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“Welcome to B3U, the podcast where we will always speak our truths by Burning pains of the past, Breaking the broken mindset and Becoming Unstoppable, reclaim power all while walking into our purpose . I’m Bree and if you’re here today, you or someone you love has likely faced the dark reality of abuse. First, let me say this—you are not broken. You are not defined by what happened to you. You are here, and that means there is hope, strength, and a future waiting for you.
Here we will be diving into the journey of healing. We’ll talk about the aftermath of abuse, how to reclaim your voice, and the steps toward true freedom and find your purpose . Whether you’re just beginning to process your experience or you’re deep into your healing journey, this podcast is for you!
Burn-Break&Become Unstoppable B3u
Justice for Jaden w/ Naoki Hisey
This episode, Naoki tells the story of her son, a Black autistic teen whose survival hinged on jujitsu and a stranger’s kindness after years of ignored harassment escalated to an attempted murder. Through her voice, we trace systemic failures—from misreading autism as defiance, to racial stereotyping, to privacy violations by educators—that compounded his vulnerability. The conversation isn’t about shock; it’s a blueprint for prevention, outlining real fixes like mandatory mental health evaluations, forensic assessments, enforceable safety plans, in-school clinicians, and leadership stability. At its core, it’s a call for schools and communities to replace neglect with accountability so kids like Jaden can live as students, not survivors.
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Hey everybody, welcome to B3U. And I have with me the Miss Beautiful Naomi. Naomi, how are you?
SPEAKER_03:Hi, it's Naoki. Nayoki. It's okay, but Naomi is the is the equivalent. It's the girl's name. I actually have a Japanese man's name. Yes, I'm a quarter Japanese. So Watashiwa Ano Nao Kidday said those are yours, too. That means hi. My name is Naoki. It's nice to meet you. So um that'll be part of our more in-depth and and deep conversation because all this ethnic mix kind of there's some stuff out there that we're missing with all of this stuff for us as people.
SPEAKER_01:So yes, I amazing. So before we begin, um, how are you holding up um as a mother right now? We all know your your situation. Well, my viewers don't know, but tell us how you're holding up and tell us a little bit about your story and your son, Jaden.
SPEAKER_03:So we'll have to go back to the sixth grade. Um, we moved here from the from uh Varina. I used to live over that way, and um he had a really supportive environment. My son is 16 years old now, but he has autism. And being a young man of color with autism, you know, he's got some additional challenges that might not necessarily be obvious because he's high functioning, so his emotional issues are the ones that are more uh prevalent. So because he's not uh speech or language delayed, there's a preconceived notion with some people in the current school system in Petersburg that, and I quote, ain't nothing wrong with him that a good ass woman couldn't fix. And so I I I I I take explicit offense to that because I'm also autistic, so are his brother and his sister. So having to fight the school system when I left Varina coming here and let him know that Jaden is autistic. Now, Jayden is a little bit gifted because Jaden also plays acoustic guitar. He was being taught by his brother, who is also self-taught and in a band. So, you know, it it was the juxtaposition of seeing what my child can do as opposed to their perception of my child when he has like executive shutdown. If there's too much stimulus, Jaden will shut down. He will go to sleep like a baby. So I'm constantly having to fight these people who are telling me ain't nothing wrong with him, because the prevalent attitude amongst my own constituency here in Petersburg is that if you're black, they can talk to you and your children however they want to, because part of our demographic is, oh girl, you know it takes a family. Um, but you're not my family. And when you don't have the same values I have as far as my family, when you have a whole nother background I'm not familiar with, then I don't have a level of comfort in an assumption that just because we're black, we believe the same things. Like my my son, uh initially, my daughter has some friends who are trans. And so we're we're we we're P flag, we support things, even though we may not agree with whatever lifestyle, each and every life is to be respected. So he went to stand up for a young lady who identifies as trans. And at first, before finding out that it was the child of color, standing up for this other person, because he he knows that his sister has a friend who's trans, who is an adult, who he understands. So he feels a sense of obligation to protect other people. Meanwhile, he's been victimized. So immediately the school that's the first call of the gear is that Jaden's problematic, but I know better. So I get there and there's just these constant steps of they want it's difficult for me because here in a predominant in an environment where he's predominantly amongst his other people of color, I would have expected a better attitude, but it's not. We have them using language like when the children are in trouble, you go in for a meeting or you're fighting for an IEP meeting where they're saying, well, what makes you think he's autistic? Well, first of all, we won't even get into my qualifications as to why, as a licensed clinical social worker in the past, I would I could administer the same Wexler that I'm needing you to give to my child. But I don't feel that it should always have to be a battle because everyone in the administrative staff wants to take the low road. They don't want to work, they want to not pay attention to parents being in the hallways while the classes are changing and overhearing these negative attitudes. And, you know, they're talking to the children probably the same way they talk to their children, but I don't talk to my child like that.