51. How Worth Shapes the Way We Parent, with Nellie Harden

Why do we react in ways we don’t want to as parents, even when we’re trying so hard to stay calm?

In this episode of Your Calm Parenting Path, Nina is joined by writer, speaker and family life advocate Nellie Harden for a thoughtful conversation about parenting stress, emotional regulation, self-worth and the deeper layers underneath parenting reactions.

Nellie shares openly about her upbringing, becoming a mother to four daughters, and how parenting became part of her own healing journey. Together, Nina and Nellie explore how stress responses, childhood experiences and a sense of worth can shape the way parents show up within their families.

This conversation is honest, compassionate and deeply reassuring for parents who are trying to break old patterns and build calmer, more connected relationships with their children.

You’ll Learn

• Why parenting and healing often happen side-by-side 
• Why self-awareness matters so much in family relationships 
• How to take inventory of what you want to bring into your parenting - and what you want to leave behind 
• The five components of worth and how they shape family connection and communication 
• Ways to build emotional safety and stronger relationships at home 
• How understanding worth, identity and belonging can support both parents and children 
• Practical ways to respond more thoughtfully instead of reacting automatically

Why This Episode Matters
Many parents are carrying stress, pressure and old patterns into their parenting without even realising it. This episode offers a compassionate reminder that parenting is deeply human, and that awareness can help create meaningful change over time. Nina and Nellie explore how understanding worth - both in ourselves and our children - can shape calmer, more connected family relationships.

Small Shift for Big Impact
Nellie reminds parents that it’s never too late for repair, connection and change within family relationships. She also shares how important the first 18 years are, as this is the greatest window parents have to shape connection, trust and leadership within the home.

She encourages parents to intentionally create one-on-one time with each child each week. Even small pockets of focused connection can help children feel seen, valued and secure.

She also suggested reflecting on the following questions:

• How do I feel seen? 
• How do I feel heard? 
• When do I feel invisible? 
• When do I feel silenced? 
• What do I want to leave behind in my parenting? 
• What do I want to bring forward into my family relationships? 

Nellie also spoke about how past trauma and difficult experiences can continue to sit alongside us throughout life. Rather than pretending they never happened, she shared the importance of acknowledging them, being aware of them, and recognising that they do not have to direct the way we parent or live today.

Take the Next Step
If this episode resonated with you, Nina’s free guide So You Yelled, Now What? is a gentle next step for parents wanting to move through guilt and reconnect after difficult parenting moments.

You can also explore one-on-one coaching and mindful parenting support through Mindful Parenting Lifestyle.

Links and Resources

• Connect with Nellie Harden on her website. 
• Download Nina’s free guide: So You Yelled, Now What? 

Let’s Connect
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Have a question or parenting challenge you'd like addressed on the podcast? Send a DM or an email - nina@mindfulparentinglifestyle.com.au

About the Host/s
Nina Visic

Nina Visic is a certified Mindful Parenting Coach, Head and Heart Mindfulness Instructor, podcaster and mum to three boys. Through Mindful Parenting Lifestyle, she supports overwhelmed parents to move from reactive and stressed to calm, connected and confident using mindfulness, emotional regulation and practical parenting strategies. Her approach is warm, compassionate and grounded in real family life.

Nellie Harden

Nellie Harden is a speaker, author and family life and leadership coach who is passionate about helping families build strong foundations of worth, identity and connection. As a mum of four daughters, she brings both personal experience and practical insight to conversations around parenting, emotional wellbeing and family relationships. Her work focuses on empowering families to create healthy, connected homes where both parents and children can thrive.

Transcript

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Nina: You're listening to youo Calm Parenting Path. I'm your host, Nina, a mindful parenting coach and mum, here to help you go from overwhelmed and reactive to calm, confident and connected with your kids. This show is for parents who want to raise their children with more patience, less stress, and a whole lot more joy, because small shifts make a big impact and you can build the parenting life you've always wanted. If you want to see what I'm up to, follow me on Instagram @mindfulparentinglifestyle and don't forget to hit, follow or subscribe so you never miss an episode. Let's get started.

Nina: Hello, lovely listeners and welcome back. Today I'm joined by Nelly Harden, writer, speaker and passionate advocate for building strong families through a foundation of worth. If you've ever found yourself stuck in the yelling cycle and reacting in the moment, feeling the guilt afterwards and wondering why it keeps on happening, this conversation is going to feel very relatable. Nelly brings such a grounded, empowering perspective to family life and leadership. And in this episode, we explore what might really be sitting underneath our reactions as parents and how strengthening something deeper in our homes can begin to shift everything. It's honest, practical, and incredibly hopeful. Let's dive in. Nelly, thank you so much for joining us today. Hello.

