40| In The Words of Garth Brooks...

We share why we paused, what changed in the clinic, and how we’re choosing quality over hype. Recent cases highlight hormone patterns, parasite finds, and a better intake flow that reduces overwhelm and improves outcomes.

• word‑of‑mouth referrals are where it's at
• new boundaries for first visits and outside labs
• recent prolactinoma and hyperparathyroidism patterns
• targeted stool PCR leading to clear parasite diagnoses
• thyroid nuance with free T3 and reverse T3 testing
• why catch‑all “hormone balance” supplements can backfire
• A2 dairy, labeling, and real‑world tolerance
• upcoming gut master series and expert interviews

Relevant, but random: 

-Garth Brooks Facebook Intro Video (for real)

-Kevin Mallone, "A fluke is one of the most common fish in the sea"

-Giardia LAM-BLI-A [kate was reading it lower case, ok?!]

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Transcript

Welcome And Disclaimers

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Welcome to Facilitated, where we bring you real stories, strategies, and science from the world of functional medicine. I'm Dr. Mitchell Rasmussen, a functional medicine practitioner.

SPEAKER_01 0:11

And I'm Kate Darty, a certified nutritionist. We are the owners of the facility, a functional medicine clinic here in Denver, Colorado.

SPEAKER_03 0:20

We help people improve their biology and get out of their own way. In my view, our work is about getting to know the person with the condition much more than it's about understanding which condition the person has. As I always say, diagnose the biology, not the disease.

SPEAKER_01 0:36

On this podcast, we break down complex health topics, share real patient cases, anonymized, of course, and explore cutting-edge wellness strategies so you can make informed decisions about your health. Quick heads up before we dive in, this podcast is for education and general information only. We're here to share insights, not to diagnose or treat. So if you're dealing with a health issue, chat with a qualified healthcare provider before making any changes. All right, let's get into it.

SPEAKER_03 1:14

Good morning.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

Hello.

SPEAKER_03 1:16

We're so bad at starting podcast episodes.

SPEAKER_01 1:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:23

Did you ever see the Garth Brooks Facebook intro video?

SPEAKER_02 1:30

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:31

And he starts with I wasn't sure if I was gonna do this. That's what I was thinking as you hit play. Is that everyone should go Google the Garth Brooks Facebook intro video? I could say it word for word by heart.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

Why?

SPEAKER_03 1:46

It's so funny. You have to watch it. Yeah. Those of you listening, go check that out. While we're here.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

Took a little break.

SPEAKER_03 2:02

Yeah, yeah. Uh six, eight weeks. Yeah. We were, what do we do? 31 straight weeks or something like that. Before that.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

I think it's like well, I think it's like 35. 35 episodes, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:21

What happened?

SPEAKER_01 2:25

It's no secret that I don't enjoy this. But also we just hit a point where we were kind of overwhelmed with patient care, running the business, holiday season, and something had to drop off our plate, and this was the thing.

SPEAKER_03 2:48

I think it was easy to drop this because if I'm not Ura about it, it's easy for you to be like, oh, we're not doing it.

SPEAKER_01 2:57

Yeah, but I don't think you understand the work that goes into it. You show up and we record an episode and then you're done with it.

SPEAKER_03 3:03

Well, you know I understand it. I just don't it just doesn't take that much for me.

SPEAKER_01 3:09

It takes a lot to go from what we're doing right now to what listeners are hearing. Part of it is because I have very high expectations for myself and I want the editing to be done. I want the show notes to be done well. I want all of the links to be working, I want to publish an blog post article that puts everything into words for people who are more reading inclined versus listening inclined. I want all of it to and then I the Instagram, the social media marketing side of it, it kind of feels futile to record an episode and post it on a platform without talking about it. So I feel like that has to be in place, and so it was all of those little pieces that add up to a huge chunk of my time every week to get it done. So that's what had to drop off.

