Breaking Cycles, Building Legacies Part 1

The most powerful family tradition isn’t silence; it’s intention. We sit down with Pastor Camay Chanel and Philadelphia stylist and community servant Ashonda Fisher to talk about ending harmful cycles and building legacies that actually last. From prayer that becomes a family reflex to therapy that reframes old hurt, we map a path from survival to stewardship with candor and care.

We open by reframing “cycles” as patterns born from survival and “legacy” as the intentional habits that shape the next generation. Pastor Camay shares how answering a pastoral call shifted her from striving to thriving, and why faith without accountability stalls growth. Ashonda brings raw, practical wisdom from two decades behind the chair, describing how service—like offering free hair and makeup for grieving families—teaches her children empathy, responsibility, and the quiet dignity of showing up. Together we explore how knowledge gaps around mental health and money once kept families stuck, and how today’s access to resources, credit literacy, and therapy can break that inertia.

You’ll hear why transparency with kids matters—explaining choices, money, and mistakes—so they inherit reasoning, not secrecy. We dig into emotional intelligence as a family policy: naming feelings, practicing self-control, and choosing responses that protect tomorrow. The conversation widens to community accountability and the lost “village,” from barbershops and churches to small nonprofits that hold families together when systems fail. Legacy expands beyond dollars to include values, emotional health, and service—bricks that children can build upon rather than walls they must tear down.

If you’re ready to stop repeating what hurt you and start designing what helps them, this is your roadmap: pray, learn, tell the truth, get help, and keep building. Subscribe, share this with someone who needs the nudge, and leave a review to tell us the one cycle you’re ending today.

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Bridging Generations, Not Blaming

SPEAKER_02 0:26

All right. Welcome everyone. Welcome to B3U. I am your host, Bree Charles, and today we are not here to blame generations. We're here to bridge them together. Every generation has carried something, whether it worked, whether it didn't, or whether it was left unhealed. Cycles says, cycles are sometimes often born out of survival. But legacies, legacies are built with intention. Many of us veterans, students, parents, or professionals, we were taught how to survive. But rarely were we did we pass anything healthy along the way. A cycle says, This is how it's always done. But legacy, legacy says, it stops with me. Now, breaking cycles doesn't mean that we have to dishonor our past, but we can do it by honoring it from learning from before and do better from what we've learned. And breaking uh legacy doesn't always have to be about money alone. It could be about community accountability, emotional, uh, emotional health, relationship health, and most of all, emotional intelligence. So today, that is what we are here today to do. On my right, I have the wonderful Miss Pastor, Pastor, Pastor Kamei Chanel, and the wonderful, beautiful Miss Ashonda Fisher, hairdresser stylist. These ladies that I have with me today are faith, faith-based ladies. They know the word, they know the faith that God has brought them through. So today, like I said, we're not here to blame generations, we're just here to bridge the gap between them. So, with that being said, welcome, ladies. Thank y'all for joining me here on B3U. I appreciate it. You're welcome, you're welcome. Thanks for having us. You're welcome. So, Mr. May, first tell us a little bit about yourself so the audience can know who you are.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

Absolutely. So, my name is Pastor Kamei Chanel. I am a new um pastor in training, and that I um now realize that that's the journey that God has me on and had me on. But about two years ago, I received and I heard the calling very loud and clear. And so, since then, I've been very diligent, very dedicated, and committed to following God's voice, seeking um for further understanding, and I am really, really committed to the mission. And so thank you for having me. Super excited. Um, not only am I striving, obviously, in the right um direction and tapped in with the right source, right? I am an entrepreneur. I am um very eclectic when it comes to various industries, whether it's real estate, childcare, credit repair, business consultant. The guy allowed me the opportunity to have many experiences and levels of success as it relates to entrepreneurship. I'm a mother, I'm a wife, I am a child, obviously. My father is here, my husband is here, so I'm excited to be here, and this is today's gonna be a journey in itself. So thank you.