Nellie: Thank you so much for having me.

Nina: Oh, it's very exciting. Can you start, Nelly, just by telling us a little bit about yourself and the work you do and what led you into the space of family life and leadership?

Nellie: Yeah, well, that's literally a 47 year storey, but I'll give you the highlights. Um, so, I mean, essentially my dad passed away when I was super young, so grew up with my mom and mom got remarried and so I had this, um, constantly moving, you know, childhood that was always kind of on the move. And I wouldn't say tumultuous by any means, but it was just always something new was happening. And then my brother and sister came along, you know, and so we, we had just a lot of moving parts and when that was happening and, and it was in survival mode for a while for my mom and we were trying to figure things out by the time I was 17 and I, I graduated high school early and went off to school. I really didn't have some of those foundational parts and knowing of myself and trust of myself to build those, those foundations of worth, esteem and confidence. And so when I went off to school seven hours away from home, I really was just grabbing and searching and seeking and chasing worth anywhere I could find it. And Instead of actually holding onto it and knowing it for myself. And that led down some really dark corridors because when that's all you're doing all the time, there's never an end point, there's never a piece point. It's just always seeking, always chasing. And so then fast forward the storey. And I had some really, you know, dark, difficult parts of my past because of that. Now I'm married and I have four daughters within four years. And so now all of my daughters are between 16 and 20 at the time of this recording. So we are in it in the thick of everything right now.

Nina: Yeah, I bet.

Nellie: And I found that during raising them, I was doing so much of my own healing process and trying to filter and discern what is my actual parenting that wants to come through and what do I want to not pass through to my daughters. And so that's been a process I've been on for 16 to 20 years right now. Uh, but in addition to that, we homeschooled for about seven years, and during COVID we really had a bunch of people reaching out to us, asking, okay, how do we do this? How do we not just parent, but we have a whole different role of teaching in our homes and doing all of this. And so I just gradually, very organically, came into the process of, okay, how do we in our homes, practise positive disciplines and really look inward in ourselves in order to look outward in parenting and practise positive disciplines? So that's kind of, uh, the very, very short version of, uh, you know, how I got to where I am today and doing the work I do. Yeah.

Nina: Fantastic. So it sounds like thinking about what you want to take, what you want to let go of. And I think that's such a. An important step when we become parents that we don't often think about, and we find that we end up in a place where we're perhaps parenting in ways that we don't want to because we know what it felt like to be the child in that situation. So I think the fact that you've done that and you're

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Nina: now helping people with that is amazing. And I think it's such an important part of the parenting puzzle. You mentioned earlier that you were chasing worth. Could you talk to that a bit more? What does that mean? And how has your own journey shaped the way that you support families? When you're talking about worth worth chasing?

Nellie: Well, I think part of it has to do with that inventory that you just mentioned. And we'll talk about that in a second. But you know, when you're chasing worth, uh, think about, uh, so I, I went to school, uh, and like I said, I was seven hours away from home, I did not know my roommate and I had no trust in myself and no real outward trust points that I could go to. And when you're building esteem, and esteem really is trust in self and what, in what you're doing and the decisions you're making and who you're becoming and you have to start with outside accountability before you go to inward accountability because and I've done this poll so many times and it's really interesting, uh, those listening if you want to ask your kids too, when you walk into a room, what's the first thing you ask yourself before you make a decision on what you're going to do? And you know, usually it comes down to are they going to like me? Am I going to be funny enough, right, am I going to be whatever, fill in the blank enough, right for these people which then turns you into this chameleon, uh, you know, type behaviour and choices of, well, I don't know who I am. I'm not building who I'm going to be and pre deciding who that is and building who that is. I'm going to be whoever they need me to be. And that's really where chasing worth comes in. And so I found myself chasing accolades, chasing grades, chasing, you know, boys, chasing any sort of acceptance. And my roommate that I was randomly chosen with my freshman year happened to be this, you know, very dynamic party girl. And I was never that person before, but now she seemed outwardly to have more confidence. So I was like, well, I guess this is what we do now. I guess this is college and this is what we do. And so I had no, you know, ounce of trust in myself to know who I was and who I wanted to become that I just became and assimilated what she thought I should become. And that was what was so dangerous and what I see so often happening today when our young women, young men as well, but I especially see this in young women are being released into adulthood and into the world instead of launched and equipped into the world and into their adulthood. And so that then as an adult raising young women, and it doesn't start when they're teenagers or preteens, it really starts as early as you can possibly start it, really helping them understand their worth and trust in themselves and who do you want to become? What would have been a better choice there instead of dictating to them all the time, what would have been a better choice. Guiding them toward their decision. And what would have been a better choice is really the way to go. But you have to do that inventory of yourself to um, understand what do I want to bring into parenting and what do I want to let go of. And you really have to do the self work to drop that baggage. And it is not easy when you've been carrying it around for so, so long.

