Ep 32: Buck Up Oompa-Loompa!

No Easter or chocolate in Cadbury eggs, Willy Wonka in a meth lab, and Buddhist Priest is D.O.A.

Transcript

Pat 0:02

got some bad news for you, rich. I'm gonna hit, we have a saying in my family, coined by my great son-in-law, Lee Sall. Bad news never gets better with time. So I'm gonna go ahead and jam it to you. Not earth shattering, but this is going to, this is gonna leave a mark. Okay. Okay, mate.

Rich 0:23

Yeah.

Pat 0:24

Alright.

Rich 0:24

Do I need to take a, should I take a minute? Just maybe breathe.

Pat 0:27

No. You're, no, you're good. You're good. You're, uh, you're emotionally stable enough to handle it.

Rich 0:32

Don't, don't believe the hype man. Don't believe the hype. That's just all good pr.

Pat 0:40

Yeah. Well it's gonna, it's just, it's gonna leave you questioning a questioning. A few things. Alright, last episode, we were talking about food, right? We're talking about all this crazy stuff and all the food that we were in, that we were eating, uh, in the us. And then you also enlightened us that you had been binge eating CAD berry eggs. If I remember the story correctly, it was eating handfuls of chocolate eggs, CAD berry eggs, going to the gym, knocking out a couple of pushups, going back and resuming, shoving the CAD berry eggs into your mouth. Is that correct?

Rich 1:16

I feel like that you've emphasized some parts of the story there and deemphasized others, but yeah, there's something in that. Yeah. Yeah.

Pat 1:24

That, that's how you do, that's entertained. That's what that's enter, you know what I mean? I mean, just you leave the little stuff down that's enter you exaggerate. But that's,

Rich 1:36

that, that's the, that's the broad strokes of it. Yes. Patrick.

Pat 1:39

Got you. You're, you. You learn from me. You know what I mean? It's, uh, so, you know, we talked about all the food that was in the, you know, all the poison, all stuff in American food, but yet you were eating Cadbury eggs. Good old British CAD berry eggs, chocolate CAD berry eggs. Man, I hate to do this to you, but I'm just, have you heard of a chap named Jack McLean?

Rich 2:05

I think so, yeah.

Pat 2:06

Okay. He's a British chap and I'm just going to let you listen to this about CAD berry eggs. He's gonna mention Easter. That's not totally the point, but let's give it a listen.

Jack 2:21

See on Easter the world famous chocolate brand, Currys has always been seen as Easter eggs selling out in the lead up to the holiday. However, 2026, it did recently get revealed that they are replacing the cocoa content with palm oils and removing the word Easter for most of the products. You know, they don't offend the other cultures in this country and the growing population of different religions in this country. They are also getting rid of the word Easter, like they have even reduced them and no one's buying them, which is amazing to see because this isn't chocolate anymore. This is like a hundred percent pure chemicals. Even the chocolate is not chocolate. In fact, many of the chemicals they're using are so harmful to the human body. In

Girl 3:24

bury from their packaging entirely and people noticed.

Pat 3:40

You get the point.

Rich 3:42

Yeah. And you know why? You know why Cadburys changed their like famous glass and a half of milk recipe? You know when all of this started?

Pat 3:50

When

Rich 3:51

you want to look up some facts, I'll look up some facts. You, Patrick, well, you a

Pat 3:55

fat guy.

Rich 3:56

You just sit right? You just sit right there my friend.

Pat 4:00

I've got nowhere to go.

Rich 4:01

Well, you, well, here we go. Cadbury, who owns Cadbury?

Pat 4:11

An American company. An American company, bought it out, started putting the poison in.

Rich 4:15

Exactly, man. Do you know what I mean? So this is all, this, all, all roads, lead home pack. Do you know what I mean? It all leads back to you man. It all leads back.

Pat 4:23

Yeah,

Rich 4:24

I know where it go. Yeah, no, I heard this actually. And like there is, but some people like, oh, it doesn't taste the same like it used to all that stuff, but yeah. Um, yeah. Man, sad times, isn't it? We live in a, you know, a rapidly changing landscape, you know, but yeah,

Pat 4:42

you thought you were clean over there eating your, your cat berry eggs. Matter of fact, there was another company in America. Uh, I don't know if it was Mars or Hershey's that actually went back to putting cocoa back in it because I remember there was a candy bar that IU used to eat. Boy, I'd jump on that thing, like white on rice and boy, you know, you were sad when it was gone. Last time I ate one, it didn't taste the same 'cause they had started taking the cocoa out. They actually went back to putting the good stuff back in. But now Cadbury, I mean, how British can you get in Cadbury and an American company has bought it out. Taking a cocoa out and now we are systematically poisoning.

Rich 5:20

Eroding, yeah, spreading.

Pat 5:23

So

Rich 5:24

yeah, spreading. Spreading through the world like cancer.

Pat 5:29

So, well, it's

Rich 5:33

a bit strong maybe so that, that's, that's just you, you can take that out if you need to.

