Business Unscripted - Triumph Business Solutions

Managing Your Calendar, Not Letting It Manage You: A Business Owner's Guide

• Triumph Business Solutions • Episode 4

Share episode

Time isn't just money for business owners—it's the difference between spinning your wheels and genuine growth. When entrepreneurs say they "don't have enough hours in the day," they're often missing a fundamental problem: not understanding where their time actually goes.

Dave opens this episode by sharing impressive results from his LinkedIn newsletter experiment—220 subscribers in just eight days with zero paid promotion. He walks through how LinkedIn's feature automatically emails subscribers and sends push notifications about new content, creating free exposure for your expertise. For business owners already creating content elsewhere, this represents a significant opportunity with minimal additional effort.

The heart of the episode reveals Dave's three-step system for mastering time management. First, conduct a comprehensive time study for one week, tracking your activities from morning until night. This exercise often reveals shocking amounts of "dead time"—hours spent on activities that don't contribute to business growth. The second step involves prioritizing tasks based on their potential impact. As Dave explains, "Easy tasks are easy because they're not important." Many entrepreneurs gravitate toward comfortable busy work instead of uncomfortable growth-generating activities.

Finally, Dave emphasizes taking control of your calendar instead of letting it manage you. He recommends blocking specific time periods for different activities and limiting when meetings can be scheduled. He shares how he uses Motion, an AI-driven calendar tool that automatically schedules tasks based on priorities and deadlines, ensuring every available time slot is optimized.

What makes this approach powerful is its simplicity and its focus on implementation. Whether you use pen and paper or sophisticated AI tools, understanding where your time goes, prioritizing meaningful work, and managing your calendar proactively can transform your productivity and accelerate your business growth. Ready to reclaim control of your time? Start with these three steps today.

Send us a text

Dave:

Thank you, hey. Hey everyone, it's Dave here. We're here for episode four of the Business Unscripted Podcast, where obviously it's just me. Today there's no Dwarin, as you can see, as as the um. Well, the unscripted part of the show has kicked in already.

Dave:

Uh, dwarin has had some internet issues so he's unable to join me this morning. So you just get me, um, and hopefully that's good enough, um, but so today what we wanted to kind of jump in and uh talk about is I was kind of thinking, is we want to do an overview? You know, at the end of last episode, uh, you know, dwan and I were doing an overview of the newsletter feature in linkedin and how things were going. You know, uh, if we saw kind of like an increase of impressions over the last seven days, uh, how the newsletter subscribers have been going. So we'll have to wait for next week to hear Dwarne's, but I can kind of give you kind of my first seven day results and what I've seen, you know, from the newsletter, and obviously it's something that will continue to be a strategy moving forward. We'll continue to post the articles, we'll continue to add value and we will also my strategy is to add a second newsletter that is more related to strategy, education, things in the financial realm, business development, et cetera.

Dave:

The first one was kind of a passion. I guess we'll call it a passion project newsletter because it was fun to do. I love watching individuals' educational content and I know a lot of people would love to do it too, to get things out of it and don't have the time to do it. So that's why the first newsletter that I created was breaking down the videos into actionable steps in a way where the reader can get that information in under five minutes. And then I was trying to think of a topic and you know, the first thing that really kind of sticks out to me is especially for a business owner, is like time management, and I've kind of given you know kind of where I was and the strategies that I'm using now to kind of manage my time throughout the day, but also ways that you can improve in conversations that I've had. And then who knows how long that's going to take. It's the unscripted part. If we get to some other things at the end, at the end of the show, great. If you're watching, as always, if you have a question or if you have a thought, you can drop it in the comments. I will answer them live and I always encourage you know whether it's me, dwarne or anybody else we're going to have on the podcast in the future always encourage participation and we want to make sure that we're giving you all the information that you have in the moment that you're watching. So give me one second. Allergies are kicking my butt. It is a springtime here in Cleveland, all right.

Dave:

So first to start off newsletter. So what I wanted to do is we'll kind of go over this here real quick. Let me pull up my screen and let's go over to here. So what you'll see in the first week. So last week I had 690 post impressions, which was up 71%. And let's go over to here. So what you'll see in the first week. So last week I had 690 post impressions, which was up 71% from prior postings. I also gained about two and a half more followers, so I'm up to just shy of 2000.

