"I don't need inner healing"

Amy chats with Mollie Leone about a common thing they hear people say: 

I don't need inner healing!

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Transcript

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Amy Charbonneau: Okay, well, welcome back to Department 88. And I haven't been on here for a while because I've been wanting to have authentic conversations. And so I'm with my friend Molly Leone.

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Amy Charbonneau: She also lives in Arizona, not far from where I live. And she and I get into all kinds of really fun and wild conversations. And we thought we'd bring that to you, to the here, just to inspire you. So we're going to talk about things that we hear a lot.

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Amy Charbonneau: And we'll see what the Holy Spirit brings up. So welcome, Molly.

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Mollie Leone: Thank you.

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Amy Charbonneau: Molly's a super creative woman. She has had stores. She has an entrepreneurial spirit about her, very business minded, and she's also super passionate about communication.

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Amy Charbonneau: And Molly is someone who creates safe spaces. So it doesn't matter what you believe. If you think differently than her, you come to Molly's house and you are welcome like family.

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Mollie Leone: Yep.

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Amy Charbonneau: And that's one of the things that I love about getting to meet Molly when I moved to Arizona. So, okay, Molly, today we're going to talk about the question, I'm a Christian, I don't need inner healing.

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Amy Charbonneau: So tell me your thoughts on that from your perspective before I dive in.

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Mollie Leone: Well, my very first thought is, have you been looking around on planet Earth? Like… I feel like you don't… you know, it's not… you don't even have to watch the news, and there's just chaos everywhere. And I just… I think that…

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Mollie Leone: if you take a minute to stop and think, what is fueling this chaos, you know? And ultimately.

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Mollie Leone: I believe it's broken hearts and disconnect, you know, there's a disconnect somewhere and people are, no matter what it is, whether it's just a family argument or it's

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Mollie Leone: you know, like, people fighting over different countries, all of it. It's a… it's a human disconnect. And so… to me, I'm like, how do you… where does that come from?

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Mollie Leone: And then, obviously, how do you fix it?

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Amy Charbonneau: Right!

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Mollie Leone: I mean…

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Amy Charbonneau: Aware of being aware that it's there because I agree. I look at and I don't really.

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Amy Charbonneau: judge the world as a whole much.

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Mollie Leone: Right.

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Amy Charbonneau: Get a little critical in my observations of the church specifically.

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Mollie Leone: Sure.

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Amy Charbonneau: Because the Bible has this verse that says, the world will know I love them by our love for one another. Yeah. I look at Christians, and I think we're not loving each other very well.

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Mollie Leone: Yeah, for sure.

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Amy Charbonneau: So if we're all reading the same book.

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Amy Charbonneau: And we all know these verses are in there, like 1 John 4, God is love, you know, as God is, so are we in the world. Like, we're supposed to embody and be this love that's like a magnet, drawing people to the love of God.

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Mollie Leone: Yes.

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Amy Charbonneau: Yet here we are divisive over any and everything that we can argue.

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Mollie Leone: human.

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Amy Charbonneau: You know.

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Mollie Leone: Yeah, and I think that brings us back, we had talked earlier, just talking about how…

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Mollie Leone: It's hard, it's very difficult to have an open and honest conversation if both people are not somewhat

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Mollie Leone: or a lot, secure in themselves. And so, the only way that you can start to become secure with yourself, I believe, is through doing inner healing, and it's not like this, like, weird, you know,

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Mollie Leone: I don't know, like, people have all sorts of thoughts and ideas of what inner healing looks like. You have to smoke this, or you have to go to this hut, or you have to, you know, chant this 12 times, or, I mean, I know I'm being a little bit silly here, but at the same time, like, that's actually real, and so.