Quality Over Quantity In Growth

SPEAKER_03 4:09

Yeah. And then we, I mean, truth be told, we weren't really sure that it mattered to be doing it, and then I it was interesting because we got some feedback from people, and I couldn't believe they were actually like enjoying it. That's that like imposter syndrome or something. Like we got some interesting feedback, and it's like, dang, like it doesn't it's okay that there's not you know half a million listeners. There's some people that are getting to know how to help themselves and how to send other people to us to be helped, and like that's kind of what the point is share the message of how to take care of yourself and how things work in the body and how we see how things are connected. So that was inspiring to me. We just we had to wait until we were ready to do it again to actually do it. Right. So here we are. Are we ready?

SPEAKER_01 5:06

I think we're ready, and then I think big news flash. We're not trying to be podcasters, we're not trying to leave our clinic behind and focus only on the podcast production. So uh that's another reason. This is always gonna be the thing that probably takes back seat. This in social media, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:28

Yeah. Well, and I mean that's interesting because is that really a good way to grow like a heart-based business, Instagram? What do we keep what did we tell Kurt a couple weeks ago about lead generation?

SPEAKER_01 5:44

We don't want to do it because our very best patients, meaning motivated patients, ready and willing to make the changes that we're going to ask. Patients who understand what we're going to ask of them, are direct word-of-mouth referrals. They are not people who see us on Instagram think, oh, that's cool. Let me try that. So why would we put our energy into that?

Rethinking Referrals And Marketing

SPEAKER_03 6:12

It was an epiphany of sorts when we were having that conversation. Like, wait, we don't want to market to we don't want those people. Yeah, to the general world. We want people who are sent by people that already understand us. And that's like a freeing thing because we're willfully saying that quality over quantity is how we want to get through our careers. And is that the best way to make the most money? No. Uh-uh. But it's a meaningful existence. And I uh that's I mean, just I've been reflecting on that since when was it last Tuesday? It's like, wow, that actually is our heart. Like, no, we don't we don't want 50 new patients in a month from an ad that we place, we want 12 new patients from people that understand what it's gonna take. So and that and that happens and it takes time and it's slow, but um it's just it's the right type of motivated person, you know. I've had I've had conversations with family members who are like, I'd love to work with you, but I already know that I can't do what you're gonna ask. And it's like that breaks my heart because choose your heart, right? You know, how's how's the X, Y, and Z symptoms going that you've had for 30 plus years? Like, yeah, maybe eating like crap is easier in the moment, but I digress. If taking care of yourself is too difficult, yes, we are not the people to ask for help.

SPEAKER_01 7:45

Uh that was a a pretty key behind the scenes change epiphany, what you just said with new patient acquisition, talking with Kurt about that, but some other things that have shifted in our clinic just to catch people up. Um we had not something major that affects people, but uh one problem we were facing towards the end of the year was people bringing in their own lab work. I love that people have access to labs. I don't want to change that. I think these companies, schmunction health and super human and I have yeah, we nobody knows which are. It's great. Access, I'm all for access to health information when you want it, but it was creating a kink in our process because we have a hard time ignoring lab information. We want our patients to understand their labs and trying to cover basic habit change and lab physiology in the same visit.

SPEAKER_03 9:04

Well, and a history. We don't know these people yet.

SPEAKER_01 9:06

Plus the patient history, get to know them, build rapport is completely overwhelming. So we were able to really hash that out and and figure out where our roadblocks were, how it was creating a roadblock for patients really in the overwhelm, and figure out a new system because I do expect that's gonna continue to happen.

