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Brandon Held - Life is Crazy
This podcast is designed to help with suicide prevention. That is the #1 goal! This is also a Podcast of perseverance, self-help, self-Improvement, becoming a better person, making it through struggles and not only surviving, but thriving! In this Podcast the first 25 episodes detail my life's downs and ups. A story that shows you can overcome poverty, abusive environments, drug and alcoholic environments, difficult bosses, being laid-off from work, losing your family, and being on the brink of suicide. Listen and find a place to share life stories and experiences. Allow everyone to learn from each other to reinforce our place in this world. To grow and be better people and help build a better more understanding society.
The early podcast episodes are a story of the journey of my life. The start from poor, drug and alcohol stricken life, to choices that lead to success. Discusses my own suicide ideations and attempt that I struggled with for most of my life. Being raised by essentially only my mother with good intentions, but didn't know how to teach me to be a man. About learning life's lessons and how to become a man on this journey and sharing those lessons and experiences with others whom hopefully can benefit from my successes and failures.
Hosting guests who have overcome suicide attempts/suicide ideations/trauma/hardships/difficult situations to fight through it, rise up, and live their best life. Real life stories to help others that are going through difficult times or stuck without a path forward, understand and learn there is a path forward.
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Brandon Held - Life is Crazy
Episode 45: Battle Wounds to Better Lives with Coach Rob
Coach Rob Wheeler transforms his military trauma into a platform for helping others turn their pain into progress through his coaching brand, Battle Fitted.
• Joining the Navy as an act of rebellion against his father, only to face intense bullying and trauma
• Finding purpose in protecting others through the Navy police force after 9/11
• Struggling with PTSD, depression, and anger issues throughout his 17 years in law enforcement
• Discovering the transformative power of gratitude practice and positive affirmations
• Creating Battle Fitted to help others overcome trauma and mental health challenges
• Breaking the stigma around discussing mental health issues, especially for veterans
• The crucial importance of having supportive people who ask "how can I help?"
• Becoming present as a father, husband, and coach while balancing multiple pursuits
• Facing trauma head-on instead of avoiding it: "You have to be uncomfortable to grow"
Follow Robert Wheeler on Instagram @battlefitted and visit battlefittedbrand.com to access his free 7-Day Reset mindset journal and learn more about his coaching services and podcast.
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Welcome. Welcome back to Brandon Held. Life is Crazy and speaking of crazy, I have a man today that can do it all. He's multi-talented, he can do acting. He can turn your life around, help you get into shape. He's a speaker, a trainer. He's a Navy veteran that served 10 years and a former federal police officer with 17 years in law enforcement, and now the founder of Battle Fitted, a personal development brand coaching platform built on the mission of turning pain into progress. And we're talking about the one and only Robert Wheeler. How are you doing today, robert?
Speaker 2:Man, that's quite an introduction. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no problem, you've earned it, you deserve it. So, yeah, today we're just going to get into your life story and we're going to talk about you and your journey from how you started to where you are today. And, as a fellow veteran, I really respect and appreciate you for your service and everything you're doing. I know you're helping veterans as well, and so let's just talk about what happened early in your life and made you decide to join the Navy.
Speaker 2:So that's a loaded question, brother. Honestly, I joined the Navy to piss off my dad and it didn't work right. I got kicked out of college for academics. When I got to college, I really didn't have a goal or desire. I didn't really have a purpose. I was one of those kids that just floated through life. My parents provided for me whatever I want and I was like, oh, this is good, I just want to do this for the rest of my life, which was nothing. And so, after I got kicked out of college academically, my father, who was in the Navy for three years he owned his own business, right, and he would literally kick open my door, like I think to the point that my door was like destroyed over the course of six months, and he would literally say go join the Navy and then walk out and go to work. And I wouldn't hear from him until he got home. There wouldn't be no other talk about it. So one day, as a big FU dad, I went down to the recruiter in California and, not knowing anybody or anything about the Navy, I signed up and the Navy stands for never again volunteer yourself. And I went to. I went to boot camp and unfortunately undesignated. So for the civilians that means I had no job. I had no future. I basically went straight to the fleet where I would clean toilets and paint the ship and hang over the side and scrub rust and all the most horrible jobs that nobody wants to do. That was my job During that time. There was no women integrated on ships.