Pat 5:38

You gotta take the shots you see as, as, you just don't, you don't have to do that. You see every, when, when you take the shots at me, not one. It hurts my feelings. You know, I mean, and it alienates our audience. It is an American company, but we are also in the process of trying to reverse the trend of doing a lot of that, which is what surprised me in the fact that they bought CAD berry eggs and changed the CAD berry eggs. But you ate 'em, right? You had a bunch of them. Oh,

Rich 6:08

I had some, well, I had, what did I had? I had a Capri egg. I had an egg, a couple of eggs from a. A chain over here we have called Waitroses, which is quite like a kind of highend kind of supermarket grocery chain. So I had a couple of them and I had a Tony's Choco egg that my wife bought me, um, which is kind of like a bit, a bit like funky kind of cool designer chocolate. So a whole range really, Patrick. I don't miss about,

Pat 6:41

just want, you know, I'm looking out for your help and I just wanted you to know an American company has bought ca berry and took Easter out by the way. We gotta go, go ahead. Go ahead and take Easter.

Rich 6:51

Yeah.

Pat 6:52

I didn't even know that till I heard this guy talking. I never really noticed that they took, uh, that they took Easter out. But I guess changing a lot of foods, you know, we were also talking about, uh, Walmart and great value. Have you shopped at the Walmart, by the way? In London?

Rich 7:07

Oh, no, we, so we've got, we don't, we've, I've, I've, I've shopped at Walmart in Hattiesburg, as you know. Right. You know, but, um, which was a, a, a kind of interesting experience. You walk in, it looks a bit like, so in our supermarkets right, you walk in and it is quite like a. What's the word? What would the word be? Nice. Yeah. Like it seemed like, you know, there's like nice flooring and delicate lighting and the displays are organized quite like, you know, nicely aesthetically pleasing. Do you know what I mean? Like there's, there's a design element at work, whereas I, I mean, I don't know if it's just Walmart in hat, Walmart in Hattiesburg, but you walk and it kind of looks like a disaster relief center or a warehouse or something like that. It just, it was, it was a very different experience.

Pat 7:53

That's actually Walmart. Now see it's like you have different stores. You know, you, you'll have a store, like in Hattiesburg, you've got like a corner market or in little smaller surrounding towns or Ramey. So you'll go into the, that grocery store and like when I lived in New Jersey, there was one called ShopRite. It was set up that way. But Walmart is set up. To save money, surprisingly in, in England you said the prices weren't that much lower, but the whole point of Walmart is to save money. So they go in and build this big, huge, uh, metal building, put cinder blocks in and boom, they've got this hundreds of millions of dollars of. Of sales going right there. They don't spend a bunch of money on it, but if you go down the street to the the other store, you'll find that, you'll find that experience, but you will pay more money. But I've always been a fan of Walmart because when Walmart came in, it did, uh, exponentially drop the prices. And I also, something I noticed, you know, we talked about the bread that did not mold right.

Rich 8:57

Yeah,

Pat 8:57

I'd had it for a couple weeks. No, mo still hasn't molded. I just still got it sitting there. I'm not taking No,

Rich 9:02

you're lying. You're

Pat 9:03

lying. I'm not getting you the mold it, no, it's just still sitting there. But then, um, last week my wife cooked some baked spaghetti which had mozzarella cheese. We got grape value and there's a Walmart's brand is great value, which I'm a big fan of. 'cause they go out and they hack the top food. Uh, chains or products, and they get the ingredients and they make virtually the same product that tastes just as good, but it's at half the price. But that was the grape value bread that hasn't molded. And then she made some baked spaghetti. Really good baked spaghetti. By the way, when you come to the states, you'll have to have some. But we started biting into it and we noticed the cheese didn't seem like it had melted. I didn't really say, you know, you don't say anything when your wife cooks something that doesn't taste quite right, don't say anything about it. Then just when she cooks it, the next time you say something like, Hey, maybe you could cook it a little while longer. 'cause that's what I thought. But she noticed it too, that the cheese was a little bit rubbery. And so last night we had some. A burrito or Mexican casserole or whatever with a different great value. Cheese, same thing. I've been into it and the whole piece of cheese comes out in my mouth and so we immediately Google and then the, and the Internet's full of, what did Walmart do with their cheese? Their cheese no longer melts.

Rich 10:24

Whoa. So what, what have they changed? One of the main ingredients or something?

Pat 10:28

They must have? Yeah, they, yeah, they had to have, they said something in there that they changed some kind of ingredient where the cheese now is not the creamy, melty cheese. I don't know what it is, but they've changed the ingredients. The, the bread doesn't, mold cheese doesn't melt. So, and Cadbury eggs are full of chemicals, which. Brings us to our next subject. Since we are talking about the UK and chocolate, it only seems to reason, and we're gonna talk about Willy Wonka in the uk.

Rich 11:02

Yes. Here we go,

Pat 11:03

man. Okay. Willy Wonka guy, you know where, stick with this. Oh, and there's a line in here that I'm just gonna love to drop on you. Uh, you see what I did there? You see how a segued in the comedy world is what we call a segue? You might,

Rich 11:16

that's what I did.

Pat 11:19

You might call it seg, but it's a say

Rich 11:22

Segway.