Dave:

What you'll notice down here is the newsletter subscribers. Right, I have 79 in the last seven days, but remember that's Friday to Friday, the first day that I launched, I had a. You know, in that Thursday I had a significant amount and I'll pull that up here to kind of show you how many total I have. I think it's right around 220, if I believe total in the last like eight days. So from zero to 220 in eight days is a pretty significant kind of jump. And then the newsletter article views is another one. That that's an interesting kind of you know topic. Here is 603 people actually opened one of the posts that I had done every day. So I went through and I posted every single day from, you know, last Thursday to to today, and I've scheduled an out, you know, for the next couple of days.

Dave:

And if you're looking and you're like, hey, how do I do my own newsletter? Well, as we said before, you want to go into kind of your profile and how you're going to get access to this is you're going to go right here where it says write article and what that's going to do is I went actually too far. So if you click write article this is just an article that if you don't have a newsletter, going to go right to your page, right, just right to your profile. But if you come up here under manage and I'm going to give more credit for this, for showing me how to do it. So, thanks, warren. Under newsletter, you know, if you have one, it'll list it. Otherwise you can hit create a new newsletter or create newsletter and then anything you're going to do.

Dave:

Anytime you want to run a post, anytime you want to run an article for your newsletter, you just come in here, you know, click the newsletter, make sure that you know you're clicked in Now if you want to see actual information about your newsletter. There may be an easier way, but how I've done is I've gone to my profile and I just scroll down to featured and your newsletter gets featured right here on your profile for everybody to see. Whoever comes to your profile will be able to see that. So in this case, yeah, 218 subscribers in eight days. But what you could also do is, again, linkedin kind of gives you some additional analytics, as you can see, every single article that you posted.

Dave:

Okay, as you're seeing, I'm getting you know for just starting out, the engagement for these is actually pretty good for free, right? I'm not boosting any of these, I'm not paying for any article you know to get sent out. And what is truly an interesting thing that we found out and I've seen since last conversation is LinkedIn actually will email your subscribers and say, hey, by the way, here's a new article from Dave with X newsletter, right. Here's a new article with Duarte. And if they have their push notifications, it'll even send out that LinkedIn push notification to them saying, hey, here's the newest release, or here's something new from Dave and his newsletter and Growth Tactics Weekly, right. So the benefit there is that you're getting all this exposure for your name, for yourself, for your newsletter, and you're not paying for it. Linkedin is doing all that for you. So they're really pushing this feature and so you can jump on the bandwagon early and be kind of an early adopter and really make a benefit for your network as well as for your expertise building, which is a big thing social proof and building your expertise and the beauty that every one of these articles.

Dave:

So if you want to click in, you can actually get some additional information. So let's go here to the one that I posted a couple days ago about AI coming to you, and it's going to be here Up at the top. You can see different stats about the post, you can see your comments. So up here when it loads, if it loads here in a second, it's being slow, typical computers You'd think it was a Monday, but you'll actually be able to see how many people were. You know how many impressions you got on that one article, how many people were reached, how many people actually viewed the article and how many actual emails were sent out and then what the open rate was from your emails. So, just like you may be sending out a typical newsletter within like Ohio Level to like your entire email list, you can also then take that and duplicate it into LinkedIn so that you can begin to get that information out to LinkedIn in another medium.

Dave:

I actually had this conversation with a prospect friend connection of mine who is a bookkeeper, who is doing a newsletter right now manually through like go high level or their email software, and I mentioned the newsletter feature tour and it's simple because you're already doing all the work. You don't have to try it. If you're doing a once a week, you know newsletter, you have to. You know newsletter, you have to you know go back and recreate the wheel per se. You can literally take what you are already doing and duplicate it into a newsletter fashion within LinkedIn and it's a great way for you to really begin to increase your awareness. Okay, begin to increase your awareness, okay, so go ahead and try it.

Dave:

If you have any questions about it, like I got, I encourage you to kind of reach out. We're still playing through. You know. That's kind of the point of the podcast is that we're sharing with strategies and things that we're doing in real time with you so that you can learn with us, but also we're going to talk about, like things in the past that we're about to get into, that we've done, we've explored, we've kind of struggled with and what we've done to overcome those things. So if you have any questions about the LinkedIn newsletter, you know reach out, we'll kind of point you in the right direction. But it's fairly point and click, like LinkedIn does a. You know we'll give LinkedIn credit there. It does a good job of making it simple, really making it simple for you know, the user to you know populate that.