Speaker 2:It was a time of just men, and I always tell everybody, believe it or not, it was like being in prison. I was a skinny, 120 pound, 21 year old, weakling, introvert and man. I got the crap kicked out of me. I got threatened to be killed. I threatened to be thrown over the side. I had people trying to physically abuse me. It was the craziest portion of my life, which caused me some trauma, some lovely PTSD and some major depressive disorder. And I got out. I broke service. They had this thing where you could get out early if you were in college and I was like I hate this crap.
Speaker 2:So I got out and lo and behold, september 11th happened and I got this letter that I wish I held on to, because I swear I got it before September 11th. But it said you have two choices you can go back in or we're going to bring you back in. And knowing that I didn't want to go through the same job and ordeal that I did the first time, I went down to my recruiter a little more knowledgeable this time and they're like, hey, we have a Navy police force that we are starting in response to September 11th. Would you like to do that? And I was like, heck, yeah, I'm going to go be a cop. So I went to one of the first Navy police academies that were ever created so that was cool. In Virginia Beach, virginia, Did that for the rest of my career. The seven years Got out, decided to be a federal police officer. So it took more trauma from being a cop. And after that was history, just trauma and trauma and trying to figure out why I'm so angry, upset and depressed all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a great story. I want to ask you a couple questions, but let me just say I didn't even thank you for your service as a law enforcement officer federal law enforcement officer but thank you for that service as well. That is a traumatic job to do and the life quality in that job role is just not good, and I think that's pretty well known. So the sacrifice is real. So thank you for that. I don't know if you know this about me or not, but I was actually security police in the Air Force for four years, but it wasn't traumatic, or anything like that.
Speaker 1:It's totally different experience for me, but let's back up a little bit. So you got pissed off, or it was a big F you to your dad, for he kept telling you to join the Navy and you ended up going in and your first experience was pretty miserable, obviously, and that sounds awful what you had to go through. So how do you feel towards your father, since you made those choices based off of his actions?
Speaker 2:My father is a hard man and he grew up in that era where we're finding out that most men, they didn't talk about their emotions, they didn't talk about their problems. My father never really said I love you until you know recently, now that he's a lot older, he never really told me that he was proud of me or anything. Now he did support me as far as coaching me when I was in sports and trying to instill manhood type things like teaching me how to change the oil or change the tire on a car, stuff like that. So I take it for what it's worth. I had a father who when he was angry he would yell at my mom, he would throw his hands through the walls, he would break things, he didn't know how to emotionally regulate himself. And so as far as joining the Navy like the greatest thing and I'm appreciative of him actually for it, because when I was going through this real world hell on my first command, I remember I don't remember how long I was at the First Command, but I remember being at an actual pay phone on the pier and calling him and I'm crying Like I'm supposed to be a man at this point 21. We know that we don't typically develop until we're 25 and then later, but 21,. You're supposed to be a man and I'm calling my dad, crying. I'm like dad, I can't do this, I want to go home. And the greatest thing he could have ever done for me he said I love you, son, but you can't come home. Click. He hung up the phone on me and that gave me that real world. Like, oh crap, no one's coming to save you. You have to figure out what you're going to do.
Speaker 2:And that's where I was like, okay, if I'm in prison and I'm the smallest guy in prison, I guess I got to be a bigger guy. So I remember, knowing absolutely nothing about health and fitness and nutrition, going to GNC, letting the GNC guy sell me every product known to man, spending my whole first Navy paycheck on supplements, protein, amino acids. And I just started hitting the ship gym and people were like, oh, wheeler's starting to work out. And I'm like, yeah, wheeler's starting to fight back. And that built that more hardened shell to allow me to like face things head on. That's what kind of built, essentially who I started with. So I appreciate my father for doing this for me, because I needed that. I had no structure, I had no purpose, I had no path Like the military. Eventually, my second half of career I had some struggle but it was a hell of a lot better and that kind of solidified who I was and started to give me that mental toughness that I needed.
Speaker 1:That's a great explanation and I was hoping actually that you would say that, because, yeah, he didn't handle it right, Just kicking your door in every morning saying join the Navy.