Pat 11:22

It's Segway. In my, in my comedy act, I'm brilliant at it. You just, it just seems like I'm telling one long line. That's how you line up the next thing you're coming to. So we've now segued, and I guess you know where I'm going, so it was called the, the Willies Chocolate Experience. Glasgow Scotland, and I guess maybe from, this was maybe last year, but let's, let's read this. So Willy Wonka, the children's, character that all children love, they set up an experience called the Willy's Chocolate Experience in Glasgow. Was a disastrous, viral, and unlicensed event where organizers used AI to create misleading marketing, promising an immersive candy land. Instead, families found a near empty warehouse. Few props, a single sad Oompa lumpa, and minimal treats. A, these kids are,

Speaker 6 12:25

I

Rich 12:26

could just picture him. Do I mean?

Pat 12:28

Oh no. The kids all walk in

Rich 12:33

chain to a radiator in the corner

Pat 12:36

and you got some crack head looking

Rich 12:41

Yeah.

Pat 12:41

Sitting over there. So

Rich 12:43

snarling. He's sit snarling at the kids as they walk. Yeah.

Pat 12:46

Just go. Yeah. Oh, yo, it kind of misses. Okay. Yeah, it gets better. It says, in minimal treats, leading to angry parents. And police intervention key facts of the event. The reality, the venue was a dimly lit, sparsely decorated warehouse described as having a meth lab aesthetic.

Speaker 6 13:09

Nice.

Pat 13:14

So of, of, of all the meth, jokes that I get hit with by you. It turns out in the UK you have a children's experience with a sad loo and a meth lab. In a

Rich 13:30

meth lab. Yeah, the loos begging for crack money

Pat 13:35

and then misleading marketing. The event used AI generated imagery to promote an immersive experience that was completely false. The experience children were given one or two. Children were given, or two jelly beans and a lemonade.

Speaker 5 14:14

Cup of lemonade and two jelly beans

Rich 14:26

out the jelly beans. Okay.

Pat 14:29

That's it. And, and, oh, there's a picture, there's a picture of the table with the jelly beans in these little quarter cups of lemonade. I wish our listeners can see it, uh, but it gets better, the unknown. A mysterious non wonka character described as an evil chocolate maker scared the children.

Rich 14:55

This's a real man. Where'd you find this,

Pat 14:58

bro? It's literally, this happened in Glasgow. This is a real story. I mean, I see you Googling parents paid 35 pounds per ticket leading to crowds demanding refunds. The actor playing Wonka. Also reported feeling misled. The result, the house of Illuminati. Boy, that, that should have tipped you off right there. I mean, you're, you're the house of Illuminati. I mean, aren't these the people supposed to be ruining the world, the evil people? The they're supposed to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Behind all the billionaires, the rothchilds or whatever. Set up in a meth lab. The house of Illuminati canceled the event. Midway, apologized and promised refunds. The incident went viral for being a spectacular failure. The actor playing the Wonka character said she was given a 12 page AI generated script the night before it was told to improvise.

Rich 16:08

Brilliant man. Brilliant.

Pat 16:10

Yeah. And it's even, uh, yeah. No, this is BBC Willy Wonka experience. How did the viral sensation go so wrong? It was built where as the place where chocolate dreams become reality. Featured vivid images of sweetie themed fantasy world. Inspired by the Ronald Dahl character and the recent Wonka movie, it boasted an enchanted garden, a twilight tunnel, and an imagination lab. It was an imagination lab. All right, uh, imagination for meth. Hundreds of parents persuaded to pay up 35 pounds a ticket for an event, which promised surprises at every turn, and the author says, well, that bit was at least true.

Rich 16:57

Amazing. I'm reading about it on Wikipedia.

Pat 17:00

Yeah, but visitors who hope to relive the classic book and media, including the 1971, were left bitterly disappointed. That's crazy. And you, and you see it on it was a little more than abandoned warehouse. A handful of embarrassed actors tried to make the best of some sad looking prompts and a bouncy castle. They had a little bounce house h bounce house castle. The promised chocolate fountains and chocolatey delights were conspicuously absent and children were offered the jelly beans and the half cup as tempers rose. Police were called.

Rich 17:39

Amazing. Amazing. I've got a picture of the empa.

Pat 17:43

You know, you really? Yeah. And it was. Oh goodness. Oh, that is sad. That is is She looks absolutely heartbroken. She probably thought she was gonna get, because you know, when I was in New York and I took acting parts, you know, you always think this is gonna be, this is gonna be your big breakthrough. She's probably told all her family, they probably came. It's like, I'm playing Willy Wonka. This is my thing. You know what I mean? I, you know, I. I, I might can get some SAG after credits doing this. Yeah. Uh, she, she was gonna get 500 pounds. And did you look at the picture of that child? I wish our listeners could see it. She looks absolutely heartbroken. And it was done by a guy named. Billy Cool. C-O-U-L-L. And I mean, this guy looks like a soccer hooligan that came right off of central casting and, uh, let's see, footage circulating on social media. So the man showed a man identified as Mr. Kool by actors involved in the event. He was flanked by security staff as he tried to placate angry parents outside the venue.