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And so going back to the sixth grade, this young man who assaulted my son, it started in sixth grade. They were in the bathroom and he airdropped a picture of my son's penis to other students, having told them he was gonna do it. Oh, I'll get a picture of his, you know what, using all the language that young kids like to experiment with when they're not at home. And so he did. He airdropped a picture of my son's penis. So initially we had um, I think it was the middle school principal from Short Pump. So they took a woman, a white woman from the middle of a affluent environment and stuck her in Petersburg for a few weeks. I'm sure she has PTSD because I was not the parent to mess with. When I showed up, I said, I'm gonna need you to show me the phone when my son sent a picture of his penis to anyone. My son does not even change clothes, hated the idea of dressing out for PE, is autistic. Body shaming is an issue with us. He scars to where, you know, we have dogs and we have grass and we have land. He goes out and plays with the dogs. Anything that bites him puts scars on his legs. So he's very sensitive about his whole body appearance. So when I challenged her, then all of a sudden, then oh, oh, we're sorry.
SPEAKER_01:So again, Jada So now let me ask you, Naoki. So you're you're you said you have mixed races, so you're indigenous, yes, Japanese, yes, Creole.
SPEAKER_03:I'm from Louisiana, so I'm French, black, Irish, Italian, Algerian, yeah, and Japanese.
SPEAKER_01:So when they talk and your son as well, right? So exactly. And so this kid, this young boy, his race is uh he's white.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, and you know, understanding that I I I am empathetic to the fact that this is a young white student in a predominantly black school. But I would have been more empathetic had he been the one not doing the victimizing. Now, the young man, unfortunately, his mother has passed from drugs, his father's in jail for drugs, and his grandfather is the custodial parent, and that he's too busy being a friend. So these things they kept going. And so from sixth grade with the picture of the penis, then it was in the eighth grade, another bathroom altercation where he tells Jaden that uh he's gonna come to the house and kill Jaden and rape me. So Jaden said, if you come to my house, I'll shoot you. So then I'm back at school again because my son has expressed the fact that he's going to protect his mother. So Jaden gets suspended. This kid gets suspended. Then we move up into eighth grade. So the final coup de grace is a picture of Jaden having a bowel movement that he airdrops again. And so I pulled Jaden out of school. I took him to District 19 for counseling because when I sent, I asked if he could go speak to the school counselor at the high school, or excuse me, at the at oh yeah, this was at the middle school. Excuse me, I'm getting ahead of myself. At the middle school, um, the counselor basically was not interested. Oh, well, he needs some psychological assistance. So he had already been on the exceptional family member program having autism. None of the resources that should have been available for him as an autistic student were available other than having extra time to take his tests, which none of the teachers wanted to implement because it takes time away from the rest of the classroom. So he's been beat up by teachers and beat up by students for being slow, retarded. Uh, I don't have time for you to have you test with every you're gonna test with everybody else. I don't have time for you to be slow.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and this is in the city of Petersburg.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, ma'am. So when I took Petersburg at Vernon Johns Middle School to the school board, all of a sudden everybody becomes complicit and backing down because during COVID, while he was at home with me, he was an honor roll student. While he's there being abused by other students and bullied, he can't get his work done because he's autistic. And then they schedule IEP meetings when they want to. And then I have to deal with an alcoholic case manager who shows up reeking, eyes, bloodshot, jaundice, and then is constantly uh attacking me in the IP. Are you is that a personal attack? And then you can see on the video when you walk out of school, the man comes up to hug me afterwards. So being gaslit while my son's being abused, I pulled him out of school. Then the beginning of ninth grade year, I let them know he's not coming to school until I have a safety plan at the high school. Well, at the time, uh, Ms. The student in question's name is he's already been charged. So uh I don't know what if there's any legalities about releasing the name of a minor, but a minor that has attempted to murder another child, people need to know who he is and keep their children safe from him in Petersburg because he is still at school.