Speaker 1:Should have been a real conversation. But him pushing you out there and saying you're on your own, you need to make this work. That was the best thing he could have done for you. And what's great is you made it work right and you went through all that hardship and all that struggle and yeah, it sucks and yeah, you have some PTSD from it and some pretty terrible memories, but it also hardened you and it also gave you a lot of good qualities that you may not have ever had if you hadn't gone through that. So that's the problem we coddle our children too much days and they just have it too easy. And even the thought as parents of them experiencing some kind of pain or heartache or whatever else they could go through, we think, oh my God, I don't want them to have to go through that, but sometimes you need to go through that it's necessary, definitely, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1:So that's cool, that you are thankful for your dad for that. I respect that a lot. All right, so you did your 10 years in the Navy and then. So actually let me back that up. So when you got called back in after 9-11, which, coincidentally, is when I joined the military a second time shortly after that I went into the Army because I felt the need to serve after 9-11 as well, did you go into that feeling pride and ready to serve, or were you feeling like you were drug into it and you're just going to make the best of it?
Speaker 2:No. After I separated service like for that brief time I was out, I lost my way. Service like for that brief time I was out, I lost my way. Once again. The navy or the military, the structure, the routine, the guaranteed paycheck, the benefits outweighed not being in and I was floating around from job to job and I couldn't like find my purpose or my path. And then September 11th hit and honestly, I was angry man. I just I wanted to go fuck up some terrorists like I was angry man. I just I wanted to go fuck up some terrorists, like I was ready to go to war.
Speaker 2:And when they said they needed police officers, that really resonated with me because everything that I experienced my first career and the heck and turmoil, the whole reason why I became a cop and the whole reason why I do what I do now is just I wanted to protect those that couldn't protect themselves. I remember how I got bullied, how I felt and all the shit I went through and I was like man, if I could help somebody else from doing that, what a wonderful thing. And I experienced some really cool stuff as far as being a police officer in the Navy. I went to Japan for three years and one of the best duty stations I ever was at and there we were based police. So essentially, that's where I learned how to deal with domestic violence and fights and shoplifting and just everything in the real realms of being a police officer, and I found myself thriving in this career, as far as with my coworkers, with my supervisors. I was like, man, this is something I'm good at and so I leaned into that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yeah, that's the good part of it.
Speaker 1:right With the negatives and the trauma you have to deal with, you also have the great parts of the good stuff that you do to help people in their lives and potentially save lives or turn people's life around, and that's huge, and we'll get more into that because we know you're doing that as well uh, outside of the military and outside of being a federal law enforcement officer. So let's just talk about your 17 years as a federal law enforcement officer. What are your biggest takeaways from that experience that you could share with everyone?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the thing is, between the military and my career as a police officer and everything I did. If anybody said, look, do you have to do this again and you have to experience all this trauma and all this hell and all this pain all over again, would you do it? And I would say yes in a heartbeat. And the answer is no, because I really went to a deep, dark place with all the trauma, all the things I saw. So I was DOD police officer for four years at a base that was a pre-positioning base where there wasn't any barracks, there wasn't any stores. It was a Marine Corps base and they would just bring stuff in from the war, retrofit it and send it out. So there I felt like a glorified security guard. I left there to go to the West Palm Beach Veterans Affairs Hospital out in South Florida, where I live, and what's crazy is when I first got there I'm like, oh, I'm here for the vets, I'm going to serve the vets. But then I started seeing the real dark side of veterans. Right, I started dealing with the same people that were on drugs, the same people that were on alcohol, the same people that were having mental health issues, fighting the same veterans, taking the same veterans to jail, getting told that, getting threatened to get spit on or throw piss on or told you're a pig. So that started bringing more of the real society of being a police officer, where I did that for six years and it was a huge mental drain, like I said, dealing with these same veterans. This is my community. This is our community that we want to be a part of. We want to help, and I just realized there was a huge population of veterans that they don't want help and they don't want to get better. So that was like a wake-up call and frustrating at the same time. And I left that in 2018, where I actually went and built a strength and conditioning gym and I ran that for four years and unfortunately, I lost it due to COVID.
Speaker 2:And at the time, my wife said what are we going to do? Because I need an income and I need money. And she's like, why don't you go be a cop? And that was like the most wrong answer ever. But, loving my wife, I'm like, okay, let's do it. So I go get state certified in Florida and I get hired by a police department out here and I literally only worked for four months.