Nina: Oh my gosh, that is so powerful. Just thinking about what you're saying. And I'm raising three boys and I feel like it's just as important giving them that sense of worth and giving them all that intrinsic self confidence or ability to self lead and to, you know, make the choices that are going to be the best for them. That's amazing. I love it. Don't have much more to say about that. It's just, it's brilliant. Uh, how does a parent's own sense of worth impact the way that they then respond to their children?

Nellie: Everything. It means everything. Because it depends on if you are reacting as an insecure, untethered child really, because you haven't grown into the adult that can truly ground themselves in their own worth or if you are responding to help them. Right. So are you responding in your own insecurity to measure up, to be whatever enough, or are you responding in a way that is building them into who they need to be? And the, this isn't a once and done decision. This is an every challenge, every day decision that you need to make. So, you know, they come home and

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Nellie: maybe they're late or maybe they didn't do their homework or maybe I ran into a situation just hours ago where one of my daughters was, uh, having some challenge in a class and her teacher said, well, if you have some challenge, just let me know and I can help you. And I told her, well, you know, it would be a really good idea. She's offering to help you, so this would be a good idea. And she got all up in her feelings of, you know, pride there. She's like, I have never needed a tutor before. I will never need a tutor. And I was like, honey, you will need a tutor so many times in your life and you best practise, start practising it now, right? Instead of falling into that pride with her, like, yeah, you don't need that. You're good enough, right? You know, you're smart. Instead of that, helping her understand that we all have weaknesses and maybe this, and it's a class that doesn't, you know, even matter. But it's not something that's interesting to her. Therefore, she doesn't, you know, understand it as well, process it as well. And so she needs to be able to be vulnerable enough to ask for help. And teaching them that vulnerability is a strength and not a weakness is really important. And you can't do that if you haven't come to that position yourself.

Nina: Mm. Yeah. I'm thinking as you're talking, I'm thinking about when the child is having the tantrum in the supermarket or in the shops, you know, because they want that toy and how easy it is. You know, we either go into two or maybe three camps, but we, you know, we yell at the child to get them to stop having a tantrum, or we give them what they want, or we let them have the tantrum, and we provide a safe space and let them have the tantrum. And we don't worry about all those people watching us, feeling like we're being judged, that kind of thing. So I feel like it's those three different situations, isn't it? If you look at the young child and so having that work to be confident enough to let your child be in their big feelings, to allow them to work through, to have tools to help themselves in those situations.

Nellie: Yeah, uh, absolutely. And it's not in a, you know, way of. It's okay, you can. You can scream and you can do all of these things in a store. They need to know that that is not appropriate. But if you try hide them, they'll feel like they need to be hidden. Right. There's something about them that needs to be hidden. But you need to help them work through what is happening, not just let them do whatever they're doing, because that's not appropriate either. If it's not appropriate for you, it's not appropriate for them. And we are building them into the adults that they will become, and we can't let them have a different set of standards. Well, you are this old, and so you can, you know, lay down on the floor and scream and kick and what have you. Have you. Because then where. Where does that line then change? And if they're four years or, uh, years old and doing that, and then all of a sudden they're six years old and you're like, oh, you can't do that anymore. You must stop. But you haven't given them the tools and readiness to do that. They will not. And it will become a much bigger problem. So in that scenario that you're talking about, you really want to get down on their level, look at them eye to eye, say, do you really think that this is the best choice? And you, you speak in a stern, calm, loving voice, right, where you're the authority, but you're not overlording over them and, and punishing them and looking down on them or, or giving them, you know, grief. But you are getting on their level and helping them work through that. That's really what you want to do in that situation. So you're growing them, you're building them and you're giving them them the tools,

Nina: building that emotional intelligence and that knowledge of how to deal with difficult situations. Yeah, brilliant. Love it. Okay, so when we think about yelling at our children, many parents feel stuck in the yelling cycle. So they react, they feel guilty, they promise to do better, and then it happens again. Why do you think this cycle is so common?