SPEAKER_02 3:59

Thank you. Mr. Shonda, please tell the audience who is very familiar with you already, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

Hi, everybody. I'm Ashonda Fisher. I'm a hairstylist based out of Philadelphia. I've been doing hair for over 20 years now. Um super blessed because everybody knows a hairstylist you're either in the game or you're not. It's very, very hard to be a part of an industry that changes different, just it changes every single day. So just to still be in this career path, I know that when I was chosen, I always did care since I was a child. This is the only way I ever made income. So I'm definitely blessed because I'm able to feed and provide for my family, my children. Um, I do different things as far as uh community work, as far as with my clients. Um, I have different types of different funeral homes. If someone passes, I do do services for free. But that is only for my loved ones. So that's another, that's another job that I have that a lot of people don't know that if someone passes, I do do hair and makeup full service for the family for free. Um, that's something that I give back. But I'm just here today to just, you know, talk about my journey, my path, and bring some insight on how to break generational curses, how to be a better person, how to do obstacles, how to just get up every day and be free from putting on your mask and just showing up every day in a row and being positive, being thankful and just being faithful.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

All right. All right. Well, with that being said, um, also uh most of our all of our parents are here today. And with, you know, we have a mixed uh audience here, so it's really good to um we'll introduce them later. But let's talk about the generational perspective, right? So, what is one cycle you've seen passed down in your generation? And what do you think needs to be changed moving forward?

Knowledge Gaps And Transparency

SPEAKER_00 5:56

I would say Pastor, let's start with you. It's it's very much in alignment um that you asked that, right? I would say one thing that I've noticed has been passed down um to generations, not just my generation, but my dad's I would say prayer. I would say prayer. Prayer is very powerful. And um, until I've learned the power of prayer, right, I was very loose with it. And so I see that not only did it impact my life, I'm seeing it as impacting my children's life, right? Um, and it resonates deeply because I have a very um God-sense sister, very divine connection with her. And her mother just transitioned, right? And when she called me to tell me what was going on, literally at the hospital, I hung the phone, and I was and I called my mom and said, Mom, um, such and such mom is passing away. And then mom said what she said, and then we hung up. My son immediately said, Mom, why aren't you praying? And then I said, Wow. And so my my son and I, we started praying for our friend. And so I just want to ask, if we can together in this moment, let's let's say it's quick prayer. Um, especially because, like you highlighted, right? Our parents is here. And so when we tap into certain things, traumatic things, experiences, like it's going to be very impactful, and you never know what power is gonna come out of that because you never know what um chain is gonna be broken in this deck. And so, can we can we quickly prayer? Uh pray? All right, so dear Heavenly Father, we thank you so much for this divine opportunity, this divine um moment. We are here and we know that we are here on purpose for your purpose. And so we just thank you for this opportunity to honor you, to move expeditiously, to move powerfully, and move in assignment for your call and your will, Lord. We thank you, and we just ask you to meet us here, give us peace, give us your power and understanding, and give us your energy and and force to move through the next level that you have us ordained to do. In Jesus' name we pray. Hallelujah and amen. Amen.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

Amen. We should have that kind of nerves a little bit. I think that we would start it off with that. Amen. Okay. Well, you was that your answer to that question? Okay, prayer, prayer. Miss Miss Shashonda. So let me ask the question again. What is one cycle you've seen passed down in your generations, and what do you think needs to change moving forward?

SPEAKER_01 8:30

Knowledge. Knowledge. And I say that only because oftentimes when you are a part of family that come with cycles, you don't have the answers. If you don't have the answers, then you don't really know what to do. But a lot of times I feel like with the generation I come from, my family and things that I've watched and seen, um, a lot of us don't read. We don't know, you don't know what you don't know.

SPEAKER_03 8:56

Right.