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Mollie Leone: to me, I just… my journey has just been very simple, and it really just started with asking God to… to help me, and then just trusting that, and it's… it's been…

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Mollie Leone: gosh, it's probably been almost 10 years ago that I started into this journey, but

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Mollie Leone: has just been so good to put the right people in my path at the right time. Yeah. And it just is… it's crazy how…

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Mollie Leone: This person here helped me. It's, you know, it's like going up the stairs. It's just, they helped me on the first step and I, you know, if it's, if there's 20 stairs, I couldn't see all the stairs and thank God I didn't.

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Amy Charbonneau: Because…

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Mollie Leone: I never would have started. But the beauty of that is that I was able to just do the first step. And then I was like, oh, that's not as scary as I thought it was going to be. Because I remember the first situation that I started was…

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Mollie Leone: inner healing was with my mom. And it was around, like, overeating, and…

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Mollie Leone: She grew up in this culture where you just, you had to be thin, and you know, just, what do people think, and all this stuff. And so here I am as a teenager, I played sports, I was very active, I'd come home after practice, 3 hours of practice.

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Mollie Leone: and she'd make, like, some noodle casserole or something, and I would want a second helping.

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Mollie Leone: And she would be like, do you really think you need that? Well, I didn't need it. But guess what? Now, as a 13-year-old, you better believe I'm taking two more helpings. And so dysfunction, right?

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Mollie Leone: and… and I'm just… I do have a point to this, but I'm just saying, so this is… this was a scenario that then played out for years, so then in my mid-30s, I'm like.

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Mollie Leone: if I ever want to get my weight and my… how I look at myself under control, I gotta start here. Like, this is where I… this is… if I peel all the layers back, this is the first thing that I can think of where this started.

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Mollie Leone: And so, I did. I actually just had a conversation with my mom. I asked her if we could talk about it, and she was gracious and kind enough that we did. Obviously, not all people have that.

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Mollie Leone: you know, the beauty of that, but and we forgave each other, and we, you know, we cried, and she explained to me where she was coming from, and so I was able to understand

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Mollie Leone: her heart and that it was not she really was just she didn't want me to go through some of the things she had gone through and so she was trying to protect me and her heart was right but her motive was wrong and so that was the start of my healing journey

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Mollie Leone: why I'm telling you that story is I realized it wasn't as scary as I thought it was going to be.

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Amy Charbonneau: Okay.

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Mollie Leone: And it was not as painful, and it wasn't… I think a lot of times people, they say they don't believe in it, but the reason why is because they're afraid to open the door, because they're afraid of the pain.

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Amy Charbonneau: 100%.

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Mollie Leone: And so when the beauty of it's just step by step, I believe that God loves us so much. He's not like, we're gonna rip off every single bandaid at the same time. You know, like he doesn't do, he's like, oh, we're gonna start, you know, those little tiny bandaids. He's like, we're not gonna do those big ones that have like the, you know, the gauze bandage. No, we're just gonna do like the pinky size one.

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Mollie Leone: we'll just take one of those off. And so, you just slowly and gently Start this process.

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Mollie Leone: So.

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Amy Charbonneau: And as I'm listening to you, there's so many components in there because.

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Amy Charbonneau: I think, when I started also about 10 years ago, I thought, okay, one prayer, I'm good.

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Mollie Leone: It's It's gonna fix everything in your whole life?

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Amy Charbonneau: I'm gonna cry once, I'm gonna pray, I'm gonna rebuke demons, I'm going to declare things, and I'm gonna be done forever.

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Amy Charbonneau: And that has not been the case, you know? And so, little by little, God, like, I love the little band-aids, you know, little by little. Yeah. But I think there's a couple things coming to mind,

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Amy Charbonneau: One is that our, like, the way our bodies are designed, you know, and so we had talked about getting into creation and that, and I think we'll get there eventually, but, we're created to handle an amount of stress.

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Amy Charbonneau: But when we have lots of stress, and in our modern world, I mean, most people live in complete stress all the time, and they're so familiar and comfortable with it, they don't even know that they're stressed. Like, 95% of people that get a stress test say they're not stressed, but yet they tell us that they are.