Nellie: Well, we don't have the tools, you know, many adults don't have the tools themselves in order to do that. We're still working in our insecurities. We have a lot of shame and guilt that we're carrying around that we don't recognise, recognise. And so we don't know how to help them because we haven't been able to help ourselves either. But here's, you know, the trick of everything is when things are not calm, our as adults with fully formed brains, which happens, you know, post 25, with those fully formed brains, our frontal lobe shuts off, which is our area, which is right under your forehead, it shuts off if we are not calm and we start just being very reactive in our amygdala, which is in the back of our brain, which is that fight or flight and freeze

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Nellie: response, and we just get reactive. That's a very dangerous place to be. Just in general, but especially if you are the sole main guide for building someone else's life, that's not a good place to build from. And so I really try to emphasise to all of the parents and people I work with that if you are not calm, it's not the time to speak, you need to calm down. So your frontal lobe, which is your reasoning centre, which is, uh, cost benefit analysis and all your logistics there, uh, you need to be able to get that back online before you can have a working conversation. And if your child's not there and they're not calm, that's okay as long as you are. And you can lead them to become calm and then have the conversation. So if they're wild and they're yelling and they're doing this, you can say it's okay. We're not going to talk right now. I need to go take a walk. Or you need to go take a walk, and we're going to revisit this in 10 minutes, okay? All right? And they can be being, you know, nasty in your face or being rude or what have you, but you must stay calm. And if you're not calm yet, you need to take a walk and come back. So, yeah, that's a double edge. You want to get out of that, because then that just breeds, you know, your shame and your guilt. And then you have to come back and you need to apologise. And every interaction that you have with your child, even if it is 99% their fault, and, you know, they did this infraction and then they said this and then they did this, right? You need to own your 1% of what happened there. There was either some missed clarity of an expectation that was there. There was some reaction that you had. You could have done whatever better, but you come back and you need to own your, you know, one or more percent of that so they learn how to own theirs. And you need. We're the leaders, right? So you have to be the example. So come back, own your part, let them see, apologise if need be, for. For, uh, whatever, you know, you did in that. And then have a discussion about where you can go forward and bring clarity. If there is not clarity at the end of what I call courageous conversations, it will repeat next Tuesday, you know, or whenever. It absolutely will repeat. But if you keep yelling or, you know, being belligerent or. Or even physical or what have you, and you keep doing that, and then maybe you apologise or not, you're going to not build trust with your child. And you cannot guide and lead and be a person in their life that they can come to if there is not trust. Trust must be established. And it's okay to make a mistake, but you have to come back and own it. Right? And that's what we need to teach them, too. So it is a very toxic cycle to just yell, come back. Yell, come back. Yell, come back. Because the trust is broken or never built.

Nina: Yeah, I love exactly what you're saying. And something that I teach my clients as well is all about, you know, you're. You're allowed to yell, but you need to own up to it. You need to apologise. I love the courageous conversations. I might have to borrow that, but just so. Yeah. Because if you just keep doing it and repeating the same cycle it's just, it's almost like a snowball effect. You're just going to get more and more full of guilt and shame if you're not able to come back to it. So that's great. Now you mentioned earlier about worth and being a worth chaser and a parent sense of worth. You talk about five pillars of worth and I'm wondering if you can explain why they matter, uh, in family life and give us a bit of an overview of what they are.

Nellie: Yeah, we all hear, oh, self worth or worth or you should have worth or everybody has worth and you do. But how do we actually tangibly do it? Because that's where it really comes down to like you can tell me until you're blue in the face that I should have something and self esteem and oh, you know, you're beautiful or you could do this or whatever, but if I don't know it, it really doesn't matter. And so I really want to help parents build uh, this worth in them. And we get into those five pillars. I just want to give you a visual here of everything rests on security and safety. Right. And that's where that trust can come in with another person too. But then on top, it's like a three tiered cake. On top of that, if you will, the very bottom big layer is that worth piece. On top of that is your esteem and on top of that is your confidence. And that's where we want to, you know, lead them and so that by the time they leave home, they have that safety, self led leadership and discipline like you had mentioned earlier.