SPEAKER_00:Oh wow.
SPEAKER_03:After this incident, I guess they expelled him for whatever reason. So he wasn't there at the beginning of ninth grade. He came back to school with the intent to seek revenge on Jaden because me being a big mouth, his mom's big ass mouth is part of the reason I got kicked out of school. So I'm gonna fuck him up. So students knew about this. Students knew about this working up to it. So Paul gets back this year in tenth grade, and Jaden has already chosen his auto shop box.
SPEAKER_01:So we're talking four years.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, ma'am, from sixth grade to 10th grade because he was gone for the majority of ninth grade, but Jaden was already picked on by the other members of that little group. So the ringleader comes back this year, and I find out that they're in the same fourth box class and I write a note. I write a note and call the school and let them know I want Jaden out of that class. I don't like that child. That child is not properly supervised, and all he did was get a break from school. He's still a bully. So Jaden and Paul get into an altercation in the classroom a few weeks back, leading to the fourth block teacher taking it upon himself to go and get my personal address, violate PII and the Privacy Act of 1974, get my address and then tell instead of telling other administrators what had occurred, the man shows up to my house to talk to my minor child without me present, sends me a message via text to message or text now, text wow, some application. If you are a teacher and you do not have a means by which your parents can contact you during the day, then you don't go anywhere. You damn sure don't show up at my house. So then when I called the police department to let them know and make an incident report and call the school, I got no reaction. So this is the same fourth block in which he and Paul have had this altercation, in which Paul decides well, whatever prompted happened prompted this teacher to come to my house to talk to my son, not me. Put my minor child out on my porch to talk to him. So I called the police, I called the school. No one got back to me until this incident that occurred on the 2nd of October. So Paul has had this time to build up his revenge against Jaden. So for two weeks prior to that, pretended he and Jaden were friends, comes by him and grandpa are picking Jaden up, driving him to school together. Well, on the 2nd of October, he took grandpa's other vehicle, a white Mustang, having only a learner's permit after he had told other children, I'm gonna beat his black ass to death and let him drown. That nigga's not gonna reach 16. Drove him out to a waterfall, knew to cross over from Petersburg to Chesterfield County to commit said crime. Drives my son to the waterfall, and after consuming marijuana like idiots, because Jaden thought all his friends were gonna meet him for his birthday. So my kid wasn't perfect, but my kid did not deserve to almost be murdered. So this child lured him out with the marijuana, lets him know, okay, we gotta smoke together. Oh, Jaden's asking where the other kids are gonna be. Well, first we gotta smoke for this pack. They smoke marijuana, and apparently the young man gets too high to fully execute his plan to kill my son because my son can fight back.
SPEAKER_01:Let me so let me be let me get a little clarity. Jay, they Jaden went along with him, even though he was a foe. Yeah, he was a friend.
SPEAKER_03:And believe in things, yes, believe in. Oh, well, we've matured and we buried this hatchet. So my son is trying to step forward and be a uh an upstanding young man. But meanwhile, young.
SPEAKER_01:So he wanted to be friends, exactly.
SPEAKER_03:He wanted to do the right thing and move forward and have that little shop class together. So he's taking the opportunity to talk to Paul about cars, which are a favorite thing of his. So his autism button is pressed and it's a in a good way. So he's sharing all the information about these cars and all this good stuff with Paul. Meanwhile, Paul is letting other kids know. Hey, send me some gas money because I'm gonna beat the I'm gonna beat his ass.
SPEAKER_01:Wow.
SPEAKER_03:So he takes him out to a park, takes him out to a park to a waterfall, commences to beating Jaden Let him know. I'm gonna beat your black ass and let you drown. Proceeds while he's beating him to let him know that the house we live in, because I don't live in crater square apartments, I don't live in a trailer park. Not that those are bad places to live, but that's not where we live. So he's angry that my black son has more than him, has a parent. But rather than wanting to be my son's friend and see that there's enough mom in me to go around. And it doesn't matter what color you are, you're welcome in my home if you're a friend of my child. And that has been the way all my children are raised. He has an issue with what life has dealt them because of the choices that his family made. But he's taken them out on my child so much so since sixth grade, and then tells my son, Well, you were easily fuckwithable. That was new language for me because my son wore cowboy boots and a cowboy hat because as indigenous Afro-Indigenous people from Texas and Louisiana, that might be what we wear.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, we do on my uncle's farm, um, we do get on horses and we do break other horses, and we got a whole hog farm. I'm not wearing sneakers on a hog farm. I'm sorry. The poop boots is the boots that's getting worn on the farm. So my children have been exposed to country life as Afro-Indigenous people. So urban, urban ignorance is not something he's akin to, but he's a he's well versed with all kinds of music. So then it was the the the week before he wore a Metallica t-shirt. And so the young man assumed that because my son was black, my son could not listen to Metallica. He's like, that's my mom's favorite band.