Rich 18:52

God, listen to this. This is in a daily mail. I mean, it's sad, like, you know, but there is definitely humor. Parents were left furious when they turned up at an immersive Willy Wonker event and their, their children were left sobbing when it turned out to be a small bouncy castle and a small lollipop. Oh my goodness. Oh. Yeah, that's, um, that's bad man. That is bad. Um, what do you think happened to the Lum Park?

Pat 19:29

She got paid. She looks, she looks completely devastated.

Rich 19:34

Yeah. I mean, it would be, it would be, it would be, it would be a kick in the teeth, wouldn't it? I mean, there's a picture of, yeah, it's just a big warehouse really. Maybe we should do one part. You know what I mean? We could do one called Meth World, but when you turn up, it's, it's actually more like, it looks more like a Willy Wonka experience.

Pat 20:00

Like a, uh, yeah. I think that, yeah, I bet you that would work. What do you think?

Rich 20:06

Yeah, no, I dunno. Ethically, man, I don't think Jesus is gonna be on board with that. But, um, I think, yeah, I loved those stories when I was a kid. And did you have roll DOL over there? Like

Pat 20:16

have what?

Rich 20:17

Rolled Dahl. So he, he's rolled Dahl, so he's the author. He wrote like a series. He wrote like a whole series of children's books. Willy Wonkers amongst them. Um. Right. Willy Wonka, the big friendly giant, the Twits, the witches, uh, George's.

Pat 20:36

Well, I mean, we remember Willy Wonka. Willy won. Wonka was a huge thing when I was young. And then Are you

Rich 20:42

talking about a book or the film?

Pat 20:45

Well, both, well, when I was young it was the book and I think there might have been, uh, some kind of a movie. And then they remade the movie.

Rich 20:54

Yeah, they remade the movie later. They've done it a couple of times, haven't they? But, um, yeah, with Johnny

Pat 20:58

Depp.

Rich 20:59

Yeah, the Johnny Depp one's psychedelic man. You know, I mean, that one's like, that's all very strange. But, um, the original one, who was the guy in the original one? You know, like he was like a really famous actor at the time. Old school. You should know on his paper.

Pat 21:12

Oh, uh, uh,

Rich 21:14

gene

Pat 21:14

Wild

Rich 21:15

Gene Wildman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gene Wild. Yeah, he was great. And what like Wonka was like quite a troubled character, really, wasn't he? You know, you think about it like, he was like a recluse, you know, he was like very obsessive, like, you know, no one had seen him for years, you know, withdrawn from public life, you know, he was like quite like, when you really like, you know, and then these children all make their way into the factory. You know? He creates like this kind of. Mystical allure, like if you can get a golden ticket, you can come into the factory, but then each of the children like a terrible fate befalls them except Charlie, you know, like it's, it's pretty, it's like actually it's kind of pretty like sinister stuff really, when you strip away all the mper and the songs and all the rest of it. But

Pat 22:06

if you then these parents should have known what was coming. Mean, it, it, it actually seems like then it was all set up for, uh, that's the experience. You, like, you're going over to some giant predator's house, I mean, over a dude that has been locked away. People haven't seen him for years. And what is he doing? He's promising candy. He's got everything but a white van and a ski mask and duct tapes, you know, I mean, with, with candy written on the side, uh, and a sharpie. Uh, I mean, they should have maybe kind of seen that coming.

Rich 22:49

Yeah. And you think, I wonder if you'd get made now, man. You think about it, the first kid to, I'm just remembering now, the first kid to, the first kid to go is Augusta's gl, you know? And Augusta's gl, is that like unable to control his, like compulsive overeating? Yeah. That he, he rushes to the chocolate lake and drinks out of it. You know, he can't help himself and then he falls in and gets sucked into the machinery. Right. As a consequence of his own, his inability. Control his base desires. You know, that's pretty heavy chewy. They wouldn't make, they wouldn't make that. Now

Pat 23:22

we're wondering why kids are growing up messed up.

Rich 23:26

Yeah, between that, this was,

Pat 23:27

this was one of our heroes,. I never saw, I guess I never saw the movie actually, since you mentioned it. Gene Wilder said, I read an article on him, uh, not long ago that to prepare for the thing, he didn't do it the way that like they wanted to do it. He, he kind of went away from everybody and he didn't talk to everybody, and he kind of got into character that way. So it must have been a strange character.

Rich 23:49

Yeah, it was, it was a strange, he was a weird guy, man. Definitely, definitely. A lot of old stuff was like, that was, well, when you look at it, it's actually quite sinister. Um, yeah. But yeah, it, it's, um, you know, that's a big part of my childhood. Those books, like, I read loads of those, but I'm gonna have to sneeze pat through.

Pat 24:08

Go outta here.

Rich 24:12

Yeah, I love those books. I read them over and over. I always had my head in the book when I was a kid, you know? Always.

Pat 24:18

Did you really?

Rich 24:20

Yeah. Yeah. And I read, I, I read those, I read some of those books probably like 25 times, you know what I mean?

Pat 24:26

Okay. I think I had the, uh, I had the attention span of gerbil. I just, I think I read The Hobbit by Tolkien was the only book I really read from cover to cover. And then I That's a

Rich 24:39

serious book, though.