Healing Without Blame

SPEAKER_01 8:57

You know what I mean? And now I feel like in 2026, it's so different growing up when I was born in 1988. It's so much now you could pick up and find, you can go to Google, you could do IAI, you could do so much stuff. Whereas though, if you say, um I'm depressed, how do I go about who can I call? Where do I go? It's so many different options, it's so many different numbers. Whereas though now you have that in front of you. But back then they didn't have the knowledge. So you would deal with these things and these anxieties, and you have children, and then now you're passing on different things that they're seeing, and it just becomes a cycle. So it was like, I feel like if my family had the knowledge to certain things, um, our cycles and things that we've been through individually could have been a lot different if they had known certain things. So that's where I find comfort in not really judging or feeling like I have to say, this is my mom's fault, this is my grandma's fault, because they simply did not know. No, no, I have comfort knowing that even though they didn't know back then, they can now have the knowledge to know now. And even if they don't, I can have resources to say, oh, is my grandmom having a tough time with certain things? She's a she's uh a senior citizen now. I can say, hey, I heard about this, you can make this call, I've seen this online, and then now she has help with something for as her medication or different things like that. So just having like more knowledge, I feel like that's where generational and cycles and stuff like that, as far as my family will would have really, really helped. And then, like I said, it's like it goes back to my mom, my nana, my great-grandmom, and we all live together. So I already know if granny had the knowledge of certain things of how to deal with things, she would have been, she she would have took off like a rocket because she was very intelligent. But like I said, sometimes you don't know what you don't know.

SPEAKER_02 10:52

What you don't know. And I agree with that. I would think for me, I would answer this question and say that for me, I I think one thing that I've changed now in my with this generation, the ones that I've brought up, is transparency. Transparency. It was a lot of uh secretive, like we didn't even know our grandmother's age, you know. Transparency on uh, you know, like hey, you know, this is what it is, you know, uh, this is uh how things work. And you know how kids say, why? Remember, we couldn't ask questions. You better not ask why. You couldn't ask questions on why. So as a kid, kids should be what? Seen and not heard.

SPEAKER_03 11:37

Yes.

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From Survival To Legacy

SPEAKER_02 11:37

Right. So I think like the transparency, it's nothing wrong with explaining to your child or your your you know, your loved one or whoever that, you know, hey, you know, why did this happen or what's that or what's going on? It's just okay. Like, hey, you know, I didn't go to school, but this is what I did, even though I didn't want to go to school, you know. Um, I think another thing would be financial knowledge. A lot of us just wasn't taught how to uh rightfully uh uh what's the word I'm looking for, y'all? Stewart, stewardship. So a good stewardship of money, you know. Um, so I think that that's one of the things for me as trend uh would be transparency. Okay, so now we um this is about responsibility and healing. Responsibility and healing. How do we take responsibility for healing without blaming the generation before us? I'm gonna start with you this time. Oh, that's good. That's good, that's good, right? That's good, that's good. You know, and I I'ma say this, I'm gonna say this real quick is because, you know, um, being a veteran, PTSD, you know, I did not know before I went to mental health. And that's the other thing I would say, like, for this generation, I'm teaching this generation too. There's nothing wrong with going to see a psychologist. It's nothing wrong with that. Okay, so before I went to uh uh the PTSD clinic, I after I learned, like, oh wow, like wow, my trauma didn't start. It didn't just start in the military. Yeah, my trauma started way, way in my childhood. Now I understand why it is I did certain things. And then once I realized where my trauma came from, what do y'all think I did? My mom and dad should have raised me better. They should have made I was so angry. Like if they would have raised me right, I would have been better. Wow, you know, and now I'm uh I was 50, I was 53 and angry because I lived most of my life in trauma, and until I got that help, now I know where it came from. And that's deep, you know, but I was angry. I was like, they should have known. I mean, I my my auntie could even tell you. I called my auntie like I y'all knew it was going, why, why? And then you know what? And I talked to my dad, I called my dad, I said, you know, and then I realized that, hey, you're 53, you know, born and raised in West Philadelphia, you know, I had to realize that parenting don't come with a handbook. My parents did, they did the best that they could with what they could on raising me. But now at this age, what are you gonna do about it? You know, what are you gonna do? You can't sit there and blame them for what they did or didn't do. It's like, what are you gonna do with what they did raise you? You know, my grandmother basically raised me. And I will say this that through all my trauma, one thing that I always reverted back to was God. That's right. Because my grandmother instilled that in me. So whenever I got in trouble, I knew to revert back to that. So that's you know, uh that was my part uh for being 53 and saying, I even teach my children that now. You know, like, hey, I was a military, you are a military child, I wasn't there. Okay, I wasn't there, mommy wasn't there. I thought that I was giving you all that I can. Well, guess what? You're grown now. What are you gonna do? You know? And it it helped, and that's what I've got young people to realize. I hear a lot of young people say, Oh, my dad wasn't in my life, or my mom didn't do this. Well, I I got it. But take that fuel, take that fire, take that anger and do better. And do better, absolutely and do better.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

So repeat that again because yes, I mean, I mean, I get uh the question, let me get back to it.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

I'm sorry. Um so how do we take responsibility for healing without blaming the generation before us?