SPEAKER_01:Look, my Metallica, don't get me started with James. Come on, honey.
SPEAKER_02:That's our that is our deployment grind music. You know, the hero of the day. We know we're coming up. One was my favorite album.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yes, come on. And they don't understand that at our age in the 80s and 90s, we we were getting along. We was doing a lot of good things. MC Hammer, everybody loved them. When we were in school, everybody was trying to get along. We were holding hands, hands across America. We was all giving everybody a coke and a smile. This degenerate backtracking happened somewhere in the mid-90s.
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_01:So let's let's get to the the whole part while we're we are currently fundraising with for Jaden because he took your son out to the park. Yes, had him take had him, you know, uh smoke a uh a substance, we marijuana, and it happened.
SPEAKER_03:Then he proceeded to start to beat him to death, and his intent was to beat him to death and push him in the waterfall and let him drown. And had my kid, had I not put my son in jujitsu. This young man is five foot seven, he's as tall as me and weighs 270 pounds. My baby is five foot four, five five, a hundred and nine, if so if you could imagine the equivalent of a whole nother parent meeting my child, and he got away and he found a young man running on the the runner's path. And had it not been for those good Samaritans, we might on October 3rd on my baby's 16th birthday, he might have been missing.
SPEAKER_00:Wow.
SPEAKER_03:And my problems lie not only with the school system that let it happen, but the inability between two jurisdictions to serve a protective order. As of yet to date, the no contact order that the magistrate in Petersburg felt strongly enough to issue for a minor has not been delivered, and that child has been at school and other students have seen him. And so I need assistance in getting in retaining a lawyer that will fight the school system with me and the police because my child is not protected. This has been going on, and no matter what, the police didn't do anything about the teacher showing up, neither did the school system. So, as a survivor of rape, I don't know what this man's background is. We've already had teachers removed from the school system for abusing special needs students. So, if it's good enough for this other young man to say he's gonna show up at my house and rape me and be expelled, then why isn't it good enough for that teacher to be suspended for coming to my house in violation of the Privacy Act of 1974? He was not entitled to pull my address out of those records and come to my house and confront my child. Then he failed to safeguard my child by not reporting that incident. And then approximately a week and a half later, that same child who has that incident in that class tries to kill my son.
SPEAKER_00:And and so neither nobody has helped you. No one.
SPEAKER_03:The Chesterfield Police Department pressed charges against him, but that's it. I'm still I'm in limbo keeping my kid home every day. I got a barrage of phone calls for people who want to be reactive now, and only because my child's not at school. Not because they called the police department to get this child served, only because, well, Jaden missed fourth through fifth through sixth, whatever periods. Jaden's not at school. And the only person who's advocating for me is the attendance lady at his school, Miss Walker.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. So I was gonna ask, you know, do you feel like the school district is showing neglect for his indifference, his race?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, let me tell you, at Vernon John's in the same time period in question from sixth through eighth grade, they took all the special needs students and the behaviorally challenged students and they locked them in the gym and called it Leadership Academy. And those children had no grades for two nine-week periods. And when I reported that to the school board, my son reported it again. It was all hush-hush. It didn't get out of anybody. Not even there were so many parents who weren't even aware that the reason their children didn't have grades in school was they had been locked up in the gym for fight clubs. They were letting children fight. And then when we found out, let the resource officer know what was going on, what did they do? They took the one officer who was the perfect advocate for the children. Officer Brown was wonderful. She advocated for those children because she grew up the same way. So she knew what they needed. And when she stood up for the children and stood against those facilitators that were in there mistreating those children, they took her off as a school resource officer. And guess who the high school resource officer is? The same ignorant, uneducated officer Cuba who did the investigation in the eighth grade, talking about, well, when we take this to adjudication, I said, you will not use language like that about minor children, sir. You will not be setting these young princes and princesses up for a life of habitual crime. You are not gonna use words like adjudicate because you are not a judge. And using words like adjudicate with me is up the wrong alley. I'm a mandated reporter. I will call CPS on every one of you facilitators in this room who can't facilitate. You can barely speak English and you want to ask me a question. No, sir. See, when I'm at home, my vernacular with my family, yeah, I ask a lot of questions at home. But when I put on my professional face, I will come and ask you for further details. See, I know the difference and how to present myself. But this is also the officer that told me my son was too busy trying to live a YN. And for all of our audience members who don't know what that means, a young nigger lifestyle.