Setting Boundaries Around Outside Labs

SPEAKER_03 9:30

Yeah, it's a hard balance, you know. There's a there's a great responsibility to getting information, you have to be willing to interpret it, and that's one of my hang-ups with some of these companies. I think it's dangerous in a way because you you will find things outside the normal range if you run that many things on yourself, and I don't like that these individuals don't really have a actual resource to dive into those together. So I like being there for people, but you come in with you know 15 pages of blood work, and I I've never even had a conversation with you, it it's distracting for me because I want to address it, and now that we have a boundary where you know, if there's something pressing, we got to get a retest or referral to a specialist or something like that, we can do it, but really it's about today is not marching orders, today's what getting to know you, and that's been freeing for us. And it sounds minor on the outside, like how's that so hard? And it's like, well, you saw Kate, I tried. The visit turned into way over, way longer, and we left feeling like we didn't get anywhere. No, all right, it's like if everything's important, then nothing's important, type of yeah. So Shantae helped us get clear on that. The best. Yeah.

unknown 10:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:50

We've got some good people on our side. Think about Kurt and Shantae and like even our family, and like it's pretty cool. Look at this little thing we're creating.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

Some clinic interesting wins and findings, I would say, too. Um I know we've share we tend to share some of these in our monthly roundup email that goes out. If you're not on our email list, get on it. Um but I think some of the highlights that stand out to me are some hormone patterns that have been unique in the last two months or so. Uh I think in prolactinomas.

SPEAKER_03 11:37

Yeah, why are we finding so many prolactinomas?

SPEAKER_01 11:41

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 11:41

We used to not test prolactin.

SPEAKER_01 11:44

Right.

SPEAKER_03 11:44

And over the last year we've tested and we found, I don't know, five that were like really bad. And more that were like watch and see, send to internist, see what they want to do. But yeah, it's been weird. Especially from for from a fertility perspective. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

Oh, the other one was hyperparathyroidism. Yeah, that's a good one. Interesting one. And then a couple times where we did kind of go outside of our process and order stool tests out of order. And we're so glad we did.

SPEAKER_03 12:25

Yeah. Um Clostridium difficile, giardia, uh, di into amoeba histolytica, like kind of weird. Didn't see that coming. Remember the just yesterday we got some results. I could have sworn I was testing for H. pylori. Or, I mean, we tested for that, but that's what I had thought I would find. And then this poor lady, six years of asking for help, colonoscopies, endoscopies, CT scans, you know, we run a simple PCR parasitology test, and we find overwhelming assists. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:04

Iambica.

SPEAKER_03 13:05

Intestinal GRD, yeah. What?

SPEAKER_01 13:07

It was GRD iambica.

SPEAKER_03 13:09

Iambica?

SPEAKER_01 13:11

I think that was the strain.

SPEAKER_03 13:15

I don't know about that. Oh, but it's like I don't I don't have well that's something I've never heard of, so I think you made that up. Iambica? Wow. Good thing I'm not a microbiologist. I don't know. I took one class on that. Yeah, and just even some textbook like people on thyroid meds. Yeah, we should go into that at some point, not today, but just interesting patterns. I'll say this. If you're on thyroid medicine and your symptoms are not drastically better, and maybe you have some side effects, let's look at peripheral conversion of that hormone. Let's not keep pounding more T4. Let's consider a$20 test for T3 and reverse T3 to see if it's the peripheral deiodination that's the problem.

SPEAKER_02 14:10

Great.

SPEAKER_03 14:11

Right? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:14

One of my favorite enzymes. Is it five prime deiodinase?

SPEAKER_01 14:20

You know what's a random story?

SPEAKER_03 14:24

No.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

The other day a patient asked us, we were talking about neurotransmitters, and Mitchell suggested some GABA inducing foods, some foods that help promote GABA production in the brain. And the patient looked at him and said, What is GABA?

SPEAKER_03 14:43

Like, what's the actual word?

SPEAKER_01 14:44

Yeah. Is that an acronym? And Mitchell goes.

SPEAKER_03 14:48

Well, I told her what it was.

SPEAKER_01 14:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:51

And then I said, See, that is why I study these things and try to memorize things. Because someday, 10 years into my career, someone will finally ask me what GAMBA stands for? That's why I made you learn East E G C G.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

At the Gallo Catechin 3 galley.