Faith As Foundation And Fuel

SPEAKER_01 16:07

So it always reverbed one to God. Yes. And I always look at my life like this. You can't pick your parents, right? But my mom and my dad met for a reason. I was conceived, which means I had a purpose. Instantly, right there, I can take that and say, I would, I'm here for a reason. What's my reason? Despite what I had to go through from being raised by two parents who they probably didn't know half of the stuff they should have known. My mom was very young, 18 when she had me. I couldn't imagine being 18 when I was a kid. Back then it was like hearing that. Oh, she was 18, that was older. But I once I passed 18 and had my first child at 25, I still didn't feel like I was ready. So that's where I can find healing and knowing that at the end of the day, I was giving exactly what I needed from my parents, which was a roof over my head, clothes on my back, and food. I was provided those things. I was never denied of those things. So I'm grateful one for that. Then for me, it's like I'm my own person. Once I started getting of age, my mom would always blame herself for things that I was doing. I was very confused. Like, what are you talking about? I did it because I wanted to do that. But I realized when my mom is not healing from trauma and things she's been through, having me very young. So when I experience these life, these life cycles, she's looking at it in the mirror of a way that I don't know. So it's say if I got in trouble with the law, which I never did, say if I got in trouble with the law, my mom can look at that and be like, oh my God, had I sat her down and talked to her about you know, going to jail and doing these things, maybe she could be a little bit different, or maybe she didn't see me fighting or in certain relationships, or it's she just will blame herself a lot. So I just for me, I heal in the way of just knowing that one, my purpose is bigger than what my mom and my dad gave me. I'm on God's timing. I always say that. I'm not a person who wants to sit and think about what I didn't have because I already know that very young, I always felt like I was different. I always felt like I wanted more. I was never a child who didn't realize that we were struggling. My mom didn't have to tell me. I knew right from wrong. I just would watch and just analyze certain situations. And once I got older, I just knew when I had, if I had children, this is how I want to do things. And sometimes those things don't always happen like that, but it's okay. You can start over, and then that's when I came into my faith journey and realizing that one, like I said, knowledge is power. It's a reason why we have the Bible. Everything in there is telling you what to do, it tells you not to fornicate before marriage for a reason. So that way I won't be left with two baby fathers and sitting here now. I'm a single parent. You could be a single parent even if you were married, but those things hold different standards and different boundaries that be on your back. You get what I'm saying? Opposed to me being a wife and having divorces and just being like a baby mom or baby fathers. So it's like my my hillin' is just is I'm on my own journey. So I'm just grateful that I don't have to really say it's this person's fault or that person's fault. I'm very aware of the person that I am today. But like I said, my mom's flaws, my dad's flaws is the reason why I'm so great. That's just what it is.

SPEAKER_02 19:37

That's right. That's good. That's good. That's good. That was good. And you that's good. I'm gonna let you go ahead, Pastor, because I can say that's so much. That's good. So do you want me to repeat the question?