Dave:

So when I was thinking of topics kind of rolling into the live part and not the accountability part of our session, I was trying to think of what do I want to talk about today? Again, we don't script our episodes here. It's more like what we're going through and ways to improve. So today what I was thinking is. You know, a couple conversations that I've had recently have been about the time management piece and not having enough hours in a day. At least. It made it that people were seeming like they didn't have enough hours in a day to accomplish everything that they needed to do, or that we were kind of advising them to do.

Dave:

And really what this comes down to is one you have to understand where your time is going. Have to understand where your time is going. Far too often I have seen with clients and other prospects or team members of mine that I've been in charge of. You know what it comes down to is not knowing what you're doing on a regular basis. So a time study, but then, once you understand it, not having a proper priority system to understand like what's important, like what is like the end, all be all today, and then what can be pushed off for later. And then the third piece of this is truly using your calendar and you managing it, versus letting your time and your calendar sort of manage you. And so we'll get into each one of these three, three.

Dave:

So first you know, a time study. If you're wondering what, what is a time study? How to do a time study it's. It's truly broken down into something simple like this take a piece of paper for a week and, from the moment you get up until the moment you go to bed in blocks, document what you were doing. So as simple as seven to eight. I get up, right. I got up, brushed my teeth, got ready for the day, started making coffee All right, perfect. I got up, brushed my teeth, got ready for the day, started making coffee All right, perfect. From 8 to 10,. You know, got in, checked. You know my emails. You know, started getting ready for the day, planning the day, checked my calendar Okay, great.

Dave:

Now one thing that I would ask you to do is like checking emails. That is something that I think a lot of people get caught up in because it can pull you away from your day-to-day activities, like you could be productive as hell right now. But if you have like your email notification turned on or you have like your text messages, you know notification turned on on your computer. Where you get the notification? You know I use Apple, so it pops up in the top right, right. You could be in the middle of something that is like you're really rocking it, you're killing it, and you see that notification and it completely pulls you away. So my suggestion is turn off notifications throughout the day so that you're not being distracted, especially if, when you're doing your time study, you're finding out that, like when you add everything up, you're spending like 20% of your day like responding to emails, responding to texts. Now there's a difference if they're like client servicing emails or if it's just like opening up emails, deleting old ones, or you're checking like spam folders and different things like that which a lot of people do, or checking spam folders and different things like that which a lot of people do.

Dave:

So block out what you do throughout the day. Be specific. Like you spent, like, say, you're blocking out the 9 to 10 hour or 9 to 11 hour. Be specific. Okay, I spent about 20, 25 minutes checking emails. I spent another 20 to 25 minutes reviewing the schedule planning for the day, and then I really got into my first meeting at 10 am or whatever it ends up being. But then do that all the way till the evening. So, like, even put down, you know the even go out there and put like all right, from five to six I cook dinner. Six to seven you know eight dinner with the family cleaned up, did dishes, got ready, you know, for the evening, and then from cleaned up, did dishes, got ready for the evening and then, from seven to nine, watched the show and then, from nine to 9.30, got ready for bed and then went to bed.

Dave:

Because what you're going to be able to find once you do this for a week and you start looking back and you say, okay, well, here's all this dead time. And what do I mean by dead time? Make it hard for some of you to hear, but dead time, when you're a business owner, is time that you're not doing anything as an entrepreneur for your business, and some of that stuff may be important to you. So maybe it's like Jim, every single day is an hour. Well, I call that dead time, but it's something that's important to you with your health. So I wouldn't advise you to kind of take that dead time away. But what you may find is that every night you're sitting at the TV or you're scrolling Facebook or you're looking at YouTube for two hours every night.

Dave:

Well, that to me is dead time. That is, eight to 12 hours a week that you are doing nothing for your business. You could be having a conversation with somebody on social media. You could be creating some email campaigns that you want to send out. You could be thinking about the offers that you want to make. You could be following up on your emails on this time instead of throughout the day. So do something for your business every single time that you can, and don't consider dead time. Don't maximize your dead time. Minimize your dead time. So save it for the weekend, and even then, when you're a business owner, you don't have weekends. So what are you doing on the weekend? So do that for literally do a time study for seven days, from Monday to Sunday. Really track out, from sunup to sundown, where are you spending your time. And if pen and paper is too difficult, you know we all got our phones. You know use the notepad on your phone, right? Just make a quick note, type up all right, I'm about to start this project and then, when you're done with it, end it.