Speaker 2:Second day, young man blew his brains out. I had to process the scene, I had to take the gun out of his hand. I had to deal with all that. And then just dealing with the real world buttheads of thieves and drug dealers and rapists and child molesters. And I'm like man, realistically, at 46, 47 at the time, I'm like this is not a maintainable life. Regardless of the money because officers in Florida get paid very well regardless of the benefits, I'm like I can't do this. And I remember like breaking down in front of the wife crying and she's babe, if you need to quit. That day I went and talked to my sergeant. I said thank you for the opportunity, but I'm done. And after that that was essentially where I had more trauma and was in more depressive, more anxiety, more PTSD and I had to find a way out of it. And that's just another part of who I am as Coach Rob and where I'm at now in my life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we'll get to that here in a second where you're at now, you being a veteran police officer for the VA, and I don't think people who aren't veterans or who haven't served really understand how much a community that is and how connected we feel. And when you see your fellow veteran go through pain or be an asshole or whatever that hits you personally you feel like you're representing me too, and so I don't think people really get how impactful that is on us. So I imagine just how tough that was for you. And yeah, the the police officer thing, four months that if day two, whoo, yeah they, you got inaugurated quickly quickly so yeah, that's rough, all right.
Speaker 1:So, like you were saying, you wouldn't trade any of it in. Everything happens for a reason. All our pains, all our heartaches, everything we go through makes us who we are today and that's why we're doing what we're doing right, because we have gone through all this shit and we came out the other side and we want to help people do the same thing. So let's talk about that. You're a trainer now Tell everyone about that.
Speaker 2:So, essentially, I was a very negative person. I was a very dark person. I was. Everything was bad. I was the guy. I wake up say, f my life, why me? Why does this happen to me? Why does everything suck? If a person cut me off, I would chase you. If you got my personal space, I would push you. If you messed up my order, I would cuss you out. I was not a nice person and I wasn't a happy person and I was very angry. I truly believe, even though my ex-wife. It takes two to tango, so to speak.
Speaker 2:But I'll take 60% of the responsibility and say I destroyed 18 years of my marriage because of my mental health issues, because I had no self-worth, because something inside was broken or off and I was just like everybody in that stigma of well, you can't talk about it, you can't do this, you can't do that, because everybody's going to think you're cuckoo, crazy bananas, and you're going to lose your family, you're going to lose your job, you're going to lose your friends. And then I found out that's the furthest thing from the truth, right, and one day, like I, was like man, like when you have mental health issues and you have PTSD or depression. Most people don't realize. Sometimes it's something you can't control. It's whatever happened to you, the trauma it's in there, and it's in there so deep that you don't understand like why you're going through this. Yes, and I was at this point where I'm like I'm going through this but I don't like it. I don't like who I am when I look in the mirror. I don't like who I am with my current wife. I didn't want to lose that relationship and I'm like man, something has to change. And I've done therapy. I've been on medication, all kinds of medication, I've gone through the motions and nothing quite really worked for me. And even as a fitness professional, fitness wasn't starting to mean the same thing anymore. Now I'd have the non-negotiable of going to the gym every day, but it wasn't giving me that like mental clarity anymore. And I'm like man, like this sucks, I hate this.
Speaker 2:And I literally was like scrolling through Instagram or something, and somebody said had a post on practicing gratitude and I like I laughed. I'm like this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life. You're telling me, if I just am thankful for something, my mood's going to change. And so that night and I've been doing this for over a year now. That night I thought of three things I was thankful for. I'm like, okay, thankful for my house, I'm thankful for my wife and I'm thankful for my dog. And I did that over and over again.
Speaker 2:And then I was thinking, like every time I say I'm I hate my life or I'm very negative, bad things, things happen right. So what if I just try as hard as it is to say I'm going to have a good day? So every day I woke up I'm like it's going to be a good day. Now, initially, the first 500 times I'd have to be like it's going to be a good day. It's going to be a good day. It's going to be a good day. I'm walking around the. It's going to be a good day.
Speaker 2:I'm going all the opportunities I've had. When I think about the house that I'm in and I'm not in the fanciest house or the car I drive I don't drive the fanciest car, but all the opportunities and things I have the woman that loves me, my kids that love me. I'm not hurting to pay bills, I'm not starving to put food on the table. And then, as I told, stories of people on my podcast who went through five times worse than what I've been through. I was like man, life is fricking awesome, like life is good, and that renewed a whole sense of me as far as how I live my day to day now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean you. You touched on a lot there, I think I think one of the things I'd like to add to what you were saying was, when you're going through those struggles and you're feeling what you're feeling, you also are feeling like you don't want to tell, say, your wife or whatever, because you feel like you don't want to put that burden on them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's definitely harder as a man, because we have this innate desire to protect, provide and preside over those people we love. And if you're, you try to be a good man or a man of value. We all have that deep inside. And then if you feel broken or you feel something off, or you're not helping pay the bills or you're not there for your wife to help her cook or clean or support her, however, that looks like you almost feel like you're not a man, like you're worthless.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, and that's what I'm saying, and that's counterproductive because really they don't understand what you're going through, because you're not talking to them and you're not telling them exactly what you're going through. So I think everything you said is a great point and something people need to understand. I'm also a huge, huge believer in rewiring of the brain and that you have the power to do that and, like you said, practicing gratitude and just thinking positive, being thankful for what you have to be thankful for. It's been a life changer for me too. I had it when I was younger and then I lost it somewhere along the way, going through all the shit that I went through, and then I had to find it again. I had to figure it out again and, yeah, everything you're saying, I feel you, because I did the same things and I went through the same things as well.