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Nellie: But that really thick chunk of worth, it really has five pieces to that. And that is they need to be seen and heard and loved and belong and have purpose. Uh, when you look back at the history of all people and all conflict and if you open up a newspaper today or turn on the news or go into your child's school or talk to your child, that is what you are going to find. One or more of those is broken or not there. Because when you look at the opposites of each one of those. Right. To be seen or to be invisible. Right. So many of our kids, they feel invisible or to be heard or to be ignored or silenced.

Nina: Yeah, right.

Nellie: To be loved or to feel unloved. Right. To belong or to feel alone and to have purpose or to feel like, what am I doing here? There's no reason, there's no point. Exactly. And so when I really took a look and I have put this to the test, I can't tell you how many times of, uh, all the kids that I work with, my own children, the world news, our local news, one or more of those things is missing. And it's never more than those things. I have never ran into anything that it. One of those at least wasn't the answer. And that gives you then the tool to say, okay, we need to go in and help her feel belonging. We need to go in and help him feel and see that he is loved, right? We need to go in and actually listen to him because he's been silenced or ignored for way too long, right? And when you don't have those five pillars of your worth that are being built up, you start to grow resentment and sadness and depression, and you, uh, become a recluse, right? And so those five things are really important and they could be some of the easiest, most simple solutions, like being seen, is putting down the device and looking them in the eye when they walk into a room, right?

Nina: Yes.

Nellie: Say their name. A different part of their brain will light up. And, um, there's been great studies on this. But a different part of their brain. Brain lights up when their name is said. And so just truly ask them about what is going on. And don't take fine as an answer. I call that one of the bad F words of the. You don't want to take that, you know, and so when my child comes home or, uh, I pick her up or what have you, and I say, hey, you know, Lana is one of their names. Hey, Lana, you know, how was your day today? And they know better by now, so they wouldn't say this, but, you know, uh, fine. And I'm like, oh, well, what was fine about it? You know, so just ask deeper questions and dissect some things. And the more you get to know your child, because we've gotten into this habit of coexisting with them and not really knowing them and helping them build into who they will become. But the more, you know, the more questions you can ask, oh, how was that test in government today? Or, you know, how was that lunchtime conversation that you were going to have today? Or, you know, just getting to know them in their world. And so that's really important. But, yeah, making sure that you can ask those questions, uh, when they come in and helping them know that they are seen, heard, love, belong, and have purpose. Chores. Chores are a great, you know, way to help them have ownership of something at the home. And know I rely on you. We rely on you to do your part in our home so that you have ownership over that. Right. That is yours to do. And that creates belonging, really helping them understand their roles as big sisters. Big brothers, little sisters, you know, big sister. I don't know. Little brothers. There you go. But having them really have ownership in that and say, well, you know, I can do this as their mom, but you can do this as their, you know, big brother or sister or what have you. And that creates ownership and presence in the home. So there's so many really easy, simple, tangible things you can do to make them know those five pillars of their worth.

Nina: Oh, uh, I love that. I make a habit when my boys get home from school. They all get a hug and I'm so glad to see you. I missed you today. I'm really happy to have you home again. You know, tell me about your day, what book you're reading. How was playtime? That kind of thing.

Nellie: Absolutely.

Nina: And, uh, what you were saying about the five pillars and how thinking about the. The opposite of the five pillars

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Nina: was making me get a bit emotional as you were talking, because I just, I feel for those children that aren't able to have those five. Not, you know, missing one.

Nellie: Yeah.

Nina: But then I'm also thinking of the parents that are missing one, and, uh, thinking about ways that we can ensure that we get those five pillars as well. Do you have any examples of how a busy parent could make sure that they are having their five pillars full or present in their life?

Nellie: Yeah, absolutely. And so, uh, through friends and spouses, faith is a huge component to this for so many people, myself included. Right. To find a grounding in your worth through your faith, and then you're not seeking it out in the world, because, let's face it, the world and people are fickle, and they're always going to let you down. So finding it in a steady faith is going to be able to keep you grounded. But your hobbies and what you're doing in order to fulfil yourself, really asking yourself, how am I fulfilled? But doing an inventory again, uh, having it be a part of that. What do I want to leave? What do I want to bring forth? But I have journal writings that I go back to each year. How do I feel seen? How do I feel heard? Right. And then exploring those things a little bit more. And you can even go to the opposite. When do I feel silenced? Right. When do I feel invisible? And for a lot of people, me definitely being included, uh, we carry around past traumas and dramas, and that then can be reflected throughout the rest of our entire lives. And we need to be cognizant and understanding of those. And, you know, if our life is an entire arena, that trauma, that drama that you have in your life will always be there. No matter how much you've recovered from it. It will never leave. But you can always be aware of it and say, okay, I see you. That's your seat over there. You can sit there and watch my life. You're not in charge of my life, you're not directing my life, but you can sit over there and I see you. Right, yes. And so you're keeping an eye on, uh, an eye on those things. But yeah, I would say faith is one of the cornerstones that you want to do in order to explore, in order to fill those.

