Burn-Break&Become Unstoppable B3u

Turning Trauma into Triumph

• Bree Charles • Season 1 • Episode 1

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Some wounds run so deep they become the foundation of who we are. Ashley's story begins with unimaginable loss – her mother murdered by her father when she was just two years old – yet transforms into a powerful testament to the human capacity for resilience and purpose.

Through raw, honest conversation, Ashley reveals how early tragedy created a pattern that would follow her throughout life, culminating in an abusive relationship that mirrored her childhood trauma. The turning point? A profound moment when her young son's simple words – "You did the right thing, Ma" – awakened her to breaking generational cycles of pain.

Ashley's 21-year military journey began as an escape but became a crucible for her strength, earning her the nickname "Pit Bull" for her unwavering determination. Now a successful PR specialist and business owner, she describes the people who've supported her healing as "healing compasses" – guiding her back to positivity when darkness threatens to overwhelm.

Perhaps most powerful is Ashley's message about facing trauma head-on: "You must face your trauma so you can see in front of you instead of always trying to cover up what was behind you." Her journey demonstrates how vulnerability becomes strength when we stop hiding our wounds and start using them to connect authentically with others.

Whether you're navigating your own trauma or supporting someone who is, Ashley's story offers a roadmap for turning pain into purpose. How might your own challenges become the foundation for something meaningful? Listen now and discover how healing happens when we brave enough to share our whole selves.

Speaker 1:

Hello everyone, hello, oh, my God, I'm so excited. I'm so excited y'all. Welcome to B3U. I am your host, marie Charles, and today we have with us my one and only baby girl, my sister in arms, ashley, and I'm so glad she has come on today with us to share her story and enlighten us and empower us today. So welcome Ashley to the show. And where we were, only where.

Speaker 1:

B3u is talking about how we can heal, grow and what and find our purpose in life, and so I know that today's episode is going to be amazing, amazing. So, ms Ashley, she is the owner of AMB Media, so proud of that, she's a public relations specialist. You guys, when I tell you, this young lady here is so talented. I'm so blessed that she has given us the opportunity to share her story, and she is a mother of two beautiful B-E-A-U-T-ful children, which one of them I love so much. He hates to see me coming because I yell his name, but anyway. So, miss Ashley, welcome, welcome, welcome. Tell me, tell me, tell me a little bit, just give me a little background about yourself, even though I already introduced you. Just tell us a little bit about your story.

Speaker 2:

You said a little bit about my story or about me. Just a little bit about you.

Speaker 1:

Like a little bit about you. What else me just a little bit about you. Like a little bit about you. What else did I miss? Something is something I missed, is something you want to share I'm retired military.

Speaker 2:

I did almost 21 years um. That's where we met. Of course, got on your nerve for about a year straight, so we finally just became sisters, you know um yeah, I think I adopted you immediately.

Speaker 1:

I think I adopted you immediately. I was like I love her.

Speaker 2:

She's so mean, I mean, oh, I mean cute plus your kids love me, so you had no choice so that's true.

Speaker 1:

That's true. Yes, so you are. You are a retired veteran.

Speaker 2:

Yes, um, of course, like you said, I have two kids. I have my own um media company. Um, I do pr, but in that realm it's a lot to what I do like I style people. You know that. Um, uh, I help like upcoming businesses with like their social media posts, like should we do this now? When should we do this? Help them come up with different schedules and things like that. And what I do the most really is kind of like um, the best way to say it is I'm the cleanup person, so it's like you know there's something going on with you in the negative realm then then I help to shine light on the positive things you're doing or help find ways to fix it and bring you back into that. Everybody's human. People have things that happen to them and people just need to realize that everybody's human and there are good things about everybody.

Speaker 1:

Again, I thank you for taking your time out. You are hailing from Georgia. What part of Georgia?

Speaker 2:

I am currently in Fort Benning, Georgia.