Pat 24:41

The

Rich 24:41

Heart. Yeah, like, I mean, it's like, it's a proper, you know, it's not a, it is not a kid's book per se, is it? He was quite a serious writer in his way, you know, like, Lord of the Rings is like, it's huge, isn't it? Like that's, yeah.

Pat 24:56

Well it

Rich 24:56

became huge.

Pat 24:58

Yeah. I, I read it.

Rich 25:00

I mean, it's a big book, Patrick, like, it's a big like.

Pat 25:06

What are you saying? I'm not, ca you're saying My 10th grade education didn't make me capable of, uh, of reading a big book without pictures.

Rich 25:16

I'm just saying that Yeah, maybe I assumed something along those lines. You know,

Pat 25:25

it's when I wanted to apply myself, but it was the, it was the fantasy, I guess of the, of the Hobbit. I stopped, I started reading it. I read it, and then I read all three of the books. And this was long before The Hobbit and the trilogy was cool. And we were also playing Dungeons and Dragons. I don't know if you, if you played that game. Or heard of Dungeons and Dragons?

Rich 25:47

Oh, yeah. No, we had that, so I wasn't quite that. Look, I was not a cool kid by any stretch of the imagination, but I wasn't quite that uncle, uncle to play Dungeons and Dragons. There's a certain type of kid that played that over here, and, and I, I wasn't, I wasn't one of them, you know, I hadn't Oh,

Pat 26:06

you're saying, you're saying the Dungeons Dragons is was kind of a nerdy thing.

Rich 26:10

Yeah. Extremely nerdy. Extremely nerdy. Yeah.

Pat 26:15

Do. I appear that I was a nerdy. Child when I'm s selling drugs and stealing cars at 13 weren't doing that. Richard,

Rich 26:26

that's So maybe it's like a different, maybe it's a different, like maybe it was different over there. You know what I mean? Like maybe, I dunno, maybe, maybe in your open air drug markets that you seem to have a lot over there, like maybe on the corners what, instead of like rolling dice against the walls, the guys slinging the crack and the meth. They've got like 24 sided dice and they're actually playing dungeon and dragons. But

Pat 26:48

yeah. Yeah, that's it. Well, to be fair, we did it when we were in, uh, in high school and we were not, I don't know how the best to say this, but we were not sober when we were doing it. In other words, we had, all we had done, we, we were in a poi. We were had done something to expand our imagination when we started playing the Dungeons and Dragons.

Rich 27:11

Come on, don't pus your foot around Pat. Gimme the juicy details. What has you taking?

Pat 27:16

Well, yeah. You know, we, we would go out in the fields. The cow fields in Mississippi and these mushrooms would grow. Alright, first off, disclaimer, Richard and I are both redeemed by the blood of Jesus, and we don't do this anymore. Not promoting this by any stretch of the imagination, we're just recounting history. So in the fields would be. And the cow fields would be a mushroom. And you would go out on Saturday morning and you would pick the mushrooms and you'd pinch the bottom. And if, I'm not gonna tell you in case there's anybody out there that has it, but if it turned a certain color, you took it back and you boiled it and, and then you made put Kool-Aid in it. Yeah.

Rich 27:59

Yeah.

Pat 28:00

And then you drank.

Rich 28:01

Yeah.

Pat 28:02

And then you literally could sit on the pier by a lake and watch Moby Dick coming in and out, coming in and out of the water, uh, over and over. So maybe that was what our Dungeons and Dragons would have a little bit of a, would have a little bit of a.

Rich 28:18

Yeah. Now that I could have got on board with, now we didn't, we had mushrooms. I mean, mushrooms are a big thing over here now, but like we, you know, I did lots of mushrooms when I was a kid. I, I had good times with mushrooms. I, you know, I can't lie, you know, all the, you know, my drug use got really problematic and dark and seedy and awful in many ways. But I mean, doing mushrooms with my, with my friends and. You know, all that stuff. That was, you know, I had some, I had some good times doing that stuff. We don't got times doing that stuff.

Pat 28:42

Yeah. We don't really wanna glamorize the mushrooms, but I can look back and laugh on the, uh, it was a little bit dangerous 'cause you didn't know what you were out there. You were out there picking. But I, I do remember spending 12 hours staring at a Billy Joel album. Yeah. Watching his face. Moved.

Rich 29:01

We, I remember there was a night when we were all, we were all doing mushrooms, right? And like someone had a, came with a big, like a kind of grocery store size bag full of mushrooms, right? And so we were brewing them up and brewing them up and brewing 'em up much in the way that you described. But, so instead of using Kool-Aid, we'd put sugar. Because for the, and the reason, well,

Pat 29:22

that's what we did. It was just sugar. You just put co you put a bunch of sugar and you just put some store ball, Kool-Aid, if you remember that from when, you know, when you were young.

Rich 29:30

And it just, it took the edge off of the dreadful flavor. Right. So it made the drinkable, yeah. So, but then we ran outta sugar. Right. And there's like, there's like one cup each left in the pot. Yeah. And it's been stewing like all night. So it's like basically like the consistency of like tar. Yeah.