Speaker 1:I was also a personal trainer for 15 years and changing people's lives is a real part of that job and that was very satisfying and I loved doing that for people. So you have your podcast, you have your training that you're doing, and I know you're acting on the side as well. What am I missing? What haven't I talked about yet?
Speaker 2:Other than that, like most, I'm a father. I'm a husband. Two of my kids are older my daughter's 25, my middle son's 24, and then I have a 13-year-old and I just try to love on my kids and tell them like, look, I'm always here for you and want to spend time with them and want to be involved in their lives, especially my 13 year old. I have him every other weekend. He's at that age where now's the time to teach him, little by little, how to be a man and how to grow up and do certain things properly. So just being present in life in general you as a podcast host, me as a podcast host, business owners life gets crazy, but we have to be present with our family. It can't be work, grind, go. You have to separate that time to be involved and be present with your family. So I think that's very important to me right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and a great point to make. I couldn't agree with you more great point to make. I couldn't agree with you more. And the biggest thing I want people to take away from your story is you literally had been through hell, even if it's in your own mind, everyone's hell is their hell, it's all relative. I don't like to compare. This guy's hell was worse than your hell. It doesn't matter, it was still your hell, so it's all relative. I too have been suicidal, even attempted suicide, all that, and we are on the other side of it. That's the beauty, that's the part people need to know and understand that you can go through your personal hell and it will pass if you give it the opportunity to pass and you do the right things to move on and see. That's the thing. You were lost, you were a little bit lost, and you had to figure out how to find yourself. You could have gone many directions. You could have become a drug addict, you could have become an alcoholic. You could have just given up and became homeless. Whatever, there's nothing.
Speaker 2:A thousand different ways you could have went with that.
Speaker 1:So that's the key part is you made the right choices and you made the right decisions, and now you're loving life right.
Speaker 2:Definitely. I think our support system is, first of all, one thing that I think you and me are both trying to do. You have to break that stigma of not talking to people, whether it's a close friend or if you have a family member you think will understand. And the scariest thing in life is we have to face this trauma head on and we don't do it because it's scary, right, and we don't talk to people because it's scary, right. But as soon as you jump in and you fight back, that's when you realize you're like oh man, this wasn't as bad as I thought, like I should have done this years ago. And, yes, I just want people to know that you don't have to struggle alone. Like this is why I do what I do. But support system's huge. Like my first wife, unfortunately, she would say I don't know how to help you. My current wife always says how can I help you? And just that change in mindset and those words right there. That's a huge flipping difference.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1:That's a huge flipping difference. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. My current wife is the youngest wife I've ever had and she's also the most intelligent one I've ever had. I mean her same thing. When I was going through the shit I was going through, I was in my third marriage. We were together 12 years and she would always say I don't know how to help you, but I'm here to support you. And that was her response. It was basically figure it out. I love you, but figure it out. And my wife, now that I have she, is helping me trying to figure things out. Whether I ask for it or not, it doesn't matter, it's fine, it's great. She's intelligent, she's getting her Juris Doctorate to become a lawyer, and when she's only 27 years old, she's an amazing person and she's always there for me. She always has my back, and I never had that before.
Speaker 1:If you just talk to people and make them aware of what you're going through, someone will step up. If we can get over the shame of just talking about it, someone will step up and help you. And that is one of the biggest messages I'm trying to get out. There, too, is don't just keep it to yourself. Talk about it If someone judges you and mistreats you or whatever because of what you're going through, they're not really your fucking friend anyway. You don't need them in your life if that's who they are. So the people that are good people, they'll step up. They're not really your fucking friend anyway. You don't need them in your life if that's who they are. So the people that are good people, they'll step up. They'll help you. And those are the people you want to call friend anyway.