Speaker 1:

Fort Benning. Fort Benning, Georgia, that's right. So what I would like to, how I would like to, just can you tell us a little bit about your story. You know what your emotional, physical trauma is and how are you overcoming it. How are you? Are you still going through it? How are you going about that? Now, tell us a little bit about okay.

Speaker 2:

So I promised that I would be an open book. Uh, there is a part of my story. I think only you, maybe, uh, my bestie, and maybe my boyfriend only. No, there are not many people in my life that actually know this story, because I don't really open up about it. But my trauma kind of started.

Speaker 2:

Well, the mini traumas kind of really started in my childhood, when I was two. So when I was two, my mother was murdered by someone in our family, um, someone very close to us, which you know. Why not just be transparent? When I was two, my father killed my mother. Um, he was very I don't want to say he was very angry, because it was never towards us, but he was with her. Her, he was more or less like you're mine, you're gonna be mine. Um, it was the day she came to pick me and my sister up and he basically ran us off the road. So with that she was pregnant. Um, her and the baby passed away that day. Um, we had minor scratches or whatever like that. But, um, from there it's like I feel like that's where my trauma started.

Speaker 2:

But then that's when my blessings began too, because at that point, instead of having to go into like homes and things like that. We had an aunt, who I call mom now, who stepped in and she took me and my sister. Now I have two other brothers that I never understood why, but they stayed with my dad because I guess they were not as usually daddy's little girls, but for them it was. That's their dad. This is Nat, and we didn't really know the story of what happened until we got older. To be honest, like, um, I don't think anybody ever told me what actually happened to my mother until I was in middle school.

Speaker 2:

How old were you again? How old were you when my mother passed? Yes, you were what? Two, and my sister was five. Okay, we ran the car.

Speaker 2:

Um, sister still has like vivid memories of the story or whatever. She's still kind of sometimes in cars. You can see her, like you know, clenching up a little bit, but it's, you know, things we have to deal with and every now and again I have my moments in cars. But it took me a long time to realize why that happens to me. Um, but yeah, so my trauma really started when I was a child because of that situation and then it kind of just like the snowball effect, it started rolling downhill to getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, but with all of my trauma. Like I said, I always had, um, what I call them is, uh, like how do you say it? People came into my life. They were like healing slash, like strength compasses. Like they came into my life and because of how they love me or because of how they were always there for me or I can always talk to them, they were like a compass where they always guided me and directed me towards the positive side of things.

Speaker 1:

Okay. Was it ever a moment where you hit, would you say, from your past trauma? Was it ever a moment in your life where you would say you hit rock bottom and how did you start climbing out of that trauma?

Speaker 2:

There really was In this particular situation. I don't like to give that demon any airtime or acknowledgement but it is part of my trauma.

Speaker 2:

I caught myself dealing with somebody that was just like my father. After learning the whole story of what actually did happen, I caught myself dealing with someone just like him and that's when that particular relationship I was rock bottom because to me I was basically trying to convince myself that it's okay, it's my fault, this is the reason he's doing this. It was a horrible experience. It was a very bad domestic violence relationship that I was in.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. Look, we, as women, we go, we experience some things. Some things I tell you. And first I just want to applaud your strength and I want to thank you for your transparency and what in your healing journey? What was the most surprising part of your healing process? When did you start to notice yourself like, okay, I've been through these things because you know, at first you, you know, your mom was murdered. You went through that whole trauma. Then your aunt did you say your aunt? Yes, ma'am, your aunt, who is now your mother? You know you've been dealt with that. And what age did you? Let me ask you, what age did you join the military?

Speaker 2:

What age did you join the military Fresh out of high school.

Speaker 1:

I think I was 17. Why did you join the military? Did your trauma have anything to do with that do?

Speaker 2:

you think my petty side had everything to do with me joining the military. So I had a basketball coach who told me that my attitude was horrible and that I was not. Nobody could tell me what to do. There isn't. There isn't a person out there that can shape me and mold me and tell me what to do. But my mom and I was like, oh okay, let me prove you wrong, went to the military, got through basic training. Then I'm talking about every time I was in St Louis I was at the gym. I'm like still in homie, still in. So the reason I joined the military was really being petty. But on top of the fact, if I have to be completely honest, was I was really running away from where I was, because I don't know if you know where I'm from, but who's not really you?