Speaker 5 29:47

Yeah.

Rich 29:47

And it is like. It's gotta be done, hasn't it? Do you know what I mean? And I remember, I, I took this, this shot of this mushroom stuff and it hit my stomach, right? And I have never been so sick in my entire life, right? Like, never been so sick. So now I'm feeling really, really ill. Like, you know, like you say, like, you know, and so like to the listeners, like, yeah, of course. Like it's dangerous. You know, like the, what we're talking about is, you know, illegal and comes with a lot of dangers attached to it, right? So like this, I've basically, at this stage, I've like poisoned myself. Do you know what I mean? My stomach's going into cramps. Yeah. And like, I'm not feeling too good at all. Anyway, I managed to extract myself from the bathroom, come back into the front room in the flat, the apartment I'm in. And all of the lads that I'm using with using these mushrooms with have decided that what they're gonna do in the middle of this trip. Sit down and watch the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, right?

Pat 30:45

No.

Rich 30:45

Yeah, yeah, right.

Pat 30:46

Oh,

Rich 30:47

I got about 10 minutes in. Right. And like Pat, like, you know, I did a lot of very foolish things, right. But like in my life, and I've done, you know, walked into experiences that I knew weren't gonna be good for me and done it anyway, you know, time and time and time again. But in this instance, I know that's sitting there. In the grip of like this, you know, multi houred, multi-layered mushroom trip while watching, um, watching the Texas Chainsaw Massacre was not a good move for me, so I left, but then I'm walking and so I'm walking, I'm trying to get home, and I'm walking and I'm walking, but I'm so sick and all, all I want is some water. I remember like walking past this puddle, but it started raining and I walking past this puddle and looking at it and really like having to weigh up. It's like, am I gonna get down on my hands and knees and drink water outta that puddle? 'cause I'm so sick, I just, I need to get, I need to hydrate. You know what I mean? I looked at, you know, I weighed up anyway. I didn't, didn't drink water outta the puddle, but God. But man, I was ill for days. Like three days of voice myself for, yeah. Yeah.

Pat 31:48

So for the kids out there, let this be a lesson to you.

Rich 31:51

Yeah. Don't, don't do the mushroom.

Pat 31:52

We, we remember it just like we do a lot of things from the childhood. You remember some of the things finally, but it was bad and it was dangerous. I do remember once watching the Super Bowl, you know. National Football League, super Bowl. We're all sitting at my house right outside of town, about 19, and we have indulged in the mushrooms and we're right at the peak, and that was one of the problems with the mushrooms was it's not a dose. You just look in there, you don't know how much do you drink? Do you drink four ounces, six ounces? You've always got, you know, Carl the courageous, look at this, I'm gonna drink. You know, and then this guy's mind never came back, you know what I mean? And so you don't know until, well, you take it fact, you don't know if you took too much. You don't know if you took a little or whatever. But we had taken a little too much. We're watching, we're just sitting and watching the, the ball, the football game. And my friend Gary, my roommate. Went. We didn't notice him leaving. And do you remember the, what was the, the, there was a movie with, uh, Patrick Swayze where they all were wearing these, maybe the dead presidents. They wore these masks like Ronald Reagan, you know, and they would rob.

Rich 33:03

Break.

Pat 33:04

Yeah. Yeah. They would wear, they, they would wear these masks, these kind of scary looking, uh, president's mask to rob the banks. And so we're all sitting there in this fragile state, and Gary jumped into the room with a double barreled shotgun in a Ronald Reagan man. And pointed the gun into the room at everybody and started screaming and just, ah, and I mean, you would've thought we were going out of windows. We were run, we were running out in the street. I was wearing just a pair of pants with no shirt. I'm run. I, I'm, I got a quarter mile down the road from my house before I realized what had happened. One of the scariest things in, that I had, uh, had ever experienced.

Rich 33:49

Yeah, that's a fright, man. That's a fright. Definitely. I mean like when we was at, when I was at school, there was like rumors of a kid in the other, you know, the school down the road that was like taken too much acid and mushrooms and Yeah. Thought he was an orientation well spent his life in the psychiatric hospital Yes. And all that

Pat 34:04

kind of stuff. Yes. And yeah, in all seriousness, I do know a guy, very smart guy all the way through school. Went to, uh, went to a top university freshman year, uh, and did some LSD and it, and never came back from it. Never changed., Fortunately, you and I managed to end up normal quotation marks from our times walking into cow fields. Did that, uh, is that where y'all got 'em? Y'all went out into cow fields?

Rich 34:34

So there, yeah, there's a big story behind that. But essentially like there was a guy. That we knew that would just, would just, let's just say like this. He would turn up periodically, you know, but he would like, I dunno exactly where they were coming from, but he would have like what seemed like a limitless supply of mushrooms. Like it'd come with like a huge, like a bin bag. Well,

Pat 34:57

it was a farm, so you, it's the same, I guess it grows the same way it did in America. It was

Rich 35:01

a farm. We

Pat 35:02

went out.

