding that, like, Okay, I am entitled to the space that is directly built my seat. And it's like, when you do the the math here, physically, yeah, there's what on an average plane, say, six people across, yeah, where they can't all fit directly above that row. So it's like, it becomes a puzzle. And as people you know, bring oversized bags, or whatever the case may be, it just shifts and it changes, and it sucks that, like there isn't space for every single passenger to have, like a carry on slot. Sure, it's an airplane, it's just limited space, and it's shared space, yeah?

Andrew: 50:20

And when overhead bins were created and under seat storage, there used to be 30 people on these jets, and now we've got 400 people on these jets, so they've gotten tighter. People don't want to give up their feet space, so we're putting a lot more smaller bags in overhead bins, yeah, which, you know is neither here nor there. We get what you're doing. But if everyone would put small bags like purses and backpacks under the seat, we would be able to fit more bags. Yeah, top Yeah. So it's really it's a greater good issue. You have to look out for the people around you. If you put all three of the bags that you brought on the plane in the overhead bin. There's not going to be space for very many of them. Yeah, we

Adriana Brauckmann: 50:56

as passengers really do have to look inward. And also we forget transportation. Okay, that's

Unknown: 51:04

the part that's going on Instagram. You have to look in there,

Adriana Brauckmann: 51:08

because it's public transportation. Like you can't get mad about these things. If, if you're that mad, then Buck up. Yep, fly private, or don't fly at all like no one's forcing you to do this. These are the conditions, and they're set in place for a reason. So my favorite passenger

Andrew: 51:29

would probably get an announcement over the PA about Yeah.

Adriana Brauckmann: 51:38

Okay, so you guys know I've told you I'm I'm a nervous flyer, okay? And I have no reason to be, because nothing bad has ever happened to me on a plane, and I phone a lot. For an average person, what's the likelihood of an actual emergency or, like, an emergency landing even.

Andrew: 51:55

Well, I've been flying for over 20 years. I probably take off and land somewhere between three to four times a day, and I have had one semi important event in my career, okay, okay, so that's pretty damn good. I don't want to say it's not highly likely, but if you think about the amount of planes that are in the sky at any given time and how many incidents you actually hear about, it's not, it's very slim, yeah.

Rich: 52:27

And I definitely think media plays a huge role in this too, because you know, when you look statistically at like car accidents versus aviation incidents. Aviation incidents are so few and far between that they become massive stories when they do happen. That's true, and they are usually a little more severe than your average. Like, Oh, someone bumped into somebody at an intersection. Yes. So that kind of plays into the fear aspect of people thinking, well, shoot, planes are falling out of the sky, like, now I'm terrified, right? Like, that's not happening very often, yeah,

Andrew: 53:01

say, and that's where we understand people's fear about flying, because when it does happen, it's not great, yeah? Like, it's bad, yeah, it's an understandable fear, but it's it's really not that likely to

Adriana Brauckmann: 53:14

happen, but it gets radicalized. Because when it happens, it's such it's such a big deal, that it becomes such big news, whereas, like, there's, I don't know the statistic, but probably 1000s upon 1000s of car accidents a day, and probably a lot of them unfortunately fatal. And you know, we all get behind these big death machines and drive Right exactly. You don't really think much about it, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's true. Okay, all right, that does make me feel better. Actually, has there ever been a time where either of you were legitimately scared on a flight for your safety?

Unknown: 53:47

No, no good.

Rich: 53:51

Because even in the moments like similar to Andrew, in my 13 years, I've had one incident that was potentially going to have a very bad outcome, even in those moments, like we're trained so rigorously, and we go through annual training to re qualify for things, that in those moments, there might be a split second of fear where you're like, Oh crap, what's about to happen. But your training really does kick in. You immediately start thinking about procedures that you know what you're gonna do. You start playing things out in your head of like, okay, if this happens, here's what I'm gonna do. You get into this, like, just very trained flight attendant mode, rather than fearful passenger. Okay, and that that helps shift things. So no,

Andrew: 54:35

as a mom, though, right? Like when you have someone else to take care of, you kind of forget your own stuff. It's true, and I have to take care of this. And I think as flight attendants, that's where our training really kicks in. We have, we have a job to do, we have people to take care of, and it really takes the fear

Adriana Brauckmann: 54:54

out of it. You're the moms of the flight. I honestly love that. I do look to the flight attendants, though, usually, if I'm like, if I'm feeling like, you know, I won't, I won't like, be like, help me. But you know, I'll look at their reactions. Usually, if I see them sit and buckle up, I'm like, maybe something's about to embark.