Speaker 1:

know St Louis, so our viewers don't know where you're from. Our listeners don't know where you're from, so where are you from?

Speaker 2:

I am from St Louis, missouri, by the way of East St Louis Illinois, okay, but listen, I really think joining it was my way of not just being petty for that coach, because he was just one person. But just really was trying to get away from all of that.

Speaker 1:

Get away from running away from the craziness of where I lived and having to see all the craziness that we did see where I was from. Okay, would you say the military helped you in any way with, uh, the things that you've been through in the past. Let me ask you first, do you have any memories of your mom? Do you have?

Speaker 2:

I do so. Uh, my mom, now aunt, who I call mom.

Speaker 1:

I'll call her.

Speaker 2:

And I'll be like Ma, do you remember when such and such and such? And she'll just start laughing. She'll be like that wasn't me baby, that was your mom. And I'll be like oh for real. Like I was literally two years old and I can remember doing stuff.

Speaker 2:

I don't know why it's like stuck in my head, but I can remember having an earring stuck in my ear and having somebody and I'm talking about digging in my ear and somebody you'll be all right, stop whining. And I told my aunt I'm like hope, why would you do that to me? Like we were on the phone playing about I said why would you do that to me? I knew you didn't like me. She's like girl. That was me on the other side saying you'll be all right, but there was your mama pulling the earring out. My mother was literally pulling the little pearl earrings they used to put on kids. Y'all don't put the earrings on them, baby, they get stuck Pearl earrings. I had in my ear Some kind of jammed in my ear and she had tweezers and just was pulling it out. And I still remember that because it's like I haven't worn a small earring since, right so the joining uh 17 join the military.

Speaker 1:

would you say that you're, even though you joined for a different reason. Would you say the military was a part of strengthening you? Because I know, like for me, you know, and my trauma joining the military I was also running away, you know, from things like something had to give and for me, the military kind of gave me that skill, the leadership skill and the skill that I have today. So would you say that the military helped you heal. By any way, I know it added on some things, that I do know I know it added on some things, but would you say that the military kind of strengthened you and and put you on a different journey?

Speaker 2:

and let's talk about the, the military aspect of life um, to be honest, yes, and it's crazy because I joined the military in 2000. It's 2025 and I still to this day. You know, anybody knows me, know, I have a horrible memory. I can't remember what happened yesterday, I think that's every last one.

Speaker 2:

I can to this day remember Drill Sergeant Meredith. I can't believe I don't have a clue what his first name was, but Drill Sergeant Meredith, little bitty dude, he was smaller than me and he would tell me all the time about my attitude. Check your attitude, brown, check your attitude. Then one day we were I day, we were, I think we were cleaning weapons and he just came over there to one of me and my other battle buddy she was from New York, had same attitude as me and everything and, um, he basically took his hat off. So it's more or less like I'm gonna talk to y'all, like y'all are people. He took his hat off and he was like y'all know, everybody has a past, but the goal the the gym is will that past break you, will it tear you down or will it make you stronger? He was like remember that, never let that go. If you don't let that go, you will retire from this right here. There is nothing that can happen in this or your outside world that can mess you up to the point where you can't get over it.

Speaker 2:

And I'm like I've held on to that and all the stuff that happened to me in the military today and, you know, kept holding on to that because just being uh, I had so many strikes going up against me being in the military anyway as a black female. Two strikes, and then, if you know me, you know I don't play. Oh yes, ma'am, I am not like. I am not backing down If I know that what I am trying to say is the correct way is right, it's what should be done. You're going to listen and we're going to do it how I said do it because this is the right way to do it. I don't care who you are, I don't care. If you're 7,000 pounds and you're standing over me, I will get however many ladders I need to get up on, so we can be right here.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, right. You know what Is that against me? Yeah, as as best, I think, as uh, women in the military period when we get in there, because we are a woman, like we have to be, like you're gonna listen to me, damn it, you're gonna listen because I know his name is.