Rich 35:03

He used to come with like, you know, like a gallons of them, you know, and then we would, yeah, we would take it from there. Really, that was the big mushroom phase that I went through was when, when we had access to this guy, yeah,

Pat 35:17

you'd get out in the morning and you would just go walk through and you would plan that's what you were going to, that's what you were gonna do. Well, we didn't see,

Rich 35:25

we were much more like retail consumers, you know? Whereas obviously out there in, you know, the wild to flight. It's not happening. Yeah. You're, it's just really simple.

Pat 35:34

You grew up in Oxford. Yeah. You, that's what you, that's what you do. Simple,

Rich 35:38

simple farm folk.

Pat 35:39

Yep. Academic capital of the world. You're refined, you're sitting around, you're waiting for the guy to bring the mushrooms. Me and my buddies are, are up early in the morning humping the cow fields, stepping past cow manure, picking them themselves. I think that is a, a. Pretty good,, juxtaposition of the two of us right there.

36:02

Yeah.

Pat 36:02

We had to go, we had to go do it ourselves. Upper cuff Brits, they're gonna bring it over here.

Rich 36:06

Yeah. Well we had a guy, we had a guy. He would come and he would like, he would have white gloves, you know, like a black suit. And then he would have like a silver plate with like, you know, like a, a dome, a silver dome cover on it. Oh yeah. Lift it up. And they, they would be there prepared. A little garlic. Yeah.

Pat 36:24

Very clinical

Rich 36:24

garlic butter. Yeah,

Pat 36:26

yeah, yeah,

Rich 36:27

yeah.

Pat 36:27

We're pulling them, we're pulling them right outta the cow patties and going back, washing them, washing them in the mobile home, and, uh, they going off into never, never land

Rich 36:37

in the double wide. Yeah.

Pat 36:39

Well, boy, the artist, go ahead.

Rich 36:41

What is a double wide trailer?

Pat 36:45

It is a trailer that's double wide. Okay. Imagine, imagine a trailer.

Rich 36:54

Yeah.

Pat 36:56

And it's twice the size. Okay. Double wide

Rich 36:58

because it's a big trailer. Right,

Pat 37:00

right.

Rich 37:02

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Double trailer.

Pat 37:04

So, so it's gonna be, it's gonna be big. You got, you have your regular trailer, you've seen 'em, right. You, you don't have trailers in.

Rich 37:12

We

Pat 37:13

have mobile homes.

Rich 37:14

Yeah. Sort of not like you do, it's not, you know, it's a much more of a kind of minority pastime over here. Whereas obviously in America it's, it's quite a, you know, like a, a way of life. Um, but yeah, we have, we call them like static homes. Um, but yeah, this different, different setup over here.

Pat 37:32

You can have a trailer park. Um, actually you could slip a nice crib in a trailer, The double wide is a pretty nice, you can have a three bedroom. It's a big living room, big kitchen. They fit 'em, they outfit them very nicely. Now, uh, the only thing that makes me nervous is, you know, when the tornadoes start rolling through.

Rich 37:51

Yeah, you're dumb full, aren't you?

Pat 37:52

That you, you know, you're not gonna be in a good, in a good shape there, but you've, you, you've never seen a double wide trailer.

Rich 37:58

I haven't spent that much time in American trailer parks. You know, I've spent time in America, but like I've tended, you know, it's not really come up on any of the kind of tours I've done or anything like that. Is the trailer

Pat 38:09

park, I'm making a note of it for when you and Sharine visit. Yeah,

Rich 38:13

man.

Pat 38:14

Going to trailer park and the, you know what's crazy where Pine Grove is with the place where we met, used to be one of the biggest trailer parks in Hattiesburg, Mississippi.

Rich 38:28

Oh, what the site of that hospital? Well, the main hospital or the, um, the main, no.

Pat 38:32

Right there.

Rich 38:32

There

Pat 38:33

no. Right there. No. Right there. Where I, where I picked you up? That whole corner. That whole area up there. And that area was Atri Park?

Rich 38:39

Mm-hmm. Well, I never, Patrick Local histor. You can add local historian to your list of accomplishments.

Pat 38:48

You have no idea. You have no idea the history that I have. I am a bit of a histor. I probably know more. I probably know more British history than you do. I'm not, well, no, you went to Bath University, you probably had to take a few courses, but I, I know it because I, I would actually skip school and go read my history book. But I do like the, the, the history and, uh, I happen to know where the trailer park was located. And it was, it was right there.

Rich 39:12

Patrick,

Pat 39:13

double wide. Two

Rich 39:15

double wide.

Pat 39:16

Think about, think about

Rich 39:17

it. That could be, that could be a nickname for you.

Pat 39:20

Double wide.

Rich 39:21

Double wide. Yeah. I like that. What do you think?

Pat 39:24

Not feeling it?

Rich 39:26

No. Okay.

Pat 39:27

I don't know. I could come around though. Double wide. Here comes double wide. Yeah.

Rich 39:32

Yo, yo, double wide on

Pat 39:33

the stage.

Rich 39:34

You wanna

Pat 39:34

come

Rich 39:34

play some? Yeah. You wanna come play some dungeons of drag is double wide here, man.