Speaker 2:Definitely, and I agree with that a hundred percent. If someone's not supporting you, no matter how crazy your goals, dreams or how your feeling is, then you need to come out of your life because the real ones are going to have your back, no matter what. And the whole I just I don't know. There's this common denominator between veterans and cops. Like, we all have second marriages, third marriages, we all have mental health issues and, like you said, no one knows what you're going through except for you. So your trauma isn't any better than my trauma. My trauma is any worse than your trauma.
Speaker 2:It's just we've experienced this and, like you said, we decided to do something about it. And you, just you have to get to that point where you're like enough's enough. And if you want to save your marriage, if you want to be a better parent, if you want to be a better person, if you want to be a better member of society, you have to step into that dark, frickin storm of. I need to overcome this and I need to deal with this head on. There's just no other way. You have to be uncomfortable, you have to be comfortable being uncomfortable in order to grow. There's no growth or progress without pain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and on top of what you're saying, it's so freeing, it's so freeing. Like we, you and I we couldn't really enjoy life until we got to that part.
Speaker 1:And getting to that part, is freeing, like we, you and I, we couldn't really enjoy life until we got to that part, and getting to that part is freeing. And now life is beautiful. You hated life before. Life sucked. I had that point in time where I felt that way too.
Speaker 1:And life doesn't suck. Life is what you make it Right, and that's something I tell my kids all the time. If life, if you say life sucks, then you it right, and that's something I tell my kids all the time. If you say life sucks, then you're right, life sucks. If you say life's great, then you're right, life's great. So it's really on you to make your life suck or make it be great, and that's one thing I really try to impress upon people as well. Rob, it's been great having you here on my podcast and I really appreciate you being a guest and sharing everything you've gone through with everyone. Just as a final closing goodbye, if you could just let everyone know how they can get a hold of you and how they can get in touch with you and how they can find your podcast as well.
Speaker 2:Definitely so. The best way to get ahold of me is my website, which is battlefittedbrandcom. That's battlefittedbrandcom. There you can access actually a free resource right now called the 7-Day Reset, where it gives you a quick little journal to reset your mindset in seven days. It has my apparel line, my coaching products. You can book a call with me. You can find the podcast. I'm very prevalent social media anywhere at Battlefitted, but Instagram is my main platform, so you can always DM me at Battlefitted and you can get a lot of free videos.
Speaker 2:I do Battlefitted Mindset Monday, where I talk about mindset. Tuesday I promote the podcast. Wednesday is Ask Coach Rob Wednesday, where you can literally ask me any question and I'll answer. Mindset Tuesday I promote the podcast. Wednesday is Ask Coach Rob Wednesday, where you can literally ask me any question and I'll answer it. And then the Battle Heart Podcast, which is on YouTube, iheartradio, spotify and Apple Podcasts. That's where it's just an extension of everything I do and I tell real stories of people overcoming adversity. And then I have actual professionals and it's funny we were talking about mindset.
Speaker 2:I had an actual neuroscientist on my show who was a veteran and I asked him. I said, look, if I tell myself that I'm going to have a bad day or I tell myself I'm going to have a good day. What happens to my subconscious? Does my subconscious believe that? And he was like 100% definitely, and that's backed science. Was like 100% indefinitely, and that's backed science. So, for those listening, if you want to change your mind, just start with trying to be positive. It's going to be a good day, life is good, my wife loves me, my kids love me. Whatever you have to say to yourself to make yourself feel better, believe me that shit works.
Speaker 1:Yeah, good stuff, rob. That's great. And definitely go follow Rob on IG. We follow each other. His Instagram is great. That's how I saw he. He does some of his acting gigs and some of the other things that he does, so he has a great Instagram. So definitely go follow him and then also follow me as well. Mine's BH underscore life underscore is underscore crazy, so BH life is crazy with the underscores in between. And this is how I want to connect with you as well, and I don't want to step on your life coaching. I usually actually do an outro where I talk about my life coaching and stuff no.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to do that today. I got too much respect for you and I want people to focus on you for this one. I just want to thank you all for listening to our podcast and Rob's story, because it's important and it needs to be shared and it needs to be heard, and people need to understand that, whatever hell you're going through, just you'll get through it. You'll get through it and you can come out the other side and you can live a beautiful, happy life, and that's what we want people to know. So that's all we're going to talk about today and thank you for listening Until next time. This is is brandon held. Life is crazy. There's always a yeah.