SPEAKER_00 19:48

Um, no. So I wanted to piggyback on what Shonda said. Um, the Bible says judge yourself so you don't have to be judged. And so I feel that, you know, holding yourself accountable on many levels, I can answer. I am going to answer this question when I was a child, and then I'll answer it as if I'm an adult today. So I remember going through life, right? I can't say I had a lot of trauma, traumatic experiences. I'm I'm not that, I'm I'm not that, right? I don't know we wasn't the riches, no, we didn't have everything we wanted. But like Shonda said, I didn't necessarily um feel like we had less than everyone else. And if we did at times, I always say it to myself, um, I'm gonna be better. I'm going to do better. And as a child, that was me saying, judging myself. Okay, this is where I am, and this is what I want for my future. And so as an adult, now is the Bible says, judge yourself so you don't have to be judged. At the end of the day, you know, as if you're a child and you're listening, if you're an adult, you're always gonna have your turn, right? If you stay stuck in, oh, my mom didn't do this or my dad didn't do that, and then when you become that adult, right, your children's gonna have something to say. And so just lock in, understand what the experiences were, heal from it, you know, um, hold yourself accountable, do what's necessary, assess, like you said, seeking additional supports, whether it's therapy, but once you get those supports, let it burn. Like you said, you the your your motto is burn, break, and become unstoppable. Don't stay there, get out of there.

SPEAKER_03 21:19

Amen. Amen.

Community, Accountability, And The Village

SPEAKER_02 21:21

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SPEAKER_00 22:36

Okay, okay. That's a really good question.

SPEAKER_02 22:38

That's a real good one, right? Can you resate that question? So it's for those who live through in survival mode, what, whether it was through service, struggle, or hardship, well, what does building a legacy look like beyond just getting through life?

SPEAKER_00 22:56

Yeah, that's good. I just have to be 1000% honest and say, first of all, um, first step is realizing that when you were in survival mode, those times, the pains was on purpose, right? It was um set to obviously lead you to the game. And so when you look at it in that way, right, you realize, number one, you should be honored. You should you should be honored because God allowed you to go through the struggle and just honestly find your riches in that in that journey. Find the riches in that journey. And so once you realize that, just um, you know, declare it and declare it and just figure out how to break that chain, right? And to push your children to the next. Because for me, um, I guess for me to say that um I'm leaving legacy, I would have to, the fruits of my labor would have to be shown in my children. And so, yeah.

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SPEAKER_02 23:57

Okay. So uh I would say being retired, a retired veteran, uh, my legacy, right? My legacy was where from because I came from my background of struggle, I said, when I get and I have children, you know, I went and I looked at my children, I said, I want better. I want better for them. I didn't want my children to have to struggle like I did. Um, when I look at how my parents went through the struggle or how my mom she went through a struggle, I said, Well, I don't want to, I don't want to repeat that. I I'm gonna do better. And then I, even though I still made my own mistakes, because sometimes you can say the stove is hot, and we're gonna touch it and find out anyway. So when I went into the military, I made that decision. I was like, I'm gonna make better for them so they don't have to. I sacrificed myself to give my children a better way of living. And I just said, okay, even with the military, I always still didn't get things right, even still in the military. So it's like, okay, now, like I say, life is like a turbulence on an airplane, right? You're flying and it's always some bumps. It's always something that you learn from. And what I realize too, guys, is you really never stop learning. Right, yeah. And and when you say to say I have arrived somewhere, I don't think that that's really um, that really is a uh, what's the word looking for? A good a good thing to say. Because I looked at it's always good, it's always gonna be bad. If you know, so it's like, okay, so how do we do better? Right. So I tell, I I create, I'm building a legacy now to say this this is how it should be. And it makes it, it might be better than what I created for your legacy. Like y'all go and build off of what this foundation I've laid laid out. Y'all go ahead and build off of this foundation that I've laid out and build better. So the legacy still is building brick by brick by brick. So that's that's how I feel about that. So Shonda, Ashonda, for those who have lived through survival mode, right? Whether through strengths, struggle, or hardship, what does building a legacy look like beyond just getting through?