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Mollie Leone: Yes.

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Amy Charbonneau: Weight variability doesn't lie, and so we're all under this great amount of stress, so that means the body just begins to stuff, stuff, stuff, can't deal with that, can't deal with that, can't deal with that, because we've got to make it through the day. I might die if I, you know, and I have to be on high alert, so we're always on high alert, so then we don't deal with it. And then those things…

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Amy Charbonneau: Actually get trapped in our bodies and then if we never deal with it like our parents if they didn't learn nobody taught them or told them.

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Mollie Leone: Yeah.

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Amy Charbonneau: Then they pass it on to us in cellular biology, you know, so that is cellular science, and there's amazing resources out there about.

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Mollie Leone: Yeah.

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Amy Charbonneau: cellular transfer of memories, you know, and then we create things, you know, based off these, we create these beliefs, you know, so if your mom in this scenario had a belief that you.

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Mollie Leone: Yeah.

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Amy Charbonneau: too much, and then you're not pretty enough, thin enough, good enough, whatever, you know, and you, that imprints on you because you're starving because you're an athlete, and you're like, I'm gonna eat, and then you're, you know, having whatever rebellion, oh, my mom, I'm fat because she's telling me not to eat, maybe I shouldn't eat

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Amy Charbonneau: Then we carry that into adulthood. So we form these stories and these imaginations that we have. And I think this is the powerful part of inner healing is.

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Amy Charbonneau: A lot of people will say we shouldn't use our imagination, right?

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Mollie Leone: That's one idea.

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Amy Charbonneau: That's one idea. And that's what memory is, basically.

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Mollie Leone: In general.

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Amy Charbonneau: are just trauma frequencies, emotional frequencies trapped in our body that we give pictures to to create meaning and understanding.

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Amy Charbonneau: And so if I don't use my imagination for good, well, I'm definitely using it for bad because I'm using it to remember every wrong that's been committed against me, every negative thing. And I get in these cycles and dwelling on that. And that, like when you said people are afraid, I think it's true because our bodies are literally created to keep us safe in the familiar.

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Mollie Leone: Yeah.

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Amy Charbonneau: You know, and so then to go outside what's familiar is terrifying, you know, from a ancient civilization way, as far as if I leave my community, I might get eaten by a tiger. Yeah.

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Mollie Leone: Right, right.

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Amy Charbonneau: That's not the world we live in, but we're gonna get eaten alive by our own thinking.

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Mollie Leone: Yeah.

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Amy Charbonneau: Yes.

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Amy Charbonneau: You know, and so I love that your your example talks about one overcoming the fear by being brave enough to have a conversation.

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Amy Charbonneau: Mom, this is on my mind. Can we just have a conversation?

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Mollie Leone: about it.

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Amy Charbonneau: I mean, that's so beautiful. That's Matthew 18.

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Mollie Leone: When you're.

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Amy Charbonneau: brother, like to just have a conversation, this spirit of reconciliation, that we're ambassadors of reconciliation.

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Mollie Leone: Okay.

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Amy Charbonneau: Corinthians 5. You know these. This ministry to reconcile is so powerful, and like that unique thing that

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Amy Charbonneau: people of God get to carry and walk in if they're willing. So you did that, you modeled that, you just brought it up, this is what I remember, and then she could say what she remembered and why she thought that. And we get to get it all out on the table, because then what happens is not just buried in our subconscious.

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Amy Charbonneau: tormenting us. Now we get to say, oh, well, that's ridiculous, because now the logical mind can get involved, you know, and you can have a rational conversation and forgiveness.

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Mollie Leone: Yes.

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Amy Charbonneau: You mentioned forgiveness, which is the spiritual component, you know. Then you mentioned well, and I guess we should talk about that like this is from one of the 1st or 2nd Thessalonians, where it says that we are a spirit, soul, body.

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Amy Charbonneau: And if you do some word studies on Greek and Hebrew to understand the differences, because a lot of people think spirit and soul's the same.