Dave:

If you're a little bit more technology savvy, there is a free app for like Chrome or your computer. It's called Clockify. You start the timer when you start a project, you type in what you're doing and then you stop it and then you go to the next one and then you start it and stop it. You can do a free account there, track your. And then you go to the next one and you start it and stop it. You can do a free account there. Track your time for an entire week, see where you're spending your time.

Dave:

That's step one is doing a time study. Find out where are you spending your time. Step two, with your time, is understanding. Once you've identified that is how to prioritize your tasks, what do you have to do throughout a day? Like, what are you using to manage your tasks? Do you have a to-do list? Do you have like it written down? And how do you then manage your priorities? So, do you have like a high, low, medium, kind of priority tasking?

Dave:

And for me, how I put this priority is I at least want to spend and I follow Alex from OZNS like I at least want to try to spend like 100 minutes a day on outreach. So, whether that's to warm network, cold network, like I want to spend 100 minutes a day. Now there are days where it just doesn't work. Um, but I need to do better and that's why I have this, you know, kind of platform here is to you know, talk about these, but then also let you know like, hey, these are what I'm supposed to be doing, but I'm just like you, I'm human. There's going to be times where we're going to fall behind or you know it's not going to happen for that day because we we back-to-back meetings with clients and sometimes that 100 minutes doesn't fit in, and then you've got kids' baseball games and by the end of the day you have dinner.

Dave:

So you have to set something for yourself, a goal. And a goal just because it's not attained doesn't mean you suck, give yourself some leeway. But so set your priorities. So for me, that's a big priority for me. So any open time I manage with right, I put out there and I um that I want to do at least a hundred minutes on outreach. Then I look at my client tasks, like what's coming up. Like, for example, it's coming up on tax season. So I have taxes I need to wrap up, I need taxes I need to finalize for people. So that's top of priority list. So essentially, when I go and I well and we'll talk about managing your calendar when I go to create my list for the day or my tasks for the day, those things are marked higher than anything else as well as and we're going to talk about this in a second like actually going through your calendar and blocking it out, but think through like what, what, what and how do you prioritize? That's important. That's step two, right? If you're not doing anything, you're just kind of picking what's easiest, right? Sometimes what's easiest is not what's important, it's easy because it's not important.

Dave:

Easy tasks or these tasks that aren't leading to new client acquisition or new outreaches or new conversations or uncomfortable situations. We're always, as a default, going to go back and find ourselves doing the easy stuff just because it's there, and what that does is it becomes a time waster because you're spending all your time doing this easy stuff. That doesn't lead you to new business, it doesn't lead you to have new conversations, but you feel like you're being productive. And then you turn around at the end of the month and be like well, what did I do? Why did I not have any new clients? Well, because and I'll use a bookkeeping example If you're a bookkeeper and you manage and you can categorize your client let's say a client or two clients every month but you spend time every single week doing it, unless you promise to them that you're gonna have their stuff done weekly because that's the package they're paying for.

Dave:

You're spending too much time doing their stuff Because at the end of the month you can spend an extra 20 minutes to categorize the entire month, instead of spending an hour and a half every single week. It adds up and by over, over, over delivering we talked you know, I talked about this in my group coaching like the other week. Like when you over deliver, right, you, you actually drive the value of your service down, like if one of your packages and one of your offering and your services is to have everything updated every week and then your other one is just make sure things are done every month, but you're doing everything every week. You're over delivering to that client and you're taking away time from yourself. So you need to start prioritizing. What am I actually offering the service to my clients and only doing what you promise Right now?

Dave:

Granted, I'm not saying you can't go over and beyond a few times, but if you don't prioritize other things which are more important, right? So you know, if you've done all your outreach for the day and you've had great conversations today and you've done things to help generate new customers and you still have time at the end of the day to go back and maybe do a little bit of categorization perfect. But your categorization should not be done first. See, that's what we're talking about. We're talking about priority, right? Priority means the things to get you new clients, to get you to that new level. That's what needs to happen first, not happen after you're done with the easy stuff. The easy stuff that comes later. That comes when you've done all the hard stuff. Easy stuff that comes later. That comes when you've done all the hard stuff, the uncomfortable stuff.