Speaker 2:

It was crazy and it followed me from a private all the way up until I retired. I was known as the pit bull. Even when I became a drill sergeant is oh, go to pit bull, and I hated it. I used to think in my head like why are they referring to me like I'm a dog? Let me cuss them out, call me no dog or whatever, but when you think about it like think about a pit bull you can be the size of a semi truck. That pit bull is not backing down to you If you have pissed that pit bull off or you come in at pit bulls territory they.

Speaker 1:

You seen all of their teeth and everything else. So I mean, I understand, I understand. So let me ask you was it any? If you could think about, think about something that aided you or assisted you in your breakthrough? What role did someone or anything play in helping you through your breakthrough?

Speaker 1:

We all still go through trials and tribulations and it's like stepping stones. As I always tell, as I always tell people, life is like building blocks. When you have one trial and tribulation, you get through that and then you go on through the next thing. But you always try to make sure that you don't repeat any of your mistakes in the past, sure that you don't repeat any of your mistakes in the past. And I know, for me, a lot of my breakthroughs would be either from close family, close relative or military, or or my therapy, which I I am. So b3u is about, you know, survivors, survivors going through, uh, emotional and physical trauma like how are we surviving? What, what, what would you say is, or what would you say? Or who would you say is the person that reminds you or keeps putting that fuel in Ashley, to say, okay, I got to do another day, cause, like I tell people, I wake up every morning and it's not easy being brave. I have to talk to myself on a daily. What do you do?

Speaker 2:

Um, so, to me, first first is God.

Speaker 2:

This is one thing I've always I've had always come in and out of my life and do good and bad or whatever, but when I sit and just think about everything, even though I straight away, god has always been there. If it's ever been a thing where I'm like God, how am I going to like literally what you say is oh my God, how am I going to do this? Right, he always literally and not to preach, but he's always been on time, no matter what. Hasn't been when I wanted it to happen, but has been when it needed to happen, when it was Right.

Speaker 1:

For my viewers, for our viewers, for my viewers, for our viewers. Let me ask you this did you ever feel like you was alone going through your trials and tribulations.

Speaker 2:

Did you ever be like? Oh, I know, in times where I literally and like you can ask um, you can ask my kids, because I and I tell them and I catch them doing it sometimes is, sometimes you gotta talk to god, like he's sitting there right with you, like you know, sometimes you gotta be like god, listen, like he's sitting there right with you, like you know, like God, listen now, hold up, now, what, what?

Speaker 2:

what just happened right here? You got to explain this to me. Like you have to act, like you're literally he's with you and I catch them doing that and it's been sometimes where I'll be sitting down. I'm like now, hold up, god, this was going to happen to me. Like what in the world? I like, okay, are you, are we playing a prank or something right now? Because you know I don't like pranks, so I I feel like that. You know, I have to just talk to him sometimes.

Speaker 2:

But it's not just my breakthrough is not just keeping God first, it's literally like small things, like my children. I wake up and you know how Josiah is. Josiah is petty as I don't know what, but he is the sweetest person in the world and he just like I don't even have to tell him if something's wrong, like it was days when I'm just down and depressed and don't want to do anything and I'll get up because I'm like I got to breakfast, I'll get up. He in the kitchen, he got music blasting, he whipping up some pancakes, he doing that and he cleaning up. He'd already woke his sister up, made her brush her teeth and like he just keeps the the flow moving.