Rich: 55:17

We say that all the time. We're like, if you see the flight attendant strapped in, you need to be too, yeah, if you see us wandering around the aisle, okay, maybe you don't be as freaked out, yeah. But like, you should stay strapped in. I am the

Adriana Brauckmann: 55:28

person who stays strapped in the whole time that seat belt is on. Unless I have to be like, I am strapped in nobody to worry about little old me, because if that plane goes all over the place, I want to be in my

Andrew: 55:40

seat well. And this is where I always tell people who are nervous flyers. I don't know if this is one of your questions or I was going to close with this, but I think that if you communicate your fear to us. 90% of flight attendants are willing to pay more attention to you and walk you through what's really going on. I know I am so like, if turbulence is what you're scared of, I'll communicate with the pilot. So we have a nervous flyer give me some advanced notice on turbulence, so I can go back and, like, talk to the person and be like, Okay, here's where the turbulence is, here's how long it'll last. Like, so we can see if we can ease your fear a bit. So. And then I always also tell people all the time, like, watch your flight attendants. If I'm sitting up there, smiling, laughing, having a conversation with my co worker, it's a normal day. Yeah, yeah. If we start doing things quiet fast, that's when you should, like, get your rosary

Rich: 56:36

out yeah, there's this, there's this narrative like, out there. Now you know that we're just there to nag people, and people get frustrated by the role that we have in the job that we have to do, that they forget that. Like, we're human beings too, and in those moments, we really do want to show up for passengers, like, that's why we started this job in the first place. Yes. You know, as much as people frustrate us, we really do care about passengers. Yes. So like Andrew said, you know, come up to us, tell us what's going on. Most of us are very compassionate people and will understand, you know, even if it means just shooting the shit for a few minutes to get your mind off of, you know, whatever you're afraid of, or, you know, talking about your day like most of us are 100% down for it, yeah, as long as I'm not

Andrew: 57:18

putting food in my mind, I know you can't have any. Yeah, back the apple. My other thing is, like, unsolicited, like, part of this conversation, I feel like the passengers, while you don't understand why putting your bag fully under the seat is important? Why? You don't understand why your seat belt is important, or your tray table or your seat back? I do, yeah, and right now I don't have time to, like, argue and explain this to you. I just need you to do it so the people around you are safe in case something does go wrong, and it probably won't, yes, but when it does, we don't want you tripping on a bag handle or your seat back, blocking somebody, causing a tripping hazard, getting out of an airplane, like all of these little things, it's just like weddings. All of these little things add up to something very important to everyone else on the airplane. Yes, and for God's sake, if you ever are leaving an airplane, leave your bag. There is nothing in that bag, that is that can replace someone else's life, oh my gosh, to leave an airplane. Yes, leave the freaking bag on the plane.

Adriana Brauckmann: 58:20

Yes, yeah. I mean, would you go back for something like in a

Andrew: 58:24

fire, God forbid, like these people, like holding you see these images of people holding full suitcases while going down the slide? What if you're the idiot that pops the slide and now no one else can get off the plane because your roller bag was that important.

Adriana Brauckmann: 58:36

What do you Yeah, no, that's crazy. Nothing in your bag. Emergency situation, like, I think we as people need a little bit more, like, understanding and maybe training on what an emergency is. Yeah, and I couldn't agree with

Rich: 58:52

that more, because I feel like people, or the industry is like, afraid to scare passengers, which is totally understandable. We want to create a comforting, calming environment onboard the aircraft, but as a result, people are not connecting the dots either of what could happen. Yeah, and how those little things like making sure your bag is all the way under the seat, making sure your tray table is up, making sure it's just easy for people to get out if we need to like, it makes a huge difference. Yes, and

Adriana Brauckmann: 59:18

also, like, everyone wants to pitch and complain, but no one wants to like a quick Google search could probably tell you why it's important.

Andrew: 59:26

Yeah, I feel like you should take a cue from a flight attendant maybe watch an aviation disaster.