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Amy Charbonneau: And they're different. And this is why when we talk about a relationship with God and our authority in the spiritual places, that spiritual component, you know, and so then the understanding the hierarchy of the spirit, that's all a piece that has its, like, its lane. And then we come to the soul and the body.

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Amy Charbonneau: So yeah, I love that that your your story gives so many examples of how inner healing unfolds, and it does require courage.

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Mollie Leone: Yeah.

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Mollie Leone: Yeah, it does. I want to, as you went, as you were talking, and you talked about using our imagination, so, so I want to fast forward 10 years forward to now, right? And I want to get, can I give an example?

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Amy Charbonneau: Absolutely.

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Mollie Leone: Okay, so, it was probably, like, January, February, I was just… I had some stuff going on, and I'm like, I don't… I'm not liking… it was, how I was interacting with, my daughter. Oh, excuse me.

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Mollie Leone: I'm so sorry, Amy, you'll have to cut that part out.

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Amy Charbonneau: Yes.

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Mollie Leone: Can you edit that?

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Amy Charbonneau: Hopefully.

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Mollie Leone: Okay, I'm so sorry. Okay.

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Amy Charbonneau: Oh, wow. This is real. This is real.

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Mollie Leone: Sorry, technology, I'm using my phone, I'm so sorry.

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Mollie Leone: And so, anyways, so I, I have a counselor that's just like Amy, they do… they're very similar in styles and modalities and all that. And so I met with her, and we worked through,

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Mollie Leone: a couple of some trapped emotions, and one of them came, it was shock.

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Mollie Leone: And I'm not, I don't need to take the time to go into all the details, but what that had, what we did was I used my imagination partnering with asking God, asking Jesus to be in that moment with me and went back to a memory of, a motherhood moment. And in that moment I saw like a.

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Mollie Leone: like a 6x6 beam, this huge square beam, come and hit me across the midsection. And as that beam hit me, I literally saw my physical heart come out of my body and land on the floor.

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Mollie Leone: So this is the imagination part. I'm asking Jesus to help me understand where did this shot come from? Right.

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Amy Charbonneau: Right, right.

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Mollie Leone: So,

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Mollie Leone: it there's more like it as I spent more time with the Lord trying to figure this out and the roots there it did go back farther but this was the main this is where we were dealing with this day this was one of those steps it was the safe next step to go up on to work on more healing and so

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Mollie Leone: So…

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Mollie Leone: through just processing that, this beautiful situation unfolds where Jesus picks up my heart off the floor and gives it back to me, and we put it back in.

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Mollie Leone: And so then I learned these steps that now anytime I start to feel stressed or I'm like, like shock or anything, something happens, someone cuts you off or you get a text message and you're like, what are they saying? That tone, I'm not sure if they're happy or mad. All these things, silly things, big things, car accident, whatever.

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Mollie Leone: I put my hand on my heart and I'm like, my heart is intact. I have my heart and I'm safe. And Jesus helped. Jesus holds my heart inside me. I am safe now.

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Amy Charbonneau: Yes.

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Mollie Leone: And I do this physically and say it out loud. So.

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Mollie Leone: that started kind of that process of learning all that. It was like January, February. Well, now we fast forward to June, and I had my annual blood work and my heart checkup and everything, and

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Mollie Leone: We have not… I need to preface this that, I do… I do take a blood pressure medication, but it's been the same for about 2 years. I have not changed any vitamins, I have not changed any medication, nothing in over a year.

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Mollie Leone: So… In…

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Mollie Leone: I'll just tell you this. So I go in, like, the second week of June, get my blood done, and the last time I had it done was in March. So now I'm getting it done.

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Mollie Leone: When I go back in a week later for my follow up, my doctor says, well, I saved the best news for last. And I was like, oh, what's that? And she showed me my heart numbers.