SPEAKER_03 15:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:10

But that remember how happy I was.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

He was so happy.

SPEAKER_03 15:12

Like, oh my god, it's finally validated. Why finally?

SPEAKER_01 15:15

Someone asked me the question I've been storing in my brain way back there.

Patient Overwhelm And New Intake Flow

SPEAKER_03 15:19

Yeah, that's so funny. Because I called it out in real time. Like, yes, I knew someone someday would ask me a question like that. Because I when I'm trying to understand things, I picture what if uh how much of a conversation could I have if you were a PhD anatomist or if you were a pulmonary doctor? Like, how much can I speak that language? Can I speak enough to understand and know where to send you? And then in the things that we really focus on, can I really deeply understand it? You know, if I have a PhD nutritionist, can I get into you know fiber differences or whatever? You know, and that's exactly why.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

But you also just love the trivia aspect.

SPEAKER_03 15:59

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

See, I notice it, I do it in my daily life when I'm reading words that I'm like, oh, that is a good crossword word. And I will kind of put them back in my brain somewhere. Like random things. I'm thinking about like, do you know the name of the dairy farm where Woodstock was held? Yasker's dairy farm. It's a great crossword word. R-A-Y-A-S-G-U-R. Such a random combination.

SPEAKER_03 16:29

Apostrophe, yeah. So it's a family.

SPEAKER_01 16:32

Yeah.

unknown 16:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

I'm assuming it was I don't know the details except that I know the word.

SPEAKER_03 16:37

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

Or like random town names that are a lot of vowels.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

I thought you were gonna say what was the farm that uh Andy's wedding was held at.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

Are you talking about shrook farms?

SPEAKER_03 16:48

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

Because I I would crush an office crossword.

SPEAKER_03 16:52

Although a while back I did an office trivia with an ex-girlfriend of mine in a bar, and we were so okay, I've watched that show a lot. I was lost.

SPEAKER_01 17:05

Yeah, they have to make it a certain over.

SPEAKER_03 17:11

Yeah, it was too much. It was like the color of the coffee mug in season three episode, like what? Like I can quote the she goes to Catholic girl school, you creeper. All that, like I can do the the those little, you know.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

You wanna you want me to give you a trivia one?

SPEAKER_03 17:32

Yeah, oh yes.

SPEAKER_01 17:33

What was the when the office goes to play trivia? And Kevin has a great answer for one of the trivia questions.

SPEAKER_03 17:48

What was his answer?

SPEAKER_01 17:49

Actually, I'm sorry. It was just his talking head following the trivia, and he talks about a fluke. Fluke is one of the most common fish in the sea.

SPEAKER_03 18:03

What what's what what what are you getting at?

SPEAKER_01 18:06

People say, oh, it was a fluke that I won. Oh Kevin is like that's ironic. Fluke is one of the most common fish in the sea.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

That's funny. Speaking of fish in the sea, do you want to share anything from your recent stool test?

SPEAKER_01 18:22

I don't know. No, I don't.

SPEAKER_03 18:24

Okay. Alright.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

I did I did some recent testing on myself. It was fascinating. I think it's good for both of us to go through the process of testing. Uh especially some of these specialty tests. It helps us to explain to the patient what's gonna happen. Especially when we're talking about stool tests and urine tests and saliva tests. Um, but yeah, I'm interested to get into that more. We can probably record some content about it.

SPEAKER_03 18:54

And my whole statement on that is if you're willing to run the test, you need to be willing to trust the data and do something about it, Kate.

SPEAKER_01 19:03

We have a difference of opinion on a certain bacteria.

SPEAKER_03 19:06

We're not yeah, we're not looking for confirmation bias. We're like, oh, okay, well, that should be that should be worked on, but you're just like, oh, it's probably nothing.

Recent Clinical Patterns In Hormones

SPEAKER_01 19:17

It's my constitution versus yours.