SPEAKER_01:Wow.
SPEAKER_03:While he's in high water pants, presenting the worst of the worst to me, clothes too tight because he's so concerned about what he smells like that he can't do his job as an officer of the peace because he's not keeping the peace. Then he wanted to let me know how my son had threatened to shoot somebody. I said, My son can be suspended for threatening, but my son does have gun awareness. All of my children, I was a marksmanship instructor. My children have uh gun awareness training. They know not to mess with guns and guns are not to play with, and all my guns are locked. But they do know that in this in the case of an emergency, if I unlock my gun case and you need to get to it, you know how to fire on an aggressor. Period. I am a responsible parent. But oh, he's oh, well, how do we know that Jaden doesn't have access to the weapon? I said, because he's sitting in front of you and he came and told. Because if he had access to a gun, he would have shot this kid because the kid keeps bullying him. Trust with the level of suicidality I've had to deal with in my child, that if he had access to my gun, he would have brought it to school and killed that boy. Because none of you, none of you, none of them have even advocated for that boy to have mental health. I asked why they didn't have him evaluated by a forensic psychologist when he was suspended for this constant sexualization. Because in most places, uh, airdropping a picture of somebody else's penis would have gotten a child that age as a minor restricted from all electronic devices and monitored. That didn't happen. Because the school fails to follow up every time because they're overtaxed. They can't stand me because I show up and I'm not one of these disadvantaged, unengaged stripper moms from who look, they think I live right there in the square apartments, that uh I must be some kind of third-rate citizen. So I'm not even entitled as a woman of color to advocate for my child because of the presumption that where his bus stop is is where he lives.
SPEAKER_01:And you know, that that is so true what you say now. I live in another county where they do not, they do not tell. I mean, even a look a child, I have been fighting for my grandson going to the school system up here in uh in Hanover County. And it's like, where is your your policies are so jacked up that you'd rather send a child to Georgetown or to one of these schools for defending themselves?
SPEAKER_03:Exactly. That's insane. My kid has been beat up. Look, the bus driver in sixth grade told him your black ass doesn't live over there in those houses, dropped him off at Crater Square. Or excuse me, when he wouldn't get off at the house closer, he's like, No, I live back there. So rather than come through to drop my child off, they drove my child, my child back to Vernon Johns and left him there. I have a plethora of police reports from the from when he started sixth grade to now.
SPEAKER_01:And this is amazing. Not one person, not one person has reached out to try to help you. Let me ask you um the accountability that you're seeking from uh both the school district and the what accountability? What are you what do you want from them at this point?
SPEAKER_03:Mental health, safeguards for children. I'm tired of children getting suspended with no mandatory mental health care. I'm tired of the BS. You can talk to their parents all day. Johnny is not going to time out. His mother is dead, his father is in jail. His grandfather is not gonna put in the time that it takes to get to the organic problems that this child has as to why he's picking on my child. Mandatory mental health care. That is the only way.
SPEAKER_01:I agree with that because my grandson was, you know, he's a small kid and he was protecting himself from a well-known bully. Exactly. Threw his little self all up, but he would not back down. And we we teach our children like, hey, don't worry about it until someone hits you, till somebody does something to you. But when you have a bully that you've known for the longest. Yes, and it's a stamp. If you want to keep him on the football team trouble, because he gets to commit domestic violence.