SPEAKER_01 26:32

One, just uh appreciating the survival mode. I'm not mad about that button. I'm not mad about that in my life because I'm a person who still, I ain't gonna lie, I'm still in survival mode because yesterday wasn't enough. So I'm always, I'm always trying to strive to be like, okay, what can I do better to today? So I'm just like, my survival mode for me is is leading up to my legacy for my children. It's like my that button, that button can die down a little bit when I, because I still got some years ahead of me. I'm not young, but I still I tell people all the time, I'm on my third life. I'm on my third life. Like, whether you want to believe it or not, I've been a different person in every phase of this journey. And so I'm I get excited when I think about it because I know that who I was when I was a teenager, I'm not that girl when I became an adult, and now I'm about to be pushing 40. So I'm excited. I'm like, okay, survival mode, let's go. Because I know all my hard work and it survival mode makes it seem like like a bad thing. Sometimes you're not in survival mode because you don't have nothing. Sometimes you're in survival mode because you want more. Right. You want a lot. So your mind is constantly on overflow. You can look at your kids and be like, okay, hmm, I I wasn't taught about how to have financial freedom. So I'm gonna give my kids the guideline on how to do credit or have credit. Like I still don't know about credit. So it's like that's my survival mode, being able to really lock in and be like, all right, this year I'm gonna really tap in and hit my credit score at like an eight something. You know what I mean? So that's the survival mode that I'm really on, but I know it's only for the legacy of my children. So that way when I'm getting old and fragile, my kids don't gotta look at me and say, I'm going to a nursing home. My mom put the work in it, she coming with me because I already got the resources. She already done, she lived her life, she did everything, so we know what to do now. Her survival mode is not gonna go lost or under the rug because this is what she gave us. So my survival mode right now is giving me, it's like, it's like an energy to my it's like a battery in my back. Like it's keeping me going every single day because I know that everything that I'm striving for, even my struggles, I'm still in person. I'm a I'm human. I still get up. I have everyday struggles like everybody else. Life is not perfect. I'm okay with that. Because, like I said, my legacy, when y'all see Logan and William, y'all gonna be like, yeah, Shonda, Shonda did her thing. Like my kids speak volumes for me and who I am as a person. My even with my son being 13. Anybody in this room knows who Logan is and they know how if you meet him, instantly you get a good vibe. He's been here before, and he's very respectful. That's all because of my survival mode. I had to go through life, I had to go through obstacles, I had to fight battles, I had to do, and my, and I'm teaching my son like, you don't have to do that. You can have emotional intelligence, you can have self-control. You don't always gotta be combative, even though I was conventive. But he knows that by watching my mom, if I go this way, then I'm gonna end up that way. So let me be better. And and if you're better, like I said, you don't have nothing under your belt whereas though somebody can look at you and say, as your character, oh, he ain't good. Like, you know, his mom, she was a little off. You know what I mean? Like, no, he don't have none of it, he don't have none of that going on. They can say, you know what, his mom was a good person, she was a hard worker, she did this for the community, she gave back, she did this, that, and the third. Her legacy is gonna live on through her kids. Call Logan Butler, this is the guy we want in the room, because of Shonda. So I'm I'm at 37 years old. I'm if I left tomorrow, I'll be very proud of my legacy today. And sometimes people think like you gotta have all this money or you gotta have like uh houses and cars and this, this, that. My my legacy is way bigger than that. My impact is gonna be felt because even with me doing here, I've done charity work in the sense of where nobody knows. I didn't fed families who was hungry. I didn't did here for free. I didn't, like I said, I do services for people who are dead and their family don't have means to bury them and look good. I'm gonna make you feel good regardless. My kids be in a room. As I'm doing these things, my kids are in the room with me. While I'm doing somebody here and makeup, that's dead. My son is standing there right there with me.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

And I will say this too, you know, it's I was thinking when you were talking about, you know, I was thinking to myself, well, even though I have, I am building legacies for my children, you know, some you could give your child everything that you could possibly give them. Sometimes children or people just still take their own ways. And I I look at it and I say, hey, you know, I look at my grandchildren, you know, and these 2,000 kids are way different than what we grew up, right? And I look at my grandchildren and say, I'm building legacies for y'all. Yes, you know, I'm and I look at my life as a resume. What do I put on my resume this time? This time. I know that you guys may lose your week, but here's something to come back to. You know, that's that's how I feel. Can I say something? Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 31:58