Speaker 2:

And then it's my daughter. I don't, I don't, she's, we, just we just look. She's a sour patch kid, I can just say that, but she just it's like because you know how we put on that face so nobody knows anything is wrong. Yes, ma'am, all too familiar Looking at you. But my daughter sometimes I could be sitting here like just crying in the inside, just want to break completely down. She'll come here, she'll look at me for a second, like she does this little squinty look and she'll give me a hug and she'll lean back, analyzing, lean back and she's like I love you and walk off like I don't want to bother with you, I'm just letting y'all love you. Okay, that's like you know all right keeps me going.

Speaker 2:

And then I have, like I have you, I got keisha, I got quarter, I got oh, I got people that I can just like. Y'all don't even have to know something's wrong with me if I call, literally, y'all gonna say something to make me laugh, y'all gonna say something make me forget, whatever the situation is, without me even have to tell y'all that something is wrong with me. It's just like I said. Y'all are like my healing and strength compasses. Y'all always steer me back to go back over this positive side, go back over to the funny. You go back over here. Don't go over to this side, that'll cut somebody. Go back over. You know what I'm saying All right, all right.

Speaker 1:

So it's awesome that you mentioned your significant other. It's awesome that you mentioned your significant other because I want to talk about how you know finding a purpose through your pain. How did your trauma shape your sense of purpose or how did it help you find it and I know you just mentioned all these awesome people, or you know so how finding your purpose through your pain is is, would you say, your significant other or what's? What's the purpose?

Speaker 2:

my significant other. We just started off as just really, really cool and I don't know you know how you just find somebody that just gets you, that just understands and things don't need. You know how you just find somebody that just gets you, that just understands, and things don't need to be said, they're already just yeah accepts you for who you are.

Speaker 1:

Does he accept you for who you are, although you?

Speaker 2:

have no matter what. It is like no matter. And he, he came into my life when I was at a point like ugh, I hate me and like I just want to slip cut him real quick. So you don't even know it's me cutting him, but I mean it literally. It took, to be honest, my sister telling her that I think I like him. I'm not sure. She was like well, you either going to be a punk or you just don't keep staring at him. I'm like, oh, and everybody. She was like well, you're either going to be a punk or you're just going to keep staring at him.

Speaker 1:

I'm like oh and everybody knows, don't call me out, because I will do it, don't move.

Speaker 2:

Anybody knows, wow, lord.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's a whole other story, because I will do it, you will. I'm on the limb. It's crazy because we both came into each other's lives when we were both literally just down at our lowest, with no expectation from either. No well, this got to happen. No, this is now. We both had, like, our guards up, but we just get each other and before we knew it, our guards were down. We care about nothing else and we just. We don't have to worry about anything Like. If he tell me he goes to a party with 200 people and he's the only male, we don't have to worry about anything like. If he tell me he going to a party with 200 people and he's the only male, I don't care, but anybody else, I'll talk to him. Turn your location on when nobody got time for that. I don't trust you right, right.

Speaker 1:

So, besides what, your, your awesome, significant or other big shout out to Carter I love him to death. Look, this guy has won his fitness journey. I couldn't keep up. Look, I was working out with him and everything fell apart. I guess my body was like you're too old for you to sit down and go to the geriatric. Don't be doing my baby like this. No, I mean, he was good, he was getting serious about his craft and I can appreciate that. So he's uh, uh, one of the purposes, uh, but finding your purpose through your pain. So I know you have the am a, m b, you have your, your beautiful children, you have your beautiful significant other, your boyfriend or whatever, what. What was that turning point in your life that you, you said okay, what? How did you find your purpose? How did Ashley come in to say, okay, matter of fact, let me ask it like this when did you find your purpose? When did you find that purpose? When did you say that's it, right there?

Speaker 2:

so it was honestly, uh, josiah, he, um, after dealing with that demon, he came in there. He came in the room um, I was changing Skylar, getting her ready or whatever, and he was young, I don't even think he was 11 yet and um came and took her from me. He was like I got her. He used to always take her in his room or whatever, just to give me some me time, or whatever. He came in there and he pat me on the back. He was like you did the right thing, ma he's like you got this. And I was like you know what I do this? Right, I'm gonna let that demon take me to a point of where I can't be here for my kids physically, but I'm not here for my kids, right, I can't bring them down because of that. You know what?