SPEAKER_03:So when he beats his wife, who's at fault? When he grows up to beat his wife and his neighbors, who's at fault? Those administrators who knew that he had these behaviors towards other children, and oh, but he's got a troubled life. Well, get him to someone who can talk about his troubled life. The football game is not healing him. And see, when we have people whose whose divested interests come from, oh, if we get him in active in after school sports, do that after counseling.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Let that be a modality of therapy after we get to the root cause of why he's abusing other children. See, we got it backwards. We want to put him on the softball team, put him on the football team because once he's involved in extracurriculars, he'll stop being a bully. No, because if he's getting bullied at home, maybe a forensic psychologist needs to know hey, this family might look okay, but there's trouble in the home because let's face it too, there are a lot of well-to-do children that have more strife in their home than some of our children that come from poor families. And unfortunately, it's always having to do with us people of color. My child right now has a single parent more attentive than anyone of these two parent households who are constantly fighting, getting arrested because they're beating each other in front. And I'm trying to understand how if you know that mom's name looks like it's methany, and you know she's coming in scratching her scabs from heroin, her teeth are all smoked out from meth, but she at the school every day, wouldn't you call CPS because you see this mother who is obviously struggling? Because if nothing else, using CPS for what it was meant for, it was meant to be intercessory. It was meant to be intercessory. Do you need additional benefits? But again, let's talk about our CPS workers who villainize these parents who actually need help. If someone has substance abuse problems, look, I used to work at CSAC. I am a substance, I am a drug demand reduction coordinator by trade, as uh one of the hats I wore in the Marine Corps. If we villainize people instead of get them help and provide the subsequent Al Anon, Narconon, the support to their families as a whole, if we don't start treating addictions and these familial breakdowns as a whole, this continues. The school bully got problems at home. So I'm supposed to feel sorry for him because he killed my kid. Um, I'm sorry, but as a parent, I'm gonna struggle with that. But then when I'm able to detach myself from it and look through my clinician's eyes as a clinical social worker, which I had to stop because of stuff like this, because it is not enough for well-to-do parents to place their children in programs that perpetuate their bulliness by putting them in leadership positions. Now they're the lead bully.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. Yes. And I so agree with everything that you're saying. Again, you know, we have, you know, said thank thank God because my grandson was told, hey, meet me somewhere, but he did not experience what your son has experienced where he was almost murdered. And this young man happened to be raised, was being raised by his grandmother as my grandson. I was not raising him, but me and my daughter was partnering, raising him because he loves me. But you know, I didn't bring him, you know. We have we both, my sister, we both have served in the military. Right?
SPEAKER_03:And the difference between us as grandparents and these 70, 80-year-old grandparents were teenagers. That's insane. That would be like me telling my mother at 74 years old, I need you to raise my child. My mother has raised her children, my mother can assist with lecture and laurel. Yes, where 70-year-old people to be getting bullied by their own kids because let's face it, their kids didn't do well. Let's be honest and let's stop, let's stop putting a pretty coating of icing on the poo-poo cupcake. Because the bottom line is the parents that failed now have relied on the parents that already raised them to do a job they're ill equipped to do as geriatrics. You cannot raise a teenager that is already talking back and has an attitude and leave your key car keys and effectively think that if the if you have already allowed this child to drive and you leave in car keys and you already know this child is prone to mischief, then you are probably. Of the problem, and that in this case, his grandfather. Because I know me as a grandmother right now, if I needed to jump in and help with the six-year-old, but at 54, I'm a different grandma. I can help there. I have a 16-year-old child at 54, so I'm good. So I can assist other teenage parents because I also have grown children.
SPEAKER_01:But we're not 67. You know what? That that that is so me. I don't my children are all capable of raising their own children. Exactly. I am here to guide, lead, and mentor. Thank you.
SPEAKER_03:We graduate to the leadership role that requires us to only set the footsteps. We have already raised them in the way, and they should abide. Abide. I raised you how I was supposed to raise you. And if you've not been to jail, thank you. Good job. So you should be capable of providing the same for your progeny.
SPEAKER_01:What do they say? It takes a village to raise children. And I think if we all collectively came together to watch out for each other, this is why it sickened sickens me to hear your story. And I'm so glad that you came on this platform to expose the wrongdoing because I cannot believe, and in Petersburg now, mind you, because see you're in the city. I'm in the county. Exactly. It's totally different.