I really love this question because I'm just two years, I'm 43, and my whole thing is um two years, right? I'm moving from striving to thriving. Yeah, right. And I just have to say, it wasn't until I allowed God to snatch me. That I feel like right now I'm walking in my richest season. My bank account don't look how it used to when I was surviving, right? But now I feel like I'm so I'm striving to thrive. And the reason why that shift is happening because I found God. I found God, I heard God. I always was raised in the church and everything. I wasn't, you know, da da da. But I accepted God's calling. And so I would say building that legacy right now of my children, my family seeing this transition of me going from Came to Pastor Came, that is the richest time of my life right now. My children, they are going to, regardless of whatever they do, it's important that we find God so God can speak to us and show us what our purpose is. Because we get caught up on doing all these other businesses and all these other things. But if we're walking out of his will, we're never going to find a way. And so the legacy for me to re-answer that question is literally how what does that look like? It looks like finding yourself in God and finding God's purpose. Build that relationship with God. I would say God is the foundation. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 33:18

As I said before, you know, I was raised in a church, born in Catholic Baptist. My mother married in Islam at one place. But that foundation, I would say, is God because that is always a full circle when you lose your way. When I lost my way, I was like, I I think I'm gonna get back to God because God helped me, because I can't do no more. And that's something to say too. Get out of your own way. You have to get out of your own way. Sometimes, you know, it's like you you pray and you sit back, I'm gonna let God handle it. And then two seconds later, you're trying to figure it, you're trying to figure it out. You know? So, yeah, legacy can be built. God is the foundation, and even though you might lose your way from the legacy that's built, put another brick. That's why I say keep building, keep building on top of legacy. So, yes.

SPEAKER_00 34:16

Listen. Yes. And a lot of people think about God being outside of us, yes, but he's also in us. And we gotta find, we gotta tap in to find the internal riches. God gives us two things the infinite intelligence, the mind, and the boundless love, that's the heart. He's in us. That's it. When you know the power that we hold, it's over. Over.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

And see, this is a part of my my motto breaking cycles, building legacies. Once you realize that you can't do nothing without the most high guy, you can't you can't do anything without him. And I think, you know, I during my struggles, I would feel so alone. Until I now realize that everybody has said their age, well, I'm 55, y'all. 55, weird. 55, right? And I am becoming. And one thing about these generational cycles is that once you learn to break those cycles and build those legacies, legacies can they can keep going on and on and on and more and more and more. So that's what I want to do, and that's what I want for our communities. Come together as communities, hold each other accountable. You know, you you wonder why so many young people are out here, and we're in Philly right now. We're filling in Philly, but I just want to reach out to these young people, and I and you know, and that's why we have a diverse audience too, because we what do the older generation want to see a change in the younger generation? How can we bridge that gap? That's why we're having this conversation today. How can we bridge it? You know, it has to be filled in order for us to be prosperous as a people. And we all know what's going on right now in the world. And I think until we get back to the basics, being accountable for our young people, you know. Now, you know, I was just saying today what you I remember you get in trouble or you saw something that was wrong, you got a whooping for a spanking from that house to that house to that. How about the time you got to the house? You was like, please don't be me again. But now what? You can't even touch nobody's kids.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

You can't even touch your own kids.

SPEAKER_02 36:40

You can't, you can't even touch it. You can't even touch your own. But you know, I I just look at everything today. Let's look at these people in power that's abusing the power and the people. If we take our focus off of what Trump and uh Google and all these billionaire people and go back to the basics, remember money runs this country. But if we come back, right, this is all a part about building that gap. If we come back as a community, remember how we used to borrow sugar? You know, but hey neighbor, you got some sugar. I ain't worried about what Walmart is selling, right? Right. That's why I'm growing vegetables, fruit and vegetables. I want to be able to say, hey neighbor, you you need what you need some apples? Well, you give me some apples. I I got some caramel. You know, I know that's right. You know, it's something to get back to, I think we need to go, you know, uh, if if the old can meet the new and we come together, we wouldn't worry about so much that's going on right now. Let the world like like it says in the Bible, what now? I'm not a good one. So look, we're gonna uh take this time and we're gonna go into our audience. And um, I have two questions that I would like to ask. So we'll be right back after this commercial break. Here at the House of Humanity, we serve those families in need. Donate or get involved today by visiting www.thehouse of humanity.org. So join us because here at the House of Humanity, we are truly making a way.