Speaker 2:

I'm saying and after that I'm.

Speaker 1:

What are some things that you did? Okay. So, josiah, is that the point where you started to branch out, to say like I want more, I got to do more.

Speaker 2:

I actually started believing in myself more, because that situation was not just physically abusive, it was mentally, it was verbally, it was all of that. So I was at a point where I wasn't really believing in myself. I didn't think I could do this. I didn't think I could do that, knowing I could, because if you think about the clientele I had at the time that I just let go of because you got, we're going to say Satan over here telling you you ain't good enough, you can't do this, this and that.

Speaker 2:

And I literally, literally. This is like crazy, but I literally went from like 100 and I think I was 169 pounds to 220. Wow, just you know what I'm saying, like literally. So after Sia's little you know basically telling me Ma get off your ass.

Speaker 1:

What is wrong with you, right?

Speaker 2:

What is wrong with you? I start, we start walking. I would take the kids and we would get in, put her Skylar in the stroller, sia, we do walks, or whatever. And then when Skylar's at daycare, me and Sia would go run because saya is a runner, oh my god, we would go run. Just do stuff like that once I started, you know, getting back in shape or whatever.

Speaker 2:

And and that's when you started walking into it, like opening little doors to find I was walking through like opportunities, and this is that, and that brought me to one of the biggest opportunities I had, was it? It walked me right into working with Jagged Edge and I'm like, you know, like right, okay, well, is that is that the one I called the different?

Speaker 1:

or was that another group? Please, you know what do I call them? Look, Jagged Edge, I want to take the time and apologize to you right now. Look, I apologize for calling you next. It was a little joke. I y'all know no joke when you hear joke. My apologies, jagged edge. That was still my boy.

Speaker 2:

Oh okay, go ahead and it ran me into the opportunity of working with kyle from jaggedars and I just he was another really positive part in my life because he was going through something but he never let it leak into us like he had bad stuff going on, but he always says something positive to me, like, uh, what you acting like? You can't do that, for you already know you can do that. What are you waiting on?

Speaker 2:

like literally, like he was the brother, his, the brother, talk he didn't nothing with me, like nothing, like literally, uh, because he called me momo, uh momo, get off your ass.

Speaker 1:

What you waiting on? Why haven't you done this already?

Speaker 2:

you know, and then it just kept going on and on and on until now, working with, like uh, former I literally work for. Well, he says we're partners, but I literally work for now, a super bowl champ, brian hall, from the um baltimore ravens I. I work with him, hand in hand in his company, and it just keeps opening up more and more doors to where it's like I can't do this. And carter pours it to me all the time. He is literally the reason why, like I was telling you the other day, I registered my business and got my llc and my yeah, he told me he's like he, carter, don't hold nothing either. Sugarcoat, nothing. Part of it's like so you got a business, you've been running the business, you've been doing this. What you waiting on to register it? I'm like okay exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1:

So, okay, what is something that you could tell the viewers that you wish more people understood about trauma, like, how would you tell somebody to protect their peace and energy? Now, now that you're in your walk, listeners, our viewers, to empower them through their, their walk, their trauma, their trials and tribulations um, I think what people need to realize is relatability.

Speaker 2:

Is that a word? That's a word? Right? Relatability is it's not. Like it's the word, so we're gonna. If it's not, hey guys, I just made that up.

Speaker 2:

Relatability is important. Like people are think that nobody's gonna understand my story, so I got to keep on this mask, I got to keep on this face that I'm okay, there's nothing wrong with me. But what people fail to realize is you have people out there that look at you like you're a hero. They look at you like they're so strong, they're this, this and that, once they realize that you, you are human too. You go through the same stuff they're going through. You are doing this, this and that, but you're still in some way, in their eyes, making it like it will open up so many doors.