SPEAKER_03:Totally, because when I was in Henraiko County, let me tell you something: the resources, the teachers, anything that happened there, let me give a shout out to everyone at Varina High School who supported my babies through everything. When my son left school to take care of me, let me tell you, my middle son, I had cancer. I had no one to take care of me. My child went to his guidance counselor and said, Can I drop out of school? But I need assistance. I need to take my mother for treatment. Do you know that his guidance counselor assisted him with getting his GED so he could take me? So he actually graduated before his friends, but he was also instrumental in my recovery from cancer. So I know what can be done. But Petersburg City Schools is a festering hotbed of bad attitudes. They don't, there's a handful of people who do care, but the general attitude is if those people speak up, they they get ostracized.
SPEAKER_01:And this is why you have to be exactly. Let me tell you, no pressure into feelings.
SPEAKER_03:Miss Field's the principal. I know had this gotten to her before I had to call her on Friday and I'm waiting to get back because she is the principal. When she stepped in when the stuff happened with Vernon Johns, I was grateful. Then they move her to the high school because it's not good enough to leave the administrator that's cleaning up the mess in the middle school. No, we're gonna move her to the high school because the same problems that were there from sixth grade on. Oh, let's let's look at progression, sixth, seventh, eight, ninth. So you're just gonna move her with the problem, children, instead of allow her to build a framework to prevent this stuff from happening and uh bring in another force at the high school or reinforce the training there, piggyback off the middle school training, do some kind of training where you can identify hey, if this kid has a pattern of misconduct that requires a forensic evaluation before they return to school.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Three times strike, they need to see a psychologist. And that's not that's not that's not up to anybody else. If your child has a pattern of misconduct and has not been diagnosed with a disability under the DSM 5, then they will need to see a forensic psychologist to find out what the origin of their dysfunction is before they can safely return to school. This would have blocked out several school shootings because as we look back in retrospect, no school shooter has ever had a blemish-free record. They'd either been bullied or been the bully.
SPEAKER_01:That's right.
SPEAKER_03:So if we don't proactively, but then then then um uh unfortunately we're gonna have to look at, we're gonna have to get into the current climate. Current climate. Now we're taking away basic health care. What about these kids who do have what about these kids who were substance abuse born, who have medication that they now can't pick up? How much is school violence going to escalate because these kids can't get their meds? Some of these children are on adult regimes of medicine.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. You're you are speaking some facts to the case.
SPEAKER_03:And the problem with that is too, why do not why our healthcare at work or at school, our school nurses are not equipped for this. And if the school psychologist is qualified to administer a test, maybe we need a little bit higher degree of psychologists, that same psychologist that considered the VA and write me a prescription for medication, for medication management. Because maybe these kids getting switched on medication, not being reported in their weekly mood swings. Because if you change a child from Paxel to uh another drug, or if you change it from brand name, well, butrin, to the doggone generic, those are different fillers. Who's to say that they're gonna respond appropriately? So if we know that, oh, this kid has a whole bunch of problems, but we don't have that document, and the school nurse doesn't know, hey, this week Johnny changed his medication, so he might be out of pocket, he might need to leave the classroom. Because, see, they were quick when they wanted my kids on stibulants. And when I said I'm not putting my child on methamphetamine, so you can have more comfort in your classroom. Because I was already on it as an adult. Adderall is methamphetamine. And the withdrawal symptoms that children feel are the same as people withdrawing from meth. So when kids go without their ADD medication, they are withdrawing from clinical grade methamphetamine. But nobody wants to talk about that either. So we're building a society of addicted youth because we don't have the time to actually get to the bottom of the problem. So let's medicate him. Let's let's let's thwart his aggressiveness by putting him on some medication. Let's put him on well butrein, let's stack that with Adderall. Then we're gonna stack that with Abilify because he can't function. Now he can't sleep because he's on stimulants and let's create this cycle. So then Big Pharma is making a whole lot of money off poor people. A lot of money gives. That's right. A whole lot of money off Medicaid when talk therapy, ABA therapy, applied behavioral therapy amongst their peers, and a requirement for an a 504 behavior plan and a psychological evaluation. See if we stop using the IEP system and the 504 system as a punishment and use it as a preventative measure, because it is preventative. If your punishment is you have to get your kid evaluated since you're a non non-participating parent, then hold those parents accountable. See, because I know for me, I would have been 100% you could have called the court on me because I took my child everywhere he needed to go when he started to display behaviors that I found were not conducive with a happy child. But the bullies, oh well, he had to be taught to bully. Who's gonna unteach him?