SPEAKER_03 19:20

Yeah. I'm like, well then why'd you spend the money?

SPEAKER_01 19:24

I thought you were when you said fish, I thought you were gonna ask me about my canned fish collection.

SPEAKER_03 19:28

Yeah, what's did you see the DM I sent you last night? That fish I want you to try, go on your Instagram. There's a fish from Sweden that's like canned, and apparently it's the stinkiest. The oh my gosh. It's like skeleton, it's like gelatinus skelet. Oh, it's so bad. Schutelheiser or something?

SPEAKER_01 19:53

Is it canned or is it?

SPEAKER_03 19:54

It's canned, it's in a huge can, though. Oh, interesting. Maybe from Sweden. It's fermented and then canned, but it's like gelatin.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

That's what I was gonna ask, because I thought you were talking about like a more of a pickled fish.

SPEAKER_03 20:04

It probably was, but the guy was like gagging while he was just opening the can.

SPEAKER_01 20:08

Was it my boy?

SPEAKER_03 20:09

No, your fish what is it? No, you mean you decant the fish?

SPEAKER_01 20:16

Yeah, what's his name? Uh uh.

SPEAKER_03 20:19

Fish Life. Fishwife.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

Oh, don't get me started on Fishwife.

SPEAKER_03 20:24

Oh, why?

SPEAKER_01 20:25

Fishwife. Ugh Okay, Fishwife, California Company. They use the same manufacturing plants as some of the most common grocery store brands like King Oscar or I don't think it's Wild Planet, but it's another common grocery store. Season or something. Something like that. And then they put it in a really fancy, pretty box, and then they mark it up. Oh, it's insane.

SPEAKER_03 20:50

Is that legal?

SPEAKER_01 20:51

And then if you have a tinn fish company with influencers or with affiliates and affiliate codes, come on.

SPEAKER_03 21:02

Well, that's like I think sometimes farms will I've heard that this happens that they will, it's cheaper to have all their infrastructure be like organic, but they only label some of them organic and then the non-organic. I wondered sometimes with like vital farms. Like, do they actually separate these? Are they maybe different farms where some of their subsidiaries or whatever are just organic or not? But I read that once about like produce somewhere, like was it lettuce or something that is easier just to have it all be organic, and then they laid and then they charge a premium for organic, but it's the same organic stuff and the non-organic, and that's just like their business model, they lose they still make all the money in the world. I don't know if that's true.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

Okay, well, I went on a deep dive this morning too on manufacturers where it's like the same manufacturing plant with different private labels, whether that's Kirkland. Kirkland private label versus You can have like Kirkland private label crackers versus Ritz crackers kind of thing. I went on a deep dive on that. It's very interesting. Other thing I went on a deep dive on was organic dairy. Because of that patient yesterday. What did you learn? Yes. Uh I'm still confused because I couldn't find recent changes, but I believe it was 2022, I want to say. Maybe. Anyway, they changed it. Changed organic dairy where it used to be if the cow was fed an organic diet for the 12 months prior to producing the dairy that was sold as organic, it counted as organic.

SPEAKER_02 22:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

And then they changed it to from I b it's like a weird point ingestation that the cow has to be fed. So the mother of the cow that's being born has to be fed completely organic to be considered an organic dairy producing cow.

SPEAKER_03 23:05

Well, how long how long would that product, the milk, be contaminated by glyphosate or whatever? You think about like how long would a breastfeeding mother if she drinks alcohol, is it like twelve hours you have to push the milk? I don't know. I don't even know. I've never breastfed before. Um I mean I you'd think it that's kind of extreme. I thought you were gonna say something went the other way.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

No.

GI Testing Wins And Parasite Finds

SPEAKER_03 23:37

Where it's like you just needed to like eat organic the day before.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

Oh, no, no, no. It's pretty strict. Put a lot of pressure on farmers. They gave them like a there's this interesting law about transitioning. Like a moratorium. And so I don't know if something changed where it's going into finally going into effect in 2026.