Speaker 2:

Like I am very personable, like I keep everything in, I don't talk about anything. I think that's one downfall of the military. It has basically numbed us. A lot of us Like when it comes to death, like I don't really deal with death, I just kind of take it and put it in the back of my head. I'm like OK, this person passed, I'm sad, and they just leave it at that, because in my head I can't show that weakness because I ought to be there for them, so I don't have time to break down. If I break down, then how am I helping them heal? You know what I'm saying. So I think people need to back to what you asked me. But I think people need to realize that it's OK to talk about your trauma you it's. It makes it worse on you the more you hold it.

Speaker 1:

That is true, that is so true, a boiling pot, right?

Speaker 2:

You put the top on it, then it explodes. Yes, yes, ma'am, explode. And when you get to that point where you about to explode, then that's when you make it worse, because you tearing up bridges and relationships and you know. So be okay to address your trauma.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, ma'am, I totally agree with that. I spent many, many years, many years masking, hiding through my trauma and, as you well know, 2023 or 20 into 24 was my breaking point and I knew I had to get help. Remember that call in the airport we ain't going to talk about that.

Speaker 1:

Let me tell you look, the Atlanta airport, that is one place you do not. If you are facing any trauma, do not fly through Atlanta airport, because you will definitely want to take heads off. Those are some of the most rude people in Atlanta airport. Look, I'm going to talk about them now. Atlanta workers are rude. They don't like my grandson say, they don't care, they don't care. But yeah, so when you're masking and hiding behind Trump, you are so right that that becomes a boiling pot.

Speaker 2:

And then you, just before you know it, what you fail to realize is you're adding more trauma on top of the trauma, and then, when it's self-inflicted, you're doing that.

Speaker 1:

You can't blame nobody else you're doing right, I'm telling you, I used to wonder why they would try to send you know how, how they try to send us to those PTSD clinics and face your trauma. I'm like what am I going to face it? For I don't want to face it. It's trauma. I want to forget about it. Like, teach me how to forget about it. But I finally came into realization that you must face your trauma, whatever that is, head on, so you can see in front of you instead of always trying to cover up what was behind you. So I totally, totally, totally agree with that. So what's next for you, ms Ashley? What's next for you and how are you using your voice today to help others?

Speaker 2:

What's next for me is, honestly, something that I have been praying for. I'm so sorry. My dog hears them mowing the lawn and he about to start barking. Um, what's next for me is something that I've been praying for. Not only is it patience, but to learn to forgive, because there are people that I I just I haven't forgave it like I know I need to, but I'm human that's right and I don't know one step at a time, one step at a time, to move off the step that I'm on.

Speaker 1:

That's right what somebody says how do? You? Said to me one time, how do you eat an elephant? I thought about it, I thought about it. I was like, well, I would have to do that one bite at a time and it didn't even click to me that oh oh, oh, okay, okay, yeah, that's how you live life. So, ashley, one, one bite at a time. We're not human. Another thing that we have to learn is that we are not the most high, we are not God, so we are imperfect.

Speaker 1:

You know we were made his image, yes, but there are things that take some time to heal or some people to forgive. So I totally understand that and I thank you for coming on with me today and sharing your experience. Come on B3U. And as for my audience, I hope and I pray that you enjoyed this podcast with Miss Ashley. She is amazing. Is it anything, Ashley, that you would want to put out to our listeners or our viewers for them to follow you somewhere? Do you have a website?

Speaker 2:

I'm still working on all of it.

Speaker 1:

You're still working on it. Okay Well, look. Okay Well, look. Miss Ashley, thank you so much. My sister, my friend, my heart and my soul, I thank you for coming on B3U with me today, just giving our viewers a little bit of insight on your pain and how you turned your pain into power, how you burned, break and are becoming unstoppable and successful. You, I wish nothing but the best. My sister, my sister and I will be watching you, as I know you will be watching me, so we'll be watching each other. So, B3U, thank you, my viewers, for coming out and listening to the show today, and we will see you again next week with another awesome, awesome event or show. So we'll see you then.