Adriana Brauckmann: 59:35

Oh, my God, no, I wouldn't. I would not fare well doing that. Okay, if passengers did this, flight attendants job would be a whole lot easier. Stop arguing with each other.

Unknown: 59:48

No, with us. Put your bag under the seat and put your seat belt on. Just stop arguing. Listen to mommy. Come on. If you

Andrew: 59:55

don't want to be treated like a child, don't act like one. Yeah, seatbelt on. You knew it was coming. We made a whole announcement about it.

Rich: 1:00:02

I would say my answer for that is if flight flight attendants, if passengers would acknowledge us. And I know that seems really basic, it would make things a lot better, okay? Because so often we're just like, ignored by passengers. Like, we'll say hello during boarding, and they'll look at you and just completely ignore you, and it's like, oh, okay, I guess I'm not a human being. But then five minutes later, they need something, or they're complaining about something, and it's like, if you'd come at me with, like, a little bit of a better attitude from the get go and just said Hello, good morning, or whatever, I would be way more apt to help you and be going above and beyond for you, rather than just having that transactional moment where, like you're you're on my nerves.

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:00:44

Now, don't be intimidated by the flight attendants. They're there for for you and absolutely okay. Do we have quick time for rapid fire?

Rich: 1:00:54

Yeah, we can definitely our rapid fire, yeah, oh, I was like, Do you have a wrap? Yeah? Okay, this is what happens when you get podcast hosts on. No one knows who's running the show anymore.

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:01:08

You guys are 100% running the show. I am so grateful to be a guest, but I'm just not used to it.

Rich: 1:01:14

Totally love it, because we could gab with you all day long.

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:01:16

I know I love you guys. Awesome. Before we do that.

Unknown: 1:01:18

Do you have any other burning questions for us?

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:01:20

Okay, what's, what's the best way to get on a flight attendants?

Andrew: 1:01:24

Good side, I think Rich just totally acknowledges, yeah, yeah. I mean, a lot of people bring treats, which we really love, but yeah, do you like a treat? I don't hate them, but I I say, Be unique if you're gonna do it, like we've talked about it a lot in previous episodes and things like that. But if you are gonna bring a gift, bring it out of the goodness of your heart, and not because you want to do a free upgrade or something like that. Because, I mean, a lot of the policies stop us from doing upgrades, so yeah, I mean, you'll get more attention from a flight attendant if you do it. But it but it doesn't mean that we can always give you

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:01:56

free stuff. If I had time, I was going to ask, is there, is there ever a way to get a free upgrade? But I think you just

Rich: 1:02:02

answered that it's honestly, it's not something we as flight attendants can ever give out if the seat is available. And these days flights, they're always full, the response is always full. So what are the so many hacks out there and whatever? None of it's real. I think what

Andrew: 1:02:18

people forget is that, like, even the upgraded seats are a revenue stream for our company. So like, us giving that away can be considered theft, so we can get in big trouble for, like, stealing from the company, doing from the company. So, like, I'm not saying it. It doesn't happen. Flight Attendants move people around the airplane all the time, yeah, but if you brought me a gift, I know that if we do need to move people for weight and balance or whatever, you're the person I'm coming to. So like, but then it

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:02:48

looks like bribery. So it's like, because there's no guarantee. You're never going to be able to guarantee it. And you're right, it should just put yourself

Andrew: 1:02:56

on radar. And if something happens, and we have something to give, we we go to the people who we said good morning, or Hello, or, you know, we're kind to us, yeah? And you're not going to the person that was screaming at us, right? Yeah. And it's not even

Rich: 1:03:08

just, like first class seats, like airlines that don't have it, you know, like exit rows, or, like the first row of a cabin, like, those are premium seats too. So it's the same idea. So people will see an empty exit row and say, Well, why can't I move there? And it's like, Well, again, the airline might accuse me of theft. And it's like, it's not that we're just trying to be jerks and take all the seats for ourselves, like we don't care, but we can't get in trouble for stupid stuff like that. Well, really quick.

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:03:32

What if someone just, like, pops the rear end in a seat that's not theirs. Maybe it happens to be like a premium seat. Yeah, we're aware.