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Mollie Leone: And I'm… I'm not a doctor, so I don't understand how all of it works, but she showed me how there's this… cardiovascular health is ranked, and, like, prime, you're perfect, no problem, is .9.

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Mollie Leone: Okay. Well, mine was 1.1.

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Mollie Leone: So, she's like, this is beautiful. And she goes, but here's what you need to know.

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Mollie Leone: Back at the beginning of the year, you were at 8.0.

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Amy Charbonneau: Woof, girl.

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Mollie Leone: So my heart, she's like, you were like going to die. And I just.

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Mollie Leone: I didn't… in the physical world, in this medical world, I haven't changed anything. So there's not something that changed that.

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Mollie Leone: So, when people say, do I need inner healing?

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Mollie Leone: I mean, it literally saved my life. Right. Because I got my heart back. My heart is is I'm it's not.

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Mollie Leone: I mean, it's healed. Obviously, I'm still in the process of doing more healing. I haven't arrived. I guess that's what I should say, is I haven't arrived at completion. But my heart is…

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Mollie Leone: 1,000 times better than it was to go from 8.0 I would have died of a massive heart attack and soon I'm only 46 years old I have so much life to live like I that's not what I want and I went so 8.0 to 1.1.

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Amy Charbonneau: Wow.

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Mollie Leone: The only thing that I have done is heart work.

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Mollie Leone: So it just is such a what, you know, it just when you say, should we do it? Well, I don't know. Do you want to die or do you want to live? I mean.

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Amy Charbonneau: Yes, yes. And I love that because what medicine is testing for is really like these machines and EKG, EEG, all these machines, they're testing frequencies.

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Amy Charbonneau: And stress is creating dis-ease in the body because of these, it lowers our frequency.

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Amy Charbonneau: And then when we add negative emotions on top of that, like, there's a Dr. Hawkins that has a book, Power Versus Force, and shame is, like, the lowest, and then, like, love, and peace, and joy, and divine enlightenment are way up here. Yeah.

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Amy Charbonneau: Frequency, you know.

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Amy Charbonneau: hurts, or whatever you want to call it. And I think when we allow stressful situations to go unaddressed.

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Amy Charbonneau: We allow the pain of our past, and

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Amy Charbonneau: I'm not even talking about the pain like that we

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Amy Charbonneau: legitimately caused, you know, like, where we were jerks, and we got in heated debates, or we made dumb choices, you know. Yes, there's that.

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Amy Charbonneau: But I'm talking about the things that are beyond our control, the things that we inherited in cellular memory, the things that were imprinted on us because from conception to like six, seven years old.

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Mollie Leone: Mmm.

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Amy Charbonneau: Our brains don't even know that everything going on isn't true.

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Amy Charbonneau: You know, so everything that happens, everything we hear, see, experience, feel is imprinted as fact.

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Amy Charbonneau: And so if a baby, like from the womb, you know, think about how many.

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Amy Charbonneau: Moms go through a lot of emotion when they're pregnant.

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Mollie Leone: Yeah?

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Amy Charbonneau: That gets transferred to the baby. If she's questioning, I don't wanna be a mom, I'm not gonna be a good mom, that gets transferred to the baby. You know, you come out and they don't have enough money and they don't have whatever, you know, and there's stress about raising a child that gets imprinted on the baby.

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Mollie Leone: Thank you.

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Amy Charbonneau: And so those things just get transferred without any of us thinking about it. We're not aware. This is just the way it works because of creation, you know? And so…

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Amy Charbonneau: I think about those things get trapped in us, and then over time our own dumb stuff added onto it, or how people who are also trapped in their own dumb stuff.

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Amy Charbonneau: interact with us, and then we're hurt because they're hurt, because hurt people hurt people. Yeah. Yeah. Just take it on, and then we just stuff it, because

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Amy Charbonneau: How many of us heard when we were kids, oh, suck it up, buttercup, and don't cry, don't be a crybaby, you're a big wuss, you know, whatever those statements are that were in your family or your school environment. Those things taught us to have emotions isn't safe.