SPEAKER_03 23:58

Sounds like we're trying to like push organic farming over the edge so it can't exist.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

I also learned through the dairy association marketing bulletin in February. I told you I went deep on this.

SPEAKER_03 24:12

That was my favorite bulletin, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:14

That there's expected to be a surplus of milk coming, but it may be more conventional versus organic. That is the surplus. And then there was also a significant change in what people are purchasing. So skim milk is down three and a half percent, two percent milk is down one percent, organic whole milk is up some percentage based on buying trends. Uh President Trump recently made a new law. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 24:50

I don't think that dude's making laws. I think he's just kind of standing in there. Talking.

SPEAKER_01 24:54

He made a new change.

SPEAKER_03 24:56

He riffed for a while and offended everyone. I'm sure he said some horrible stuff. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

President Trump had to sign it. I'm sure he had nothing to do with it other than signing it, but um new change that now schools can offer whole milk, which previously schools were not allowed to offer whole milk. Did you know that?

SPEAKER_03 25:16

How do you feel about that?

SPEAKER_01 25:18

I think it's a good change.

SPEAKER_03 25:20

Yeah, I don't really do milk. I know. Sucks. Wisconsin boy. But look, when I'm my bachelor party been eating pizza and stuff, it's happening. My eczema's coming back.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

Do you want to know another interesting milk thing? Sure.

SPEAKER_03 25:42

This is a milk episode.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Okay, A2 dairy. Pretty interesting labeling requirements. There was a time, I think it was last year, 2025, uh, India made a change where you could no longer make any claims about A2 dairy on the label. Claims being A2 dairy is easier on digestion. Claims being A2 dairy It's tolerated by more. Yeah, any of those type of things because they said the research around it wasn't robust enough.

SPEAKER_03 26:19

Well, I'd literally had a horrible dairy allergy as a baby, and my mom would drive a long way away to get me goat and sheep milk, which is A2 dairy.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 26:30

And I could not go into horrible, like I don't even know my symptoms, but they were like breathing.

SPEAKER_01 26:37

Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_03 26:38

A to P and like she recorded videos of the noises that I would make when I would sleep and found that A2 dairy didn't do that, so yeah. Big A1 dairy is just going after.

Thyroid Nuance And T3 Testing

SPEAKER_01 26:52

Well, don't worry, this is pro most likely going to be an episode that I do. I mean, I don't know mostly because the episode or podcast episodes tend to be things that we're interested in, we want to do a deep dive on for ourselves so that we can be more educated explaining to our patients, and then it becomes a resource. So we can have a nutrition, we can have a a visit with a patient and suggest I want you to try using exclusively A2 Dairy patient in front of us. What is A2 Dairy? I have a whole podcast episode on that. Let's save our appointment time to get into more. I'm gonna send you the podcast episode on it so that you can understand it.

SPEAKER_03 27:34

I mean, I literally don't get eczema if I drink A2 dairy, so so here's your practical takeaway for the episode today. Eat Alex ice cream. Spend nine dollars for a tiny thing of ice cream with 75 grams of sugar in it, but hey, it's A2. I just told a gal yesterday to do that to get her calcium.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

You did.

SPEAKER_03 28:01

She's like, this is the awesomest doctor's visit ever. So we kind of went on a tangent there. I know, I know. I can't believe you let me do that.

SPEAKER_01 28:15

I know. I got into it.

SPEAKER_03 28:17

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

Yep. You want to tease anything else for what's upcoming in the podcast? What's changing?