Rich: 1:03:46

Don't, don't try to sneak one by on us. Adriano, it's not me. Place. Well, we can seriously talk to you all day about anything and everything. But before we go, let's do a quick lightning round of questions. We call this segment cross checked, where we ask you a series of aviation, flying, travel related questions, and see what you come up with. I love it all. Right. Question number one, window or aisle, aisle.

Andrew: 1:04:19

Okay, this is probably super aviation related. But do you like an Airbus or a Boeing? So like, do you like the Do you know the difference? Modified this

Rich: 1:04:29

for our very first passenger. Okay, big airplane, smaller plane.

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:04:34

I'm kidding, big, big I want, the bigger the better. I don't want a little plane on all fronts, the bigger the better. And to

Rich: 1:04:42

be fair, the bigger airplanes don't feel the turbulence as much, either, usually. So you're probably smart there. Okay, okay, um, hotel or Airbnb.

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:04:50

Oh, it depends on where. That's so tough, but I guess now, are me, Okay?

Unknown: 1:04:57

Favorite place you've ever traveled to?

Rich: 1:05:01

Lucerne, beautiful place. Favorite airport.

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:05:06

Oh, I you're gonna think I'm so crazy, but I love the Atlantic City airport because it's so small, oh yeah. And I just,

Unknown: 1:05:14

I love it. We love ASO. We love our friends that are totally

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:05:19

least favorite airport. Oh, the Philadelphia Airport. I'm sorry. I love you guys so much. Not the hometown. I know my favorite TSA is so mean to me, and maybe I'm doing something wrong.

Rich: 1:05:32

So your go to snack while flying peanut

Andrew: 1:05:36

ms, they have to be frozen. I do prefer them that way. Freeze them and they would last longer.

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:05:44

I yeah, I don't know if they would still be cold by the time I got Yeah, they might be like, weirdly, and then they get a little you're like, wet. Oh, so that's what I was gonna say, if you let a. Frozen peanut Eminem out in the air. You don't want that you let them out. Don't let them out. Don't let them out of your sight.

Andrew: 1:06:00

Do you have a favorite song on your travel playlist?

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:06:03

Oh, favorite song. I mean, I

Unknown: 1:06:05

or favorite current song?

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:06:07

So my all time favorite song always is tears dry on their own. By Amy Winehouse. I just, I love it,

Rich: 1:06:14

and that whole album, start to finish.

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:06:18

Yeah? Love, alright, pay. Love Amy,

Rich: 1:06:22

one item that's always in your carry on,

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:06:24

oh, an item that's always in my carry on these days. It's a burp cloth, but a little one, otherwise it would be icebreakers the cube gum. Oh, solid choice.

Andrew: 1:06:38

Solid choice. Place you've always wanted to visit.

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:06:42

Always wanted to visit Greece, and you guys inspire me so much. I really want to go. It does not disappoint. I'm so I'm gonna, I'm gonna plan the trip. I'm gonna do it.

Rich: 1:06:52

You should please do and report back.

Andrew: 1:06:54

I will. I was like, or messages, texts, give you a lot of I want to

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:06:58

come on one of your your group trips. Please do yes, aren't you? I I'm gonna talk to my husband. I really want to do it. We'll find you a babysitter. Everything absolutely Bob's will be fine. I feel

Unknown: 1:07:10

like babies are fine. Bring them to

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:07:12

well, we'll chat temperaments like, at the time. Well, Adriana,

Rich: 1:07:18

this was so much fun. Thank you so much for taking the time to come on our show. It's been a blast having you. You're welcome back anytime before we go tell everyone where they can find you. Well, first of all,

Adriana Brauckmann: 1:07:28

thank you so much. Obsessed with you guys, best show, best guys. Everyone can find me on social media. All of my handles are the underscore pre, underscore nup, the dash pre. Dash nup.com podcast is on Spotify, Apple, YouTube, all the places. So find me there the prenup, a wedding planning podcast, amazing.

Rich: 1:07:50

Love this. Go check out Adriana on all the socials. Her show is so much fun. You will not be disappointed, and obviously start with the episode with the two of us in it, because it's a blast. Thank you so much for joining us. Make sure to check out our patreon@patreon.com slash two guys on a plane for more behind the scenes content, and it's a great way to support our show.

Andrew: 1:08:09

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