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Mollie Leone: Right.

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Amy Charbonneau: them, we never learned how. And so we stuffed it, and all of it's trapped inside, causing us to literally not be healthy.

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Mollie Leone: Yeah, I.

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Amy Charbonneau: So when we think about healing the body, we have to address the soul, you know, we have to address the spiritual pieces. And so your testimony is just proof, Molly, and I just.

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Mollie Leone: Yes.

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Amy Charbonneau: So much!

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Mollie Leone: Yeah!

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Amy Charbonneau: I'm glad that your heart gets to be strong.

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Mollie Leone: I know, I know, and it's great, like, it wasn't…

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Mollie Leone: the thing that I love so much is I wasn't, like, God, heal my heart. Like, that… I never… I mean, obviously, I do ask God to heal my heart, just in general. It's just a prayer, but I didn't know my heart needed that much healing. You know, I didn't… I didn't know it was so bad, and so,

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Mollie Leone: It just, it was like, I don't know.

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Mollie Leone: Just a byproduct that saved my life.

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Amy Charbonneau: Yeah, okay.

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Mollie Leone: Which seems so flippant to say it like that, but at the same time, I'm like, I just wanted to be free of

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Mollie Leone: this shock, and just, like, always being like, like, I just felt like that's how I lived my life, was just like, like, everything was a surprise, and I'm just like, I don't want to live like this, yeah. And so, working that out.

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Mollie Leone: It's just… it's amazing. And so, I just have so much peace.

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Amy Charbonneau: Amen. That's.

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Mollie Leone: I just know my heart is intact.

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Amy Charbonneau: Yay.

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Mollie Leone: And I'm safe, and I'm gonna live a really long, amazing life.

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Amy Charbonneau: Amen! And that's like John 16, where Jesus said, the Holy Spirit would guide you into all truth. He literally guided you, you know, through this whole journey so far. Yeah, so we know He'll continue. He's guided you to the things you needed when you needed them, even when you didn't know you needed them.

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Mollie Leone: Oh my gosh.

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Amy Charbonneau: No.

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Amy Charbonneau: He knew the state of your physical heart, and he's like, oh, daughter, I need you over here, you know, visiting with this person so she can help you get rid of this thing that's causing this to not work right.

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Mollie Leone: But what's amazing, Amy, is I don't… I could never have started with this. Like, this one was… it was… it took me about…

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Mollie Leone: it probably was a good two to three weeks because there was so many layers to this shock and there was so many like I have almost a whole notebook full of journaling things of memories that the Lord would bring back and he's like this was a shock this was a shock and then just continually going back and back till I got to that very first time when he showed me this is where it started

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Mollie Leone: And, you know.

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Mollie Leone: it was a process, but… and there's, like I said, there's no way I could have started

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Mollie Leone: at that healing I had to start with something so simple as like you know Mom you used to really make me mad and then I would eat more just to make you mad you know like and so it's just it's so he it's just the love of God that he just is so generous you know this this one was a huge massive

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Mollie Leone: Like big gauze band-aid, you know, that was like.

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Mollie Leone: ripping it off. And so… but I knew from all the little ones all along the way that I was safe. Like, it's safe to do this. I'm gonna be okay, and I know the peace that comes after is so worth it that I'm gonna do the work to be able to get it.

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Amy Charbonneau: Amen. Well, thank you for being so.

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Mollie Leone: Yes!

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Amy Charbonneau: terrible about it. So we're gonna, end this episode, and we're gonna record another one to talk about love, because I think with what Molly brought up, I want to dive into the love of our Father for us.

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Amy Charbonneau: And then that constantly motivates him to intervene in our lives, you know, in a variety of ways.

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Amy Charbonneau: We'll talk about the love of God in the next one. So thank you so much for listening. We would love for you to comment if you have any questions and feel free to check the links in the description below the podcast if you need support in your own healing journey. Thank you so much and bye for now.