Dave:

And the third step that for me worked was actually then, as we just briefly chatted about, was managing your calendar. That's step three is actually going out and blocking time for the different activities that you need to do throughout the day. The simple part of this is to do this manually, so to go into an Outlook or Google Calendar whatever system that you use to manage your calendar and go out and let's say, from eight to nine you're going to block it, for you know getting ready for the day, you know planning for your meetings, et cetera, but then block out the rest of the day for what you want to do. So maybe nine to 11 is outreach and every day, put a block in that calendar for nine to 11 for outreach, because it's a priority for you, like that's your top priority. You want to make sure you do it every day, so you block it out, and then do that for the until you go to bed, like you block out your personal time, you block out time for outreach, you block out time to respond to emails, you block out time for ABC, but you do that every day and what that does is now you're managing your calendar and your time instead of your time and your calendar managing you.

Dave:

And here's where I ran into this problem. I ran to this problem because I was all I would just leave my calendar open and whenever anybody wanted to drop something on my calendar, you know, no matter what, they could drop something on my calendar. And what I found is that that really was hindering my productivity, because what was happening is I would feel like I'd be in the middle of something and then I'd have to jump and somebody would would have scheduled a meeting with like a 15 minute break. Well, you can't really accomplish that much in 15 minutes. So somebody would we'd have the meeting. Either the person would show up or they wouldn't show up, and then my entire like 30, 45 minutes is lost, when I could have been doing something more productive if I would have just blocked out my calendar.

Dave:

And so what I found is that I was having all these meetings and I was filling my calendar with like all these meetings, but they weren't one, they weren't like qualified meetings, right. They were just kind of like, you know, intro meetings for people that I probably, you know, didn't want to do business with or wasn't going to be able to help, or I didn't need their service, you know. And it was taking all these meetings and, you know, saying yes, too much. And so what I had to do was I had to kind of really cut that back and really begin to only do things that either could be a benefit to the individual that I'm talking with so they're a qualified person to talk with or they could benefit me, because it's something that I needed. Right, it was something a service, that or a support team system that I needed and I wanted to have that meeting. But what I also did with my calendar is I then actually like limited the time when my introduction meetings could happen and I, instead of saying okay from eight to five or six o'clock. I limit these to only like two hours a day when somebody could potentially book an intro meeting with me. But that still gives me as the business owner right. But the manager of my calendar still gives me the power to schedule meetings elsewhere and other times. But for people to drop things on my calendar it's the power to schedule meetings elsewhere and other times, but for people to drop things on my calendar it's only going to typically happen between 1 and 3 pm Eastern. If I decide to open that up, I can.

Dave:

But the important piece to pick up here is that you manage your calendar. Your calendar doesn't manage you. Now, if you're're saying I don't want to do all this manually, it seems to like too much work. What I use is I use the platform motion you guys may have. I've seen it. This isn't a paid advertisement here, I just use it.

Dave:

What motion does is it connects to your calendar and it allows you to put all the tasks you want to get in, whether they're recurring or one time. You get to put in a deadline right. You can put in how long you think it's going to take you, how small of chunks you're willing to work on that task right throughout the day, and then what Motion will do is it'll take all the meetings you currently have on your calendar and it'll then take all your tasks, ranked on your priority, and book them into your open slots throughout the day so that any time like for me, any time throughout the day I know what I should be working on. Now there are times where it puts something where I don't want it to, so I'll work on something else and it'll automatically move it, which that's the beauty of it. It's AI driven. So if time goes by and you didn't get that task done you didn't mark it as complete it's going to move it to another open slot in the future. So that's the beauty of it. It's going to manage your task list always.

Dave:

And if you want to take it a step further, motion even has the ability. So, like if, let's say, you set something for a deadline of next Friday and it sees that in order for it to get done, it has to block out time like actually block the time on your calendar it will do that. It has the ability to actually mark you as busy on your calendar so that you actually focus on that instead of it still showing up, like if you're using a calendar or a go high level or a HubSpot calendar, the basic version, the baseline version of Motion will show it on your calendar but show it as open. So anytime somebody clicks on your calendar link it's still going to show that you have that time open. You could again tell motion if it's in the if it's I forgot how they word it but if it's something like if it's, you know, at risk of going over the deadline, it will block out. You know the time. Otherwise, you know it's just shown as open time and you know it's still available on your calendar to be booked.