Pat 39:40

Yeah. I don't know if I'm feeling it and, but I'll give it some thought. Speaking of giving it some thought before we close. Last week I had a brilliant idea and you've had a week to think about this.

Rich 39:51

Yeah.

Pat 39:52

Buddhist priest,

Rich 39:54

Buddhist priest. Yeah. And you sent me some, uh, some follow

Pat 39:57

up. So your, your thoughts.

Rich 40:00

There are few, um, few thoughts. Um. So I went away and I really, what? I went through a real process, pat. I really sat with it, you know, like I kind of, I, I wanted to know, you know, I inspected myself, you know, on many different levels. Mental, emotional, spiritual, of course. Yeah. Um, I really took time to see what was going on with my project, you know, and just listen. I really listened.

Pat 40:29

You just thought it out. For our listeners that don't know, I proposed Richard and I start a band. We're gonna combine spirituality and metal take off from Judas Priest, me and Richard Band called Buddhist Priest. What's your, what's your verdict?

Rich 40:45

Yeah. I went through all of that and the word there was just a, it was just a word that kept coming to me and I think it was a prompt from the Holy Spirit. Right? But that word was no.

Pat 40:59

Just, okay. Alright. Well this is my last shot at it. I, is it, and this is what I'm, this is what I'm truly feeling. Is it because you're afraid that I won't share the royalties because I was writing on, I'm gonna write all the lyrics straight outta Mandu. Don't tell us what we can't do. Ging of Himalayas. Big time players. You, you're thinking Pat's right? I've, you've seen this movie before. You think I'm gonna come in, start the band, I'm gonna write it all and I'm gonna hog all the royalties.

Rich 41:29

Yeah, you'll be like that car character. Who was it? The one who like Rob to the. They, he features in the Straight Outta Compton film, Jerry Heller, you know, he's just like mistreats and, you know, mis appropriates the funds of his, his young artists. Um, no, it's not that. It's more, it's kind of the opposite. It's along those lines. It's like I don't feel there'll be any royalties because I think it's such a poor idea and like almost clinically deranged and I just think. You know, personally, I think it might be a waste of your time. And I'm very confident, very confident it will be a waste of mine. So yeah, for those reasons, for that, uh, among many others, it's, it's still a no,

Pat 42:15

no. Royal Albert. No. Royal Albert Hall, no. Sitting in the same dressing room where Mick, and. John Paul, Ringo and George's not gonna happen. We're not even gonna have a greatest Hits album, so, alright. Alright. Tell what I'll do, I'll work on, I, alright. I'm an idea guy. I'll work on, I think maybe we'll try, uh, as a country duo, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll work on something.

Rich 42:39

Maybe go and speak to your pastor. Yeah.

Speaker 5 42:44

Okay.

Rich 42:45

Speak to him. Taking your original ideas. Any further thoughts and just, I would just encourage you to live in consultation around this part. That would be if we were working together. As therapist and client might, would be like, you know, go and do some outreach and let's go and, you know, talk to some other people. Like, just, just get some other opinions and insights on this. Just to just, yeah, just see what other people see when you show them this.

Pat 43:11

I don't know. I don't know if I'm gonna do that because I shared it with my wife and I got a, sometimes you have a mind that, that is, is. So artistic that mortals normal, you know, don't, can't grasp, they can't see it. I can't see it. And that's gonna be you. And that's gonna be my wife, Gwen, because I, I had a very similar response. So I'm, we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna bury it. And then maybe a country duo, maybe something called like bar Girth or something. Hey, do you know there's a, uh, there was a country duo from Ireland called Logue and McCool. You never listened to them, did you?

Rich 43:52

No, never.

Pat 43:53

Don't even know. All right. One was blind, one was in a wheelchair, and so I don't know which one of us will do one or the other, but, uh, but they were pretty successful when the Cowboy Rides away. Beautiful song.

Rich 44:10

And honestly, the more you talk about this idea, it makes me like, I feel like blinding myself, you know what I mean? I feel like just taking this bio and just like jamming it into my eyeballs over and over again just to make it stop.

Pat 44:22

Okay. Alright, well, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna ju I'm gonna say that's, it's a little iffy at this time at Buddhist priest. I'm gonna just put it on the back burner. So I think we're a little out of time. Boy, did this go haywire? I did not have, I did not have childhood mushroom experiences and, uh, but I guess. The fact that we, we now find out they had weird that Willy Wonka and the things they were showing us as kids were total freaking weirdos. There was no, no surprise we were walking through cow pastures or you sitting there waiting for, uh, Dr. Shroom. To show up. So let's wrap things up and remind everybody that the path to joy and happiness and peace in life, this life. And the next is a relationship with our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. In any final thoughts, rich.

Rich 45:15

Just that man like you. True. That's where you find true enlightenment. I looked for it in many places, including the bottom of a big bag of mushrooms and I didn't, I didn't find it in any of those places. I found it through coming to Christ. Son. Well said. There you go.

Pat 45:27

We, we did not. We did not. Yeah. Beautiful tie-in. Beautiful. We did not find it in mushrooms. We found it in Jesus. God bless everybody out there, rich. I'll see you next week.

Rich 45:39

God bless.