Nina: I think that's beautiful. And I might put some, um, of those questions in the show notes so that anyone that's wanting to do a bit of journaling can actually think about some of these questions and dig a little bit deeper because it's just so valuable. Yeah. As we come to the end of our chat, Nelly, uh, if you could leave parents with one small shift that could create a big impact in their home this week, what would you recommend?

Nellie: I would, number one, tell you it's never too late. Uh, so if you have a 3 year old or a 10 year old, an 18 or even a, I don't know, maybe you have a 36 year old, it's never too late. We want to get in there and help shape and build them as much as we can within the first 6,570 days. That's how much, uh, how many days are in 18 years. But in that 6570, why that's so important has to do with brain development, it has to do with community, it has to do with culture, and it also has to do with the fact that that's the most time you will ever spend with them. By the time they get to the end of that 65, 70, it breaks your heart. But overnight you've already spent, um, about 90% of the time that you will spend with your child in that time. So that's your biggest window for impact and leadership that you can have there. Uh, so that's what I want to say first. It is never too late to get in there. But also something I recommend for everybody is to have weekly one on one time with each of your children and make it be scheduled, intentional and consistent. And so every, you know, Monday and Thursday in our home, we have four kids. One of them's even off at university and so we do FaceTime, but we, uh, we have one on one time with them and we sit down, uh, my husband goes in one, I go in another, and then the next week we switch, you know. But my kids know that every week they will have time with mom or dad and we will sit there, we will ask questions, we will get to know them. And it's not just about them, it's about our relationship. So you talk about yourself too. What you're going through, what questions you have, have them speak into your life and you speak into theirs. And that's what builds this trust and relationship between the two of you that you can't get any other way around. A dinner table or kitchen, you know, and those are important too. Very, very important. But the one on one time is

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Nellie: where things are really going to grow. So that's excellent.

Nina: Great tip. I was going to ask how you manage it with four. I struggle with three. I was wondering how you do it with four. But I think, you know, it's the desire and the want and the need to do it is there. You'll make it happen. So I think that's.

Nellie: And the kids really start to look forward to it too. And every time is different. Sometimes you have to have serious conversations and those courageous conversations we talked about. Sometimes you're just sitting there having fun and sometimes you're asking, you know, what hobbies, let's do it together. It's just different every time. But consistency is key, right?

Nina: Love it. Thanks, Nelly. Yeah. Listeners who resonate with everything that you've said today and want to learn more about your work, where can they find you?

Nellie: You can find everything on my website, nellieharden.com I try to. Life is complicated, so I like to keep it easy. You can find everything there, including our social channels on Instagram, uh, and Pinterest and things like that. So you can go to the website, but really get connected with our weekly emails. That's the best way to get just feed coming into your home every week and insight. And again, that relationship that I'd love to build with you.

Nina: Oh, uh, I love that. Thank you, Nelly, thank you so much for being a guest. You've shared so many pearls of wisdom and I'm really excited to share all these with the listener. So thank you so much for your time today.

Nellie: Oh, thank you so much for having me.

Nina: Now, what I loved about this conversation with Nelly is a reminder that yelling isn't just about behaviour, it's often about something deeper. And when we begin to strengthen that deeper foundation, in ourselves. When we look at our worth and in our homes, everything starts to shift. If you found yourself nodding along at any point like I did, I just want to remind you that you're not failing, you're learning and small shifts really do make a big impact over time. And lovely listener. Thank you for being here and for doing this work. It matters more than you know. See you next week.

Nina: Thanks for Listening to youo Calm Parenting Path. I am so glad you're here and I hope this episode gave you something useful to take into your parenting journey. If you'd like to dive deeper, sign up to my mailing list@mindfulparentinglifestyle.com for more tips and insights. Or book a free chat to learn how we can work together. And don't forget to hit, follow or subscribe so you never miss an episode. I look forward to speaking with you next time on your Calm Parenting Path.

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