Dave:

And so what I have found from that is that it's truly helped to manage my you know task list, but it's also helped to manage my calendar right. So there's never a time where I get done with a meeting. I look and I have another hour. You know I can go to my motion and it's going to tell me exactly what I should be working on, based on my priorities, and so you can set your priorities from low, medium high. You know, on my priorities, and so you can set your priorities from low, medium, high. You know you have the ability to kind of really customize it and go out there and kind of make it your own different projects, whatever you want to do. But I love motion because it actually helps keep my calendar and it allows me to manage my calendar, not my calendar manage me. So that's, that's kind of the topic, right.

Dave:

So one do a time study, you know, go out there and really like think through, like where am I spending my time? And live, like, do it, write it down, track it with Clockify, whatever you need to do, but do a time study After you do a time study story hopefully it's not a story. Once you do a time study, then think of prioritization. And how are you prioritizing your tasks now? And are you finding that you're you're doing a lot of the easy stuff throughout the day just because it's easy and you're not, you're putting off the more difficult, uncomfortable things that actually are there to lead you to the next step, right To find new clients so many people have had a conversation with lately. That's where you're at. You're stuck in this. You know thing of just doing the easy things because they're there but they're not really pushing you forward and they're actually they don't even need to be done as often as you're doing. So take a look at yourself and really begin to kind of move that forward. And again, these are things that I have seen, I have experienced in my life when it comes to time management.

Dave:

And then, third is, take control of your calendar. Whether you want to use motion or any other software that's out there I'm not aware of any other software that does that, but you know or just do it manually yourself, like just take your calendar and block it. You know you have to do it. Now you can listen to me. You can say these are all great things, but unless you get off the video and you go and begin to implement something immediately, more often than not you're not going to do it. And I know that because I've seen it.

Dave:

I've had this conversation countless times over the last two and a half three years with people. Every time I come back hey, how are things going on your calendar? I haven't done that yet. Or they put it off, it's just for whatever reason, like you're not going to get better with your time management unless you actually go and actually manage your time. And if you're not willing to do that, you're just going to continue spinning your wheels, continuing to do the same stuff time in and time out, and in the end you know I can't help. But I can point you in the right direction and that's what I'm here for and this is my story when it comes to this. So you know, you may want to do something else, you may try something else in terms of your time management. And if it works great, if it doesn't work like maybe, try what we just talked about. And if it works great, if it doesn't work like maybe, try what we just talked about. So do a time study, prioritize your tasks and then, you know, begin to manage your calendar.

Dave:

But until then, my accountability for this week is I, as I just mentioned earlier about my hundred minutes. I want to really focus on making sure that I'm doing a hundred minutes of outreach for the next week. I have it booked in my calendar but sometimes things you know kind of overtake it. But I got to get back to that and I just got to start reaching out to not only my warm right I think when people think outreach they think they're warm clients but also doing outreach to your cold network as well, but by doing that for a hundred minutes a day, seven days a week. We'll see how that works. Alex Ramosi says it works great. We'll see how he works, but until then we'll be here next Friday.

Dave:

Hopefully Dward's internet will be fixed, dward. We miss you. Buddy. I also miss the back and forth conversation. I don't want to just be the center of everybody's attention and, plus, people probably don't want to just hear me for 30 minutes straight. But I hope everybody has a great week and again, keep pushing forward. But I hope everybody has a great week and, again, keep pushing forward.

Dave:

If you have any questions or have any comments, make sure you drop them down below. We look forward to hearing you. We'd love to answer your questions live. Also, if you're a business owner and if you'd like to jump on a future podcast, we're looking for ways to really sort of add value to everybody in the network. If you want to get out with me or Dwarin, or maybe an episode when Dwarin's not going to be here and it's just me and you, I will be opening up. You know. Send me a message or send me a DM.

Dave:

I am going to be, you know, looking for people to.

Dave:

You know.

Dave:

Basically, come on live, we'll learn about what you do where you are but be willing to talk about, like, one or two obstacles or struggles that you're going through in your business and we'll talk through how we could possibly, you know, give you some suggestions on ways to overcome that. And then we'll have you back for a future to kind of talk about how did that actually happen, like, did you, what did you implement, how did it come, what were the, what was the outcomes, et cetera. So if you're a business owner and you want to jump onto a podcast and you want to talk about your business and you want to maybe talk about one or two obstacles that you're going through and Duarn and I could, you know, help point you in the right direction, then send me a message, get in contact with us, you know, drop a message down below or shoot us a DM as well. We'd love to have a conversation with you. So I hope everybody has a wonderful week. I look forward to seeing everybody Friday and we'll see you in the next one. Bye.

People on this episode

Head Shot

Dave Worden

Host