Trivia, Learning, And Communication

SPEAKER_03 28:26

Yeah, we've got an awesome interview with Dr. Alex Talibur. She's a very uh smart, uh just like renowned, sought-out neurooptometrist who does who owns a vision therapy clinic, and we're friends with her and her husband, and her husband runs the practice, and I mean they're great people. And we interviewed her, and we're gonna post that. I'm excited about that. I have a deep gut dive series. Is that how we say that? Deep dive gut series that I've created, I've drafted the outline, and it's just a beast because I want to do like another like seven to eleven episodes just on gut, like going so far into practical takeaways, but just really helping you, if you're listening, take it from the nervous system, the immune system, the communication networks, the function of our brush border enzymes, the function of our bile, which bile could be a whole series on itself. I really just want to dive into like all the conversations again that we have with patients that I never get an opportunity in a 90-minute visit, which sounds like I should, but to really dive into like how fascinating bile is, or how fascinating you know TLR4 is. Fascinating. Yeah, look Google toll like receptors and food allergies, and then tie it to the skin. I mean, I am so excited for that, and that's been something a long time coming.

SPEAKER_01 30:08

Yeah, I can't wait to chew on that one and digest that information.

SPEAKER_03 30:13

Yeah, that was good, and I might do that solo potentially, so that I can I don't know. It's a it's a beast, it sounds not that difficult, but I want it to be like a master class and I want it to be coherent. I'm I'm trying to draft it in a way that I can kind of follow an outline or a script that I've created because I'll bounce all over the place. I like I really want it to be like that's the risk we take in solo. Yeah. Yeah, I might do an entire podcast on cortisol receptor down regulation. It's gonna be fascinating. I bet I wonder how many people listened to that one. That was like one of our first ones. I was so excited about and like listen to it back like that is useless. What are you? I mean, what are you looking forward to?

SPEAKER_01 31:04

I think there are some other interviews in the hopper. I really like that style of bringing people who are adjacently related to functional medicine and introducing some new perspectives and bouncing ideas together. I like those. And then, like you said, a little bit more of these deep dives. We'll come up with a better name before we actually do them, but into physiology, whether it be thyroid physiology, hormone physiology, so that as we're explaining lab tests, I think those are useful ones where you can hear it once in the visit, but to be able to go back and reference it to understand, because we care about that so much, we want you to understand your lab markers and what you're seeing.

SPEAKER_03 31:54

Wait, are you saying that hormone imbalance is a real thing?

SPEAKER_01 31:59

Yeah. What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 32:02

Well, that's like the new social media trend. You know, these grifters talking about hormone balance. It's like, well, yeah, a lot of people say those words that are completely, you know, out beyond their understanding.

SPEAKER_01 32:16

But oh, I mean, hormone balance absolutely matters, but you have to know what your hormone levels are to be able to balance. I cannot stand hormone balancing supplements or formulas that are meant to be a catch-all.

SPEAKER_03 32:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:31

It's so different for every single person.

SPEAKER_03 32:34

Yeah, like a good example is you've got super high stress, and then you take licorice. Right? Glyceritic acid, and then that's my whole the these products will have licorice and maca and ashwagonda and koash and you've got it all into there, and then it's like oh yeah, you've got high blood pressure already from your stress, and then you take some licorice, not even knowing what your cortisol is. That's like a prime example of something I can't stand.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

I hate it. And then I get meta annoyed. I think it's meta-anoid because some of the products that we use are called hormone balance or hormone support, and I'm like, ugh.

SPEAKER_03 33:13

But we're using it for a specific purpose.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

Exactly, I know.

SPEAKER_03 33:16

Well, it's the same thing as like thyroid support. People that think they have a thyroid issue that takes supplemental iodine when my opinion is kind of uh you gotta know if you have antibodies, and if you have thyroid antibodies that are really high, I'm not like the biggest fan of supplemental iodine. I think we should get it in a food form. So, I mean, there's just nuance to it. And I think we do a good job of knowing where our knowledge ends and where we need to refer out.

SPEAKER_01 33:45

Agreed.

SPEAKER_03 33:46

Hopefully. Yep. Seems to be working.

SPEAKER_01 33:52

Okay, so got our feet wet today. Getting back in the rhythm.

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SPEAKER_00 34:02

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